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Brooklynista
Brooklynista

As dumb as I thought Sammie was for staying with Ron, she was at least smart enough to never get knocked up by him.

Drogo
Drogo

Sammi looking smarter by the day. 

duddley
duddley

Wow. That poor baby girl, saddled with these freak shows as parents.

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Artsda

Artsda

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So Angelina engaged, talking to ex and guy she cheated on ex with and sliding into married men's DMS?

She should take some responsibility get help and take time off the show like Ron has. They obsession with her jealousy of Sam is horrible. 

Sam had a house before, her contract wasn't signed with Angelina.  The show a d network wanted her back for years and tried.  Angelina would not be there had Sam said yes so maybe she should be bowing down to her. 

 

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aghst

aghst

It just started.  Ron arrived for the Nashville weekend.  Angelina may yet show up.

The flights were arranged for them, all business or first class, they got chauffeured to the airport.

They could have arranged for Angelina to arrive separately.

Sammi is going to navigate.  Of course she is, she signed up for it when she signed the contacts to come back to the show.

Snookie said more than once that they should give Ron a second chance, as they did with Mike.  I don’t recall the first season.  Didn’t seem to take long for them to accept that Mike had changed.  First, there was no drama that he’d be with them all the time.  It was only a question of whether it was going to be the same dynamic, with them all snarking on him given his past.  They joked that he was the Incarceration.  But he won them over, showed that he had changed.

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snarts

snarts

Mike was already sober when they started filming Family Vacation. He's been sober since 2015 and the show came back in 2018.  While we watched the legal ramifications of his issues play out on the show, personally, he was already in a good place and the roomies could see he was a changed man.

Contrast that Ron whose issues really began in 2018, right when the show started filming (although one could certainly argue he's had issues for much longer). He was arrested in 2019 for assaulting his baby mama, then again in 2021 for assaulting his new girlfriend. Not to mention his substance abuse issues that may or may not still be ongoing.

I'm not saying Ron doesn't deserve another chance from the roomies but he really hasn't addressed his issues head-on like Mike did. To me, it's apparent watching the show, that Mike's a good guy at heart and acted like an asshole due to the drugs/alcohol. Whereas, not clear yet whether Ron's an angry abusive asshole even when sober. 

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aghst

aghst

Snookie started online and the. Went brick and mortar?  So any level of TV fame and you can make money from peddling tacky junk, like Kristin Cavalieri trying to get her name out there.

Vinny wants to refrain from porn in case he meets his “gal” soon.

Pauly is gossiping to the AC repair man.  Does he not talk to Nikki any more?  And a neck pillow?  He’s flying commercial?  He’s not flying first class?

Guido and country music culture would seem to be a bad fit.  Why would people going to Nashville buy JS paraphernalia.

But this whole QVC and sales of reality show merchandise are baffling.  Anyone regularly on TV can get millions of followers and use that to hawk crap.  Like Craig from Southern Charm with the dumb pillows.

The appetite for kitschy Americana is immense.  Speaking of kitsch, they think the jacket Mike was wearing with the tassels hanging from the sleeves was stylish?

Maybe guido and country western does mix.

They go to an old movie theater whose name is spelled like one of the senators from Arizona, not the former astronaut guy, the other one.  Semi-literacy is cool!

Deena and Nicole should get higher salaries than the rest because they’re willing to get loaded and give them more footage of drunken antics than the rest of them.

Sammi cutting Vinny down to size was good.

So much buildup for the arrivals.  What made JS work was how spontaneous the cast was, so that it came across as unscripted compared to other reality shows.

 

 

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RealHousewife

RealHousewife

2 hours ago, JenLily said:

This was an utter waste of an episode. Just an hour-long commercial for Uncommon James, Daniel Diamond and Snooki's shop. If you're going to force Sammi (and your viewers) to deal with Ronnie, just bring him on the show and get on with it already.

Seriously, how long are they going to tease Ron showing up?

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TattleTeeny

TattleTeeny

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On 3/29/2024 at 10:52 PM, aghst said:

Guido and country music culture would seem to be a bad fit.  Why would people going to Nashville buy JS paraphernalia.

 

I don't know anything about it, but I feel like people in Nashville (and wherever else that isn't NJ) might appreciate JS merch more than people who actually live here?

