Gravity Falls - General Discussion

[tennisgurl]

*Shrieks with glee* I'm so excited! Now I can watch the last few episodes, and know that there are more on the way :)

[Kalliste]

Just watched Carpet Diem! It was the first Gravity Falls episode I ever saw, I see now why I decided to check out the rest of the show! Potentially my very favourite, well maybe second to the Time Travellers Pig

[radishcake]

 

The Pines family begin resolving to get back to normal after the Li'l Gideon incident. They throw a “Mystery Shack Is Back” party, but some unwelcome guests intend to crash it.

 

[radishcake]

 

Dipper’s secret journal pages lead him and the gang to the author’s hidden bunker where they find themselves face-to-face with a mysterious figure from Gravity Falls’ lore.

 

[radishcake]

We just watched the two part finale again yesterday. So many unanswered questions!! :D

[Kalliste]

Yup, I hope there is more of that in season 2, I'd love to see more of Stan's background.

[radishcake]

Me too! Like who is he working for? I can't wait! 

[AimingforYoko]

A.V. Club walkthrough of Season one with Alex Hirsch.

[radishcake]

That is AWESOME @AimingforYoko!! Thanks for the link! 

[Kalliste]

This is so cool! I really have to go to the toilet but I want to finish it first, what a dilemma!

 

I can't believe people got tattoos of Bill without knowing anything about him!

 

This makes me even more excited for season 2! 

[radishcake]

I can't believe people got tattoos of Bill without knowing anything about him!

Right?! I thought that was so funny. I have tattoos but I never understood the cartoon character ones. I do love Bill though!

[Primetimer]

The adult-friendly Disney series teaches kids to 'trust no one' from an early age.

Read the story

[AimingforYoko]

Hope Agent Powers returns. Anybody who sounds like Nick Offerman and looks like G. Gordon Liddy is alright with me.

[Galileo908]

IT'S BACK! It's been so long. "Welcome to your dreams" indeed.

 

"Your camera's a cinder block, Toby." He just keeps getting more hilariously pathetic. Has anyone else been watching the online shorts? He has unexplained cat whiskers!

 

Loved hearing Nick Offerman as one of the government agents. I thought he would fight zombies, but no, Stan proved to be the total badass of the night.

 

A few odd things: Stan offers free parking, and subscribes to "Fully Clothed Women" magazine. And it's really not surprising that the Mystery Shack was built on a mass grave. But...why?

 

"What was the ONE thing I didn't want you to do tonight?!"
"Raise the dead."

"And what did you do?"

"Raise the dead."

 

I absolutely loved how Soos remained mostly the same as a zombie.

 

So, which song is better: "T8king Over Midnight" or "Don't Stop Unbelievin'"? &NDRA was an awesome name, too. Matt Chapman had to have been the one to come up with that.

 

Tonight's Code: SMOFQZA JDFV. There's a new cypher, so I don't know how to translate it right now. (EDIT: It translates to "WELCOME BACK." Obvious.)

 

So there's even more secrets in the journal in invisible ink. That's really cool...and I wonder if the other two journals have those hidden messages, too.

Edited August 2, 2014 by Galileo908

[AimingforYoko]

&NDRA was an awesome name, too. Matt Chapman had to have been the one to come up with that.

That has to be a takeoff on Ke$ha, right?

[torontomeridith]

I'm a huge fan of "Gravity Falls" myself and, as with the author, probably more so than my kids. As for genuinely scary episodes, I have to go with "The Inconveniencing" which put various annoying teenagers in their own personal Hells and also introduced the awesome "Homework's Wack" rap to the world. I'm also a sucker the for Li'l Gideon arc which I anticipate will continue in the new season.

[Galileo908]

Thank Bill for the spoiler tags.

 

This was a great one.

I really like Wendy, and she really got to shine in this one. Totally not surprised that she lives in a log cabin mostly likely built by Manly Dan himself.

A great sign of Dipper's immaturity: Being freaked out by laying on Wendy's bra.

Holy crap was that monster terrifying. Being voiced by Mark Hamill will do that. Was one of the things he shapeshifted into was Groot from GOTG? We didn't meet The Author but now we know that he was some kind of scientist, and the gang now has his laptop. I'm really looking forward to where this goes.

Loved all the terrible movie titles: The Planet People of Planet Planet, Ghost Turtle, Attack of The Exclamation Points!! My favorite had to be Help! My Mummie's A Werewolf 2: This Again.

This Week's Code: OOIY DMEV VN IBWRKAMW BRUWLL. = WHAT KIND OF DISASTER INDEED. Passcode "SHIFTER."

Edited August 2, 2014 by Galileo908

[Galileo908]

I've been watching since day 1 and it was great to see the entire series again in one shot. So many great episodes (Time Traveler's Pig, The Inconveniencing and Dreamscaperers being my favorites), so much to take in.
 

lol I never thought of using Smile Dip like that.. I always just think "Would you like to eat my candy paws!"

