Mindthinkr August 6 Share August 6 It doesn’t air here until 11…oh wait. I won’t get it due to Olympic coverage 🙁 Link to comment
SanDiegoInExile August 8 Share August 8 Yup, the show is preempted in many markets due to the Olympics, so it would be a good time for Kelly to take vacation. Folks tend to forget that the show is syndicated to ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX stations across the country. It's a WABC production, with the majority of affiliates being ABC, but not all. Sacramento may be the largest TV market where the show airs on non-ABC. NBC affiliate KCRA has had "Live" since the Regis and Kathie Lee days. 2 Link to comment
Shrek August 8 Share August 8 11 hours ago, SanDiegoInExile said: Sacramento may be the largest TV market where the show airs on non-ABC. NBC affiliate KCRA has had "Live" since the Regis and Kathie Lee days. I lived in the Fresno market area for 18 years & it's on ABC there & moved to the Sacramento market just up the road & this really messed me up at first. I had stopped watching it but the fact that it wasn't there just confused me. 1 Link to comment
finnzup August 13 Share August 13 So sick of the "salad/sex talk" with Kelllmeeee. This story, that she and Gelman love to resurrect, is just tmi and frankly nobody's business but theirs. Based on what Kelllmeee looks like, she and MARK CONSUELOS!!!! must be having sex 24/7. I was glad MARK CONSUELOS!!! chose to move on to another riveting news clipping, lol. I saw her pics from the Disney Legends gala and honestly, she is emaciated! It looks like she used a filter, lots of comments saying she had some work done on her face, and also remarking on her thinness. The dress she chose did her no favors and it really was an odd pick for the celebration; that is, of course, unless the invitation said to wear a matronly, polka dot baggy dress. She's an odd one for sure, imo, oc. 1 1 Link to comment
lookeyloo August 13 Share August 13 I think her mother has some mental health issues, so maybe that contributes 2 Link to comment
Medicine Crow August 14 Share August 14 Kelly's back for ick-chat only!! The guests are re-runs ... today was Ahnald & that gorgeous Hannah Waddingham, who I can't get enough of anyway. 2 1 Link to comment
finnzup August 15 Share August 15 The shouting, the desk banging with that paw of hers, the leg shaking....let's hope the new season finds Kellllmeeee better equipped to handle the show. And don't get me started on the story she tried to tell....blue eyes, brown eyes..and MARK CONSUELOS!!!! angry that his baby girl was born with blue eyes?!?! What on earth is that about?? Maybe he's not as nice as I think he is, lol. 1 1 Link to comment
NYCRunner August 18 Share August 18 On 8/15/2024 at 5:26 PM, finnzup said: The shouting, the desk banging with that paw of hers, the leg shaking....let's hope the new season finds Kellllmeeee better equipped to handle the show. And don't get me started on the story she tried to tell....blue eyes, brown eyes..and MARK CONSUELOS!!!! angry that his baby girl was born with blue eyes?!?! What on earth is that about?? Maybe he's not as nice as I think he is, lol. Agree completely, finzzup!! I am honestly so tired of these two. Maybe it's time to stop watching. 2 1 Link to comment
Onefineday August 21 Share August 21 https://decider.com/2024/08/21/andy-cohen-asks-brandi-glanville-watch-him-kate-chastain-have-sex-leaked-video/ Someone is going to be distancing herself from Andy Cohen. 1 1 Link to comment
NYCRunner September 5 Share September 5 I was hoping Kelly would come back from her 5-6 week? summer vacation with new hairdo, wardrobe, ability to speak, lack of leg shaking, something refreshing for the audience but alas, no such luck lol! And Lola seems to be the star of their summer vaca. Think they're promoting her music career. There are mixed reviews on that. I'm already bored. 5 Link to comment
finnzup September 5 Share September 5 Agree 100% NYCRunner, there's nothing new except the Stump Mark shirt. And the leg shaking was in full throttle mode yesterday in her green dress. Agree with you about Lola and their pushing the singing career. I've seen several of Lola's IG posts with her singing, and the singing is fine, but her delivery is cringeworthy. Don't understand who is telling her to continue delivering her music in this way on social media. 1 1 Link to comment
NYCRunner September 6 Share September 6 Sorry to say but Lola acts like a nepo baby & to me is just not likeable. I do like that their two sons seems to stay out of the limelight. 4 Link to comment
maggiemae September 10 Share September 10 (edited) I do not get their connection with their 3rd child's college...always going there together or not, and entertaining his fellow wrestlers. But even in off season. Any one? They do the same with Lola. But just Michael doesn't have the time off working to go on vacation. Edited September 10 by maggiemae Link to comment
