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12 hours ago, Rodney said:

Not surprising.  Now we know that Xander gets it from both parents, not just from Victor.

Not necessarily. Steve grew up with an extremely abusive father and submissive mother. Jack was raised by the power-hungry and misogynistic Harper Devereux and the disdainful socialite Angelica. Both were able to change for better despite their family background and things they had done in the past. By no means couldn’t Xander have undergone similar path.

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Except Jo was a decent person (although Steve was messed up until he met Kayla, then reunited with Jo) and Angelica was truly loving to Jack his entire childhood and adult life. Xander had Titus until he was effectively abandoned as a teen. That's a bad time to be without a rudder. Worse, Victor stepped in.

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I think Xander was craving a maternal influence his whole life after being abandoned, which is why he changed his behaviour right after connecting with Maggie

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Monday, October 21, 2024

Chad is stunned when “Abigail” is revealed to be a fraud.

Kristen makes a new offer to Xander.

Marlena and Kayla catch up regarding Kristen’s feelings for Brady.

Tuesday, October 22, 2024

Justin and Alex discuss Alex’s new job and Stephanie.

Nancy thinks her daughter Joy is perfect for Body & Soul

Jada advises Stephanie about her relationship with Alex

Wednesday, October 23, 2024

Johnny lies to Chanel.

Marlena senses something is wrong with Johnny.

Leo informs Stephanie and Paulina about on set sex at Body & Soul.

Thursday, October 24, 2024

Johnny is mortified when he learns the truth about Chanel and Alex.

Leo remarks to Bonnie that Hattie’s curse on Body & Soul has come true

Paulina blames Abe for the rift between Johnny and Chanel

Friday, October 25, 2024

Gabi reconsiders her pending divorce from Stefan.

EJ tries to strongarm Fiona.

Justin and Sarah attempt to convince Xander not to trade Titan to Kristen

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At least it sounds like Johnny won't be having this misunderstanding about Chanel for too long.  But . . . it sounds like finding out the truth, from the wording of the Abe/Paulina spoiler, just makes things worse with him and Chanel, not better.

Faux Abigail is finally found out.  About time.  I hope that Billy kills those scenes.

am interested in seeing how Fiona interacts with E.J.

Just as Kristen had started acting somewhat more human, she pulls this?

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9 hours ago, brisbydog said:

Nancy thinks her daughter Joy is perfect for Body & Soul

Noooooooooo! Call child protective services!

9 hours ago, brisbydog said:

Justin and Sarah attempt to convince Xander not to trade Titan to Kristen

THAT is her price?? Wowsers. Ambitious!

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Of all the reasons to bring back Joy this was their reason? Not that she had a sister in town for months or her dad coming out of the closet and leaving their mother for Leo's rancid ass. 

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On 10/15/2024 at 1:18 AM, DisneyBoy said:

Noooooooooo! Call child protective services!

THAT is her price?? Wowsers. Ambitious!

Xander should be demanding a huge discount.

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I'm already liking Joy. Since Chloe is my favorite character, I'm biased. I hope the show writes her well.

I find it confusing that Bonnie is talking about Joy with Kate and Abe. Granted Kate and Chloe have an extensive history, and I guess Bonnie and Chloe have history, too. It's still an odd assortment of characters.

I hope Parker will be introduced, too.

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15 hours ago, 4evaQuez said:

I'm already liking Joy. Since Chloe is my favorite character, I'm biased. I hope the show writes her well.

I find it confusing that Bonnie is talking about Joy with Kate and Abe. Granted Kate and Chloe have an extensive history, and I guess Bonnie and Chloe have history, too. It's still an odd assortment of characters.

I hope Parker will be introduced, too.

Bonnie knew Chloe during the Ghoul Girl days as Mimi and Chloe hated each other at the time. That part made sense to me.

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46 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Bonnie knew Chloe during the Ghoul Girl days as Mimi and Chloe hated each other at the time. That part made sense to me.

I know. I noted that Chloe and Bonnie have history, too. I was actually thinking of their more recent history with the Bonnie/Lucas baby lie. I just think Kate/Bonnie/Abe are a weird assortment of characters to discuss Joy. Then I remembered that this is probably because of Body and Soul.

