Casseiopeia November 20, 2018 Share November 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Pondlass1 said: According to Clarissa (whoever she is?) Dabb wasn't on the red carpet nor did he attend the party. A bit odd unless he was sick or something? He doesn't own a tux? Link to comment
gonzosgirrl November 20, 2018 Author Share November 20, 2018 49 minutes ago, Casseiopeia said: He doesn't own a tux? He was there but all the press mistook him for a hobo and didn't take his photo? Seriously though, I would dearly like to know the answer to this. 2 Link to comment
Casseiopeia November 20, 2018 Share November 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, gonzosgirrl said: He was there but all the press mistook him for a hobo and didn't take his photo? Seriously though, I would dearly like to know the answer to this. The other person who wasn't there was Berens (the other half of WS) is guess he was there. Could it be because Mark Pedowitz and Peter Roth were there? Or he is furiously rewriting the 300th episode because evidently the first draft had to be heavily revamped. Edited November 20, 2018 by Casseiopeia 1 Link to comment
ILoveReading November 20, 2018 Share November 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Casseiopeia said: Well the other person who wasn't there was Berens (the other half of WS). Could it be because Mark Pedowitz and Peter Roth were there? Or he is furiously rewriting the 300th episode because evidently the first draft had to be heavily revamped. I believe Berens was there. Even if Dabb couldn't make it, he could have sent a tweet thanking the cast and crew. 1 Link to comment
Casseiopeia November 20, 2018 Share November 20, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ILoveReading said: I believe Berens was there. Even if Dabb couldn't make it, he could have sent a tweet thanking the cast and crew. Was he? Oh right he had pics with Ruth. What Dabb congratulate his cast and crew? How would that be about him? Edited November 20, 2018 by Casseiopeia 3 Link to comment
Jonesy November 20, 2018 Share November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said: He was there but all the press mistook him for a hobo and didn't take his photo? Seriously though, I would dearly like to know the answer to this. Jess from Tree Topper was there and said Dabb wasn't thee for some personal reason and not because didn't want to be there. She wouldn't specify. 1 Link to comment
FlickChick November 20, 2018 Share November 20, 2018 54 minutes ago, Jakes said: Jess from Tree Topper was there and said Dabb wasn't thee for some personal reason and not because didn't want to be there. She wouldn't specify. What else could anyone say? "Oh, Dabb's not here because of the terrible way he was treated by the president of The CW"? Or "Dabb's not here because someone may ask him about the abrupt 'Michael' storyline"? You get the idea... 4 Link to comment
devlin November 20, 2018 Share November 20, 2018 Dabb’s absence is terrible which ever way you look at it. They were celebrating a show that has kept him employed for at least the last 10 years, which he is now the runner of. 7 Link to comment
Casseiopeia November 20, 2018 Share November 20, 2018 (edited) Jared not playing the saxophone Edited November 21, 2018 by Casseiopeia 4 Link to comment
ahrtee November 21, 2018 Share November 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Jakes said: Jess from Tree Topper was there and said Dabb wasn't thee for some personal reason and not because didn't want to be there. She wouldn't specify. Unless there was a death or emergency in the family and he had to leave town immediately, he should have at least made an appearance, or at the very least sent a congratulatory (and apologetic) message--if not at the time, then in the following days. Dead silence doesn't sound (or look) good for someone who supposedly likes (and wants to keep) his job. 9 Link to comment
Jonesy November 21, 2018 Share November 21, 2018 2 hours ago, ahrtee said: Unless there was a death or emergency in the family and he had to leave town immediately, he should have at least made an appearance, or at the very least sent a congratulatory (and apologetic) message--if not at the time, then in the following days. Dead silence doesn't sound (or look) good for someone who supposedly likes (and wants to keep) his job. Doesn't bother me one bit, doubt anyone on the show will begrudge him this at all. Link to comment
DeeDee79 November 21, 2018 Share November 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jakes said: Doesn't bother me one bit, doubt anyone on the show will begrudge him this at all. I don’t think that any of us can say if they’ll be cool with it or annoyed by it. Personally I think it’s a little tacky to not even make a statement one way or another. 3 Link to comment
