Sunrain October 12 Share October 12 12 hours ago, Rodney said: Not surprising. Now we know that Xander gets it from both parents, not just from Victor. Not necessarily. Steve grew up with an extremely abusive father and submissive mother. Jack was raised by the power-hungry and misogynistic Harper Devereux and the disdainful socialite Angelica. Both were able to change for better despite their family background and things they had done in the past. By no means couldn’t Xander have undergone similar path. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8479265
brisbydog October 12 Share October 12 Except Jo was a decent person (although Steve was messed up until he met Kayla, then reunited with Jo) and Angelica was truly loving to Jack his entire childhood and adult life. Xander had Titus until he was effectively abandoned as a teen. That's a bad time to be without a rudder. Worse, Victor stepped in. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8479290
brisbydog October 12 Share October 12 I think Xander was craving a maternal influence his whole life after being abandoned, which is why he changed his behaviour right after connecting with Maggie 1 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8479295
brisbydog October 14 Share October 14 (edited) Monday, October 21, 2024 Chad is stunned when “Abigail” is revealed to be a fraud. Kristen makes a new offer to Xander. Marlena and Kayla catch up regarding Kristen’s feelings for Brady. Tuesday, October 22, 2024 Justin and Alex discuss Alex’s new job and Stephanie. Nancy thinks her daughter Joy is perfect for Body & Soul Jada advises Stephanie about her relationship with Alex Wednesday, October 23, 2024 Johnny lies to Chanel. Marlena senses something is wrong with Johnny. Leo informs Stephanie and Paulina about on set sex at Body & Soul. Thursday, October 24, 2024 Johnny is mortified when he learns the truth about Chanel and Alex. Leo remarks to Bonnie that Hattie’s curse on Body & Soul has come true Paulina blames Abe for the rift between Johnny and Chanel Friday, October 25, 2024 Gabi reconsiders her pending divorce from Stefan. EJ tries to strongarm Fiona. Justin and Sarah attempt to convince Xander not to trade Titan to Kristen Edited October 14 by brisbydog 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8480847
Rodney October 14 Share October 14 At least it sounds like Johnny won't be having this misunderstanding about Chanel for too long. But . . . it sounds like finding out the truth, from the wording of the Abe/Paulina spoiler, just makes things worse with him and Chanel, not better. Faux Abigail is finally found out. About time. I hope that Billy kills those scenes. I am interested in seeing how Fiona interacts with E.J. Just as Kristen had started acting somewhat more human, she pulls this? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8480860
brisbydog October 14 Share October 14 The words "Body" and "Soul" appear far too many times next week, especially in conjunction with each other. I think I will be just watching Monday and Friday. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8480892
DisneyBoy October 15 Share October 15 9 hours ago, brisbydog said: Nancy thinks her daughter Joy is perfect for Body & Soul Noooooooooo! Call child protective services! 9 hours ago, brisbydog said: Justin and Sarah attempt to convince Xander not to trade Titan to Kristen THAT is her price?? Wowsers. Ambitious! 2 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8481246
CanaryFan98 October 15 Share October 15 Of all the reasons to bring back Joy this was their reason? Not that she had a sister in town for months or her dad coming out of the closet and leaving their mother for Leo's rancid ass. 3 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8481634
brisbydog October 17 Share October 17 Big spoiler here: https://www.tvinsider.com/1157512/days-of-our-lives-abigail-deveraux-identity-cat-green-catherina-daughter-konstantin/ 1 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8483409
DisneyBoy October 18 Share October 18 Interesting. But very sad for obvious reasons. Wonder how they'll try to make it work. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8483749
Frozendiva October 18 Share October 18 On 10/15/2024 at 1:18 AM, DisneyBoy said: Noooooooooo! Call child protective services! THAT is her price?? Wowsers. Ambitious! Xander should be demanding a huge discount. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8484032
brisbydog October 18 Share October 18 1 2 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8484349
CanaryFan98 October 18 Share October 18 Joy might be interesting. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8484351