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Phillip is back Friday just in time to contest the will and stop Xander from giving away Titan (played by John-Paul Lavoisier, the guy who played him last year). I will be glad to see him in this instance. I hope Brady comes up with another way to get the serum away from his awful ex. Proffering his body to her should work.

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6 hours ago, 4evaQuez said:

I know. I noted that Chloe and Bonnie have history, too. I was actually thinking of their more recent history with the Bonnie/Lucas baby lie. I just think Kate/Bonnie/Abe are a weird assortment of characters to discuss Joy. Then I remembered that this is probably because of Body and Soul.

Yes that's a good point Kate should definitely hate her for that but this show tries to whitewash Bonnie so at the same time I'm not surprised they conveniently ignore it.

1 minute ago, brisbydog said:

Phillip is back Friday just in time to contest the will and stop Xander from giving away Titan (played by John-Paul Lavoisier, the guy who played him last year). I will be glad to see him in this instance. I hope Brady comes up with another way to get the serum away from his awful ex. Proffering his body to her should work.

Does Phillip know Xander is his brother?  I'm sure it was probably off screen if so(they tend to have the good stuff happen offscreen)

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2 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Yes that's a good point Kate should definitely hate her for that but this show tries to whitewash Bonnie so at the same time I'm not surprised they conveniently ignore it.

Does Phillip know Xander is his brother?  I'm sure it was probably off screen if so(they tend to have the good stuff happen offscreen)

It honestly has not been that long in Salem time, he may well have just found out.

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20 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Yes that's a good point Kate should definitely hate her for that but this show tries to whitewash Bonnie so at the same time I'm not surprised they conveniently ignore it.

Not in this case.  Kate does still hate Bonnie for that.  She's only civil to her because she's working for her on Body and Soul.

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I know that a lot of people really like the returning of former characters, but to me, it just crowds the stories since most of them are just returning for a short time. If Philip's return is just to get Kristen to stop trying to take Titan, fine. But, we don't need new wasted stories - UNLESS they get rid of the stupid soap opera nonsense. In that case, I guess I would rather see useless and stupid stories with people we already know.

So, Salem is now the new LA/NY in terms of casting for acting roles? And, I know people have been asking about Joy for a long time, but it doesn't sound like she will be a nice person. We already have teens/young 20s silly teens with Holly and Sophia. So, now we have Joy.

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2 hours ago, Retired at last said:

So, Salem is now the new LA/NY in terms of casting for acting roles? And, I know people have been asking about Joy for a long time, but it doesn't sound like she will be a nice person. We already have teens/young 20s silly teens with Holly and Sophia. So, now we have Joy.

I'm okay with Joy not being a nice person. Personally, I think we have too many nice people on canvas, especially in the Chanel/Johnny/JJ/Alex category. (I don't know if I should include Stephanie here since she's in her 30s, but she is heavily connected to Alex. Stephanie and Chloe had a somewhat rocky history, so it could be a foundation for a Joy vs. Stephanie feud). I think Joy is needed to shake up the tedium of the set that should be anchoring stories.

 

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Monday, October 28, 2024

Philip messes up Xander’s plans

Vivian stops Stefan from seeing Gabi

Rafe and Gabi’s cousin, Javi, comes to Salem.

Kristen tries to make inroads with Brady.

Fiona faces the wrath of Sarah


Tuesday, October 29, 2024

Chad fills Julie in what happened in Paris

Cat and Mark worry about Clyde’s wrath.

Steve shares information with Marlena about Cat and Mark’s connection to Clyde.

Holly forgives Eric


Wednesday, October 30, 2024

Brady and Ava bond

Kayla and Roman catch up about the Chad and “Abigail” fallout.

Chad gets tough with Cat.

Sophia and Tate admit they have feelings for each other.

Maggie encourages Holly to track down Tate

 

Thursday, October 31, 2024

Leo has a Halloween-ish nightmare

Alex and Stephanie navigate the fallout from their on-set encounter.

