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6 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

I mean, Swaggy should have figured out Tyler was playing for the other side of the house long ago, but I guess better late than never! He plans to nominate Tyler/Kaitlyn now if he wins HOH. 

Well, boy, then you better hope your side wins veto and keeps noms the same! Sure, they're sacrificing Scottie, but Swaggy vs Tyler may be better than Swaggy vs Winston!

It sounds good, but we know Tyler out hustles Swaggy by a lot and has a much better read on everything. I suspect that would be anti-climatic to be honest.

Scottie running to Swaggy with everything is one reason I don't really care for him. For one thing , scottie has to know he's totally expendable to that side. For such an alleged gamer, he lacks any finesse.

6 hours ago, Caseysgirl said:

He barely seemed to respond to overtures of friendship and just kept listening in to others conversations and reporting them to Chris.  Now that he’s on the block, he’s trying to be Mr. Personality. He’s in every room, with every group, giving massages, giving up his place in the shower line; he may even let someone kiss him at this rate. I

I know. Scottie was giving me flashbacks to BB15's Andy last night. Cringe indeed.

6 hours ago, kellog010 said:

Also, I tend to gravitate toward Level 6 right now because even with Winston's paranoia, they are showing less cracks in their alliance and do talk to other people in the house not in their alliance. The Sacred 6 are not as good about that in my opinion.

I was just thinking one probable side benefit of Winston getting taken out would be Level 6 pulling Sam in tighter. That works for me. For all the talk that Sam has no idea what she's doing, mostly by Winston, I think she's fine right now. She's noticeably relaxed by about 90% without the robot thing weighing her down.  

6 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

I think she will BD Swaggy, but she might hope that noms stay the same if things change. 

I hope she will, but I think she's going to freak out that that whole side will hate and probably shun her, including her darling Faysal.

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10 hours ago, zorak said:

Sam says if you agree to work with/for Swaggy, you agree to lose to Swaggy.

Does Sam think she can beat her #1 Tyler? LOL!

10 hours ago, zorak said:

Sam was talking to Kaycee about listening in on conversations in robot form when people forgot she was there or thought she wasn't there even though the robot was around.  

Oh good! I was hoping she would do this. Doesn't seem like it's amounted to anything yet, but maybe something will come of it eventually.

10 hours ago, zorak said:

At some point in the convo going on in the blue bedroom right now, I heard Brett say that production told them to not play to the cameras because it gets annoying after awhile.  Rachel said, "Oops."  I bet she doesn't stop though.

Rachel doesn't even play to the camera that much so I don't know why she would be 'oops'ing about that lol.

10 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

Whoever's behind the monitors tonight is doing a pretty bad job.

They've been pretty bad most of the time I've been watching tbh. Lots of stuff that they would've fished immediately in previous seasons has been allowed to go on for awhile this season. It's kinda weird.

As for Level 6 vs. Sacred 6, I am not that interested in watching either of them as a group, although I probably prefer Level 6's interactions to Sacred 6. But I'm only mildly interested in a couple from each group so each group together doesn't really do it for me.

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Some stuff from last night:

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Angela: You wanna do a butt workout? It looks really girly though.
Winston: What does it look like?
Angela: *demonstrates*
Winston: Oh yeah, I'll pass.
Angela: It works your butt really well, but like I said, you'd look really gay.

Well OK then.

Winston is hilarious. I just wish he'd actually follow through or some on the shit he says though. I need drama!

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If it's true that Swaggy is gunning for Kaitlyn/Tyler if Swaggy's side gets the next HOH, I hope the word somehow gets around to those 2.  I think it would increase the odds that she would for sure backdoor him if the opportunity does present itself.  I'm not really a Scottie fan though so in some ways, I think it would be fitting if one of Swaggy's crew wins veto and leaves him on the block because they don't want to risk one of their alliance members being put up if he comes off and then Scottie goes home.  I would think that Scottie would have to realize that if Swaggy knows Kaitlyn doesn't want him playing veto, he just might jump to the conclusion that it's because she wants to backdoor him and doesn't want there to be any chance that he could win it.  By opening his mouth to Swaggy, Scottie just might have sealed his own fate if those noms stay the same as a result.  Does anyone know if people from Swaggy's side have given Scottie assurances that they will take Scottie down if they win veto?