NYCRunner September 11 Share September 11 I believe they bought or at least rent a house in Ann Arbor where the youngest goes to Univ of Michigan. It's so weird!! Give the kid some space. I would be mortified if my parents did that when I went away to college. Maybe they think because they're "celebs" they can get away with it? Cringe. 3 Link to comment
finnzup September 12 Share September 12 omg, I really can't stand her. So Kelllmeeee has the nerve to interrupt the plastic surgeon while he's showing a patient's tummy tuck surgery and she asks about her 'shar pei' skin she has on her stomach after having 3 caesarians. As she stands there in her skin tight pencil skirt with only her protruding belly button sticking out. How thirsty is she? How much does she crave kudos for maintaining her skeletal body? How many IG posts have we seen with her in a teeny-tiny bikini. I've never seen all that wrinkly, hanging skin she talked about with the Dr. Have any of you? lol omg, there's just something so unlikeable about her. 2 1 1 Link to comment
ByaNose September 13 Share September 13 Kelly was great back in the day when she was poor. Unfortunately, all of that has withered away. They only do the show live Monday thru Wednesday. It’s crazy. She (and, Mark) are making millions and millions of dollars and they can’t even do the show live on Thursday. Of course, they do have time to fly to Ann Arbor every weekend for the 3-4 days. I know most parents visit their kids at college maybe once or twice at college for the semester but not every frickin weekend. It’s great that they are close but it’s like they want to experience college with him. Lola is living abroad trying to be a singer but I don’t think she actually has a job (that I know of) because she’s spent all summer with them which they love from the pictures I’ve seen. It’s rich people problems and I’m sure a lot of people would love to do it too but it just galls me (jealous anyone) that they can’t even do 4 live shows. Heck! Even Hoda and Jenna do that. I will say I think Mark has been a huge improvement over Ryan though so that’s a plus (a small plus). All that said, I don’t know if the 3 day live schedule + two taped shows is a budget thing for LIVE and/or Disney or just a contractual thing set up by Kelly & Mark. Either way, I usually delete the Thursday and Friday shows from jump. Rant over. 4 Link to comment
NYCRunner September 14 Share September 14 ByaNose-so agree with everything you've said. I just cannot stand them pretending to be there on Thursday & Friday! It says prerecorded on the screen. We're not dumb. What a life these two have afforded themselves. Making millions working a few hours a week. 3 Link to comment
finnzup September 16 Share September 16 Just getting around to looking at the crap-chat of Monday morning. What on earth did Kellllmeee do to her hair? Is she letting her gray come through on the side? Did she go so blonde on the side that it looks white? I truly thought the right side of her head was shaved bald. Total different hair and make-up today, the eyebrows, the blush and the same Joker lips. And btw, what on earth was she wearing? Looked like she made a baggy dress from some thrift-shop draperies from the 50's. And again, Gelman, shut up! 2 Link to comment
NYCRunner September 16 Share September 16 2 hours ago, finnzup said: Just getting around to looking at the crap-chat of Monday morning. What on earth did Kellllmeee do to her hair? Is she letting her gray come through on the side? Did she go so blonde on the side that it looks white? I truly thought the right side of her head was shaved bald. Total different hair and make-up today, the eyebrows, the blush and the same Joker lips. And btw, what on earth was she wearing? Looked like she made a baggy dress from some thrift-shop draperies from the 50's. And again, Gelman, shut up! LOL, finnzup! I am watching about two minutes in & came here to see if anyone commented on Kelly's hair!! WTF??? With all her $, she could have the most gorgeous hair color. Do not get it. And the style is soooo boring. Even if she doesn't cut it, put it in a pony tail, bun, just something once in awhile. And the dress comment, I am dying 🤣 2 1 1 Link to comment
SanDiegoInExile September 17 Share September 17 Host chat is always available on https://livewithkellyandmark.com/topic/videos/ 1 Link to comment
finnzup September 17 Share September 17 11 hours ago, Mindthinkr said: Now I’m wondering what I missed. Not much other than the same old leg shaking, arms clenched in front and constant sleeve-pushing up.....other than that the new stuff would be crazy hair color on one side, Grouch Marx eyebrows, clown red blush and Tik-Tok joker lips. Oh, and the dress made of Nonna Ripa's drapes, lol. 4 Link to comment
