S03.E11: The Return: Part 11 2017.07.23

[Pete Martell]

I really enjoyed this episode (I hope the few people who still post here with me did too).

Miriam coming out of the grass, like a monster to that little boy, even though we know she's actually a kind, wonderful woman, was the exact type of scene you'd get in an old horror movie from the studio era. It was brilliantly done, a love letter to Lynch's early influences. 

I was glad to see less focus on victim Becky and more on just how desperate she is and how she can't break the cycle, even when Shelly and Bobby (I'm so glad I was wrong to think someone like James was the father) are there to help her. The scene of her going apeshit in the hotel reminded me an old Hitchhiker episode - it got that mania to a tee (that show was also bathed in cocaine, so they got the tone of Becky's hysteria just right). There were some interesting implications around, like the hint that Bobby hadn't been as close a part of her life, but you could still see the bond between father and daughter. And the cycle continued to prove its strength when Shelly literally went running into the arms of a very bad man. I'm going to say right out that I don't judge Shelly and I'm not going to act like Bobby was this saintly guy she is betraying - that relationship was probably a headache every day and Shelly has also been conditioned to want a lot of drama. Now that Bobby is, seemingly, in a good place, it may be too late for her to accept this and also to disassociate from what they once were. He may have just taken everything she had in terms of love and she can't go there again.

(now that I've said that...Shelly now it's the time to tell Bobby you're still in love with him and have a vow renewal with Norma officiating and giving those knowing glances Peggy Lipton made an artform of tonight, because you're my Twin Peaks OTP and I don't want anyone to take that away from me ever) 

Only Madchen Amick could ever look that good being thrown off a car. 

I didn't realize that was Donna's sister who was out getting dirty with Becky's loser husband. Somebody Skype Doc Hayward before it's too late. Having a piano segment at the end almost felt like trolling her. That could have been you, Gersten...

Harry Dean Stanton's role as a voice of kindness, calm and wisdom added an extra layer to the Shelly scenes that could have just been hogwild melodrama otherwise. The use of older actors in these calm, warm roles (again something that reminds me of old studio films) has been one of my favorite parts of this new season. Carl is a treasure. 

The set piece with Bobby and the cars was fascinating - a real tableau of the insanity of modern life, then at the end, some genuine horror thrown in. No one does that slow bug-eyed dread like Dana Ashbrook so I'm glad they gave him those scenes. My heart was in my throat wondering if Bobby was going to get killed by that kid. 

Speaking of Dana, I loved that scene where he was old angsty awkward teenage Bobby when he saw Shelly run off with Red, no matter how much he tried to hide it in front of his daughter. Perfect acting.

I said this last week but I wasn't expecting to see the Log Lady again. And again I was moved and had to collect myself. The way that Lynch is scattering out her appearances is how you spent your last weeks or months with a loved one who is dying - every conversation has a finality and poignancy. 

I know most people are sick to death of Dougie and Vegas, and I can't turn my nose in the air there - I feel like I should be too, with the clock winding down. But the sheer absurdity of Dougie embodying the "cinnamon roll too pure for this world" meme to such an extent that thanks to more than a little help from the Black Lodge (presumably) and the ridiculousness of Mullins (more wonderful work from Don Murray), not only was he not killed, but he was feted as a hero. Jim Belushi and Robert Knepper played these scenes, and their double act setting it up, brilliantly. The latest appearance of disassociated Candie fascinated me as ever. And the latest prick tease of Dale's return was broken up by the beautiful moment of the little old lady at the casino telling Dougie that thanks to him, her life was now wonderful, everything she'd always wanted. I loved that bit. That very rare happy ending, and the savoring of cherry pie, are likely the final moments to smile before Jennifer Jason Leigh and Tim Roth start their bloodbath, so I appreciated them for what they were.

From Miriam to Carl to the little old lady, there were multiple reminders in the episode, after months of seeing characters either suffer and suffer, die horribly, or face absurdist pseudo-realities, that good things and good people can survive and thrive. Hopefully that is a sign that the tone is shifting more and more as we head toward everything converging narratively.

