Coxfires

It took me quite some time to digest that episode, and its consequences on my enjoyement of the show as a whole. I feel it was the last straw that turned me away, and I still couldn't bring myself to watch episode 8. I was already supra disappointed by Bellamy's storyline, and the poor execution of it. I mean, he never was the brightest, but his overnight 180 turn against the Grouders makes no sense. On a bigger scale, the whole Skikru vs Grounders was already grating. First because it is really "been there, done that", and second, because the people of Arkadia, if they managed to rub two brain cells together, would quickly realize that they are no match to 12 clans and that, in any case, if the Grouders wanted to wipe them out, they could easily do so (first because the Grounders are far more numerous, and second because all it would take them would be to set up a siege around Arkadia and Skikru would die starving). But not only do they have Bellamy be a dimwit, they also make him a mass murderer who cowardly kills people in their sleep and expect their audience to later on whitewash him, when all he deserves is to die, full stop. so yeah, one character that I really appreciated for all his imperfections that I can't stand anymore. and not only do they do that, but they have him reiterate it by attacking a nearby village, and have Monty be part of it. Basically, by the end of 306, I had a hard time rooting for anyone in the Skikru. Jasper is useless, Octavia tends to be a tad too "holier-than-thou" despite her badassery, and although Kane and Raven still being ineteresting, my interest was seriously waning at that point. So I hoped that the Polis stuff would be great, and after all, I still had Murphy and Lexa to root for. No that I don't like Clarke, but I will admit that I didn't like the "special snowflake" treatment that she was given, and particularly the fact that Lexa would bow to her or change her ways for her. Lexa was definitely the most fascinating character to watch for me. She was strong, fierce, capable, she showed times and again that she knew what it was to be a leader and that she stood by her choices and jnew their consequence (minus the betrayal at Mt Weather that for me made no sense on the long term, but I never felt outraged by her actions). So her death, even if it had been telegraphed from a mile, was already a bummer, but the way they did it, a mere stray bullet afetr sex, gosh that was loathable. I didn't know about the Dead Lesbian Trope before, to be honest, and even without it I found myself shouting at my laptop. and now learning all the lengths they went through behind the scenes to lure the Clexa audience.... that is disgusting. So here I am, with a show filled with people I don't really care about anymore, with a writing that has forgotten everything about character development and characterizations consistencies, that wants me to root for effin' Jasper and to forgive a coward who kills people in their sleep, while falling into tropes and playing its audience? eurgh. What I liked about the 100 was that it was able to surprise me by avoiding the usual tropes. It was able to work on its characters and make their action understandable if otherwise morally grey or even totally dark. It was a great show of female empowrement and LGBT representation. It didn't pander to the shippers. And in the span of only 4 episodes, they managed to trash it beyond repair. Wow.

As sad as I am to lose a clever and engaging show, this doesn't come as a surprise, and I guess it wasn't for the showrunners either. I guess they conceived the half-season with the intention of wrapping the story up in mind, which is great because they knew where they were going and how to get there. I'm pretty confident we will have a consistent and solid season thanks to that, so, as disappointed as I am to see PoI go, at least it will be with a bang.

I'd be delighted to have a third season, if only to close some loose ends (thompson and the SOE file, obviously), but the writers have to get into a more engaging SL for Peggy if the season is validated. She has to have major stakes for her, and not these stakes being about her love life. I would like to see her evolve in her job now that she kinda overcame the disrepect she had for being a woman, she has to face other hardships coming from other places. As for the villains, I found Whitney Frost to be extremely compelling and really liked some of the themes her story broached (movie stars getting older, women disregarded as scientists and her parallels with Peggy) but they need to really work on their climax, because her demise fell really flat., Now, I haven't watched any CA movies nor watched AoS (tried the Pilot and really, really didn't like it), and I felt Agent Carter managed well on its own, But it is possible that being a part of the MCU, lots of viewers expect the show to tie with AoS or the other pictures. I'd understand that for S3 to get better viewings/ratings, they might need to tie it more with the rest of the universe. But if I'm completely honest, I could watch Peggy and Jarvis' banter for a whole season just because Atwell and D'Arcy put a huge smile on my face everytime they are on screen together. Considering most of what I watch if often grim and heavy, sometimes all I need from a TV show id that light heartedness those two bring me. Anyway, that might be a little premature since S3 is far form being confirmed