Johnny pleads with Chanel for forgiveness

Kate gives Joy a part on Body and Soul


Friday, November 1, 2024

Xander makes Kristen a deadly offer

Johnny asks Joy to keep a secret

Kate encourages Chanel to give Johnny a second chance.

Vivian schemes with Philip.

Holly waits for Tate's response 

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Nice to see Holly getting over herself.

I hope that Johnny and Joy's secret isn't what I think it is.

Ooh, nice!  Glad to read that Vivian's coming back, too!  And Louise's Vivian, no less!

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Vivian's return makes me kind of sad she will never have any more scenes with John again.

Joy should be a schemer I mean she got it honestly with Craig/Nancy as her parents. I mean when they first came to town they were schemers over that Chief of Staff job at University Hospital.

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On 10/14/2024 at 6:04 PM, Rodney said:

At least it sounds like Johnny won't be having this misunderstanding about Chanel for too long.  But . . . it sounds like finding out the truth, from the wording of the Abe/Paulina spoiler, just makes things worse with him and Chanel, not better.

This may just be Paulina putting Abe on blast for Chanel saying Johnny is 'working' so many hours

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On 10/22/2024 at 3:43 PM, 4evaQuez said:

I'm okay with Joy not being a nice person. Personally, I think we have too many nice people on canvas, especially in the Chanel/Johnny/JJ/Alex category. (I don't know if I should include Stephanie here since she's in her 30s, but she is heavily connected to Alex. Stephanie and Chloe had a somewhat rocky history, so it could be a foundation for a Joy vs. Stephanie feud). I think Joy is needed to shake up the tedium of the set that should be anchoring stories.

 

Agreed. With Nancy and Craig as her parents, I really wouldn't expect a sweet ingenue. (Chloe wasn't a bitch but I wouldn't have classified her as sweet, either.) The show desperately needs schemers and at least one good bad boy. 

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7 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

Agreed. With Nancy and Craig as her parents, I really wouldn't expect a sweet ingenue. (Chloe wasn't a bitch but I wouldn't have classified her as sweet, either.) The show desperately needs schemers and at least one good bad boy. 

I think Noah Reed is coming soon, to tempt Holly away from sweet Tate. 

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On 10/22/2024 at 5:01 PM, brisbydog said:

Vivian stops Stefan from seeing Gabi

The Queen returns?!? Awesome

On 10/22/2024 at 5:01 PM, brisbydog said:

Holly forgives Eric

Fast but....okay. I mean, I wouldn't have minded them being estranged for 6 months. For once it would make sense.

On 10/22/2024 at 5:01 PM, brisbydog said:

Leo has a Halloween-ish nightmare

🙄How did I know this would happen?

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Per a preview for next week, Stefan does get an actual exit, but it's a pretty lame one.  He's kidnapped by Vivian and her henchmen and shipped off to parts unknown.  He's seen being stuffed into the trunk of a car, bound and gagged.

Tate and Sophia, meanwhile, are poised to have sex, and Holly's about to walk in on them doing it.

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10 hours ago, Rodney said:

Per a preview for next week, Stefan does get an actual exit, but it's a pretty lame one.  He's kidnapped by Vivian and her henchmen and shipped off to parts unknown.  He's seen being stuffed into the trunk of a car, bound and gagged.

Tate and Sophia, meanwhile, are poised to have sex, and Holly's about to walk in on them doing it.

Not henchmen... the divine Ivan!

 

But yes lame af

 

 

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30 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

Not henchmen... the divine Ivan!

I didn't even recognize Ivan G'Vera!  I thought that he had retired from acting!  Very surprised that they managed to get him for this one episode!

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12 hours ago, Rodney said:

Per a preview for next week, Stefan does get an actual exit, but it's a pretty lame one.  He's kidnapped by Vivian and her henchmen and shipped off to parts unknown.  He's seen being stuffed into the trunk of a car, bound and gagged.

Tate and Sophia, meanwhile, are poised to have sex, and Holly's about to walk in on them doing it.

That henchman that put Stefan in a trunk was Ivan(and while I find it hard to believe he could do it at his age I appreciate the nod to history of him always being a right hand man to Madame).

