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7 hours ago, BlackMamba said:

The search for Stefano finally comes to a shocking end with Marlena putting herself up as bait and catching Stefano and putting him in jail.

 

LMAO. So the new ending Stefano gets is to be sent to prison? I wonder if he'll die in a cell offscreen in a few months or if we're supposed to believe he's rotting in there indefinitely. 

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4 hours ago, SanDiegoInExile said:

These episodes were taped 6 months ago, well before Joe Mascolo died.  I havent checked this week, but he was still listed in the closing credits a couple weeks ago, in his regular slot as a regular cast member.

Drew Donovan was a featured character with Eve 1.0, Calliope Jones, and Stefano back in the late 1980s.  He was mostly a bad seed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Donovan

There are a few video clips out there, but I don't post the links as they get yanked.......

This Wikipedia is not totally accurate about Drew.  The following is an accurate depiction of Drew Donovan.

 

Drew was Shane's twin, but very much the younger brother. He acted rather silly and seemed to be a bit of a screw-up, always in Shane's shadow when they were growing up. After Eton, Drew joined the ISA while Shane went to university and then joined. Drew resented that Shane was always better than him, so at some point he secretly went to work for Stefano.

In 1988, Drew appeared at Donovan Manor during Shane and Kim's honeymoon following their vowel renewal. Shane was upset that Drew had come out of some type of hiding (which was why he had never been mentioned before), but he charmed Kim and she invited him to return to Salem. He briefly lived with Shane and Kim, and moved with them to their new house, where he had a basement photography studio and equipment he could use to stay in contact with Stefano using the codename 'Iago." While in Salem, he kidnapped Kayla and Benjy (who nobody at the time knew was Stefano's son), nearly killed Steve in a rigged magic show, and later kidnapped Carrie and Benjy and took them to Stefano's island. During this entire time, Shane knew Stefano was alive, but was forced by the ISA to keep it secret. When Shane and the ISA set up a deal with Victor to capture Stefano, Drew tricked Kim into going to the island where she also was taken captive.

Victor, btw, knew that "Iago" was Shane's brother and, as part of his ISA deal, got Shane to agree that "Iago" would work for him. When Shane realized that it was Drew, he called off the deal with Victor, who promptly told Stefano about Shane's and Steve's plans. Shane managed to defeat Drew and took his place, but that only lasted a short while, so he and Steve also became Stefano's prisoners.
 

While captive, Stefano forced Shane to tell the other prisoners about a secret he had been keeping. After Roman "died" on the island, Shane and the ISA learned that he was alive and was Stefano's prisoner. Drew also appeared to be a prisoner, though he was working with Stefano alongside John (who everyone thought was Roman at the time). Shane revealed that he had a chance to rescue Roman, but freed Drew instead. At some point, it also was revealed that Drew had killed Benjy's mother, something that John thought he had done.  Shane not telling the Brady family that he knew that Roman was alive caused angst between him and the Brady family. I always thought that it was out of character.  Shane was an honest man and it complimented Kim's penchant for lying.  I think the writers' strike at the time altered the writers story about Shane/Drew. 

Eventually, the prisoners escaped. Drew was ordered to kill Shane and Kim. He caught them, held them at gunpoint, and revealed that he joined Stefano to escape from Shane's shadow. At the last minute, he saved them and killed another of Stefano's henchmen, but Drew was also shot. Shane and Kim got him off the island and to a doctor (and eventually to Salem), where he was in a coma and then mysteriously disappeared from the hospital. The last we heard of him, he called Kim's radio show and indicated that he intended to reform and regretted his actions.

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Stefano Spoilers

 

Sonny and Austin show up at the Masquerade (no John, though) and Doc is briefly kidnapped during a midnight blackout. Stefano reveals himself to her and the gang gives chase and arrests him. He is briefly in jail but then vanishes again. His brief detainment is proof of Hope's innocence.

 

...so we do see Joe again, on Feb 9th. That will be nice, and this doesn't sound like the worst wrap-up (depending on how much screentime we get of Joe). No appearances by John kinda stinks and there's still no explanation for who Hope actually killed...but this sounds decent.

