S11.E16: More than a Feelin'

[Midnight Cheese]

17 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Because they're gatekeepers. That's been a very big issue in Tinsley's life and on this show. When she was with Topper and the queen of New York. Her family didn't have enough money. Their money wasn't old enough. Her family money wasn't the right kind of money. They called her dad a jumped up carpet salesman who dabbled in real estate. And Dale...(gasp)...went to public school. The folks who tend to do the most gatekeeping are heifers like the NY housewives who married into wealth.

I don't think people really questioned if the family really had money when George, Tinsley's dad, married his second wife who was a doctor and only 10 years younger than Dale. There definitely was a period where George was a little out of control after separating from the 2nd wife. During that period, he was with some 20 year old that he openly called an escort. George was drinking and partying like a fucking fool. Dale stepped in and took control of the family finances and put George on an allowance. And so I think because everyone knew all of this, they question how much money her family truly has.

However, gatekeeping has always been a huge part of this franchise from the beginning. Luann, Jill, and Ramona have talked endlessly about "our kind," "our social circle," "our set," and "the right kind of people." And it never gets better. Sonja joins and can't stop talking about these issues. Dorinda joins and we never hear the end of it in regards to beloved erudite Richard and gross blue collar John, even though John went to private schools as a kid and John has engineering and business degrees from Villanova and is the only one of these folks, other than Tinsley, who has ever been invited to the Met Ball. And because they've so bought into this narrative of what wealth looks like, what kinds of businesses are "acceptable," and what someone's hustle might be, they make assumptions based on nothing. Maybe Tinsley is using Rent the Runway, still has some connections with designers and stylists, or maybe she has more money than these dumb bitches speculate.

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Edited June 28, 2019 by Midnight Cheese

[Raiderred]

On 6/20/2019 at 11:35 PM, Lemons said:

Fuck people who trivialize the death of a dog.  My dog is 19 and has grown up with our family, I can emphasize with tinsley .  Sonya’s comment about how she wasn’t even that upset and she had a funeral.  That “funeral” was all about Sonya putting on a show and had nothing to do with her dog.  The look on her face while she just dumped his ashes said it all. 

I'm right there with ya!  I was bawling through that scene and FO Ramona and Sonja! I lost my precious 14.5 year old girl on May 1st and it is still heart wrenching and excruciatingly painful.  I have lost so many fur babies and the pain is the same.  Most of us are with these little ones a lot more than with any human.  I also can't imagine my life without my dogs. The great moments are GREAT but the sick and dying moments are so very painful.  Unfortunately, it is the price we pay for loving them. Big hugs to all those with animals and all those going through the rough loss. 

[lightninggirl]

On 6/20/2019 at 9:52 PM, njbchlover said:

I think someone needs a new lift, or needs to start wearing a bra.

Completely agreed, but when she was doing aerobics those puppies were NOT moving at all!! I'm not even sure how that is possible as they looked like pancakes.

[RealHousewife]

On 6/21/2019 at 8:18 AM, divsc said:

I think it was extra cruel to tell Tinsley she looks old for her age - that's her vulnerable, trigger spot. Saying that to anyone is mean, but especially to Tinsley when she's feeling very single, trying to hang on to her youth to stay on the dating market, meet someone to see if she can still have her child as time is quickly slipping away. She's putting in a lot of work and money to keep up her body, her skin, etc. The last thing she wants to hear is that she looks old for her age, aka, undesirable. And Ramona wouldn't like being told that either. And then she's all, "What, what did I say???'

It was indeed cruel. I could see possibly telling someone certain kind of makeup could be aging, but Ramona gleefully saying Tinsley looks old for her age and that she looked young for her age rubbed me the wrong way. As awful as some of the Housewives in the franchise can be, most of them do not attack one another's looks the way Ramona does. This isn't the first time either. She made a cruel comment about Kelly's breasts before. Tinsley DOES NOT look old for her age. She has the look of someone who has money and takes great care of herself. What would Ramona say about a 40-something single mom who has no money for botox and whatnot? And if model Kelly's figure was nice enough for Playboy, what would Ramona say about other women's bodies? 

I think it's great Ramona has all this confidence. We should all try to love ourselves and think we look great. But when you attack other people's looks so cruelly, on camera at that, it's gross. I think Ramona is a pretty woman with a great figure, but no one is everyone's cup of tea. Would she appreciate it if someone said something unkind about her appearance?

 

[ZettaK]

10 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

It was indeed cruel. I could see possibly telling someone certain kind of makeup could be aging, but Ramona gleefully saying Tinsley looks old for her age and that she looked young for her age rubbed me the wrong way. As awful as some of the Housewives in the franchise can be, most of them do not attack one another's looks the way Ramona does. This isn't the first time either. She made a cruel comment about Kelly's breasts before. Tinsley DOES NOT look old for her age. She has the look of someone who has money and takes great care of herself. What would Ramona say about a 40-something single mom who has no money for botox and whatnot? And if model Kelly's figure was nice enough for Playboy, what would Ramona say about other women's bodies? 

I think it's great Ramona has all this confidence. We should all try to love ourselves and think we look great. But when you attack other people's looks so cruelly, on camera at that, it's gross. I think Ramona is a pretty woman with a great figure, but no one is everyone's cup of tea. Would she appreciate it if someone said something unkind about her appearance?

 

Ramona can be really nasty. 

 

[RealHousewife]

17 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

Ramona can be really nasty. 

She really can. She has a sweet side to her and can be likable, but I couldn't be friends with someone so cutting. I don't think even anyone on the RHOBH has attacked anyone's looks the way Ramona has, and they can be really mean.