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Brett is all sweaty from working out and Winston is taking a shower.

I swear, this is exactly how most gay porn starts. 

Was watching them work out shirtless on BBAD, then the two of them went into the next room and one of them asked "Are we going to get more protein?"

You can't make this shit up. These two just need to fuck already.

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11 hours ago, vb68 said:

Winston is back on the "Sam is a liability and has no idea how to play this game" train.

From where I'm sitting, she doing better than you, Bro!

For that reason alone, I’d want Winston to leave even though I’m on the Level 6 side. T

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2 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

He was actually told in the TVGuide interview that Kaitlyn was the swing vote. Whoever's running Steve's Twitter also confirmed he was coming home yesterday.

Oh, he's a pretty smart guy, but his ego gets in the way of him playing a good game. He thinks he's the Big Man on Campus, who couldn't possibly be blinsided by people he trusts. He still hasn't clued in that Kaitlyn might put him up, despite him zoning in on her maybe being the hinky vote.

It depends on what goes down between today and Monday. Tyler's going to continue to circle around Kaitlyn to ensure she goes through with the plan, and despite everything Kaitlyn says about making her own decisions, she hates Swaggy now and she kind of does whatever Tyler says. It doesn't matter if she's getting closer to Faysal at the moment, because Tyler's there as well. I think she will BD Swaggy, but she might hope that noms stay the same if things change. 

I stand corrected. 

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2 minutes ago, Skycatcher said:

Huh? What's this?

I heard her talking about how the cash prizes had changed or something along those lines to some others last night.  But I didn't hear the beginning of it.  I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention but it seemed like they already knew what she was talking about. 

 

7 minutes ago, Figster said:

Also, I'm annoyed that production is feeding her extra info like cash prizes, etc. She's been using this to her advantage, and prod. had to warn her to "stop using production" in the game, but that's all she's got it seems.

 

Did she actually say that they had told her this and the rest of them didn't know about it?

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Angela and Scottie are talking in the classroom.  She told him that if she got picked to play veto she would ask Kaitlyn what Kaitlyn wants her to do in terms of using it or not.

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14 minutes ago, Figster said:

I do admit I'm the sort that irrationally dislikes the HGs whom the fans fawns over and decide to turn into some kind of super player/hero in their minds LOL. 

That's part of why I hate Tyler. I already hated him, but the fact that he's so popular just makes me hate him more lol.

ETA: Angela thinks Scottie got the reward app and that he can bring back Steve. Or something lol. Even Winston thinks she's deranged with that.

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3 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

That's part of why I hate Tyler. I already hated him, but the fact that he's so popular just makes me hate him more lol.

ETA: Angela thinks Scottie got the reward app and that he can bring back Steve. Or something lol. Even Winston thinks she's deranged with that.

I’m indifferent to Tyler. I don’t like or hate him. I will say he’s playing a Paul-esq game. He appears to be the head of the alliance and everyone looks for guidance and suggestions from Tyler. He’s not as much of a monster like Paul was nor a jerk. He’s really playing everyone and it might bite him in the butt.

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18 minutes ago, Figster said:

My perception of the convo was that she was revealing some new info to the other HGs.  But no, Sam didn't literally say something like "Only I know this info."  

My thought would be that if it's true, then they all know.  Because the only reason they would increase the prize money would be to incentivize people to play the damn game, instead of just "getting to jury."  So in order to create that incentive, the cast members would have to know.

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47 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

I will say he’s playing a Paul-esq game

I disagree there. I just don't see that. Tyler's much subtler than that and is fine without dominating everything everyone else does. Paul was like a rhino running loose on the street. I think Tyler is trying to be more like Derrick , who nobody ever seriously suspected, but it sounds like Swaggy is already on to him.  He only got  fed up with Level 6 when he couldn't lead them to the obvious conclusion that Sam had the power.

And again, I think he is a legit caring person. That came out with Sam and even to a certain degree with Kaitlyn. Now he certainly wanted to use them, but I think it gets to him when someone's genuinely upset. 

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More "we love each other like brother and sister, no showmance here" behavior from Swaggy towards Bayleigh. He was laying in the bed caressing her arm and back.  Just admit what everyone already knows!

