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A.V. Club walkthrough of Season one with Alex Hirsch.

Wanderdown
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Just a little while longer... https://twitter.com/_AlexHirsch/status/609398074234945538   July 13th!  Soos' birthday, even!

Galileo908

Galileo908

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IT'S BACK! It's been so long. "Welcome to your dreams" indeed.

 

"Your camera's a cinder block, Toby." He just keeps getting more hilariously pathetic. Has anyone else been watching the online shorts? He has unexplained cat whiskers!

 

Loved hearing Nick Offerman as one of the government agents. I thought he would fight zombies, but no, Stan proved to be the total badass of the night.

 

A few odd things: Stan offers free parking, and subscribes to "Fully Clothed Women" magazine. And it's really not surprising that the Mystery Shack was built on a mass grave. But...why?

 

"What was the ONE thing I didn't want you to do tonight?!"
"Raise the dead."

"And what did you do?"

"Raise the dead."

 

I absolutely loved how Soos remained mostly the same as a zombie.

 

So, which song is better: "T8king Over Midnight" or "Don't Stop Unbelievin'"? &NDRA was an awesome name, too. Matt Chapman had to have been the one to come up with that.

 

Tonight's Code: SMOFQZA JDFV. There's a new cypher, so I don't know how to translate it right now. (EDIT: It translates to "WELCOME BACK." Obvious.)

 

So there's even more secrets in the journal in invisible ink. That's really cool...and I wonder if the other two journals have those hidden messages, too.

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torontomeridith

torontomeridith

I'm a huge fan of "Gravity Falls" myself and, as with the author, probably more so than my kids. As for genuinely scary episodes, I have to go with "The Inconveniencing" which put various annoying teenagers in their own personal Hells and also introduced the awesome "Homework's Wack" rap to the world. I'm also a sucker the for Li'l Gideon arc which I anticipate will continue in the new season.

Galileo908

Galileo908

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Thank Bill for the spoiler tags.

 

This was a great one.

I really like Wendy, and she really got to shine in this one. Totally not surprised that she lives in a log cabin mostly likely built by Manly Dan himself.

A great sign of Dipper's immaturity: Being freaked out by laying on Wendy's bra.

Holy crap was that monster terrifying. Being voiced by Mark Hamill will do that. Was one of the things he shapeshifted into was Groot from GOTG? We didn't meet The Author but now we know that he was some kind of scientist, and the gang now has his laptop. I'm really looking forward to where this goes.

Loved all the terrible movie titles: The Planet People of Planet Planet, Ghost Turtle, Attack of The Exclamation Points!! My favorite had to be Help! My Mummie's A Werewolf 2: This Again.

This Week's Code: OOIY DMEV VN IBWRKAMW BRUWLL. = WHAT KIND OF DISASTER INDEED. Passcode "SHIFTER."

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Galileo908

Galileo908

I've been watching since day 1 and it was great to see the entire series again in one shot. So many great episodes (Time Traveler's Pig, The Inconveniencing and Dreamscaperers being my favorites), so much to take in.
 

lol I never thought of using Smile Dip like that.. I always just think "Would you like to eat my candy paws!"

I sometimes wonder how this stuff gets through as kids tv, some of it definitely isn't directed towards them :P

 

The cut to a walleyed Mabel chewing on nothing is what makes that whole scene work.

Galileo908

Galileo908

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There's lots of secret messages hidden in this show, this topic should be about documenting them all. Every episode has a short message at the end of the episode, usually relating to that episode's plot and are translated by different ciphers.

 

The cipher codes that have been used are as follows:
 

1) Caesar, decoded by substituting each letter by the third letter behind it in the alphabet. A = X, Z = W, and so on.

 

2) Atbash, the exact opposite of the Caesar code where you substitute letters by the third letter ahead of it. A = D, Z = C, etc.

 

3) Numerical Substitution, substitute each letter with its corresponding number. A =1, Z = 26.

 

Now with season 2, there's a 4th cipher being used: The Keyed Vigenere, described by this site as follows:

 

Compared to a regular Vigenere cipher, you create an alphabet key first then use a passcode to encipher a message. This cipher allows the same letter to appear encoded as something else as it’s dependent on where a letter is positioned in the plaintext as well.

 

 

In the first episode of season 2, this passcode is "Widdle," found in the brief glimpse of Gideon's jail cell. The code was SMOFZQA JDFV which can be translated as "WELCOME BACK." I don't get how this one even works, but these writers are damn clever at this and translators far better than I have cracked these codes for me. (EDIT: The passcode is hidden somewhere in the episode. Should've made that clearer.)