I loved the episode but agree that as a season finale, it was rather anti-climatic. Whitney frost was taken out too quickly and too easily, and we didn't get to see Peggy kick enough ass. Other than that, there were plenty of good stuff: everything Howard, the Peggy/Thompson interactions, Jarvis' affronted look at Peggy ordering a cab, the scientist ego battle... this show really has a knack for fun of its own My biggest complaint with the season is that, in a way, Peggy's stakes were reduced to her love life and who she would choose, which is the part I was the least interested in. Not that I don't like Sousa, but for a show that celebrated women empowereemnt so much last year, confining Peggy's issues to this only aspect was a bit disappointing. Now I could watch Peggy, Jarvis and Howard interactions endlessly, those 3 together just rock (Ana could be thrown in the mix as well). If this really is the end of the show, then that is a bummer. It apparently has poor ratings in the US, despite its charm, wit and overall aesthetics. I wonder what it is that the audience don't click with, but it seems to be the case with all my favorite shows. I am really starting to think I'm a jinx.

I was glad to see Jarvis be more than just the comic relief in these two episodes. Not that I don't appreciate JDA's comedic timing, but I sometimes felt they made him more cartoonish this season than the last, and missed the natural comedy that flowed from Peggy and Jarvis' banter. I know this is definitely Peggy's show, and she was right in pointing out that he begged her to bring him on her missions, but I'd like to see her at one point acknowledging what he did for her, not necessarily in terms of pure help on the missions, but as a true supporter. From day one he recognized and praised her value, showed her admiration, respect and understanding without an ounce of romantic afterthought, even more so than Howard did (and him giving her steve's blood at the end of S1 only reinforced that feeling to me). That is why their argument in the desert was so heartbreaking for me to watch. I'm glad they made up at the end of it I understand that they wanted to show Peggy moving on, but the love triangle is the aspect I care the least about, and it somewhat took away from the dynamic those two have.

Riful, I agree with you that there are two ways of seeing the Mt weather betrayal, and can see where Lexa's deal could be seen as right. Fundamentally, I didn't mind the betrayal, I just think the show didn't set it up that well, just like Bellamy's sudden decision to follow Pike. In both those cases, I have the same issue: I can see where the writers want to drive the story and globally find their angles interesting, but deplore that they overlook character traits or past events (that they probably consider minor) in favor of shock value. In Lexa's case, I found that the deal wasn't taking into account her long-term strategy way of thinking that we had been shown before. For Bellamy, it requires to accept that he would forget about 3 months of peace spent alongside Indra, Lincoln, Nyko, and his sister.

But that wasn't the plan, Lexa knew that Bellamy was gathering help from the inside and also recruiting his own Trojan horse, so that indeed the outsiders wouldn't have to face the Mountain Men on their own from the outside. Besides, the grounders might have axes and bows and such, but the Mountain Men were equipped with technology far more lethal as far as machine guns goes. They had also radars, and electrical power that all that prevented them from expanding was their confinement to Mt Weather facilities. Allowing them to get to the Ground was also allowing them to expand this power, and the Grounders initial advantage would have been in the long run overpowered I still think that, considering Lexa, I would expect her to think more about long-term consequences on her people as a whole rather than the immediate prospect of her warriors getting killed by machine guns. But let's agree to disagree on that point.

Riful , on the grand scheme of things, meaning that Clarke might have taken the same deal were she in Lexa's position, what you describe makes sense. But this is overlooking the fact that what was confining the Mountain Men inside Mt Weather was the fact that they couldn't get out. In the long term, the deal was a bad move from Lexa's part, since she let the Arkers to be harvested from their bone marrow and thus was ready to allow the Mountain Men to get to the Ground. Considering the technology of the latters, and the history between Grounders and Mountain Men, nothing would further prevent them to not simply harvest the Grounders, but go at war against them and do far more damage. Considering what we know of Lexa (that she was ready to let a missile take apart one of her villages to win against Mt Weather in the end), I couldn't picture her being so short-sighted and not think about the long term repercussions of letting the Arkers in the hands of the Mt Men. So what you say about the risks Lexa was taking by going along with Mt Weather's attack only apply if you keep a short sighted vision of the situation, and not when you consider the implications of the bone marrow treatment, where consequences would have been worse. I never minded Lexa's deal from a betrayal point of view (I don't mind the characters being morally gray if I can understand where they come from), and think that Clarke could perfectly be capable of such betrayal to put her people first, but in this case, I found it OOC when we consider Lexa's state of mind and capacities for strategy, and also why I could buy why clarke wouldn't get why she made that deal. But I get where the show was trying to go and what it wanted to picture.