tessathereaper November 21, 2018 Share November 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, DeeDee79 said: I don’t think that any of us can say if they’ll be cool with it or annoyed by it. Personally I think it’s a little tacky to not even make a statement one way or another. Yes, not making it to the party, there may be very understandable extenuating circumstances. But unless he's dead himself, there really is no excuse for not even making a statement of some sort acknowledging the achievement. 4 Link to comment
ahrtee November 21, 2018 Share November 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jakes said: Doesn't bother me one bit, doubt anyone on the show will begrudge him this at all. I don't care personally, but in terms of office politics... If the Big Shots of a company are coming from out of town to celebrate something done by one part of the company (let's say Pedowitz and Roth were the CEOs and SPN is one of the departments in the company they oversee) and have created an enormous publicity event to honor it, the Department Head (ie, Dabb) had better have one damned good excuse to not be there. Imagine a huge PR event to honor your local police department for something spectacular, and the Chief of Police decided not to show up for "personal reasons" and didn't even send a congratulatory message. 4 Link to comment
gonzosgirrl November 21, 2018 Author Share November 21, 2018 Meh. The optics of Dabb not showing up or acknowledging it publicly in any way just add to my perception of him as a petty, petulant, small man. He is free to prove me wrong. 6 Link to comment
Pondlass1 November 21, 2018 Share November 21, 2018 Odd that nothing was announced regarding Dabb's absence. Maybe they did....? But nothing mentioned in tweets or articles. I mean, it's a big deal. Why wasn't he there or his absence even explained? I'm reading all kinds of stuff into it.... which I can hope for but cannot post here. 4 Link to comment
SueB November 21, 2018 Share November 21, 2018 16 hours ago, devlin said: Dabb’s absence is terrible which ever way you look at it. They were celebrating a show that has kept him employed for at least the last 10 years, which he is now the runner of. Or his mother could be dying, or his child needs treatment for something or or or.... shit happens in real life. Just because we don't know doesn't mean he's a snubbing the show. Personal reasons could be overwhelming right now. Have you ever had to 'peace out' for a few weeks and deal with family issues? I have. It could be as simple as that. 3 Link to comment
ahrtee November 21, 2018 Share November 21, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, SueB said: Or his mother could be dying, or his child needs treatment for something or or or.... shit happens in real life. Just because we don't know doesn't mean he's a snubbing the show. Personal reasons could be overwhelming right now. Have you ever had to 'peace out' for a few weeks and deal with family issues? I have. It could be as simple as that. When my niece was in the hospital last year and I had to fly cross country on one hour's notice, even after she died the next day, I still had to notify my office and cancel various appointments for the time I'd be away. I realize it's hard to get a celebratory tone when you're overwhelmed, but a simple text of "Sorry I can't be there to honor this achievement" shouldn't be that hard. ETA: Especially since he apparently did notify someone he wouldn't be there for "personal reasons." All he had to do was add a "give my regards/congratulations." Edited November 21, 2018 by ahrtee 5 Link to comment
Pondlass1 November 21, 2018 Share November 21, 2018 It's not so much that we didn't hear from Dabb. Yes, he could be overwhelmed with a personal event. I can appreciate his not attending for all manner of reasons which I would respect. My point is that his absence was not explained or mentioned (apparently) by anyone anywhere. A simple "Andrew sends his regrets and best wishes and congratulations..." something like that. Or Andrew Dabb was not in attendance due to personal reasons. That type of thing. Anyhoo it looked like a fantastic night for all. 3 Link to comment
ahrtee November 21, 2018 Share November 21, 2018 (edited) OTOH, I think Dabb may be Asperger's, and social niceties don't always compute. That could also explain a lot of his behavior/interactions. JMO. Edited November 21, 2018 by ahrtee clarification. 2 Link to comment
Pondlass1 November 21, 2018 Share November 21, 2018 A function like the 300th celebration could be overwhelming for him maybe? But his absence still should've been explained somehow. He is the damn showrunner after all. Photo after photo on twitter and not one - Showrunner Andrew Dab was unable to attend. All the photos, articles, red carpet etc., and him not included and no one says why. It's odd. 3 Link to comment