 

 

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I think Swaggy just whispered to Bayleigh that if Tyler wins the veto he'd be seen as a huge threat over Swaggy.  At least I think that's what he said.  It was a little muffled.

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I think Rachel was picked to play.  I'm pretty sure that Swaggy and Bayleigh were in the room talking about getting Rachel to leave the noms the same and try to pull her in to maybe vote Winston out.  I just heard JC whispering to Rachel something about Faysal and the others being super nice to her for a reason.  I love how JC is holding his mic up right in front of his mouth as he's talking to Brett.  He's definitely trying to avoid a message from BB to not obstruct his mic in this moment.  If only the rest of them would be so considerate to us when they're whispering to each other.

JC is telling Scottie that he needs to make sure that Rachel will use the veto on Scottie.  Faysal also got picked to play.

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36 minutes ago, vb68 said:

I disagree there. I just don't see that. Tyler's much subtler than that and is fine without dominating everything everyone else does. Paul was like a rhino running loose on the street. I think Tyler is trying to be more like Derrick , who nobody ever seriously suspected, but it sounds like Swaggy is already on to him.  He only got  fed up with Level 6 when he couldn't lead them to the obvious conclusion that Sam had the power.

And again, I think he is a legit caring person. That came out with Sam and even to a certain degree with Kaitlyn. Now he certainly wanted to use them, but I think it gets to him when someone's genuinely upset. 

He reminds me a bit of Dan (which from me is a real compliment as Dan is my favorite player), but with his own personality in there. I watch Tyler when he talks to people and it strikes me as similar to him - a calm listener who seems capable of changing his approach based on the personality of whoever it is he's speaking with. It's early, though, so I don't want to make a grand statement with any kind of finality.

Also, I don't like Derrick (never have) so I just can't bring myself to compare Tyler, who I like a lot, to him haha.

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2 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I swear, this is exactly how most gay porn starts. 

Was watching them work out shirtless on BBAD, then the two of them went into the next room and one of them asked "Are we going to get more protein?"

You can't make this shit up. These two just need to fuck already.

Dying. ? ? 

I have to (begrudgingly!) give Kaitlyn credit for her noms and her backdoor plan. They're actually reasonably strategic, instead of the bitter junior high drama I thought for sure she was going to go for. 

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Rockstar, Bayleigh, Kaitlyn, Scottie, and Haleigh are up in HOH.  They were talking about how Winston didn't even hug Rachel after they picked for veto.  They think that Rachel will not use the veto if she gets it because she knows Angela would be at risk for going up.  Kaitlyn is doing a great job going along with all of this.  I hope the plan to backdoor Swaggy works.

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22 minutes ago, zorak said:

Faysal also got picked to play.

I'm assuming Kaitlyn picked him to play.

 

19 minutes ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

He reminds me a bit of Dan (which from me is a real compliment as Dan is my favorite player), but with his own personality in there. I watch Tyler when he talks to people and it strikes me as similar to him - a calm listener who seems capable of changing his approach based on the personality of whoever it is he's speaking with

I think you are point on here. I really liked Dan, too. :)

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Tyler is talking to Kaitlyn about moving out to LA when the show is over.  He says he has big goals to do big things.  Kaitlyn's goal is to make sure her book gets published, put out a hard copy, do a book tour, and start doing talks.  They just pimped her life coaching website.

Tyler says he has a hard time talking about his goals to other people.  He likes to keep it to himself because he feels like it's a promise to himself or something.  He says he feels like if he talks about it, it doesn't become real.  Kaitlyn says most people are the opposite.

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So I'm seeing stuff elsewhere about Big Brother getting on the PA system and giving them a message about sensitivity. It's weird because normally I would agree but I feel like it's really ruining the feeds this season and I'm getting really fucking annoyed at Big Brother for this. I realize that things have changed a lot in the past five years but after letting it all hang out on BB15, never stopping Frankie Grande from all of his gross comments on BB16... now the HGs going to be afraid to open their mouths. 

Get a new casting person. Do some actual research into the people that we're going to be watching for 99 days. If the fans can dig up shit on the HGs in under 24 hours, they should be able to, too. (Yeah, I know. I think JC was casted because of all of the stuff he has online - he's supposed to be like a gift to the feed detectives or something.)