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Blondie

Blondie

2 hours ago, Artsda said:

All that build up for that? I thought they'd talk but I don't blame Sam for not wanting that.  The abuse we saw, plus didn't see isn't going to go away. 

Still Angelina being psycho to watch.  

She's like a volcano.   She'll erupt.   The nasty little  comments she makes are idiotic.  The guys are on to her now.   I  think  Mike is the only one who has the nerve to discuss it with her.   I hope Ronnie does though.   He already has her number.

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aghst

aghst

8 hours ago, Artsda said:

All that build up for that? I thought they'd talk but I don't blame Sam for not wanting that.  The abuse we saw, plus didn't see isn't going to go away. 

Still Angelina being psycho to watch.  

Mike observed that Sam being silent and not looking at him indicates there's some emotions there.  Did he say hate, love, indifference?

I can see the first two but not indifference.

That's what Sam is trying to project, that she's moved on, she's in a good place in her life.

But is it denial or repressing something.

Fact that Vinny mentioned the note and that ticked her off suggests something is going on.

I don't think she still has feelings for Ron but her trying to play it off like she has no emotions for him may be denial too.

She thought she was ready for it, that she could coexist with him within the big group.  But it's not so easy if she shuts down almost completely while he's around.

Maybe she'll argue with Angelina so she doesn't have to think about it, though all the roomies are poking, saying "awkward" every few minutes.

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thesupremediva1

thesupremediva1

Angelina's delusion is strong.

"Sam's Back" was a year-long campaign because Sam needs to make a name for herself. Angelina herself singlehandedly brought Sam into the house. Sure Jan.

I honestly can't believe the gall of her to say that SHE MADE SAM THE MONEY THAT BOUGHT HER A HOUSE. What an absolute twit. She's embarrassing herself, not Sam.

She must be paid to act this way and keep drama rolling, because the show would be canceled otherwise. Sam gave ZERO to the Ron encounter drama that they were hoping for. Without Vinny hamfistedly working overtime to make it awkward for cameras, it wouldn't even have been worth a teaser.

Big ol' nothingburger of a trip.

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aghst

aghst

They stretched out a spicy chicken eating contest over two episodes.

Obviously they are struggling to have something interesting happen.

They did an abbreviated GTL but they can't keep going to the well on that too much.  The guys are all in their mid 30s, most of them with parental duties and all rich so they can afford other types of diversions.

It was a nice gimmick in the OG show but they're reaching deep to resurrect pieces of guido lore.

So it's not surprising that they are encouraging this "feud."  Sammi doesn't seem to have the heart to act like a 20-something guidette, wagging her fingers in another guidette's face, swinging wildly at them.

She said a few episodes ago, "stop it, I'm a 36-year old woman" like she can't be acting like a kid any more.

Angelina knows that the only kind of personality she can bring to this is the parody of her resentful young self.

Producers like it because look at the footage they feature the most on this show now, always Angelina's beef of the moment.

Ratings must be good enough for them to keep featuring the same kind of drama over and over again.

Also good enough to give all of them except Pauly a very good upper middle class or better lifestyle.

But Pauly probably gets more bookings because of the show.  Or else he makes so much from his gigs that he wouldn't have to bother to keep doing the show.

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snarts

snarts

I enjoy when they show glimpses of their every day lives and travel together as a group to random places like the cornhole tournament or the Poconos. When it's good, the show's like catching up with old friends.

I don't enjoy the contrived drama, the awkward pranks and nearly everything about Angelina. Vinny also gets on my nerves. At heart, he's just not a nice person and his moodiness brings down the group vibe. 

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Artsda

Artsda

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10 hours ago, aghst said:

But Pauly probably gets more bookings because of the show.  Or else he makes so much from his gigs that he wouldn't have to bother to keep doing the show.

I don't think he needs the show, that's why he's barely around or shows up for one day and leaves for a gig. He has a contract residency with  MGM, Marquis, part of Tao at multiple places.

I think they need him. 

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Blondie

Blondie

First of all,   why did Angela have the need to DM a bunch of the players?  (She's  supposed to be  engaged)  you  don't contact  random men like that unless you are  desperate for attention.   

Then she should have apologized to his wife.   But she didn't care cause she never admits to doing anything wrong.   