4evaQuez October 19 Share October 19 (edited) I'm already liking Joy. Since Chloe is my favorite character, I'm biased. I hope the show writes her well. I find it confusing that Bonnie is talking about Joy with Kate and Abe. Granted Kate and Chloe have an extensive history, and I guess Bonnie and Chloe have history, too. It's still an odd assortment of characters. I hope Parker will be introduced, too. Edited October 19 by 4evaQuez 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8484373
CanaryFan98 October 19 Share October 19 15 hours ago, 4evaQuez said: I'm already liking Joy. Since Chloe is my favorite character, I'm biased. I hope the show writes her well. I find it confusing that Bonnie is talking about Joy with Kate and Abe. Granted Kate and Chloe have an extensive history, and I guess Bonnie and Chloe have history, too. It's still an odd assortment of characters. I hope Parker will be introduced, too. Bonnie knew Chloe during the Ghoul Girl days as Mimi and Chloe hated each other at the time. That part made sense to me. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8484982
4evaQuez October 19 Share October 19 46 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said: Bonnie knew Chloe during the Ghoul Girl days as Mimi and Chloe hated each other at the time. That part made sense to me. I know. I noted that Chloe and Bonnie have history, too. I was actually thinking of their more recent history with the Bonnie/Lucas baby lie. I just think Kate/Bonnie/Abe are a weird assortment of characters to discuss Joy. Then I remembered that this is probably because of Body and Soul. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8485014
brisbydog October 19 Share October 19 Phillip is back Friday just in time to contest the will and stop Xander from giving away Titan (played by John-Paul Lavoisier, the guy who played him last year). I will be glad to see him in this instance. I hope Brady comes up with another way to get the serum away from his awful ex. Proffering his body to her should work. 5 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8485240
CanaryFan98 October 19 Share October 19 6 hours ago, 4evaQuez said: I know. I noted that Chloe and Bonnie have history, too. I was actually thinking of their more recent history with the Bonnie/Lucas baby lie. I just think Kate/Bonnie/Abe are a weird assortment of characters to discuss Joy. Then I remembered that this is probably because of Body and Soul. Yes that's a good point Kate should definitely hate her for that but this show tries to whitewash Bonnie so at the same time I'm not surprised they conveniently ignore it. 1 minute ago, brisbydog said: Phillip is back Friday just in time to contest the will and stop Xander from giving away Titan (played by John-Paul Lavoisier, the guy who played him last year). I will be glad to see him in this instance. I hope Brady comes up with another way to get the serum away from his awful ex. Proffering his body to her should work. Does Phillip know Xander is his brother? I'm sure it was probably off screen if so(they tend to have the good stuff happen offscreen) 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8485242
brisbydog October 19 Share October 19 2 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said: Yes that's a good point Kate should definitely hate her for that but this show tries to whitewash Bonnie so at the same time I'm not surprised they conveniently ignore it. Does Phillip know Xander is his brother? I'm sure it was probably off screen if so(they tend to have the good stuff happen offscreen) It honestly has not been that long in Salem time, he may well have just found out. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8485244
Rodney October 20 Share October 20 20 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said: Yes that's a good point Kate should definitely hate her for that but this show tries to whitewash Bonnie so at the same time I'm not surprised they conveniently ignore it. Not in this case. Kate does still hate Bonnie for that. She's only civil to her because she's working for her on Body and Soul. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8485768
brisbydog October 22 Share October 22 https://soaps.sheknows.com/days-of-our-lives/comings-and-goings/749321/john-paul-lavoisier-philip-return/ 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8487357