It invalidates all his spectral appearances from 2016 but...

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3 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

...so we do see Joe again, on Feb 9th. That will be nice, and this doesn't sound like the worst wrap-up (depending on how much screentime we get of Joe). No appearances by John kinda stinks and there's still no explanation for who Hope actually killed...but this sounds decent.

 

Except for the part where Stefano will have to be killed off again, this time offscreen. So his new death will end up being worse than the last one. And this makes what Hope did even worse since the person she murdered didn't terrorize her and everyone else for decades. 

3 hours ago, LeftPhalange said:

Except for the part where Stefano will have to be killed off again, this time offscreen. So his new death will end up being worse than the last one. And this makes what Hope did even worse since the person she murdered didn't terrorize her and everyone else for decades. 

I admit, I haven't watched closely and missed some eps.  Is the story that Hope shot dead a Stefano look alike?

Because I assumed that Stefano was shot by hope with those fake blood thingies, and then she and Rafe got rid of his body, and afterward he got up and left and had someone replace his live body with another dead one.  Thus making Hope only an attempted murderer rather than murderer.

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That could be what happened but we don't know yet. The body in the grave they never bothered to show us is apparently another guy.

I don't especially care if the explanation works - I'd rather see Joe have some good emotional farewell lines than waste his final scenes being the exposition fairy.

The one big thing I can't buy about this is the idea that Joe/Stefano can walk. He couldn't for several months, it seemed. Him trying to snatch Doc makes me roll my eyes. Kinda classless.

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Week of February 13

Monday February 13:

Hope questions Eric about his feelings for Jennifer.

Tuesday February 14:

Victor learns of Deimos’s actions and tells him he needs to clean it all up quickly.

Wednesday February 15:

Stephanie arrives home to join in the wedding festivities.

Thursday February 16:

Steve and Kayla remarry in front of family and friends.

Friday February 17:

Julie receives devastating news.

Adrienne finds Paul unconscious in the alley and learns startling news about Sonny.

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9 minutes ago, BlackMamba said:

Victor learns of Deimos’s actions and tells him he needs to clean it all up quickly.

 

...that's it? Deimos is running around town putting hits on people, he pulled a gun on Ari's mother and locked her in a closet and all Victor can do is tell him to clean up his mess? I shouldn't be surprised since he aparently got over what Deimos did to Bo and Maggie pretty quickly. 

I would have much rather seen Victor leave town after being exposed as Tate's kidnapper than bow to Almighty Deimos.

What in the hell are they going to do to explain Caroline's absence at the Stayla wedding? It's glaring at this point that she's been AWOL for Theresa's wedding, the Orpheus seige at HER Pub, Theresa's meltdown, Xmas...and now this.

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More on the week February 13

Monday, February 13, 2017


Shane and Steve make a surprising discovery. 

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 
Adrienne, Jennifer, & Anne work together 2 destroy the Orwell device. 

Wednesday, February 15, 2017 
Austin and Carrie reunite with Kate. 

Thursday, February 16, 2016 
Anna confronts Andre. 

Friday, February 17, 2017
Belle drops a bomb that stuns Nicole. 

When Deimos continues to stonewall, mother-bear Adrienne attacks him.

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February 20-24

Monday February 20:


Chloe and Nicole learn who gets custody of Holly. 

Sonny tries to escape from his captor and catches a brutal beating. 

Tuesday February 21:
As Chad and Gabi cling to life and each other. 

Wednesday February 22:
Hattie finally confronts Andre. 
Marlena reunites with Eric at the farm. 

Thursday February 23:
Lani and Theo encourage Abe not to give up on Valerie, who is visited by a surprise guest.

Valerie's son Eli comes to Salem and has a surprising connection in the town. 

Friday February 24:
Brady is thrown by Chloe's news.

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More Feb 20-24

Monday, February 20, 2017


A furious Nicole breaks up with Deimos. 

