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Daemon often offers no direct reply. He wants to see what people will do and how he can use it to his advantage. He knew that Rhaenyra wanted Aemond brought to her so she could look him in the eyes, use him as leverage, and decide what to do with him. If Daemon really wanted him dead, he would have done it himself or sent people he knew to be more capable. I don’t think it would have bothered him one way or another if they had brought Aemond to him dead or alive. Further, Aegon was also a son and held the iron throne. I think he would have seen Aegon taken out before Jaehaerys as Aegon was more of a threat.
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It was a fight that got out of hand and Aemond definitely had a hand in it especially since the girls had just lost their mother and future sibling and they expected Vhagar would be ridden by one of them. Aemond came in, puffed up from taking Vhagar, and rubbed their noses in it, which resulted in a slight push by one of the girls which did no damage to Aemond. Aemond’s response and taunts contributed to the fight escalating. Aemond got his rock and was about to bash someone’s head in with it and Luke, being on the smaller side and wanting to protect the others, took out his knife in case it would be needed. He never intentionally took Aemonds eye. The way they were fighting led to that. He did show remorse for having done it after whereas Aemond showed none, further reminding everyone that he was now the rider of Vhagar and that it was worth the eye.
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I never said the houses (Tully, Baratheon, Arryn or Stark) had declared a side. What I said was that the Baratheons were relatives. Mentioning “allies” simply meant that they had been before Viserys died and the Greens usurped the throne. Before Luke left, Rhaenyra told him that he has Baratheon blood from his grandmother, Rhaenys. This is not just the case of an oath being sworn. In any case, oaths are never to be broken, regardless of how long they have stood, or the penalty could be death and/or war. Rhaenyra also told Luke that he would receive a warm welcome at Storm’s End and that Borros, being an extremely proud man, would be honored to host a prince of the realm and his dragon.
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It’s less about what age they are perceived to be and more about the fact that a royal, with a future ahead of him who’s mother was heir to the Iron Throne, was killed, unprovoked, by Aemond. The rightful queen lost a son. The family Luke visited was supposedly an ally/relative of Rhaenyra. Aemond assumed they would send someone there to see which side they were on. Given his hatred of Luke, he was likely glad it was him. When Luke was leaving and Aemond started to go after him, they told him to stay put. He gets on his dragon anyway and kills Luke. There were witnesses to this as letters were sent out by raven to Jace at the wall and to Rhaenyra and who knows who else. The letters named Aemond since, as soon as she read it, she ordered for Aemond to be brought to her. Rhaenyra also knew where Luke went down and she was able to recover some of his items on the beach. I don’t think anyone perceived this as “just a fight” when Luke was clearly unprepared and was trying to get away. As to the fight when they were younger, Aemond came back all puffed up since he got to ride Vhagar. He was right in there with the insults and thought he was invincible. At no point did he try to back down. He attacked the others in the group, including Daemon’s daughters with the Sea Snake’s daughter, and Aemond had picked up a rock and was getting ready to brain someone with it when Luke grabbed his knife to stop him. He wasn’t intending to take his eye, he was trying to stay alive and keep his brother and cousins alive as well. Aemond is not innocent and he instigated the violence. He told his mother he didn’t even care that he lost an eye because they had gained Vhagar. Rhaenyra had no plans to kill Jaehaerys, not even after she knew Luke was dead. She wanted Aemond brought to her. It’s not known whether or not she would have killed him or just used him as a way to re-claim the Iron Throne. Daemon took action into his own hands and hired two incompetent would-be assassins to bring Aemond in, who, rather than leave empty handed and forfeit the money promised, took whomever they could get their hands on. When he said “a son for a son,” I don’t believe he was implying that anyone other than Aemond be brought to him, with the exception of Aegon, who makes far more sense than as he is a bigger threat. The rat catching assassins chose to interpret it that way to get the remainder of their money. When