Retired at last October 22 Share October 22 I know that a lot of people really like the returning of former characters, but to me, it just crowds the stories since most of them are just returning for a short time. If Philip's return is just to get Kristen to stop trying to take Titan, fine. But, we don't need new wasted stories - UNLESS they get rid of the stupid soap opera nonsense. In that case, I guess I would rather see useless and stupid stories with people we already know. So, Salem is now the new LA/NY in terms of casting for acting roles? And, I know people have been asking about Joy for a long time, but it doesn't sound like she will be a nice person. We already have teens/young 20s silly teens with Holly and Sophia. So, now we have Joy. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8487479
4evaQuez October 22 Share October 22 2 hours ago, Retired at last said: So, Salem is now the new LA/NY in terms of casting for acting roles? And, I know people have been asking about Joy for a long time, but it doesn't sound like she will be a nice person. We already have teens/young 20s silly teens with Holly and Sophia. So, now we have Joy. I'm okay with Joy not being a nice person. Personally, I think we have too many nice people on canvas, especially in the Chanel/Johnny/JJ/Alex category. (I don't know if I should include Stephanie here since she's in her 30s, but she is heavily connected to Alex. Stephanie and Chloe had a somewhat rocky history, so it could be a foundation for a Joy vs. Stephanie feud). I think Joy is needed to shake up the tedium of the set that should be anchoring stories. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8487587
brisbydog October 22 Share October 22 (edited) Monday, October 28, 2024 Philip messes up Xander’s plans Vivian stops Stefan from seeing Gabi Rafe and Gabi’s cousin, Javi, comes to Salem. Kristen tries to make inroads with Brady. Fiona faces the wrath of Sarah Tuesday, October 29, 2024 Chad fills Julie in what happened in Paris Cat and Mark worry about Clyde’s wrath. Steve shares information with Marlena about Cat and Mark’s connection to Clyde. Holly forgives Eric Wednesday, October 30, 2024 Brady and Ava bond Kayla and Roman catch up about the Chad and “Abigail” fallout. Chad gets tough with Cat. Sophia and Tate admit they have feelings for each other. Maggie encourages Holly to track down Tate Thursday, October 31, 2024 Leo has a Halloween-ish nightmare Alex and Stephanie navigate the fallout from their on-set encounter. Johnny pleads with Chanel for forgiveness Kate gives Joy a part on Body and Soul Friday, November 1, 2024 Xander makes Kristen a deadly offer Johnny asks Joy to keep a secret Kate encourages Chanel to give Johnny a second chance. Vivian schemes with Philip. Holly waits for Tate's response Edited October 23 by brisbydog 1 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8487645
Rodney October 22 Share October 22 Nice to see Holly getting over herself. I hope that Johnny and Joy's secret isn't what I think it is. Ooh, nice! Glad to read that Vivian's coming back, too! And Louise's Vivian, no less! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8487654
CanaryFan98 October 22 Share October 22 Vivian's return makes me kind of sad she will never have any more scenes with John again. Joy should be a schemer I mean she got it honestly with Craig/Nancy as her parents. I mean when they first came to town they were schemers over that Chief of Staff job at University Hospital. 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8487732
salvame October 23 Share October 23 On 10/14/2024 at 6:04 PM, Rodney said: At least it sounds like Johnny won't be having this misunderstanding about Chanel for too long. But . . . it sounds like finding out the truth, from the wording of the Abe/Paulina spoiler, just makes things worse with him and Chanel, not better. This may just be Paulina putting Abe on blast for Chanel saying Johnny is 'working' so many hours 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8487971
methodwriter85 October 24 Share October 24 On 10/22/2024 at 3:43 PM, 4evaQuez said: I'm okay with Joy not being a nice person. Personally, I think we have too many nice people on canvas, especially in the Chanel/Johnny/JJ/Alex category. (I don't know if I should include Stephanie here since she's in her 30s, but she is heavily connected to Alex. Stephanie and Chloe had a somewhat rocky history, so it could be a foundation for a Joy vs. Stephanie feud). I think Joy is needed to shake up the tedium of the set that should be anchoring stories. Agreed. With Nancy and Craig as her parents, I really wouldn't expect a sweet ingenue. (Chloe wasn't a bitch but I wouldn't have classified her as sweet, either.) The show desperately needs schemers and at least one good bad boy. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8489024