Tuesday, February 21, 2017
Drew reaches out to Shane for help. 

Wednesday, Feb. 22, 2017
Hope is still fearful Andre will pull something at the last minute to destroy her future. 

Thursday, February 23, 2016 
Chad tells Abigail the truth about what happened while he was kidnapped. 

Friday, February 24, 2017
Valerie tries to keep Eli’s identity a secret during a high-stress situation. 

JJ asks Lani out.

Not feeling JJ/Lani. And in a weird way I almost wish Kate Mansi was still playing Abigail if only to see the shady expressions she would pull out at the sight of Gabby pawing her man.

Think they'll spring for special effects to have Shane and Drew acting opposite each other?

...now I'm imagining a scene with Kristen, Susan, Shane, Drew, Hattie, Marlena, Hope, Gina and Sister Mary Moira. Would we even bother to invite the two Aidens though?

Week of February 27: 

Monday February 27:

Deimos accuses Brady of being in love with Nicole.

Jennifer and Eric share a tender moment.

Tuesday February 28:

Sonny makes a pitch to Victor to make him the successor to Deimos.

Wednesday March 1:

Deimos puts plans in motion to kidnap Holly.

Thursday March 2:

Tension arises between Sonny and Paul.

Friday March 3:

Hope and Rafe learn about big changes at the Salem PD.

More February 27

 


Monday, February 27, 2017
JJ and Lani agree to a date and Gabi overhears. 

Tuesday, February 28, 2017
Kayla delivers unexpected news to Joey and Jade. 

Wed, March 1, 2017
Nicole is furious when Brady gives her an update about Eric. 

Wednesday, March 1, 2017
Chad offers Abigail a job. 

Thursday, March 2, 2017
Sonny informs Brady of his plans to take on Deimos. 

Friday, March 3, 2017
Eduardo vows not to give up on Kate.

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Wed, March 1, 2017
Nicole is furious when Brady gives her an update about Eric. 

After all the crap she has committed especially in relation to him and Sami, and the crap that Deimos that she has excused knowing that he did it dellberately, she has some damned nerve holding a grudge with Eric over something that was a horrible accident. It is not like Eric wanted to kill Daniel.

Not that I would blame if he had.

It is why I have never felt bad for Nicole when she lost badly. Serves her right.

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Last of Feb 27 through March 3

Tuesday, February 28, 2017


Nicole makes another heartfelt plea to Chloe to give back her baby. 

Wednesday, March 1, 2017
Dario makes a confession to Gabi. 

Thursday, March 2, 2017
Chad & Abigail continue to grow closer. 
Nicole makes a desperate move. 

Friday, March 3, 2017
Brady & Deimos clash over how to best help Nicole.

I keep seeing spoilers that Gabi and Eli are going to hook up.  Considering how long Valerie has been gone from the show, I don't like this, because ideally, he's too old for her.  Though they'll probably fudge that along the way.

The next question will be whether Gabi and Chad had sex, and will she be pregnant, and will we have a WTD story?

So Valerie really did go back to DC (or wherever)?

I like VI a lot but none of the many, many writers on DOOL ever knew what to do with his character.   A good murder mystery might just be what this show needs.  Of course good is the operative word.  I've not even bothered to try to unravel the Stefano-is-actually-alive mess.  It's just not worth it. 

Here's a quote that sums up why I won't be watching the next few months....

 

To make matters worse, Eric—the ex-priest who killed Nicole’s true love, Daniel, in a drunk-driving accident—is suddenly out of jail.


Yeah, and Nicole wants him dead. I think she really would kill Eric if she got the chance. The grief she feels over losing Daniel—who brought her the only true happiness she’d had in years—is unimaginable. She just can’t let it go. Days can get kinda kooky, but this pain Nicole feels is raw and real. It brings a lot of truth to the show.

 

 

...nope. Nope, nope, nope. I ain't sticking around for month 15 of mourning Dr. Tan. Also:

 

Killers are walking the streets of Salem...

 

...like Hope? Joey?

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