S06.E15: Good Men

[doLLish]

When Cruz's undercover work reveals a lead in a case tracking multiple robberies, the situation escalates quickly, causing friction between Voight's Intelligence Unit and the Chicago Fire Department.

[UNOSEZ]

Really good episode.. Enjoyed everyone working together.. Crossover didn't take up too much time.. So it was mainlyba PD story.. As I gave up on fire a while ago... Glad that Wendell Pierce' character wasn't too mad about the way the case went... Although I'm no fan of Ruzek/Upton... I'm also not a fan of Halstead/Upton... Mainly because again it would have been his second intra squad romance ( same problem with the Ruzek pairing)  and also it seems so telegraphed to the point that every other relationship just seems like a stepping stone... And I am truly not here for a Love Triangle.. And them moon eyes and declarations of blind trust give me an ominous feeling... If the show wanted to pair Upton off.. It should been with Kevin.. As that would been the most surprising.. And had potential for different storylines... Or no pairing at all

Edited February 21, 2019 by UNOSEZ

[spunky]

This was a good episode. I like that the Alderman put his own political ambitions aside in order to help these two children. Jay was great with the kid who felt guilty for the firefighters death. That gang member deserved the beat down that Kevin gave him. Speaking of Kevin, this is the second time he's seen loosing his temper. Is angry Kevin going to become a thing? Writers no Upton and Jay, it's bad enough she's with Ruzek. They could have paired her with Kevin if they really wanted an inter office romance. Both actors a good friends, and post a lot with each other, therefore they could have pulled it off. Again all around a good episode.

[UNOSEZ]

29 minutes ago, spunky said:

They could have paired her with Kevin if they really wanted an inter office romance. Both actors a good friends, and post a lot with each other, therefore they could have pulled it off. 

Exactly... And it would have actually been a surprise... Compared to the obvious Halstead /Upton pairing that they seemed destined to do... Only to give us Ruzek/Upton because they "needed" to enforce a tired trope with the usually level-headed Upton to fall in with the "Bad Boy" Ruzek only to realize she wants the "Good " Halstead so now when you add in burgess we've got a boring, predictable and extremely White love square with our two minority men just dealing with a drug addiction a divorce /broken home and constant grief with his community and gang violence that had him send his siblings away because his parents aren't around... Not a great look

[Guildford]

7 minutes ago, UNOSEZ said:

Exactly... And it would have actually been a surprise... Compared to the obvious Halstead /Upton pairing that they seemed destined to do... Only to give us Ruzek/Upton because they "needed" to enforce a tired trope with the usually level-headed Upton to fall in with the "Bad Boy" Ruzek only to realize she wants the "Good " Halstead so now when you add in burgess we've got a boring, predictable and extremely White love square with our two minority men just dealing with a drug addiction a divorce /broken home and constant grief with his community and gang violence that had him send his siblings away because his parents aren't around... Not a great look

They also couldn't do the Atwater route because of the outcry if she treated Atwater like something she stepped in that she seems to do with Ruzek. Atwater is too nice and likeable and it's easier to treat Ruzek like trash (although he's hardly likeable lately) and there was no way they could have her lusting after Halstead while dating Atwater. Ruzek and by that extension Burzek are just collateral damage in Rick Eid's love affair with Upton and just an annoying little divergence to get to Upstead. 

No way Atwater would ever be written into this trashy story. So that is at least something Atwater fans can be grateful for.

[ChicksDigScars]

Another intense episode. Chicago PD has been the stronger show since this One Chicago migration with all three shows on one night (which I like). Is PD getting the best ratings and now considered the anchor show? I know Fire was first, but it seems that PD has surpassed it. 

The only thing that has bothered me was the brief foray into Antonio's drug use. It seems that he's all better now? No more Adderal? 

[Chas411]

8 minutes ago, ChicksDigScars said:

Is PD getting the best ratings and now considered the anchor show? I

Not sure about that looking at ratings it usually gets the lowest of the night though not by much.

[ChicksDigScars]

I just found last night's ratings. Looks like all three shows basically have the same viewership, with Chicago PD (1.4/6 share, 9.09 million) being slightly ahead of the other two (both Fire and Med at a 1.3/6 share and Med pulling in slightly more in the millions of viewers than Fire).  Survivor was a premiere, so I'm actually surprised that Med did well against it. 

Man, Modern Family doesn't have the viewership it used to, for sure. 

"Elsewhere, NBC’s “Chicago Med” posted its second straight 1.3, while a crossover between “Chicago Fire” (1.3) and “Chicago P.D.” (1.4) boosted both shows up two and three-tenths from their outings a week ago. The crossover also lifted “P.D.” to new season highs in both the adults 18-49 demo and in total viewers with 9.09 million."

[Chas411]

PD usually does well at crossover weeks but when it’s on own it would rarely be the highest rated of the three. In past years maybe but not this season.

[doLLish]

Chicago Med usually wins the night and is currently the most popular of the 3.

This was probably my favorite episode of the season. It felt like old Chicago PD. A good case, good guest actors, no Upton, no stupid romance sub-plots.

[langford peel]

So if the alderman gets elected mayor he will put Voight in as police commissioner?

That is just as believable as most of the scenarios on this show.

[Beatrice]

Time slot has a lot to do with it. I'm sleeping by 10. I watch on iTunes.