Which brings me to  her reaction to the  tik tok video.   Had she an ounce of humor, self realization that she screwed up, and pulled that stick out of her backside she would have gotten a  kick out of it.  But nooooo.    She runs her foul mouth, blows it out proportion and  once again  goes into  fight mode.  After all  she's a victim and the  star of the show.  

Nothing  nice and  supporting EVER comes out of her trash mouth.   Yet everyone is  supposed to be  supportive of her.   

She always has to bring the  drama.   Grow up already. And if she can't she needs to leave.

 

I can't wait to see Mike blow up next week.   

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thesupremediva1

thesupremediva1

47 minutes ago, Blondie said:

First of all,   why did Angela have the need to DM a bunch of the players?  (She's  supposed to be  engaged)  you  don't contact  random men like that unless you are  desperate for attention.   

Then she should have apologized to his wife.   But she didn't care cause she never admits to doing anything wrong.   

Which brings me to  her reaction to the  tik tok video.   Had she an ounce of humor, self realization that she screwed up, and pulled that stick out of her backside she would have gotten a  kick out of it.  But nooooo.    She runs her foul mouth, blows it out proportion and  once again  goes into  fight mode.  After all  she's a victim and the  star of the show.  

Nothing  nice and  supporting EVER comes out of her trash mouth.   Yet everyone is  supposed to be  supportive of her.   

She always has to bring the  drama.   Grow up already. And if she can't she needs to leave.

 

I can't wait to see Mike blow up next week.   

She’s either truly delusional or the best producer plant of all time. 
 

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Artsda

Artsda

Surprised Mike is so angry next week. He hasn't gotten like that in a long time. 

After all Angelina has done, the ex husband talking to and wanting a baby with her, the ex she treated him on Obret or what ever his name is,  DMing married men.  Plus her calling the cops on him and all badly she's spoken about 2.0 he's still around why?  Bringing him on vacation. 

Angelina has major problems and Sam speaks like she got a lot of therapy and doesn't tolerate her behaviour. 

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aghst

aghst

Sam is trying to stir something herself, deliberately leaving an open chair next to her so that Angelina would have to sit next to her.

And participating in that TikTok.

But again, this is all engineered.  They wanted Angelina to have beef with Sammi.

Used to be Angelina vs. Jenni and I guess Jenni wore down.

What about the water throwing at Nikki, who hasn't been on the show since?

They decided Angelina would be the motor for the drama because Ron flamed out getting into the crazy domestic situation with his ex.

Snookie was off the show for a season or most of a season so she probably didn't want the aggravation either and while she still gets drunk, she's not going to do much more than that.

They must have decided that Angelina and Sam are the newest cast members so they have to pay their dues.

 

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snarts

snarts

11 hours ago, SilverLake0315 said:

Is Angelina on drugs? She is not well. She looks ill. She acts unhinged. I wish she’d leave. I’m so over her bullshit. 

100% Her skin looks so sallow, especially in the hallway scene. Although with so much makeup foundation caked on, it's hard to tell what she actually looks like.

And, just about the time I think she's playing her role on the show, she'll say something that makes me think she truly believes some of the crap she's spewing. Nice job editors showing her her repeatedly call Sammi unappreciative while swearing on the life her poor dog that she never said it.

Regardless, the act is tiresome. Please, please, please dump her from the show so we can actually watch the rest of them have some fun. 

Where was Snooki?

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Artsda

Artsda

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She needs to be dumped I agree.  She's all over the place psycho going back to the charcuterie party? She's latched onto Sam as her new Jenni.  Attacking and deflection, but nothing on her ever. Her sliding into married men DM isn't the issue. Lol. 

She got so crazy over swearing on her dogs life, and the clips proved Sam right.  Does Angelina believe her own lies? 

Nothing is ever on her. Let's just switch her out for Ron at this point.  

Jenni asking 2.0 why he came in there was funny. 

 

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Blondie

Blondie

Once again poor little miss victim lies and denies.  Everyone else is the problem.   I'm beginning to wonder if she paid 2.0 just so everyone thinks she is wanted and loved and desirable.   Sorry  Angela,  it's not working.   

Mike still  cracks me up.  The faces Lauren makes when he talks about his plans... it's like "oh boy, here we go again ".  