The only part that slumped a bit for me was the stuff with the Hastings case, although that had some good moments, including Gordon nearly being sucked into the Doctor Who opening credits, and poor Matthew Lillard going Scanners through the sheer power of overacting. Seeing the struggle word games Albert and Gordon "world's worst actor (that's Gordon not David Lynch - he's actually quite a good actor)" were playing to try to hoodwink Diane also interested me.

Edited July 24, 2017 by Pete Martell

[PatternRec]

I'm not done watching yet so I haven't read the original post, but I'm amazed at Dana Ashbrook's performance, becoming the face of compassion and confusion in the face of horror, compared to what he was in the first season in particular.  

[Pete Martell]

1 minute ago, PatternRec said:

I'm not done watching yet so I haven't read the original post, but I'm amazed at Dana Ashbrook's performance, becoming the face of compassion and confusion in the face of horror, compared to what he was in the first season in particular.  

It's brilliant work, made even better because you still see the old Bobby underneath. It doesn't feel like a personality transplant.

[PatternRec]

8 minutes ago, Pete Martell said:

It's brilliant work, made even better because you still see the old Bobby underneath. It doesn't feel like a personality transplant.

Yeah Bobby was always the thug with a heart of gold. 

[Cheezwiz]

So things are starting to accelerate big time. Still no Audrey, but CHERRY PIE!!!! Finally!! This episode was a mix of comedy, high-drama and truly gross-out stuff.

Miriam is alive!

RIP Matthew Lillard: "He's dead." Yep, he sure is.

More log lady! She looked so sad in that scene - I have a feeling one of the intrepid Twin Peaks Sheriff's deputies is not going to make it back from this mission.

It was nice to see a scene with Bobby, Shelly & their daughter. They looked convincing, as a (fractured) family, and it seems that Bobby is genuinely on the straight and narrow. He was never a favourite of mine in the original, but I felt genuinely sorry for him this ep.

Who is the man Shelly ran to during the diner scene? I didn't recognize him. 

So we know that Sheriff Truman, Hawk, as well as the South Dakota agents are now heading to the same place. We just have to see how Dougie will get there - I honestly thought the news reports of him foiling the tiny assassin would somehow reach one of those two groups, but not so. How's he gonna get to the Pacific Northwest I wonder?

More smoke people ((shudder)). The agents are on to Diane.

I wanted to reach through my TV and hug Harry Dean Stanton.

[jsbt]

That was probably the best 'conventional' episode so far - including part 7. The Mitchums are lovable buffoons and guardians to Dougie, and the ending sequence was as purely sweet and goodhearted as anything in Lynch's work. The moment with the old woman from the casino was up there for me with the room service waiter in episode 14 of the original show coming up to Cooper and saying he was sorry. Huge tearjerker.

Tonight was the first time I began to wonder if Candie was an avatar of Laura Palmer. It may be nothing, but she was attuned to the same music and wavelength as Cooper. I could watch Amy Shiels forever. And the bit with Red - and Shelly randomly changing mood and rushing out without a word - made me wonder if he is indeed supernatural somehow and has that power over her.

I couldn't begin to start here. So many incredible sequences - the traffic jam with the sick/possessed? child, Carl and Shelly, the desert, Viva Las Vegas, the ending. And the Buckhorn gateway sequence was amazing too - unbelievable stuff. The wide shots of the street with Diane and Tammy perched at either end were art, right out of FWWM.

Speaking of the folks in Buckhorn: Everything about Tammy's visual and movement is, I think, innate to Chrysta Bell who is no thespian, but it's also a pure stylistic choice by Lynch. She is hyper-poised, hyper-exaggerated and she stands out in that dusty, dystopic wasteland with a gun drawn and everything about her decked out to the nines - in that setting, she looks like weird sculpture. You can call it fetishized and it is but I don't think it's about objectifying the female in those scenes so much as it is distilling a kind of weird noir essence. That may be why Bell has commented on being so comfortable with it in interviews - her femininity is used to hyper-stylize an existing strange canvas.