brisbydog October 24 Share October 24 7 hours ago, methodwriter85 said: Agreed. With Nancy and Craig as her parents, I really wouldn't expect a sweet ingenue. (Chloe wasn't a bitch but I wouldn't have classified her as sweet, either.) The show desperately needs schemers and at least one good bad boy. I think Noah Reed is coming soon, to tempt Holly away from sweet Tate. 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8489186
DisneyBoy October 25 Share October 25 On 10/22/2024 at 5:01 PM, brisbydog said: Vivian stops Stefan from seeing Gabi The Queen returns?!? Awesome. On 10/22/2024 at 5:01 PM, brisbydog said: Holly forgives Eric Fast but....okay. I mean, I wouldn't have minded them being estranged for 6 months. For once it would make sense. On 10/22/2024 at 5:01 PM, brisbydog said: Leo has a Halloween-ish nightmare 🙄How did I know this would happen? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8489841
methodwriter85 October 25 Share October 25 17 hours ago, brisbydog said: I think Noah Reed is coming soon, to tempt Holly away from sweet Tate. I am really trying to find the casting for this but I'm coming up empty. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8489853
CanaryFan98 October 25 Share October 25 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8489941
Rodney October 26 Share October 26 Per a preview for next week, Stefan does get an actual exit, but it's a pretty lame one. He's kidnapped by Vivian and her henchmen and shipped off to parts unknown. He's seen being stuffed into the trunk of a car, bound and gagged. Tate and Sophia, meanwhile, are poised to have sex, and Holly's about to walk in on them doing it. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8490978
brisbydog October 26 Share October 26 10 hours ago, Rodney said: Per a preview for next week, Stefan does get an actual exit, but it's a pretty lame one. He's kidnapped by Vivian and her henchmen and shipped off to parts unknown. He's seen being stuffed into the trunk of a car, bound and gagged. Tate and Sophia, meanwhile, are poised to have sex, and Holly's about to walk in on them doing it. Not henchmen... the divine Ivan! But yes lame af 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8491146
Rodney October 26 Share October 26 30 minutes ago, brisbydog said: Not henchmen... the divine Ivan! I didn't even recognize Ivan G'Vera! I thought that he had retired from acting! Very surprised that they managed to get him for this one episode! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8491154
CanaryFan98 October 26 Share October 26 12 hours ago, Rodney said: Per a preview for next week, Stefan does get an actual exit, but it's a pretty lame one. He's kidnapped by Vivian and her henchmen and shipped off to parts unknown. He's seen being stuffed into the trunk of a car, bound and gagged. Tate and Sophia, meanwhile, are poised to have sex, and Holly's about to walk in on them doing it. That henchman that put Stefan in a trunk was Ivan(and while I find it hard to believe he could do it at his age I appreciate the nod to history of him always being a right hand man to Madame). 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8491218
CanaryFan98 October 26 Share October 26 2 hours ago, Rodney said: I didn't even recognize Ivan G'Vera! I thought that he had retired from acting! Very surprised that they managed to get him for this one episode! He was around for when Vivian kidnapped Carver and Jules a few years back but that was when Linda Dano played Vivian. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8491222
DisneyBoy October 27 Share October 27 I'm just thrilled to see him and Louise as Vivian again. If they're willing to do the show, as they seem to be, I wish TIIC would see fit to give them something fun to do, instead of just using them to facilitate something with a less interesting character (often Stefan, but also Jake, Lani, etc). It's also hugely sad that after decades of serving her - and adoring her - Ivan still hasn't ever been her lover, has he? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8491649
CanaryFan98 October 28 Share October 28 (edited) 18 hours ago, DisneyBoy said: I'm just thrilled to see him and Louise as Vivian again. If they're willing to do the show, as they seem to be, I wish TIIC would see fit to give them something fun to do, instead of just using them to facilitate something with a less interesting character (often Stefan, but also Jake, Lani, etc). It's also hugely sad that after decades of serving her - and adoring her - Ivan still hasn't ever been her lover, has he? Nope but I think he's just her companion and not much else. Although I could've sworn at one point Ivan/Celeste were almost a thing at one point. Or maybe that was wishful thinking on my part. Edited October 28 by CanaryFan98 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8492098