NYCRunner September 18 Share September 18 On today's show Kelly was begging Art Moore not to retire. She never did that with Regis. Was kicking his can to the curb as fast as she & Gelman could. My son was asking me today (because I had the show on) how Regis died & I said just old age. I told him about how Kelly disparaged him in her book. My son said "after he died? that's disgusting". Yep. 1 1 Link to comment
finnzup September 19 Share September 19 19 hours ago, NYCRunner said: On today's show Kelly was begging Art Moore not to retire. Yes, she's gone on and on about Art reconsidering his retirement. I get the feeling that Art may have had something to do with Kellllmeeee and her shaky start (still shaky, imo, lol) at Live! and may have exercised some of his Executive powers in either keeping her or mentoring her or both. She seems very much indebted to Art if you listened to any of her ramblings about him; much more so than Reege giving her a break and enduring her and all her weaknesses. I think Art is probably a very lovely, generous man and I wish him all the best. I hope that he is retiring because 'it's time' and not that he has a health issue. And I would be remiss if I did not mention Kelllmeee's outfit today! Oh my goodness!!! How do they let her walk out in these hideous outfits? It was sooooo big for her. She truly looks like she is suffering from a debilitating disease. If I saw her in any other situation other than entertainment, I would absolutely think she was suffering from an extremely serious illness. 2 Link to comment
chitowngirl September 19 Share September 19 Art has been working at ABC for 53 years! Let the man retire!! 5 Link to comment
NYCRunner September 20 Share September 20 3 hours ago, finnzup said: Yes, she's gone on and on about Art reconsidering his retirement. I get the feeling that Art may have had something to do with Kellllmeeee and her shaky start (still shaky, imo, lol) at Live! and may have exercised some of his Executive powers in either keeping her or mentoring her or both. She seems very much indebted to Art if you listened to any of her ramblings about him; much more so than Reege giving her a break and enduring her and all her weaknesses. I think Art is probably a very lovely, generous man and I wish him all the best. I hope that he is retiring because 'it's time' and not that he has a health issue. And I would be remiss if I did not mention Kelllmeee's outfit today! Oh my goodness!!! How do they let her walk out in these hideous outfits? It was sooooo big for her. She truly looks like she is suffering from a debilitating disease. If I saw her in any other situation other than entertainment, I would absolutely think she was suffering from an extremely serious illness. I just wish she would sit still, especially in beginning of this crap chat. And yes, it's almost like they are trying to hide how thin she is now vs the early years of her wearing tight clothing and flexing her biceps lol. She is painfully thin. When Mark talks about food ex., hamburger, she looks so disgusted. 2 2 Link to comment
finnzup September 23 Share September 23 And on today's episode of the Itchy Itchersons.....Kelllmeeee scratches the back of her extensions for the umpteenth time and Mark keeps scratching his backside. What in the fresh hell is it with these two?! lol Very boring crap chat, left the room and walked back in to see the contestant win the trip and the cool trivia dancer--Happy Birthday!! 1 2 Link to comment
NYCRunner September 27 Share September 27 Did anyone notice the poor girl with the bangs finally say "oh my god" after Kelly wasn't giving it up? Too funny. 2 Link to comment
finnzup September 27 Share September 27 16 hours ago, NYCRunner said: Did anyone notice the poor girl with the bangs finally say "oh my god" after Kelly wasn't giving it up? Too funny. Which day was this from? I'd like to roll the videotape and watch it, lol. Link to comment
NYCRunner September 27 Share September 27 1 hour ago, finnzup said: Which day was this from? I'd like to roll the videotape and watch it, lol. Yesterday's episode😊 1 Link to comment
finnzup September 27 Share September 27 NYC Runner, yes, I just this minute saw it. omg, no words; after 10 minutes of "2,2,2; 3,2,2; 3,2,1, blah, blah blah..." I finally saw her utter the omg. Poor thing. Then the swaddling segment?? Wth?!?!? Such an awful show! 1 Link to comment
NYCRunner September 28 Share September 28 3 hours ago, finnzup said: NYC Runner, yes, I just this minute saw it. omg, no words; after 10 minutes of "2,2,2; 3,2,2; 3,2,1, blah, blah blah..." I finally saw her utter the omg. Poor thing. Then the swaddling segment?? Wth?!?!? Such an awful show! Lol, SO bad!! That poor girl in the audience. Looks like she wanted to crawl under a rock by the end. And agree, the swaddling segment was dead on arrival. I had 2nd hand embarrassment 😩 1 Link to comment