the gold cloak was questioned, he even said that Daemon sent them for Aemond. However, Aemond was out somewhere and Aegon was surrounded by friends so they took the child to serve their monetary interests. The rat catcher even questions the gold cloak when they are about to kill the child and the gold cloak said “a son for a son.” Killing Jaehaerys was not their remit since, if Rhaenyra and Daemon had known they would kill the boy, they knew it would look very bad for them. They had a reason to go after Aemond. Rhaenyra lost a son first. The whole realm must have known that Luke and his dragon were killed by Aemond given the fact that ravens were sent out to Jace at the Wall and to Rhaenyra and who knows who else. I think Rhaenyra would be entitled to some kind of vengeance, but I don’t think Jaehaerys was ever her plan. When she learned of Luke’s death, she said “Bring me Aemond.” She may have killed him, but I think she may have used him as leverage to get Alicent and her usurper family away from the seat of power and take her seat as the heir Viserys named and had never wavered from in 20+ years or however much time passed in their world. Viserys had a lot of time, even the night he died, to name Aegon his heir. The fact that people believe he did with no witnesses about except for Alicent who had a lot to gain if Aegon were king is a bit strange. The houses that pledged their allegiance to Rhaenyra years ago should never have switched sides as, other than Alicents word, they had no proof that Viserys changed his mind in the last second when he had never once wavered from Rhaenyra as his heir. Viserys hated Aegon as he saw his lazy, entitled, violent, sadistic and odd behavior and knew he should never sit on the thrown. The fact that the houses who had sworn to follow Rhaenyra when she was made heir had to play along while locked in the Iron Throne room or face death is yet another sign that Aegon nor his mother or her meddling Hand of a father should have had any right to deny Rhaenyra her legacy and they were only able to get the other houses to agree to Aegon under threat of death. Then, as one of Aegon’s first acts as king, he had all the rat catchers killed and publicly hung for all to see. This should cast even further doubt on whether Aegon was ever chosen to lead as it appears he is temperamental and impulsive and has no thought as to what his actions may cause.
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I think it was more than just a fight between the two. Luke was just trying to get home, said nothing to insult Aemond, took no physical action against him. A member of the royal family killing another with his own hands (or dragon) should have turned several of the other key families and groups against the Greens. Luke was young, he was betrothed, he stood to inherit Driftmark, etc. The fact that Aemond did what he did shows that he has a nasty streak in him and it was well known he hated Luke and he showed absolutely no remorse whatsoever after his death. He saw an opportunity to “get even” and took it. Add what Aegon did to the rat catchers and the Greens starting their usurped rule of the Iron Throne has them appearing extremely violent, full of vengeance, and incapable of ruling without fear and bloodshed. Luke never showed any malice towards Jaehaerys, had no part in killing him (he was, of course, already dead when the young prince met his horrible end) and he didn’t kill Aemond when he had the chance. I don’t believe that Luke would have agreed with Jaehaerys being killed. When they were younger, Luke and Aemond had a fight, started primarily by Aemond, and Luke didn’t intend to take his eye. He did show some remorse for the incident, but apparently Aemond holds a grudge and has definite revenge and anger management issues. Aemond was not ordered to hurt or kill Luke - his actions were his own showing his true nature. Jaehaerys’ death was actually not ordered by Rhaenyra, nor was it directly ordered by Daemon. He asked the assassins to get him Aemond. They couldn’t find him alone, so rather than forfeit the coin they were going to get, they wrongly thought Jaehaerys would suffice. Daemon should have hired more competent assassins. If/when war breaks out, he played a role in it as well. Jaehaerys and Luke were essentially innocents and neither deserved the death they got due to their respective families being incompetent and power hungry. The Greens are acting purely out of vengeance and their desperate desire to cling to the iron thrown even though it was wrongly taken by a usurper who is cold blooded, violent, unpredictable and uncontrollable. Given that Otto is no longer Hand anymore, I wonder what advice Ser Cristin will give Aegon. Will he continue to be Alicent’s boy toy?