I don't mind the 100 trying to show this mindset, I just feel like the execution is very very poor, rushed, and trashes a character beyond repair. Had they worked more on establishing Bellamy getting times and again betrayed, fool, deceived by Grounders, I'd get it. But after knowing Lincoln (and Nyko and others) for 3 months of peace and discussions with Indra, after seeing first hand that the MW attack was led by a rogue faction of the Ice Nation and beeing there when Lexa got the Ice Nation arrested, this is where this sudden reversal makes no sense. I like my characters when they trade grey morals and areas, not when they become mindless/gullible xenophobes overnight, which, until then, Bellamy never looked like. And to Rothenberg who says that fans can't see their fav making mistakes: we are an audience that accepted that the main characters were capable of torturing someone, killing 300 Grounders, killing family dads (Bellamy / Lovejoy), letting a whole village die under a missile for strategic reasons and committing genocide. when this very audience tells you that you fucked up with one of your characters, then maybe should should consider that as a sign that you really, really, really missed the point.

Just the fact that everyone has to explain Bellamy's actions demonstrates that the SL is a fail, or at least how poor the execution is. There is a difference between having a character make bad choices and making him irreedemable Besides, Arkers vs Grounders, I'm tired of it It is So sad because I personnally can't enjoy the rest of the show (and in this case the great parts of the episode) because of how bad this whole Arkadia mess is. If Bellamy gets withewashed I'll be furious, and if the characters dies (which seriously is the only option I can see), I'll be sad to have lost an otherwise well rounded, imperfect but still endearing character (and great actor) for the sake of such a poor storyline I don't give a crap about Bellarke or Clexa, I loved the show for its intelligence and capacity to surprise me in a good way, but here I am seriously disappointed

That was my exact problem with S2's ending, especially with Clarke's "I will take their burden". I hated that sentence, because that is BS and not what happen in real life. People do experience trauma and do live with it. Clarke exiling herself wouldn't help Harper forget that she was drilled multiple times for her bone marrow, wouldn't erase the fact that Monty was the one who made the irradiation possible or that Bellamy helped Clarke pulling that lever. When S2 ended, I hoped that I was wrong and that the show would allow us to see Monty and Bellamy's feelings about this, but the show decided to drown it in the timejump, and I am a bit disappointed about that. Clarke is a fantastic character, but sometimes I wish the show wouldn't sideline the others when it come to such important matters.

It was a really good episode, and I loved all the political things going on, but I saw so many things coming, like Echo lying about the threat, Gina dying (she had "Red shirt" painted all over her forhead since day one) and Emmerson being the one with the codes, I didn't feel as shocked as the show wanted me to, I guess. Raven: fantastic job by Lindsay Morgan here, and a very realistic treatment of disability here. I am all ready to see Raven be happy again, but when the show delivers these arcs with such quality, I don't mind Clarke/Lexa: I love their scenes together. I don't care about them romantically (if Clexa happens, fine, if it doesn't happen, fine too) but the actresses really have a great interaction that shines on screen. I was glad to see Clarke not willing to trust Lexa but still able to see the big picture and the advantages of the Coalition while putting her own feelings of revenge aside. But I feel that nothing is really clear here: I'm not sure that Clarke isn't planning her own revenge on her side, just like Lexa can't be trusted 100%. She might have bowed to Clarke, but she still has her own agenda that she didn't tell Clarke about Kane: I really like how Kane was developped, notably the fact that Abby realized he was better suited for this and I would like to see more of his interactions with Indra. Bellamy: so much to say about him, what a complex character. He is at the same time a complete tool (if not a hindrance) and endearing. His character never wins anything (he always get his ass kicked in any hand-to-hand combat, except once when he killed Lovejoy) and always makes the poorest decisions ever. Even when he does something heroic (like infiltrating Mount Weather), he isn't even given credit for that. Last week, his desperation to bring Clarke was almost pathetic and now we know he'll go against the Grounders and probably gain Octavia's hate in the process (which grates a bit, I'd have liked it to be the other way around, this time, but oh well...) Maybe it is because he is so flawed and conflicted that I still like him or maybe it is because of Bob Morley's wonderful acting, I don't know. But I'd like to see him "be right", just once. Pike: I can liken his reaction to the one I saw in so many people after November 13th (I'm French): the generalization. a portion of one population does something horrifying and then you decide that they are all the same. That is the most dangerous way of thinking, and we are going straight to the wall with these extreme ways of thinking. Ice Nation: glad to see the most talked about Ice Queen, I want to see more. I think that the show veered away from it very quickly, I'd say that when Charlotte killed Wells, it stopped being about it. Even the Raven/Clarke/Finn stuff didn't go in the traditional love triangle route and never was the focus of the story. I have this theory that they did a "CW-esque" Pilot just to be picked up but knew they'd ditch it as soon as they could (rewatching the very first 2 episodes of this show is torture!)