maggiemae September 30 Share September 30 I haven't really watched since Regis...but tuned in for Mark. I do think he is amusing...but OMG now he is pushing up his sleeves too! What's up with that? I know sometimes he wears tee-shirts that are short sleeved and also jackets. And Kelly's bracelet so far up her arm? Link to comment
Medicine Crow September 30 Share September 30 56 minutes ago, maggiemae said: I haven't really watched since Regis...but tuned in for Mark. I do think he is amusing...but OMG now he is pushing up his sleeves too! What's up with that? I know sometimes he wears tee-shirts that are short sleeved and also jackets. And Kelly's bracelet so far up her arm? I know!! What a pathetic duo!!! Link to comment
finnzup October 2 Share October 2 Just a few observations with the new season: There seems to be no more host chat 'stories;' they immediately come out and start with the news clippings and ridiculous factoids. Who cares? I can't imagine anyone in their demographic caring about the ridiculous information they are sharing. Kellllmeeee's wardrobe seems to have diminished along with her size. She seems to be wearing the same three outfits ad nauseum. And I don't know if it's a fashion statement, but she never changes the black cami she wears under her outfits which is particularly visible when she wears her light-colored blouses. Maybe her clothing allowance stopped when she ended her Fashion-Finder? She seemed to wear many more outfits years ago as compared to present times. She is still incapable of forming a complete sentence without stammering and pausing...it's incredible that her lack of communication skills have never improved over time. Mark seems to finish her stories or thoughts; as though he just wants to cut to the chase. There have been a few times when he just steps all over her lines and takes control of the conversation. I don't think she likes that. On another note, I see their first-born, "he who shall not be mentioned," is now a Segment Producer for Andy Cohen's RHWNY. Wonder how he moved up the ladder so quickly? 3 1 1 Link to comment
NYCRunner October 2 Share October 2 Just watched today's host chat & what stood out to me was when she was talking about the death of the founder of Joaquin's school he went to for dyslexia. I, I, I (referring to herself) never a we (referring to her & Mark) when talking about how meaningful she was in Joaquin's life. Gosh, I really can't stand her. And she started off with something like I'll make this brief. LOL, nothing is ever brief with Kelly. Cannot agree more with finnzup & the limited outfits. Pencil skirts, old lady blouses, baggy dresses, boring pumps. That is it, every day. Add to that the dated hairstyle that never ever changes. 4 Link to comment
ByaNose October 5 Share October 5 On 9/5/2024 at 8:11 PM, NYCRunner said: Sorry to say but Lola acts like a nepo baby & to me is just not likeable. I do like that their two sons seems to stay out of the limelight. Lola lives in England and is trying to make it as a singer. Great! How the heck is she paying for all of that? I doubt she’s waiting tables or working at the local Target. Nepo Alert‼️ Kelly and Mark always say their kids work hard and have jobs. It’s more like they have fun jobs…….with help from their parents. Heck! Who can blame them. It’s all they know. Now, I read that the oldest son is working for Andy Cohen. I’m sure he started in the mail room…not. I thought he lived in LA. In theory, with everyone working from home he still might be. I also read that their youngest, Joaquin is studying to be an actor at Michigan. This is simply shocking…..not. There won’t be any under fives for him. It’s leading man or nothing at all. Once again, you can’t blame him but I don’t want to read or see any interviews from Kelly and Mark saying they aren’t helping him. I know people say it’s like any family business. That might be true but they aren’t starting at the bottom. It’s the top with $$$$ from the folks. Also, before you ask. Yes. I am a hater and very jealous. LOL!!! Finally, I haven’t watched the show since Art’s last day. I have 6 episodes on my dvr (minus Thursday and Friday’s) which I don’t watch. Did I miss anything? 1 Link to comment
BlueSkies October 6 Share October 6 Since most people in this thread really can't stand Kelly. What keeps you tuning into the show then? 2 2 Link to comment