Hiding Kaitlyn from the feeds the one night, hiding Rachel and Angela another night, cutting away from rooms and then giving us four cameras on Bayleigh/Swaggy smack slurp making out in the storage room is frustrating. Just show it, warts and all. Let Twitter and Tumblr work themselves into a frothy frenzy over whether white people can sing along to a Drake song without censoring themselves - they typically stay in their own little echo chambers. But let the rest of us get what (most of us) are paying for: the feeds. 

Sorry, I think I'm super-ranty today and this has been frustrating me for the past couple nights of feed watching.

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So Winston, who doesn't want to tell Sam anything for fear she will expose plans, is talking to Angela about how they need to make sure Sam doesn't fall for Swaggy and company's tricks to suck up to her.  He says she's impressionable.

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It drives Winston crazy that Sam is nice to the "other side". I love that she does this. Winston thinks she doesn't know how to play, she is nice to that side. It is Winston that does not get the social aspect to the game. Kaitlyn is very good at this as well. She will talk to anyone. 
I love how Kaitlyn is doing what SHE wants. Last night JC telling her, DONT pick Fessy. Pick Tyler , me anyone but Fessy. She says "I know". And she picks Fessy ( i dont know if it was a pick or choice) but I just love it. 
She is great to watch. 
I am finally finding this an interesting group to watch. There are great people throughout the house. 

ETA: Oh, I now see Winston camplaining to Anglea that Sam is doing RS's hair and being too nice to her. He wants Angela to remind her who voted her out. Ang does not think it is a good approach but she will talk to KC who has already talked to Sam.
 

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1 minute ago, zorak said:

So Winston, who doesn't want to tell Sam anything for fear she will expose plans, is talking to Angela about how they need to make sure Sam doesn't fall for Swaggy and company's tricks to suck up to her.  He says she's impressionable.

And it sounds like Winston doesn’t want her talking to the other side, like she’s doing while doing Rockstar’s hair. So stupid.

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And it sounds like Winston doesn’t want her talking to the other side, like she’s doing while doing Rockstar’s hair. So stupid.

He is ridiculous.  Sam can talk to whoever the hell she wants to and she just might get farther in the game than Winston because of it.

Now Swaggy is telling Faysal to not trust Rockstar.  He says he won't say anything if she's in the room.

Faysal says they need to get Tyler and Brett out first and then she (probably Kaitlyn) will be right back to where they want her.

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13 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

So I'm seeing stuff elsewhere about Big Brother getting on the PA system and giving them a message about sensitivity. It's weird because normally I would agree but I feel like it's really ruining the feeds this season and I'm getting really fucking annoyed at Big Brother for this. I realize that things have changed a lot in the past five years but after letting it all hang out on BB15, never stopping Frankie Grande from all of his gross comments on BB16... now the HGs going to be afraid to open their mouths. 

Get a new casting person. Do some actual research into the people that we're going to be watching for 99 days. If the fans can dig up shit on the HGs in under 24 hours, they should be able to, too. (Yeah, I know. I think JC was casted because of all of the stuff he has online - he's supposed to be like a gift to the feed detectives or something.)

Hiding Kaitlyn from the feeds the one night, hiding Rachel and Angela another night, cutting away from rooms and then giving us four cameras on Bayleigh/Swaggy smack slurp making out in the storage room is frustrating. Just show it, warts and all. Let Twitter and Tumblr work themselves into a frothy frenzy over whether white people can sing along to a Drake song without censoring themselves - they typically stay in their own little echo chambers. But let the rest of us get what (most of us) are paying for: the feeds. 

Sorry, I think I'm super-ranty today and this has been frustrating me for the past couple nights of feed watching.

I think the thing that's irking me about it is that Big Brother seemed perfectly fine the last however many years exploiting the insensitivity (shall we call it) of people they themselves cast (presumably FOR that reason), and now they're wildly swinging the pendulum in the other direction.

I would like to believe that they actually heard people last year when the general opinion was a resounding "These people are gross. Enough.", but I'm a cynic by nature (and especially where Big Brother is concerned) so I doubt it.

Don't get me wrong; I don't want to see people act like the dregs of the earth all day every day, but if they had been doing a better job casting, that wouldn't be an issue anyway. To me, it seems kind of like a disingenuous overcompensation and it's affecting the feeds.

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Rachel and Kaitlyn were discussing Kaitlyn's resemblance to Nicole Ritchie.