I sometimes wonder how this stuff gets through as kids tv, some of it definitely isn't directed towards them :P

 

The cut to a walleyed Mabel chewing on nothing is what makes that whole scene work.

[Galileo908]

There's lots of secret messages hidden in this show, this topic should be about documenting them all. Every episode has a short message at the end of the episode, usually relating to that episode's plot and are translated by different ciphers.

 

The cipher codes that have been used are as follows:
 

1) Caesar, decoded by substituting each letter by the third letter behind it in the alphabet. A = X, Z = W, and so on.

 

2) Atbash, the exact opposite of the Caesar code where you substitute letters by the third letter ahead of it. A = D, Z = C, etc.

 

3) Numerical Substitution, substitute each letter with its corresponding number. A =1, Z = 26.

 

Now with season 2, there's a 4th cipher being used: The Keyed Vigenere, described by this site as follows:

 

Compared to a regular Vigenere cipher, you create an alphabet key first then use a passcode to encipher a message. This cipher allows the same letter to appear encoded as something else as it’s dependent on where a letter is positioned in the plaintext as well.

 

 

In the first episode of season 2, this passcode is "Widdle," found in the brief glimpse of Gideon's jail cell. The code was SMOFZQA JDFV which can be translated as "WELCOME BACK." I don't get how this one even works, but these writers are damn clever at this and translators far better than I have cracked these codes for me. (EDIT: The passcode is hidden somewhere in the episode. Should've made that clearer.)

 

There's also a quick title card that flashes just as the Disney logo shows up that shows yet another coded message. The ones revealed so far can be found here. (Spoilers ahead) They're translated by first using the numerical cipher, then atbash, then Caesar. Again, clever.

 

Are there any other secret messages around? What do they mean? And has anyone else been noting Bill Cipher's likeness appearing everywhere?

Edited August 2, 2014 by Galileo908

[Kalliste]

I loved Zombie Soos! And Agent Powers lol what a stupid name.

 

A few odd things: Stan offers free parking, and subscribes to "Fully Clothed Women" magazine. And it's really not surprising that the Mystery Shack was built on a mass grave. But...why?

 

I never thought of it that way, I just figured the zombies were there because Dipper raised them, not because there happened to be hundreds of people buried under there.

 

I would say &ndra is a play on Ke$ha and how fortunate for Mabel that their karaoke would save the day.

 

I thought the invisible ink was a good way to keep it fresh and interesting, can't wait to see what else is revealed about it.

[Galileo908]

In addition to the code at the end of the credits, there's now a freeze-frame picture of another coded message! The ones found so far are here (Spoilers ahead). This episode's code translates to "the man downstairs is very clever can he hide his plans forever?"

 

It's translated by substituting the numbers with their corresponding letters, then using Atbash, then using Caesar. Clever.

[Kalliste]

Why is this episode available now? I wasn't expecting it for a few days and bam! Got to watch both at once.

 

Anyone else finding this season somewhat more creepy than the last one? If these episodes are anything to go by anyway.

[Kalliste]

Thanks for mentioning what the episode codes are. I love that they do it each episode but have been too lazy myself to investigate them.

 

I was wondering why Bill has been removed from the end and other things are now in his place.

[Galileo908]

I'm loving this season so far, and if these two episodes are any indication this will be all sorts of awesome.

 

BTW, In addition to the code at the end of the credits, there's now a freeze-frame picture of another coded message! The ones found so far are here (Spoilers ahead).

 

This episode's code translates to

"improper use of machinery could lead to utter catastrophe."

 

It's translated by substituting the numbers with their corresponding letters, then using Atbash, then using Caesar. Clever.

[Kalliste]

I guess they decided that last seasons codes were too easy to decipher :P

[Galileo908]

Gravity Falls is officially an Emmy-winning show! Dreamscaperers won one for "Individual Achievement in Animation."

[Lrdmordain]

Ok given what the shapeshifter said about the journal author "not being himself" for a long time, I'm calling it now.

 

The journal author is the goat. He was transformed into the goat by some sort of supernatural force. It's why he led Dipper to the journal in the first place, and why he has weird eyes, and why he was eating the journal in one scene. He was trying to indicate to Dipper it was him.

Edited August 2, 2014 by Lrdmordain

[Kostgard]

The smart kids on the internet have found another (non-spoilery) coded message - on the lower right corner of the wooden frame of Dipper's wall of weird the cipher translates to "Why is Wendy so perfect?" Heh. Yet another mystery for Dipper to solve.

I love this show, especially because it rewards viewers who pay attention. And I love that they mixed things up this season. There are some outside people looking into the weirdness now, and Stan came clean and can no longer just pretend to be the bumbling clueless uncle (also proved that he can be quite the badass - and not just when punching pterodactyls). Sure, he and Dipper are still lying to each other, but things gotta be different now.

