Temperance

Kaylee, Renee, eventually Tessie, and Hannah, would raise the remaining kids. I doubt Nurie and Nathan would be roped in. Kaylee and Renee are adults and Tessie and Hannah are old enough to be sister moms.

We know JB had 50 page questionaire for the his sons-in-law. Maybe something similar for the ladies?

Michelle is 54.

I saw another post from Hillary Spivey where she said Justin and Claire had set a date. He wasn't 18 years old 14 months ago.

One Bates sister and one Bates son's wife.

Is it just me or is Josie's sweater Mustard?

I've been thinking about this all week. You should send this someone to be published as a letter to editor. It's so good.

An evergreen branch.

The Bontragers have a new grandbaby! Tucker Allen Bontrager was born Monday December 7, 2020. Tucker is the second son of Mitchell and Bryn Bontrager. He joins big brother, Micah. This is the Bontragers' 8th grandchild. They have 2 grandchildren from each of their four children, who got married 2017. Each couple had a baby this year. All of their kids have 2 boys, except Carson and Carolina Bontrager who have 2 girls.

Okay quoting myself for the update. Praise Helferich is a young woman with a fundie first name: Praise. It turns out that her middle names are also fundie. Her first middle name is "The" and the second middle name is "Lord". Her full name is Praise The Lord Helferich. You can't make this stuff up.

It means He is the way, but I don't think that's how they pronounce it. I believe it is pronounced "Heist-away". Her parents had #9 this year, a boy named Joseph. All of the other kids have normal names, as far as I know.

Praise is female and Denver is male. I've known at least one other Denver (male), but Praise is too fundie a name, even for my circles.

Denver Bontrager is engaged to Praise Helferich! It was rumored they were together. In August Denver's sister Allison married Praise's brother Jeremiah. This is not the first time two Bontrager siblings have spouses who are siblings. Two of the boys, Carson and Joshua Bontrager are married to sisters Carolina and Cassidy Bowers. I'm surprised these people don't have their own show.

So people were watching Jessa's Thanksgiving video and noticed something. Dwain, Lana, and one of Lauren's sisters were holding the same baby at different times during the video. The baby wasn't Bella and looked too young to be their 2 year old. Dwain and Lana, Lauren's parents, had a baby in February 2018 four months before Lauren and Si married. So this baby looked younger than thaat 2.5 years old. Also Lana had a big scarf that might be a nursing cover. It's speculated Lauren's parents had a baby this year, based on above. The new baby seems to be a boy. He could just be a friend's baby, but he is consistently held by the Swansons. They had 9 kids when Lauren and Si married. If this is their baby, this would Swanson #10. Lana is 44 soon to be 45. I actually thought she might be pregnant, when Lauren gave birth to Bella. It would explain Lana letting Michelle take the lead and not really being in the room when her daughter gave birth.

Most women don't have children after 45. Her mother is 41. I'm not sure if you're joking, but Kendra is due in February with #3 and her mother is expecting #9 in May.

Nurie got married late July. That means the very earliest she could be due is late April. Most people conceive within the first 4-6 months of trying/having sex with no precautions. However for people in Nurie's and Nathan's age group they would need to go a full year before doctors would consider it infertility. Also most people don't announce right away, but wait 3 months to make an announcement. Nurie and Nathan don't have their own Instagram and the family may be waiting until she's farther along. I still think the registry is probably real and Nurie is due June 4th. If the registry is accurate, there might be an announcement soon as June 4th is six months from Friday. Or they could wait to announce on Christmas/Christmas Eve, etc.

Lauren has been wearing pants all along. I saw her pants long before this month. In terms of pants wearing, it was a big deal in the beginning, but now most of the Duggar/Bates married women wear them. As stated it's up to headships, if they can wear pants or not. Also within the Duggars, the skirts only seems to matter way more to Michelle than JB. As for Lauren being "unmarriageable", I refuse to believe any teenager is doomed to forever singlehood. Plenty of fundie girls get married older than barely nineteen. (She was 18 when Si proposed.) Her parents thought it was a good match and she may have been excited at the idea of getting married.

I doubt it's much of an improvement given they're still fundie.

So I heard from friend that a mutual friend's aunt and uncle have COVID. The aunt and uncle are their seventies. So far they're at home. They were talking to their nephew over the phone and he asked them if they have an oximeter. They didn't, but he was able to order an oximeter and have it delivered overnight. It made the doctor's appointment go better. I don't know how they got the disease, but my friends don't live near enough to visit. I know they were nowhere this aunt and uncle. @SunnyBeBe So sorry for you loss. Your cousin was really lucky to have you. Hopefully it's comforting to know she is no longer in pain.

Yes I declared you the winner on the previous page. You and pikascrewchu. I like Evangeline. It's popular, but not as popular as Amelia and Charlotte. Jo is an odd choice imo. Jo is very country for such city slickers. It's Jo Vuolo, which has three o sounds in a row. Joe-Voe-loe!

@Liddy52 came to closest of people who guessed dates. She was the only who guessed a date after the due date. She was off by one day.

Honorable mention goes to @Nysha for mentioning Evangeline in her guess.

@PikaScrewChu is a close second with their guess of Evangeline Diana. (I agree Diana (Jeremy's mother's name) was a good guess for a middle name.)

@awaken came the closest with her guesses of Evangeline and Josephine.

I hope they slow down after this. Since Whitney's not raised fundie, I think there's a chance they might slow down.