Kaitlyn is telling Rachel that the worst case scenario is that Faysal wins.  She says he'll do whatever she wants but then she'd be putting up his best friend, which would be bad for her.  If Faysal wins, I hope she doesn't chicken out or make him realize what her true intentions are so that he won't use it.

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Winston’s freakout about Sam will have the opposite effect of what he wants. I’d love Sam to be in an alliance with Kaitlyn, Tyler, Scottie, Rockstar, Kaycee, Rachel, Brett, and JC. Angela and Winston are so boring.

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I just got home from errands and didn't realize they already picked players.

So Tyler, Rachel, and Faysal have been picked. Two of which got the Crap Apps and one which is suspected to have gotten the second Power App.

Tyler/Rachel would use the veto on Winston (maybe?) and Faysal may use it on Scottie, or he may not use it at all, leading to a Scottie eviction. I could see things shifting but at this point, Winston really is safe...which sucks for me. I know Sam's a crap player and all, but the way Winston looks down on her is annoying me. Brett doesn't like Sam, but he doesn't constantly treat her like she's the stupidest person ever. He agrees with Winston on some things, but he isn't condescending. 

So, Rachel thinks Kaitlyn's backdoor plan is stupid because it gets so much blood on her hands. I can't say I disagree; I think this is a move Kaitlyn doesn't have to make. No, I don't find it smart. I think it IS a middle school move, much like her reaction to Faysal/Haleigh is to flip to the other side. This is all because she finds Swaggy mean to her and she wants to get revenge. 

My dream alliance would be Sam, Brett, Rachel, Kaycee, JC, Bayleigh, Angie, and Tyler. Kaitlyn is too erratic and clings to Brett, Tyler, and Faysal way too much. I'd include Scottie as well, but my dream alliance is already way too big. 

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4 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

So, Rachel thinks Kaitlyn's backdoor plan is stupid because it gets so much blood on her hands. I can't say I disagree; I think this is a move Kaitlyn doesn't have to make. No, I don't find it smart. I think it IS a middle school move, much like her reaction to Faysal/Haleigh is to flip to the other side. This is all because she finds Swaggy mean to her and she wants to get revenge. 

 

She might think Kaitlyn's plan is stupid but Kaitlyn just asked her who she would have put up if she had won HOH.  First she said Swaggy and then Kaitlyn wanted to know who else she would have put up against him.  But then Rachel, after a long pause of thinking, told her that she thinks that what Kaitlyn did was probably the best option.  So full sucking up is in effect.  Kaitlyn also told Rachel to maybe try to get closer to Faysal.  

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Kaitlyn and Tyler are discussing whether or not Kaitlyn should say something to Faysal about not trying to win it or not really going too hard to win it.  I think that might cast some suspicion but they think it's a good idea.

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2 minutes ago, zorak said:

Kaitlyn and Tyler are discussing whether or not Kaitlyn should say something to Faysal about not trying to win it or not really going too hard to win it.  I think that might cast some suspicion but they think it's a good idea.

I think if they frame it as him becoming a threat because he won two vetos and is a comp beast, it could work.

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Oh brother.  Kaitlyn is worrying about looking like a big threat and talking about who would vote for her at the end if she lies to all these people.  She also just brought up the possibility of Winston's group turning on her after she does their dirty work.  Tyler told her he didn't think they would but that he wouldn't let it happen.  Kaitlyn says she trusts Tyler a tiny bit more than she trusts Faysal.

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9 minutes ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

Don't get me wrong; I don't want to see people act like the dregs of the earth all day every day, but if they had been doing a better job casting, that wouldn't be an issue anyway. To me, it seems kind of like a disingenuous overcompensation and it's affecting the feeds.

Yeah, I'm not asking for them to be the very worst they could be. We know how horrible people can be on this show, we've seen it all before. But the appeal of the live feeds has always been the fact that it's the unsanitized, unedited version of the show. And now the feeds themselves are being just as sanitized and edited as the show. We all know that the feeds are like that, we've seen them break away from stuff before or not show certain things that then end up on the show. We know it's not the 100% live access that we all like to pretend it is but this is getting to the point of ridiculousness.