Sammi is poking the bear with Angela  but the stick is very  sharp and she's smart enough to know  just where to stick it.    

I know a lot of people think  Angela is always bullied by the girls, and maybe she is, however she doesn't know boundaries and is the one who starts it.  No self awareness,  and her constant need for backup speaks volumes.   She is so emotionally unstable. I wish she would  leave and get her head on straight.   

She is not the star, fan favorite that she thinks she is.  

 

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aghst

aghst

I don't think the producers would give Angelina so much air time if her drama wasn't exactly what they wanted.

Yeah Snookie and Vinny were missing mostly on the first day at least, though it looks like Snookie isn't coming to this event.

But they didn't have to air any of the first day.  They made a choice.

I would think it's all serious but Angelina pulled something from 7 months ago, tried to blame Mike and then blamed Sammi for believing Mike.

Than the almost-fight.  Mike is saying in his TH that he thought they were really going to fight.  But the way they cut it, Mike probably said something to defuse the situation but they didn't show that and then when they grappled, there was on tension so the guys were both laughing.

They're not kids in their 20s, having something to prove.  I doubt even back in the day, Mike looked for a lot of fights.  And 2.0 is a cop or was?  Not that cops won't fight but he probably wouldn't do it on camera.

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Blondie

Blondie

So Angela is a  liar on top of everything else.   What a gem.  GET HELP and not from a  TV Dr.

She's the one who causes drama  every trip.   But notice  she doesn't go after Pauley  ever since he broke a door down to go after her for  her treatment of Nikki.  

I feel  sorry for her poor  dog being  left in a strange room on these trips.   Poor baby sh#ts on the floor and has pee pads for company.  Does he ever get to go for a walk?  I'm with  Mike thinking the state of the room was gross.   I've  had a lot of dogs and never forced them to  live In those conditions.   Hire a reputable dog  sitter. 

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aghst

aghst

We can see that drama is the top priority.

Deena and others were complaining that they were stuck in the hotel room while they waited for Angelina and Sammi to have their convo, which obviously the producers wanted to occur.

They were allowed to go downstairs and have lunch and  both boyfriends were given takeaway food to take up to them.

But the whole cast were not going to be allowed to go out and do something else, other than to wait for the two cast members to have their little confrontation.

This is what happened in San Diego last season.  They were stuck in that hotel for hours before they could do something else.

Because they want the rest of the cast to react and take sides and stuff, not just leave it to the two of them to sort out on their own.

That may be why some of the cast like Vinnie, Ronnie and Snooki are making a late appearance, to avoid a lot of the BS.

I don't know why Sammi doesn't shut down the "I brought you back" BS.  No doubt she negotiated with the producers not just for the money she'd be paid but what the producers expected her to do as well as any requests she may have had.

Angelina isn't going to be involved in the individual negotiations of other cast to appear on the show.

Maybe she was told not to go there, too much behind the scenes business to put on camera.

 

These little individual beefs are exhausting but alternatives are the cast getting drunk -- more Drehn or whatever Snooki's drunken persona is called.

Or having the cast do some physical activity that's kind of Jackass-light.  But the cast may be wary of doing things in which there's injury risk, like last season, some of them declined to go down the slope in these funny looking sledges.

 

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Blondie

Blondie

Ha ha.  Not a fan of the goats.  They are cute ... from a distance.   The pee and poop are gross.  They also stink.

The drama queen was so mean and rude to 2.0.  Her efforts to make him look like the one holding everyone else up is just another lie.  So disrespectful.   She must be  paying  him to be her fiance.   Who in his  right mind would stay otherwise. 

Pot stirrer Mike finally kept his nose out of it.  His talk with Angela at the end was heartwarming.   

Vinny is quickly becoming  irrelevant.   

Deena seemed so annoying and bored.  Stop complaining and do something about it.   She's  turned into a  control freak.   Jenni and  Zack are so comfortable with each other.   He just goes with the flow.  

It seemed like Pauley was off his  game a bit.  

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aghst

aghst

I've heard of goat yoga, so it's them jumping on people doing yoga positions and going under them?

Suppose to be spiritual or something?  Jenni's mood really lifted when she saw them.

I don't think the women were fooled about the cowboy movie thing.  Maybe they didn't know that it would be a gender-reveal.