I love the analogy, reminds of my dad when he stopped smoking after 30+ years and then judged everyone who did. And yes, Octavia was grating this episode. I get where she comes from, not only her past on the Ark, but also her own experience with the grounders, who simingly assimilated her but then turned on her after Lexa's betrayal. So I see why she would act like that, but it still annoys me. I'm also one of those who can't stand Jasper and his "woe-is-me" anymore, everyone in their world has lost friends/lovers, etc. I liked the episode, although it wasn't the most enthralling of the show. I think as a season premiere, it worked well to catch up with everyone and start to show where it might go, but lacked maybe a little bit of edge. I'm not worried since I know everything will go nuts by episode 2.

To me the cliché is less "Bad boy / Good Girl" rather than "the male lead and the female lead end up together". It is very seldom to have a show where two leads of opposite sex share a platonic relationship, and the duo Clarke/Bellamy was great in that regard, particularly when they came to their understanding in S1. which is why it was refreshing for me to see their co-leadership with no notion of romance in the background. I'm probably going to get burned for saying this, but I hope the show won't go overboard with the "strong female" trend they've lauched. Understand me: I love that we have a show that has women being shown as strong, complex, and not defined by their relationship with a man, but rather by their skills/brains/courage, etc. It is important that we have this on telly and too often men are dominating the screens. I am myself an independent woman, so I really, really like it about the 100. Now, I wouldn't like if the show pushed that too much by making all the men of the show second fiddle to women. I feel like JR and the writers are very proud of their female characters and are praised for it (as they should), but on a personal level, I wouldn't want them to take it too far. To me, female empowerement doesn't mean that male should get the short end of the stick. I want to see complex, inetersting, engaging characters of both genders.

I agree with the first paragraph completely. It is nice to see the cliché of the 2 leads ending up romantically together avoided. That said Taylor and Morley have awesome chemistry on screen so I'd like to see them interact either as co-leaders or antagonising each other more often than in S2. The co-leading aspect is a particularly interesting angle to me. Now regarding Carke and Lexa, I am not saying Clarke wouldn't play Lexa for her own strategic reasons. Clarke knows Lexa feels something for her, I can see her use it later if needed for the interest of her people, whoever they may be. Lexa's betrayal is what forced Clarke to go through the genocide of Level 5, I don't see Clarke putting it under the rug completely.

I can totally see Clarke playing Lexa just to stab her in the back, honestly

Exactly, it was to show that he was losing it just like his sardonic Jingle Bells rendition

I understand that Annalise was losing it as the episode went by, but I was pissed when she told Asher that "they" killed Sam. No Annalise, Wes killed Sam to defend Rebecca and the other 3 happened to be there at the wrong place wrong time. Now, I agree that they are guitly of covering it afterwards (under Annalise's instructions) and are protecting their own asses, but everyone is in this mess mainly because of Wes/Rebecca and the weird Annalise/Wes relationship. I already had a hard time liking Wes before, but this is going to be even harder now, and even if I am intigued by the backstory Annalise/Christophe, he is far too annoying for me, and once again, everyone will have to cover up for him because Annalise feels entitled to make it up to him

It has nothing to do with the show but I'm French and just learned that 3 terrorist attacks were lead, there are more than 60 deaths, and a hostage situation going on. I am not in Paris but such scenes really make me doubt of human nature. Sorry to kill the mood but I had to leave a word and a thought for all these people that died while they just wanted to enjoy a nice Friday night.