Obviously in the minority here, but I watch mainly for Hailey and some for Kevin. The other characters I can take or leave. I'll like any interaction either of those two have with each other or other characters.

I don't find Hailey to be off putting. She's a straight shooter. If you want to know the truth she will tell you. I like that. I'm amused at the difference in the way she treats Adam and Jay. But then, those two characters are very different.

Edited February 21, 2019 by Beatrice

[UNOSEZ]

1 hour ago, Beatrice said:

Time slot has a lot to do with it. I'm sleeping by 10. I watch on iTunes.

Obviously in the minority here, but I watch mainly for Hailey and some for Kevin. The other characters I can take or leave. I'll like any interaction either of those two have with each other or other characters.

I don't find Hailey to be off putting. She's a straight shooter. If you want to know the truth she will tell you. I like that. I'm amused at the difference in the way she treats Adam and Jay. But then, those two characters are very different.

Big fan of both as well.. Unfortunately I don't really remember them having much interaction really... The earlier chunk of the season they didn't seem to speak or share solo scenes at all... I remember remaining when I finally noticed them in a scene in a park.. They didn't speak but they were the only two characters in frame.. And I remember only because it was the first time I had noticed it all season... But I like how honest they are with everyone else... And how generally level-headed they are compared to the addict Dawson... The Bad Boy Ruzek... The Corrupt Voight... The War-Torn Halstead and the Here and Sometimes There Burgess

[spunky]

8 hours ago, UNOSEZ said:

Exactly... And it would have actually been a surprise... Compared to the obvious Halstead /Upton pairing that they seemed destined to do... Only to give us Ruzek/Upton because they "needed" to enforce a tired trope with the usually level-headed Upton to fall in with the "Bad Boy" Ruzek only to realize she wants the "Good " Halstead so now when you add in burgess we've got a boring, predictable and extremely White love square with our two minority men just dealing with a drug addiction a divorce /broken home and constant grief with his community and gang violence that had him send his siblings away because his parents aren't around... Not a great look

Exactly! These writers seem too afraid to step outside the box. They have written these characters into a corner and don't know how to get out of it.

[spunky]

1 hour ago, UNOSEZ said:

Big fan of both as well.. Unfortunately I don't really remember them having much interaction really... The earlier chunk of the season they didn't seem to speak or share solo scenes at all... I remember remaining when I finally noticed them in a scene in a park.. They didn't speak but they were the only two characters in frame.. And I remember only because it was the first time I had noticed it all season... But I like how honest they are with everyone else... And how generally level-headed they are compared to the addict Dawson... The Bad Boy Ruzek... The Corrupt Voight... The War-Torn Halstead and the Here and Sometimes There Burgess

This is something that has always confused me. The actors actually have a good friendship, in fact Tracy has a lot of pictures on Instagram of her and LaRoyce hanging out and joking around on set. So why is it so hard for the writers to even create a friendship for Hailey and Kevin. Written correctly she might be a better friend to him than the two dopes who are currently his best friends.

[TigerLynx]

I liked this episode.  The stupidity was kept to a minimum.  I miss Erin.  She had more than one facial expression.

[Guildford]

2 hours ago, spunky said:

This is something that has always confused me. The actors actually have a good friendship, in fact Tracy has a lot of pictures on Instagram of her and LaRoyce hanging out and joking around on set. So why is it so hard for the writers to even create a friendship for Hailey and Kevin. Written correctly she might be a better friend to him than the two dopes who are currently his best friends.

I guess it's because Eid doesn't actually write friendships at all, or decent relationships either. Could you imagine how bad it would be? Ruzek and Atwater was a good 'bromance' until Eid got his hands on it. Halstead has never really seemed to have 'friends' he was almost painted into an Erin sized box and now she's gone he's just left hanging. He's just kinda there.

[spunky]

On 2/21/2019 at 8:01 PM, Guildford said:

I guess it's because Eid doesn't actually write friendships at all, or decent relationships either. Could you imagine how bad it would be? Ruzek and Atwater was a good 'bromance' until Eid got his hands on it. Halstead has never really seemed to have 'friends' he was almost painted into an Erin sized box and now she's gone he's just left hanging. He's just kinda there.

Valid point. If Eid attempted to write a solid friendship for those two it would be a train wreck. Coming to think of it, I do miss the RuzWater bromance. 

[Gothish520]

Great episode.

I dont watch Fire, so for those that do: is Cruz always such a git? Man was he annoying. Also, does Severide's facial expression ever change?

[UNOSEZ]

5 hours ago, Gothish520 said:

Great episode.

I dont watch Fire, so for those that do: is Cruz always such a git? Man was he annoying. Also, does Severide's facial expression ever change?

To answer you... Yes and No

[CoyoteBlue]

On 2/21/2019 at 7:01 PM, Guildford said:

I guess it's because Eid doesn't actually write friendships at all, or decent relationships either. Could you imagine how bad it would be? 

I liked that Upton was just friends with Halstead and tried to kinda keep an eye on him early on. Of course they couldn't let that stand.

[WinJet0819]

On 2/28/2019 at 2:46 AM, CoyoteBlue said:

I liked that Upton was just friends with Halstead and tried to kinda keep an eye on him early on. Of course they couldn't let that stand.

Upton and Halstead's platonic relationship is the most realistic thing about this show. I'm glad they're not a couple, and I don't think they ever need to be.