They must make so much money that they see Angelina as money bags, though 2.0 must be getting some fair compensation for appearing on the show.

But he's a cop so how does he get enough time off to shoot?  Or did he quit his job because he thought Angelina was going to be sugar mama?

So outside the Tucson club, a crowd.  Is it for real or hired?  They weren't that big a crowd it seemed.  I mean it's a TV show so it's going to draw some number of people but can they relate?  The cast is old and do teens watch MTV?

They're going to do Reunion in 2 parts next week just off a couple of weekend trips for this "season."

But looks like they've already filmed the next "season" and it's going to be NYC.

The whole convo between Sammi and Justin about getting married, having children is obviously not spontaneous.  Unless they've only been together for a couple of months, they would have talked about this stuff long time ago.

Didn't Sammi say they bought a home together?  Yeah they are probably already engaged but looks like they're going to play it out on the "next season," probably airing in a couple of months at most.

 They certainly produce dozens, maybe hundreds of hours of programming for MTV now.  Seems like this show is on like 6 months out of the year if not more.

So they can have a big cast and they can all buy McMansions and lease German SUVs.

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aghst

aghst

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Her making them wait could also be a scripted thing.

Why aren't they allowed to leave her behind and let her catch up to them at the restaurant?

Because they wanted to film them waiting, getting pissed and her in her room doing whatever.

It's just like when they're having these loud arguments and the rest of them have to wait, even if they're not in the same room.

They're held captive until the confrontation is filmed and it peters out -- or until the producers decide it's been long enough.

 

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JenLily

JenLily

I don't believe for a second that they went out to dinner as late as the show wants us to think they did. There were lots of other diners in the background and I doubt that so many people would be out eating dinner at 11pm, even if they're on vacation. It's Tucson, not Vegas. I think they could've gotten their point across about Angelina being inconsiderate without being so over-the-top dramatic about it.

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aghst

aghst

1 hour ago, Blondie said:

I feel like everyone already (including the viewers) knows how inconsiderate,  erratic, self centered, jealous and unstable Angela is.  

But how  much of it is self-conscious branding?

She may be combative but if her antics really put off the others and they expressed disapproval, it would take a certain type of personality to ignore that and keep doing the things that people express disapproval of.

She's clearly playing for the cameras in some of the scenes, looking directly at the camera and saying something defiant, over and over again.

Like the lines about getting Sammi her home and how she brought Sammi back to the show and she can get her off the show, repeating it more than once is a performance, probably something the producers approved of or encouraged.

Sure they made a scene like she texted Sammi and she responded and that is how she got back on the show.

No, that's not how it went down.  No doubt there were negotiations and contracts, involving 6-figure pay packages and what she was expected to do, which included seeing Ronnie repeatedly and playing her part in the drama of seeing him again.

No doubt the producers spelled out other expectations to Sammi, like she'd get into little feuds with other cast members.  Like she and Sammi sitting down to hash it out while the others waited for them at the hotel, I doubt Sammi wanted to do those scenes but she knows it goes with the territory of being on the show.

In fact Angelina may not necessarily be down for some of the drama either but it keeps her in McMansions and German SUVs.

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Artsda

Artsda

She seems really down for the drama based on reunion show.  I think she has serious personal mental problems and the show isn't what she needs. She sat there with a bitch face for most of it. 

Sam seems over her as much as Jenni.  Jenni told her they weren't friends in Orlando after everything she attacked her for and Sammi now has done the same thing. 

 

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snarts

snarts

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Angelina is one of those toxic people who will always have drama going on in their lives. While I'm sympathetic to the father situation, she had these types of issues going on long before finding him. 

What I really can't understand is why the producers think we want to continually watch her antics. Or maybe some do. I know I watch in spite of it, longing for the day she's no longer on the show.

Did they even mention why Pauly D & Ron were missing from the reunion?

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aghst

aghst

If they just have chill "vacations" where everyone gets along and it's them showing each other photos of their children, it could be "boring."

Certainly wouldn't be "on brand" for JS.

It doesn't seem like producers are willing to gamble and try that.

Looks like next "season" is about Snooki looking for her real parents since she was adopted.

So they will always have some kind of plot.

I guess Nikki will come back so there could be drama between her and Angelina again.

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