Casseiopeia November 21, 2018 Share November 21, 2018 43 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said: A function like the 300th celebration could be overwhelming for him maybe? But his absence still should've been explained somehow. He is the damn showrunner after all. Photo after photo on twitter and not one - Showrunner Andrew Dab was unable to attend. All the photos, articles, red carpet etc., and him not included and no one says why. It's odd. No one even mentioned his name as far as I can tell. Maybe he was fired? 2 Link to comment
gonzosgirrl November 21, 2018 Author Share November 21, 2018 27 minutes ago, Casseiopeia said: No one even mentioned his name as far as I can tell. Maybe he was fired? Well it is almost Christmas. And I have been a very good girl. 8 Link to comment
ILoveReading November 21, 2018 Share November 21, 2018 Even if Dabb couldn't be there, he still could have tweeted, like Kripke did. Kripke didn't show up to the 100th, and it turned out he was leaving. Should be be so lucky? 7 Link to comment
catrox14 November 22, 2018 Share November 22, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Pondlass1 said: It's not so much that we didn't hear from Dabb. Yes, he could be overwhelmed with a personal event. I can appreciate his not attending for all manner of reasons which I would respect. My point is that his absence was not explained or mentioned (apparently) by anyone anywhere. A simple "Andrew sends his regrets and best wishes and congratulations..." something like that. Or Andrew Dabb was not in attendance due to personal reasons. That type of thing. Anyhoo it looked like a fantastic night for all. Even Kripke, who no longer is involved in the show at all that I know of, managed to send his regrets that he couldn't attend. Dabb could have had an assistant or anyone send his regrets on SM on his behalf. Honestly, it's a 5 minute effort at most. It's very peculiar that neither he nor someone on his behalf addressed his absence. Edited November 22, 2018 by catrox14 4 Link to comment
SueB November 22, 2018 Share November 22, 2018 41 minutes ago, catrox14 said: Even Kripke, who no longer is involved in the show at all that I know of, managed to send his regrets that he couldn't attend. Dabb could have had an assistant or anyone send his regrets on SM on his behalf. Honestly, it's a 5 minute effort at most. It's very peculiar that neither he nor someone on his behalf addressed his absence. Apparently someone did because that's how we know 'did not attend for personal reasons'. If there's no scandal, why make a deal out of it the press. Yes, he could have sent a tweet -- so there may be some drama we don't know about - but I'm not ready to hang him for the lack of tweet without knowing rationale. 3 Link to comment
7kstar November 22, 2018 Share November 22, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 4:03 PM, Jakes said: Jess from Tree Topper was there and said Dabb wasn't thee for some personal reason and not because didn't want to be there. She wouldn't specify. We have no idea why he wasn't there and he could have said or sent something personal that we don't know about. I had a major health issue and no one really knew including my boss. what was really going on because I didn't understand what was going on. I worked half days and just enough full days that I didn't have to ask for permission. They knew it was serious and just said make sure I have a sub. I had the days but really I should have gone on leave. I didn't. Most of my coworkers didn't even notice I was missing so much... So I won't say Dabb is being terrible in anything because I don't know the man and I don't know what he has or hasn't communicated with anyone. I wouldn't get my hopes up that he is being fired because that sounds like rumors to me, JMV. 5 Link to comment
BoxManLocke November 22, 2018 Share November 22, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, ILoveReading said: Even if Dabb couldn't be there, he still could have tweeted, like Kripke did. Kripke didn't show up to the 100th, and it turned out he was leaving. Should be be so lucky? Lucky ? We all know who's taking over if Dabb leaves lol We're screwed unless the Singer dynasty retires. Edited November 22, 2018 by BoxManLocke 4 Link to comment