The oldest boy in the trailer park, who saw Miriam, was Mark Frost's young son Travis. I hope we see more of Gersten Hayward, who is clearly making poor choices.

Bushnell is just a delight. And I laughed again at Tom Sizemore crouching outside the window like a penitent dog. Lynch plays him for pure comedy as this bumbling oaf and it's so unlike most of his tough guy roles - he is hysterical when he says or does anything at all, it's so bizarre.

Deputy Jesse is such a cute space cadet. I love how loopy Lynch makes him even in tiny scenes. It's built up over time. And I love Maggie.

[Cheezwiz]

1 hour ago, Pete Martell said:

 

I didn't realize that was Donna's sister who was out getting dirty with Becky's loser husband. Somebody Skype Doc Hayward before it's too late. Having a piano segment at the end almost felt like trolling her. That could have been you, Gersten...

 

Whaat?! How did I miss that? Where was that info revealed?

Sometimes I feel like no matter how carefully I watch, little details slip by me.

[jsbt]

It wasn't. But that was Alicia Witt with Steven at the bottom of the stairs, and she plays Gersten, Donna's piano prodigy little sister who appeared in the season 2 premiere of the original show. (She also got her start as tiny Alia Atreides in Lynch's Dune.)

I really hope Diane isn't evil.

Edited July 24, 2017 by jsbt

[Pete Martell]

1 minute ago, jsbt said:

It wasn't. But that was Alicia Witt with Steven at the bottom of the stairs, and she plays Gersten, Donna's piano prodigy little sister who appeared in the season 2 premiere of the original show. (She also got her start as tiny Alia Atreides in Lynch's Dune.)

I really hope Diane isn't evil.

Yeah I wouldn't have caught it if I hadn't read it after watching the episode. They had her looking a bit different than I've seen Alicia Witt in other roles (she looked a bit like Donna - or what Donna might look like today if LFB hadn't ruined her face).

[Cheezwiz]

2 minutes ago, jsbt said:

It wasn't. But that was Alicia Witt with Steven at the bottom of the stairs, and she plays Gersten, Donna's piano prodigy little sister who appeared in the season 2 premiere of the original show. (She also got her start as tiny Alia Atreides in Lynch's Dune.)

Ah, ok, thank you - thought I was losing it there for a minute. But I honestly don't remember seeing Alicia Witt.

Also can anyone explain what the hell was going on during that traffic jam scene? That was horrifying. A really bad night for Bobby!

[Pete Martell]

14 minutes ago, Cheezwiz said:

More log lady! She looked so sad in that scene - I have a feeling one of the intrepid Twin Peaks Sheriff's deputies is not going to make it back from this mission.

It was nice to see a scene with Bobby, Shelly & their daughter. They looked convincing, as a (fractured) family, and it seems that Bobby is genuinely on the straight and narrow. He was never a favourite of mine in the original, but I felt genuinely sorry for him this ep.

Who is the man Shelly ran to during the diner scene? I didn't recognize him. 

I hadn't thought of that. Hopefully it will be Chad...

The guy Shelly ran to is Red, Richard's maniacal supplier. He did finger guns at her in the first episode. I have to laugh at Lynch using these cheesy things like finger guns and making faces at her through the window to show that he's a bad guy. 

[Aerobicidal]

@Pete Martell I have enjoyed all your posts this whole season. I wish I had the time and enthusiasm to say as much as I'd like to about these episodes, but I don't know that I really have anything meaningful to add most of the time.

That being said, I wondered if the endlessly honking cars was a reference to Godard's Weekend. Aside from the original surrealists, Godard (as well as Guy Maddin and Craig Baldwin) strikes me as someone who may have influenced Lynch.

I'm also hoping to see Audrey before the end of the season.