I also loved the shorts Disney played with Grunkle Stan's terrible commercial for the Shack and Gideon's show in prison.

[jennlynn]

If they ever spin off Duck Detective from Gravity Falls, my family would watch the heck out of it!

[Galileo908]

That's a really good theory. Also, goats have square pupils, they always look weird.

[AimingforYoko]

I also loved the shorts Disney played with Grunkle Stan's terrible commercial for the Shack and Gideon's show in prison.

Don't forget "Soos says some words": "If you accidently eat the prize inside the cereal, does that make you the specially marked box?" My man Soos gets philosophical.

[Kalliste]

Hmm, good theory! I always wondered what the deal was with the goat. Is it in every episode? I keep forgetting to look out for it.

[88Keys]

I didn't realize the premiere was Friday, because Disney XD keeps saying it will be on Monday.  So my husband and I came across it by accident and only got to see the last half.  Wish Disney would pick a network and stick with it.

[88Keys]

So when does this episode air, and on what channel?  I'm getting really confused if its supposed to be on Disney Channel or Disney XD, and what time.  I haven't even seen all of the first one yet.

[FAU]

I didn't realize the premiere was Friday, because Disney XD keeps saying it will be on Monday.  So my husband and I came across it by accident and only got to see the last half.  Wish Disney would pick a network and stick with it.

 

Yeah, it was a 2 episode premiere, I found about it when I heard about Korra being moved to online only.

[FAU]

So when does this episode air, and on what channel?  I'm getting really confused if its supposed to be on Disney Channel or Disney XD, and what time.  I haven't even seen all of the first one yet.

 

Fridays?  I'm not sure, but that's when the last 2 episodes were available.  I think it's on Disney XD but I'm also not entirely sure.

[AimingforYoko]

The regular schedule will be Mondays at 9:30/8:30 Central on Disney XD. I'm fairly sure they will play reruns on Disney proper on Fridays.

[AimingforYoko]

Technically, it's a Disney XD show, but the premiere was shown on Disney proper as part of its "Disney XD on Disney" night.

[KerleyQ]

I think it's both a DC and XD show.  The premiere was on Friday's "Night of Premieres" along with new episodes of a few other DC shows.  (Disney XD on Disney night is Saturday night).   They do something similar with Phineas & Ferb, where new episodes will "premiere" on both networks at different times. 

[88Keys]

OK, it looks like "Scary-Oke" and "Into the Bunker" will air back-to-back starting at 8pm Central Time on Monday the 4th.  The P&F Star Wars thing will air that night too, starting at 6:30.  I think I know where I will be that night.  :)

[Kalliste]

Yeah, it was a 2 episode premiere, I found about it when I heard about Korra being moved to online only.

I didn't even realise that.. wikipedia says episode 2 is 4th of August.. does anyone know whether another episode is coming out tomorrow or is wikipedia just wonky?

[Kalliste]

Now that season 2 has started I'm super excited to find out what the deal is with Stan! I mean 

how badass was he in the first 2 episodes?!

[FAU]

I didn't even realise that.. wikipedia says episode 2 is 4th of August.. does anyone know whether another episode is coming out tomorrow or is wikipedia just wonky?

 

Idk about wiki but I know it premiered somewhere last Friday, both episodes are available.

[FAU]

The regular schedule will be Mondays at 9:30/8:30 Central on Disney XD. I'm fairly sure they will play reruns on Disney proper on Fridays.

 

Thanks for the confirmation.

[Kalliste]

Yeah, I've seen both, I was just hoping for a third tomorrow :D I don't want to wait :)

[AimingforYoko]

I've been there, Dip. First crushes are a bitch.

[88Keys]

This episode was....kinda freaky.  Really didn't feel like a show for little kids.  It seems like season 2 is going to have a different feel than season 1.

[Kostgard]

Wendy is a total badass. I like that she's kinda unflappable, even with monsters and Dipper confessing about his crush on her.

I thought the monster was kinda scary too - especially the Dipper/Mabel hybrid. And the final warning the monster gave to Dipper was really unsettling, but it did give Soos the line of the night ("Good luck sleeping tonight!").

But I guess this show has always had kinda scary monsters (I thought the island/monster in the short about the giant teeth was genuinely terrifying), and I like that it gives kids a little credit in that regard.

ETA: Is anyone keeping track of what is whispered during the opening credits? It sounded really different this time.

Edited August 5, 2014 by Kostgard

[AimingforYoko]

As someone pointed out on AV Club, the shapeshifter seemed like he escaped from The Thing.

[Monty9]

Holy crap did I love this episode. 1st agreeing with kostgard. Wendy was amazing both kicking ass wise and in letting Dipper down nicely. Plus the thing that is so great about this show is that they resolve things! They talked things through in a sensible fashion and they were cool after. 2nd related to moving on... The set up for this season in trying to find the author of the journals is great. I am admitedly a serious fan girl for this show, but a lot of more serious adult-targeted shows could learn something about making story arcs.