SanDiegoInExile October 6 Share October 6 I have never really understood the Hate Watch thing, but it's a thing for many programs and many people who visit message boards. I enjoy Live, don't really care all that much whether it's on tape (I live in CA. Virtually everything but award shows and sports are on tape), and think that Mark has rejuvenated the show (and Kelly) in so many ways. Never have tuned in for the interviews. I am there for Host Chat. I rarely watch the guest interviews, but when I do watch beyond the first 22 minutes, the guests always seem really jazzed to be there at 9AM (or 11A for the Thursday/Friday shows). I have watched since 1987, when Regis and Kathie Lee first launched the syndicated show. Time magazine called it one of the best new shows of 1987 - not best new daytime show, but among all new television programs that season. Kelly and Mark may be the best co-host combo since then. The Host Chat may be overly-reliant on news tidbits, though many of them do lead to discussions between the co-hosts. They seem to have found a balance between the planned topics and sharing the events in their lives. The show will be moving to the new studio some time next year. Art Moore gave that as one reason he was retiring. Kelly and Gelman and the WABC management are likely spending huge chunks of their time plotting that move. She has been an ABC team player for over three decades, the show is top-rated in its category, and the hosts just won Emmys. Does the occasional leg shake, repeat outfit, or exaggerated stammer make me turn it off. Nope. 3 Link to comment
Medicine Crow October 6 Share October 6 14 hours ago, BlueSkies said: Since most people in this thread really can't stand Kelly. What keeps you tuning into the show then? Kinda like an imminent train wreck?? 1 Link to comment
NYCRunner October 7 Share October 7 Will Kelly be in the same building as GMA with Michael Strahan? Awkward! I guarantee that Kelly & Mark will not make the schlep from the UES to some awful area (from what I've read) of Manhattan. They can barely make it across Central Park as it is three days a week. 👋 👋 2 Link to comment
SanDiegoInExile October 8 Share October 8 Yes, WABC is moving their entire operation to the new Disney building. The View co-hosts have been saying for weeks that the building/facility is humongous. Joy keeps getting lost (or so the joke goes). Kelly and Mark will only be there Mon-Tue-Wed. GMA is allegedly moving in 2025, although there are plenty of articles out from earlier in 2024 saying GMA does not want to move, so we will find out next year. https://www.newyorkyimby.com/2024/08/disneys-new-york-headquarters-completes-construction-at-7-hudson-square-in-hudson-square-manhattan.html 1 1 Link to comment
finnzup October 14 Share October 14 Maybe Kellllmeeee's neighbors were in "Long Island" over the week-end and just forgot to turn off their Halloween decorations, lol. Holy cow!! Can these two be any more obnoxious?? How about walking across the street and asking nicely to have the animatronics turned off instead of blasting their neighbors on national TV? And it wasn't said in fun, these two were pi$$ed! As far as the opening segment with Kelllmeeee explaining the northern lights pictures, omg!!! She can beat a dead horse to death. I could be wrong, but I think Gelman was the only one laughing in the background. I could go on, but I won't, lol. 2 1 1 Link to comment
finnzup October 16 Share October 16 I want to know what's happening with the Stump Mark segment. It has definitely changed and not in a good way. Imo, MARK CONSUELOS!!!! is phoning it in. He doesn't seem to enjoy it anymore, he doesn't have fun with the callers anymore, he doesn't have that clever repartee he used to have with the callers and the audience. Something has changed and I don't like it, lol. Link to comment
NYCRunner October 17 Share October 17 1 hour ago, finnzup said: I want to know what's happening with the Stump Mark segment. It has definitely changed and not in a good way. Imo, MARK CONSUELOS!!!! is phoning it in. He doesn't seem to enjoy it anymore, he doesn't have fun with the callers anymore, he doesn't have that clever repartee he used to have with the callers and the audience. Something has changed and I don't like it, lol. Interesting! About to get to the Stump Mark segment of today's show. But if Kelly doesn't stop bouncing in her chair I am going to lose my mind!! Just now, NYCRunner said: Interesting! About to get to the Stump Mark segment of today's show. But if Kelly doesn't stop bouncing in her chair I am going to lose my mind!! Yes, he is definitely bored/annoyed with the segment. And ignores the dancer too, lol. 1 1 Link to comment