 

There's also a quick title card that flashes just as the Disney logo shows up that shows yet another coded message. The ones revealed so far can be found here. (Spoilers ahead) They're translated by first using the numerical cipher, then atbash, then Caesar. Again, clever.

 

Are there any other secret messages around? What do they mean? And has anyone else been noting Bill Cipher's likeness appearing everywhere?

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Kalliste

Kalliste

I loved Zombie Soos! And Agent Powers lol what a stupid name.

 

A few odd things: Stan offers free parking, and subscribes to "Fully Clothed Women" magazine. And it's really not surprising that the Mystery Shack was built on a mass grave. But...why?

 

I never thought of it that way, I just figured the zombies were there because Dipper raised them, not because there happened to be hundreds of people buried under there.

 

I would say &ndra is a play on Ke$ha and how fortunate for Mabel that their karaoke would save the day.

 

I thought the invisible ink was a good way to keep it fresh and interesting, can't wait to see what else is revealed about it.

Galileo908

Galileo908

In addition to the code at the end of the credits, there's now a freeze-frame picture of another coded message! The ones found so far are here (Spoilers ahead). This episode's code translates to "the man downstairs is very clever can he hide his plans forever?"

 

It's translated by substituting the numbers with their corresponding letters, then using Atbash, then using Caesar. Clever.

Galileo908

Galileo908

I'm loving this season so far, and if these two episodes are any indication this will be all sorts of awesome.

 

BTW, In addition to the code at the end of the credits, there's now a freeze-frame picture of another coded message! The ones found so far are here (Spoilers ahead).

 

This episode's code translates to

"improper use of machinery could lead to utter catastrophe."

 

It's translated by substituting the numbers with their corresponding letters, then using Atbash, then using Caesar. Clever.

Lrdmordain

Lrdmordain

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Ok given what the shapeshifter said about the journal author "not being himself" for a long time, I'm calling it now.

 

The journal author is the goat. He was transformed into the goat by some sort of supernatural force. It's why he led Dipper to the journal in the first place, and why he has weird eyes, and why he was eating the journal in one scene. He was trying to indicate to Dipper it was him.

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Kostgard

Kostgard

The smart kids on the internet have found another (non-spoilery) coded message - on the lower right corner of the wooden frame of Dipper's wall of weird the cipher translates to "Why is Wendy so perfect?" Heh. Yet another mystery for Dipper to solve.

I love this show, especially because it rewards viewers who pay attention. And I love that they mixed things up this season. There are some outside people looking into the weirdness now, and Stan came clean and can no longer just pretend to be the bumbling clueless uncle (also proved that he can be quite the badass - and not just when punching pterodactyls). Sure, he and Dipper are still lying to each other, but things gotta be different now.

I also loved the shorts Disney played with Grunkle Stan's terrible commercial for the Shack and Gideon's show in prison.

FAU

FAU

I didn't realize the premiere was Friday, because Disney XD keeps saying it will be on Monday.  So my husband and I came across it by accident and only got to see the last half.  Wish Disney would pick a network and stick with it.

 

Yeah, it was a 2 episode premiere, I found about it when I heard about Korra being moved to online only.

FAU

FAU

So when does this episode air, and on what channel?  I'm getting really confused if its supposed to be on Disney Channel or Disney XD, and what time.  I haven't even seen all of the first one yet.

 

Fridays?  I'm not sure, but that's when the last 2 episodes were available.  I think it's on Disney XD but I'm also not entirely sure.

Kostgard

Kostgard

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Wendy is a total badass. I like that she's kinda unflappable, even with monsters and Dipper confessing about his crush on her.

I thought the monster was kinda scary too - especially the Dipper/Mabel hybrid. And the final warning the monster gave to Dipper was really unsettling, but it did give Soos the line of the night ("Good luck sleeping tonight!").

But I guess this show has always had kinda scary monsters (I thought the island/monster in the short about the giant teeth was genuinely terrifying), and I like that it gives kids a little credit in that regard.

ETA: Is anyone keeping track of what is whispered during the opening credits? It sounded really different this time.

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Monty9

Monty9

Holy crap did I love this episode. 1st agreeing with kostgard. Wendy was amazing both kicking ass wise and in letting Dipper down nicely. Plus the thing that is so great about this show is that they resolve things! They talked things through in a sensible fashion and they were cool after. 2nd related to moving on... The set up for this season in trying to find the author of the journals is great. I am admitedly a serious fan girl for this show, but a lot of more serious adult-targeted shows could learn something about making story arcs.

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