catrox14 November 22, 2018 Share November 22, 2018 7 hours ago, SueB said: Apparently someone did because that's how we know 'did not attend for personal reasons'. If there's no scandal, why make a deal out of it the press. Yes, he could have sent a tweet -- so there may be some drama we don't know about - but I'm not ready to hang him for the lack of tweet without knowing rationale. I'm not hanging him out to dry. I've made no commentary to that effect. All I said is that I think it's weird he didn't tweet something to the masses considering that he or his assistants tweet to same said masses every week about the show. His absence and his absence on SM about his absence is weird. That's all I'm saying. Nothing more. Nothing less. 2 Link to comment
gonzosgirrl November 22, 2018 Author Share November 22, 2018 (edited) I don't really give a flying f why he wasn't there. The optics of ignoring such a publicized event are bad. I expect nothing better from him as far as Supernatural goes though. Bet if it was the 100th time one of his waywards appeared on the screen he'd be all over it, even from his deathbed. Edited November 22, 2018 by gonzosgirrl 9 Link to comment
ILoveReading November 22, 2018 Share November 22, 2018 7 hours ago, BoxManLocke said: Lucky ? We all know who's taking over if Dabb leaves lol We're screwed unless the Singer dynasty retires. I can't believe i'm saying this, but I think I'd prefer them to Dabb. 6 Link to comment
Aeryn13 November 22, 2018 Share November 22, 2018 I fear Berens might take over and he would be by far the worst choice for me. Even worse than Dabb. Worse than the duo. 3 Link to comment
catrox14 November 22, 2018 Share November 22, 2018 I hope for Yockey because at least he seems to be a mostly competent writer which doesn't necessarily mean he be a good showrunner but I think he does try to have balanced writing for the most part. And Yockey and Meredith Glynn were there. If it's a matter of Dabb not being good with social situations like a party, he could have easily tweeted that to this fandom and they would 100% understand. 4 Link to comment
ILoveReading November 22, 2018 Share November 22, 2018 54 minutes ago, catrox14 said: I hope for Yockey because at least he seems to be a mostly competent writer which doesn't necessarily mean he be a good showrunner but I think he does try to have balanced writing for the most part. And Yockey and Meredith Glynn were there. If it's a matter of Dabb not being good with social situations like a party, he could have easily tweeted that to this fandom and they would 100% understand. Dabb's assistant was there. She could have tweeted on his behalf if he's in a situation where it wasn't possible. That fact that he couldn't send out a simple congrats tweet, for me is telling 3 Link to comment
ahrtee November 22, 2018 Share November 22, 2018 I'm not going to try to interpret this, because it's possible that he's sick/in the hospital himself and unable to comment, but it looks like Dabb hasn't tweeted anything since Nov. 15 with those horrible romance cover things, which were blasted by almost everyone (and his "likes," which had been running about 700-800, went to *94*.) So maybe he got in trouble. Maybe he's sick. Maybe he's hiding, or sulking. But even if WB/the CW didn't want to mention him for whatever reason (did they?), he (or his assistant, on his behalf) still should have acknowledged the cast/crew for their achievement. Something is off. JMO. 5 Link to comment
Aeryn13 November 22, 2018 Share November 22, 2018 (edited) Something I noticed is that apparently he is co-writing episode 300 now with Meredith Glynn. As far as I understood it earlier was that he was writing that episode by himself. Now it`s co-writing. I mean, I will kinda take that as positive news -for episode 300, at least. I dreaded it. Still kinda do. Couldn`t tell from the vid if Jensen was actually excited for it or if it was just promotional talk. Edited November 22, 2018 by Aeryn13 3 Link to comment
ahrtee November 22, 2018 Share November 22, 2018 Giving the kindest interpretation, he's having health issues and unable to do as much. And from my POV, that would be a good excuse for him to bow out of the showrunner role while still keeping his reputation/credibility. *fingers crossed* 5 Link to comment
Casseiopeia November 22, 2018 Share November 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said: Something I noticed is that apparently he is co-writing episode 300 now with Meredith Glynn. As far as I understood it earlier was that he was writing that episode by himself. Now it`s co-writing. I mean, I will kinda take that as positive news -for episode 300, at least. I dreaded it. Still kinda do. Couldn`t tell from the vid if Jensen was actually excited for it or if it was just promotional talk. That is interesting because that is what happened when Carver left. Dabb/Berens co wrote Red Meat in order for Berens to write the horrible E22 and Dabb the almost as bad finale. I generally like Meridiths writing so fingers crossed for 300. 1 Link to comment
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