What's the point of the live feeds if we're going to get just as much bullshit editing on them as we do for the broadcast shows? All these warnings and friendly heads-ups that they keep getting is really ruining the idea (and that's all it is, it's never been truth) of "anything can happen" and "24/7 live access" and "Big Brother is a social experiment" and "no access to the outside world" and all the other lines they parrot every year that none of us actually believe.

I'd rather see people be themselves - even if I don't like or agree with who they are or their ideals or morals or what-have-you - than afraid to say something because social media will immediately start crying "Micro-aggression!" and "Problematic!" Use whatever excuse you have to: "It's an unedited raw view of...", "It's a teaching moment.", etc. But let it be natural and organic. Let the idiots skewer themselves, let the good people shine. Let us see it. The HGs signed up for this. Presumably they knew what they were getting themselves into and if they don't, that's on them for not doing their research. 

Or at least stop switching over to Bayleigh hawking up a lung in her microphone as a band-aid solution. Because seriously, that girl needs some Mucinex and a humidifer, stat.

41 minutes ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

I would like to believe that they actually heard people last year when the general opinion was a resounding "These people are gross. Enough.", but I'm a cynic by nature (and especially where Big Brother is concerned) so I doubt it.

I always say that The Summer of Boring (BB16) was a direct result of The Summer of Racism (BB15), so I guess this is our punishment for getting so pissed about the bullying and bullshit of BB19. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. 

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Rockstar just made some comment about getting fancy and putting on a bra.  She sounded like she was kidding.  But in light of her propensity to not wear a bra, she might have been serious.

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Swaggy talking again that Kaitlyn should be scared if he wins HOH (he was alone in triangle room). She better follow through on that back door plan for her own game.

Fessy being dense, that no one would put him up just because he won two vetos.

ETA: Kaitlyn telling Scottie and Fessy that's she'd take Scottie off he won veto. And that even if Winston won veto, she'd put up a bigger threat so Scottie won't go home. They are confident that Winston can't beat any of them in veto.

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Swaggy is in the geometry room talking to himself.  He was saying something about Faysal winning the veto and then he's in the clear.  He mentioned needing to get Tyler's dumb ass out.  And those were the exact words he used to describe Tyler.  And of course Kaitlyn is on his hit list.  She better hope that this backdoor plan works because Swaggy will be coming for her and her sweet Tyler if she doesn't.

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Swaggy is in the geometry room talking to himself.  He was saying something about Faysal winning the veto and then he's in the clear.  He mentioned needing to get Tyler's dumb ass out.  And those were the exact words he used to describe Tyler.  And of course Kaitlyn is on his hit list.  She better hope that this backdoor plan works because Swaggy will be coming for her and her sweet Tyler if she doesn't.

Swaggy said that if Fessy wins veto, he's in the clear because Fessy's putting a target on his back as a threat.

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Haleigh told Faysal that if it looks like Winston is going to win, then he should win it.  But she says if not, there's no reason for him to win it because she doesn't want him to be perceived as a threat.

Haleigh is telling him he needs to work on his social game.  He doesn't seem too on board with that.  She tells him it's part of playing BB.

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Haleigh is really trying to give Fessy a crash course on how to play this game.  She's telling him to throw the comp if it benefits him (as long as Winston isn't going to win...), and that Big Brother is a chess game, not a basketball game where he can just slam dunk in everyone's face and expect not to be a target, haha.

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Now Haleigh is telling him to win it because he said Kaitlyn is leaning towards putting Angela up if the veto is used.  She says that piece of info (which he didn't tell her at the beginning of the convo) changes everything.

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5 minutes ago, zorak said:

Haleigh told Faysal that if it looks like Winston is going to win, then he should win it.  But she says if not, there's no reason for him to win it because she doesn't want him to be perceived as a threat.

Haleigh is telling him he needs to work on his social game.  He doesn't seem too on board with that.  She tells him it's part of playing BB.

Man, S6 are DUMB. They literally have no idea that they're playing into Kaitlyn's hands with the BD. 

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Just now, Matteo said:

Haleigh is really trying to give Fessy a crash course on how to play this game.  She's telling him to throw the comp if it benefits him (as long as Winston isn't going to win...), and that Big Brother is a chess game, not a basketball game where he can just slam dunk in everyone's face and expect not to be a target, haha.

He just seems super one dimensional and it's like what Haleigh is saying does not compute.

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