finnzup October 17 Share October 17 (edited) 10 hours ago, NYCRunner said: Yes, he is definitely bored/annoyed with the segment. And ignores the dancer too, lol. 100% Something is off with him. I agree with the annoyed descriptive. He looks away a lot, looks to the side a lot, doesn't smile like he used to and either seems bugged at Kellllmeeeee or something behind the scenes that we are not privy to. Agree with Kellllmeeee and her jumping....it starts at her hip and her whole thigh and leg just go a mile a minute and it's so distracting. Also, I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Kelllmeeeee was so dang annoyed, and she made no bones about showing her annoyance, when Reege gave a weather report with the copy of the weather each day and then he would begin his sports talk and she would be doubly annoyed! Now she sits there and applauds with her seal-clap and grins like the Cheshire Cat at her immortal beloved when he does exactly the same thing. Why was she so disrespectful to Regis when he did the same things MARK CONSUELOS is doing now? Edited October 17 by finnzup 1 1 Link to comment
finnzup October 17 Share October 17 19 hours ago, finnzup said: want to know what's happening with the Stump Mark segment. It has definitely changed and not in a good way. Imo, MARK CONSUELOS!!!! is phoning it in. He doesn't seem to enjoy it anymore, he doesn't have fun with the callers anymore, he doesn't have that clever repartee he used to have with the callers and the audience. Something has changed and I don't like it, lol. Did you all hear Kelly mutter "so dumb" during the Stump Mark segment as they were showing the t-shirt and when Mark was finished, he too said, "sooo dumb." Almost like they said aloud what they were thinking but forgot the mics were on. Here's what I think. Kelllmeeeee couldn't handle the fact that in a few short months, MARK CONSUELOS!!!! had become so popular with the audience and I think she got into his head and made him think that the Stump Mark segment made him appear foolish. And, in case Kelllmeeee and MARK CONSUELOS!!! haven't mentioned it lately, remember that MARK CONSUELOS!!! has a healthy dose of machismo and I don't think his old school charm and macho could take the fact, unfounded as it was, that he was being played the fool for the show. We saw how she cut the throats of her previous hosts, beginning with Reege, who could ever believe she'd cut her own husband's throat? lol 1 1 1 Link to comment
ByaNose October 22 Share October 22 Kelly & Mark saw a Broadway show. Kelly told her version. Mark started to tell his version but Kelly interrupted him. He shut that down right away saying she already told her side and now it was his turn. She doesn’t like that he will tell the story, not stammer, have a smile and the audience might applaud. LOL!!!! I’ve been watching LIVE since jump when it aired nationally in Philadelphia. Regis WAS the show and so good. I have been through all the ups and downs with the hosts. Kelly was great in the begging but has totally regressed and not for the better. Mark gave the show a good shot in the arm but I hardly even get through host chat. Sometimes I don’t even get past host chat if there isn't a good guest. I miss the old days. I used to love it when Regis would host and Joy would sit it. He would talk about his sisters in laws “The Winds of War & “ Gentle Breeze”. LOL!!! So funny. That said, there were people who didn’t like Joy. When Kelly took over the lead hosting the show was never the same for me. It’s been on for ever and does well in the ratings but it isn’t my morning newspaper 🗞️ like the old days. I miss it. 4 4 Link to comment
NYCRunner October 22 Share October 22 Kelly was absolutely insufferable today during host chat & the Buccaneers discussion. It looked like Mark was crawling out of his skin in annoyance with her. I certainly was. Its all about me me me Kelly Kelly Kelly!!! Ugh, I just can't stand her. And who put her in those humongous sleeves??? 3 1 Link to comment
Buffytoes October 24 Share October 24 I've been watching Live! for decades and it still uplifts me every morning. The sarcastic humor is understood for most folks and long-married couples (I'm one, I know!) A funny, positive dynamic between couples is common with mild eye rolling, funny banter and best yet, it's fun for audiences and great ratings which Live! excels at year after year after year as stats show. The Consuelos family as a whole is a testament to a positive upbringing with education, schooling, and solid values and work ethic with supportive parents. I'd be visiting the young adults too if I was in their shoes and had worked hard to get to the success level afforded them. In fact, our own young adults moved away excitedly to experience the world and we visited all of them with some short and not-so-short flights and some very long drives - 4 hours to 3 days of driving to get there. Thats a fun thing and a nice getaway once empty nesters. I see a married couple with a great sense of humor who have a healthy, respectful relationship. It's well known they enjoy a close relationship with Michael Gelman (& Art) and a wonderful long term staff that's like family to everyone.:) i 2 2 Link to comment
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