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2 hours ago, Rodney said:

I didn't even recognize Ivan G'Vera!  I thought that he had retired from acting!  Very surprised that they managed to get him for this one episode!

He was around for when Vivian kidnapped Carver and Jules a few years back but that was when Linda Dano played Vivian.

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I'm just thrilled to see him and Louise as Vivian again. If they're willing to do the show, as they seem to be, I wish TIIC would see fit to give them something fun to do, instead of just using them to facilitate something with a less interesting character (often Stefan, but also Jake, Lani, etc).

It's also hugely sad that after decades of serving her - and adoring her - Ivan still hasn't ever been her lover, has he?

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18 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I'm just thrilled to see him and Louise as Vivian again. If they're willing to do the show, as they seem to be, I wish TIIC would see fit to give them something fun to do, instead of just using them to facilitate something with a less interesting character (often Stefan, but also Jake, Lani, etc).

It's also hugely sad that after decades of serving her - and adoring her - Ivan still hasn't ever been her lover, has he?

Nope but I think he's just her companion and not much else. Although I could've sworn at one point Ivan/Celeste were almost a thing at one point. Or maybe that was wishful thinking on my part.

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23 hours ago, oceanblue said:

Or wishful thinking on Ivan's part.   

I don't know if Ivan was ever interested in Celeste but I remember liking their scenes because they really have so much in common. Except Celeste shared a child with Stefano and Ivan got nothing out of Vivian.

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Monday, November 4, 2024

Philip goads Xander

Vivian offers to cut Kate in on the Kiriakis fortune

Kate continues to cause a ripple effect by keeping Philip away from Vivian.

Holly wants to get back together with Tate

Tuesday, November 5, 2024

Sophia tries to share big news with Holly

Rafe and Javi come to terms over a family heirloom. 

Wednesday, November 6, 2024

Clyde asks Chad for a mysterious favor

Jada has a confrontation with Vivian.

EJ tries to console Gabi over Stefan

Thursday, November 7, 2024

Rafe and Jada make an announcement to the family

Johnny tries to bury his guilt while with Chanel. 

Stephanie and Alex make a decision about their relationship

Friday, November 8, 2024
HAPPY 59TH ANNIVERSARY DAYS!

Sarah tries to lift Maggie’s spirits

Brady confronts Kristen about her treachery

Belle and Paul return to Salem for Marlena and John’s wedding anniversary.

Julie takes care of Doug.

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2 hours ago, brisbydog said:

Belle and Paul return to Salem for Marlena and John’s wedding anniversary.

Oooooooof.

 

😬

2 hours ago, brisbydog said:

Julie takes care of Doug.

!!

 

Double oooooof.

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To be fair when this was taped Bill already passed in RL. I see they’re setting up Doug’s death like they did with Alice after Frances passed. Where vets return and reminisce while Doug is in the other room. 
 

I bet next Spring it’s something similar with John.

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I guess?

I mean, as a viewer, I suppose I prefer a more natural build-up, but if they just asked her to turn around and refer to Doug getting ill mere days after burying her real husband? That's...pretty awful.

People do die of heart attacks suddenly, or other things that cannot be foreseen. I fully expected Victor to just go in his sleep. Saying he died in a plane crash was a bit extra, especially since it was clear John was winding down these last few years.

How did Alice die again?

 

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29 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

How did Alice die again?

Simple old age.  They actually had hers happen slowly, over a period of weeks.  It was actually a more realistic depiction on how death comes on.

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11 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I fully expected Victor to just go in his sleep. Saying he died in a plane crash was a bit extra, especially since it was clear John was winding down these last few years.

I can understand about Julie & Doug because Susan & Bill were real life partners. I'm sure it wasn't easy, but Susan is a good actress.

But "extra" for Victor? Soaps are not fairy tales, and people do die in plane crashes. We can't all be lucky enough to simply die in our sleep.

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True, but Victor flying around when we didn't see him stand or walk for months...and then murdered in an exploding plane? That's pretty extra.

But I suppose being a powerful villain for so many years he needed more than a bout of pneumonia to end his life.

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