oceanblue October 28 Share October 28 Or wishful thinking on Ivan's part. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8492205
CanaryFan98 October 28 Share October 28 23 hours ago, oceanblue said: Or wishful thinking on Ivan's part. I don't know if Ivan was ever interested in Celeste but I remember liking their scenes because they really have so much in common. Except Celeste shared a child with Stefano and Ivan got nothing out of Vivian. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8493080
brisbydog October 28 Share October 28 (edited) Monday, November 4, 2024 Philip goads Xander Vivian offers to cut Kate in on the Kiriakis fortune Kate continues to cause a ripple effect by keeping Philip away from Vivian. Holly wants to get back together with Tate Tuesday, November 5, 2024 Sophia tries to share big news with Holly Rafe and Javi come to terms over a family heirloom. Wednesday, November 6, 2024 Clyde asks Chad for a mysterious favor Jada has a confrontation with Vivian. EJ tries to console Gabi over Stefan Thursday, November 7, 2024 Rafe and Jada make an announcement to the family Johnny tries to bury his guilt while with Chanel. Stephanie and Alex make a decision about their relationship Friday, November 8, 2024 HAPPY 59TH ANNIVERSARY DAYS! Sarah tries to lift Maggie’s spirits Brady confronts Kristen about her treachery Belle and Paul return to Salem for Marlena and John’s wedding anniversary. Julie takes care of Doug. Edited October 28 by brisbydog 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8493091
DisneyBoy October 29 Share October 29 2 hours ago, brisbydog said: Belle and Paul return to Salem for Marlena and John’s wedding anniversary. Oooooooof. 😬 2 hours ago, brisbydog said: Julie takes care of Doug. !! Double oooooof. 3 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8493330
CanaryFan98 October 29 Share October 29 To be fair when this was taped Bill already passed in RL. I see they’re setting up Doug’s death like they did with Alice after Frances passed. Where vets return and reminisce while Doug is in the other room. I bet next Spring it’s something similar with John. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8493397
DisneyBoy October 29 Share October 29 Poor Susan. To lose your husband and then have to pretend like he's in the next room? It's kinda ghoulish. 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8493417
oceanblue October 29 Share October 29 Agreed. But to act out his character's death quickly would be even tougher. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8493599
DisneyBoy October 29 Share October 29 I guess? I mean, as a viewer, I suppose I prefer a more natural build-up, but if they just asked her to turn around and refer to Doug getting ill mere days after burying her real husband? That's...pretty awful. People do die of heart attacks suddenly, or other things that cannot be foreseen. I fully expected Victor to just go in his sleep. Saying he died in a plane crash was a bit extra, especially since it was clear John was winding down these last few years. How did Alice die again? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8493827
Rodney October 29 Share October 29 (edited) 29 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said: How did Alice die again? Simple old age. They actually had hers happen slowly, over a period of weeks. It was actually a more realistic depiction on how death comes on. Edited October 29 by Rodney 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8493849
Soapy Goddess October 30 Share October 30 11 hours ago, DisneyBoy said: I fully expected Victor to just go in his sleep. Saying he died in a plane crash was a bit extra, especially since it was clear John was winding down these last few years. I can understand about Julie & Doug because Susan & Bill were real life partners. I'm sure it wasn't easy, but Susan is a good actress. But "extra" for Victor? Soaps are not fairy tales, and people do die in plane crashes. We can't all be lucky enough to simply die in our sleep. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8494325
DisneyBoy October 30 Share October 30 True, but Victor flying around when we didn't see him stand or walk for months...and then murdered in an exploding plane? That's pretty extra. But I suppose being a powerful villain for so many years he needed more than a bout of pneumonia to end his life. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/455/#findComment-8494512
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