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I assume the public knows that Rhaenyra also lost her son, Luke. Perhaps it was covered up to protect Aemond, but this war is at least partly his fault. The rest lies with Alicent and her father. Alicent clearly couldn’t tell that her dying husband doped up on “milk of the poppy” thought he was talking to his daughter. She must realize that, after that dinner where he declared his daughter to be his heir multiple times, that that was his true intention. He was coherent long enough to say if he wanted the crown to go to either Alicent or Aegon instead of to Rhaenyra. It’s getting difficult to find any real likable characters, especially since Viserys died. I think the Sea Snake, his wife and their granddaughters are fairly decent so far, but we’ll see how long that, and their allegiance to Rhaenyra lasts. I know right? Especially since he swore an oath. He got so pissy when Rhaenyra was done with him. He acted like a 14 year old. Now Alicent is just using him for her own needs yet he is still extremely loyal to her and would burn himself to death by dragon if she asked him to. Alicent, along with her father, were quickly becoming some of my least favorite characters. I wonder what the ex-Hand is going to do now that Aegon ousted him. Ser Cristin probably doesn’t even know how to put on the “Hand” pin. I have a feeling all of his “advice” is going to be about killing Rhaenyra, conveniently forgetting she lost a son in this as well and didn’t start the war and was trying to avoid it.
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I think someone spiked his drink at the bar. Contrary to how TV and movies often portray crushing a pill or dropping some liquid into someone’s drink as having an instant effect, this is not the case. Medications given orally have to be metabolized and processed through your body before they get into your bloodstream. Many opioids, for example, start to work in about half a hour but don’t hit their full effect until an hour after ingesting them. They typically wear off, or lose most of their potency, after about 4 hours. It’s the same if the drug is given IM (intramuscular). When people on TV instantly pass out after a jab in the arm or leg, this isn’t realistic either. IM injections still have to break down enough before they enter the bloodstream and still need half hour or so to start to work and longer to reach their full effect. If a drug is given IV, however, then it works pretty much instantly as it is going directly into the bloodstream. However, drugs given this way do not last as long because your body metabolizes them faster. There are many drugs, like propofol, which is only available in IV form, that basically stops working pretty quickly after it is put into an IV. Propofol is typically one of a combination of meds they will give you for general anesthesia or conscious sedation procedures. I think when Voight was looking around the room in the bar and all the people were frozen that this may have been when he felt the first effects of the drug and I think one of the guys there was the serial killer (I remember him seeing a dark haired guy with a beard). If the killer was at the bar and spiked Voight’s drink he may have started to feel it at the bar or on his way home and then it may have reached it’s full effectiveness when he got home.
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S09.E07: Step On A Crack And Break Your Mother's Back
Rapunzel replied to DanaK's topic in Chicago Med
The new Dr. Rule Breaker wasn’t in this episode at all and I didn’t notice Maggie either (probably because helicopter man didn’t have a patient to drop off). ‘Looks Ike next week is a Dr. Rule Breaker episode though. I am not looking forward to it unless she finally gets fired during it. -
In the common law of many countries, there is no general duty to come to the rescue of another. Generally, a person cannot be held liable for doing nothing while another person is in peril. That being said, Good Samaritan laws are in place in all states to encourage people to help others in the case of emergency medical situations where trained rescue personnel have yet to arrive. Good samaritan laws protect people from civil liability for injuries when an attempt has been made to aid someone needing medical attention. So Thony telling the Social Worker she would be in deep s*** for helping Thony is just not true. However, depending on state laws, certain professionals, such as doctors and firefighters, may have a duty to rescue even if off duty. Thony is not recognized as a doc in the US, so technically she has no Dufy of Care either, though there are several real life incidents where a medical professional from another country feels it is their duty to help no matter what, especially given the oath they take.