I really liked having Eve back, Famke and viola's chemistry really shines on-screen, and she might be the only one who gets anything genuine from Annalise. Well, at least, Annalise's attitude as she walked back home, all smiley (before Bonnie killed the mood) tends to make me think she is genuine, because she thought she was alone and didn't have to put up a show for anyone. Now, I don't think Wes is Annalise's son, because of Eve's comment. If Annalise's really was Wes' mother, her covering up for him would "just" be a motherly thing to do. I agree with those thinking that Was is realted with someone Annalise knew and either wronged (and she's trying to make amends) or cared for (and thus looks after Wes). Him being her son would be cheap IMO. Re: Bonnie's anger towards Asher. Maybe she shouldn't consider herself righteous considering what she did, but Asher needed to be told what his actions led to, plus her background explains her outburst. To me, the fact that she herself is a murder doesn't exclude that everything she told him was right. I am in the minority, but I like Laurel, and I liked that she voiced that she was the one keeping everyone in check, plus I appreciated Annalise telling her she noticed. I just regret that her SL is so focused on Franck. I think Oliver got reckless because of his HIV+, it really felt like he was going all "what the hell I want to enjoy my life because you never know what'll happen". Connor is going to implode (although I do miss the overconfident Connor of last year, I think the actor handles his breakdown quite well)

I totally agree. They didn't go to Annalise requesting her to help them cover up Sam's murder. She decided to be the mastermind when she discovered that Wes was involved, but deliberately decided not to clue them in about her involvement at first. None of the K4 other than Wes knew that Annalise was the brains behind Wes' plan, he even tricked them with the coin to follow her orders without telling them she knew about it. They only learned afterwards that she was involved. I thus can understand why Connor feels so trapped. Maybe Annalise is indeed helping them, but from his point of view, she progressively acquired a grip on them behind their back, and now she is blackmailing him. And in his specific case, all he did at first was being at the wrong place at a wrong time. Yes, he could have reported the crime to the police, but he didn't trust Wes or Rebecca wouldn't come up with a story involving him more, plus his car was on the crime scene. This is why I don't blame Connor for not being all that grateful to Annalise: for all he knows, Wes is the one that really benefited from Annalise'svhelp (and the other K4), and seeing how she acts differently with Wes compared to the other 3, I can't fault him for that.

Honestly, I find the show entertaining but not necessarily good and you point out exactly where the problem lies: the Keating 5 lack of characterization as individuals. Which is a pity because the actors themselves seem capable of carrying more than is just requested. Besides, Viola Davies is an immense actress and should remain the core of the show, but it shouldn't rely too much on her only to make it work. I'm mean, I'm more than glad to see a main character be an over 40 bisexual woman of color because that is definitely something new on TV, and Annelise is a fascinating character. But beyond her, the show is completely plot driven, at the detriment of any emotional investment in the characters, which is why I find it entertaining (twists!) but not good. There were a lot of people turned off by the fact that they couldn't root for any of the characters because they were unlikeable. I, for once, don't mind that the character are selfish/arrogant/brats, because it makes for different characters than the usual "good guys", but I'd like to see more of it. Annelise chose these 5 for a reason and I'd like to see them provide more intel this year, because so far they acted more as detectives than lawyers this season. Michaela proved last year she had good knowledge of jurisprudences, Laurel "thinks" like a killer, Wes can have out-of-the-box ideas. We didn't see that this year, as you pointed out, only the relationship aspects, and that is a pity.

I agree, dirtypop90, and that is why I regret her storyline with Franck. She definitely has shown sociopathic tendencies, and hides a incredibly cold and calculting mind behind a shy and quiet exterior. I find her the most enigmatic of the K5, and wish we would see her character be explored beyond the Franck aspect. In general, I would like to see more contribution from the K5 to the cases in terms of actual intellect/law rather than legwork

I suppose it is because the liver functions are all about metabolism, enzymes production, molecules processing, it isn't based on a sole mechanical activity, and the printer can't reproduce that specific type of requested action

She first sent Eggs the text "Hi" after her failed flirt with the gay man in the season opener, and he answered when Laurel took her dancing while Wes watched her purse in the nightclub