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I’m getting really sick of Shaun in general. He has this great memory yet conveniently forgets times when he was wrong or needed advice or help. The original Korean version is much better and the autistic doctor is way more likeable. Shaun always looks like he just ate something rotten and constantly looks down on everyone else. They have never helped him to accept his own weaknesses and when someone else might be right. With all that Glassman has done for him, basically raising him and getting him a job, he is quick to always put the blame on Glassman. Glassman was right about Shaun ratting out his medical condition. There are HIPAA issues and he should have gone to Glassman first instead of telling everyone else. So far I am not a Charlie fan. She is capable of staying quiet, despite her autism, and she needs to learn to keep her mouth shut. I can see lots of HIPAA violations from her and perhaps telling a patient the absolute worst case scenario as a given when it is rare and unlikely to happen.
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Thanks - I can’t remember the Cory episode very well. I may have to re-watch. I did notice the they used Dorothy the most this season. I like her personality and she has a lot of empathy for the hoarders as well as their loved ones. Sometimes though you need a Cory to just be firm and direct, especially with the most stubborn hoarders. I don’t think Matt spent the night in any houses this season. It’s always interesting to see it from his viewpoint in there in the dark on his own (well, with a camera person). Most of these homes I wouldn’t be able to spend 5 minutes in alone, never mind overnight.
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The opening aerial shot of the home showed I think 3 shed-type buildings. Not sure if they belong to Coral, but I didn’t see any other houses near them. If they are hers, I’m guessing they are fully hoarded out. They have a habit of never showing all the rooms in the house at the end so I suspect a lot of the hoarders have rooms just full of boxes that they fully intend to get to later (yeah right). 🙄 I’m not as big a fan of the Canadian version. The “experts” don’t seem to have much personality and aren’t as involved as Dorothy, Dr. Z (bee stung looking face and all), Matt and Cory. I don’t think we saw Cory this season though. He can be a bit of an a**, but he isn’t afraid to be very direct with the hoarders and their friends/family.
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Yes, which is why I said they planned to use this season to show his backstory. They filmed this in June and he passed on January 4th. The various strikes also caused them to have to alter their original plans. I am not a fan of the female FBI character (who I always think of as Bonnie in “How to get Away With Murder” and can’t see her as anything else). She is not believable in this role. They killed off Garett last season so that got rid of the romantic triangle angle that seemed to appear a bit in a few episodes with Garett, Thony and Arman. Now without Adan, they will have to find another love interest for Thony because shows like this have to have the lead tangled up in some kind of romantic mess. I’m wondering if it will be the male cartel character we saw who works for Sin Cara. Someone is going to have to help her continue to get meds for her son because of course she won’t go back to the Philippines where the meds are legal and where she can work as a doctor.
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Arman was my favorite character on the show. When I heard Adan passed, I wondered how they were going to carry on with the show as he had such a central role. Looks like they brought in Kate del Castillo to try to fill the gap to some degree, but I don’t see it working. The producers admitted that the show was already having some issues due to the various entertainment industry strikes. They wanted to show more of Arman’s background and how he got where he was even before Adan passed and I think they are trying to stick with some of that this season, which is why he wasn’t killed off on the show immediately this season and we are left to think he is quite possibly alive but hiding from or maybe having been taken by rivals of his aunt’s cartel. No matter what they manage to bandage together this season, I don’t see it getting renewed. They are probably regretting killing off Garret/Oliver Hudson’s character at this point. It would have left them more options had he survived.
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Past Seasons Talk: The Men and Women of Firehouse 51 and Beyond
Rapunzel replied to maraleia's topic in Chicago Fire
I couldn’t stand Gabby and was so glad she left. However, in the show she is on now, Hightown, she is just as annoying. The characters she plays in each show are all about themselves and don’t care what happens to others, even those who go out of their way to help them or are at their beck and call. This is the last season of Hightown, so I wonder if she will get another project and if the character will have the same abhorrent personality. She may be type cast at this point as she really does not seem to have much acting range or ability at all and it is horribly noticeable as on both shows she is with other actors who are far more talented and they act circles around her.