Finally, I saw Julee Cruise live about fifteen years ago and she looked like she was going to die at any moment. I thought that was appropriate.

ETA: I just googled Julee and she has the same birthday as me. We're in good company with Woody Allen, Bette Midler, and the crazy piano teacher I had in middle and high school.

Edited July 24, 2017 by Aerobicidal

[Cheezwiz]

1 minute ago, Pete Martell said:

I hadn't thought of that. Hopefully it will be Chad...

The guy Shelly ran to is Red, Richard's maniacal supplier. He did finger guns at her in the first episode. I have to laugh at Lynch using these cheesy things like finger guns and making faces at her through the window to show that he's a bad guy. 

Yes, I'm hoping Chad gets his just desserts.

I had completely forgotten about the Red character - in fact I didn't know he had a name. Oh, Shelley...

[jsbt]

3 minutes ago, Cheezwiz said:

Also can anyone explain what the hell was going on during that traffic jam scene?

Nope! But it was awesome! [/twinpeaks]

[Pete Martell]

Just now, Cheezwiz said:

Also can anyone explain what the hell was going on during that traffic jam scene? That was horrifying. A really bad night for Bobby!

I guess the mass anger and hysteria over the gun going off, maybe along with other things there (as a little boy was killed there not long ago) are feeding fear and pain and causing more supernatural evil.

The little boy in the car with that Linda Tripp-esque woman wasn't the boy who was ran over, was it?

One thing I noticed in this episode was that guns were repeatedly shown as being dangerous when in the hands of stupid or overly emotional people, while Bobby, who is generally a cool head in the revival, was shown calmly using his gun and taking a gun away from someone who was hysterical. 

Wherever Charlton Heston is now, I'm sure he would approve...

[jsbt]

I'm pretty sure that was actually a little girl in the car - Priya Diane Niehaus, listed as "Sick Girl". I think Lauren Tewes (from The Love Boat!) was the obnoxious woman.

I can understand complaints that the Dougie saga is too long, but I just can't agree when we have material like the last few weeks of Vegas, especially tonight and its ending. Everything is building to when all this - the classic iconography - wakes Cooper up.

[Guest]

I'm outside the US right now and was desperate to see this episode so, with a little rigging of a VPN, I could make the magic happen albeit a few hours behind the original US airing. 

When Dougie looked up from the dinner table as the piano player started playing, I swore it was a full-blown reappearance of Agent Cooper. Just the look on his face seemed completely transformed from Dougie into Dale. I was wrong, I guess, but that music meant something to him in some way. When the old woman came over to him, that whole exchange moved me to tears. I have no idea why. 

Hooray for living Miriam! And for the end credits that identified Shelly as "Shelly Briggs." 

Three cheers for Gordon and Albert trolling Diane with the pic of the coordinates. I'm sure that was a complete set up. 

ETA:

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Finally, I saw Julee Cruise live about fifteen years ago and she looked like she was going to die at any moment. I thought that was appropriate.

Was she in the episode?

Edited July 24, 2017 by Guest

[dwmckim]

Ah, Shelly... thrown off a car hood and thrown under a bus all in one episode!

[Cheezwiz]

3 minutes ago, Pete Martell said:

I guess the mass anger and hysteria over the gun going off, maybe along with other things there (as a little boy was killed there not long ago) are feeding fear and pain and causing more supernatural evil.

I like this theory - it's what I was pondering, since that was the intersection where Richard ran over the little boy? But I was confused by the sick girl - could that have been garmonbozia? (and holy shit jsbt! Good catch on Lauren Tewes in the credits - I wouldn't have recognized her in a million years).

[Pete Martell]

5 minutes ago, Aerobicidal said:

@Pete Martell I have enjoyed all your posts this whole season. I wish I had the time and enthusiasm to say as much as I'd like to about these episodes, but I don't know that I really have anything meaningful to add most of the time.

That being said, I wondered if the endlessly honking cars was a reference to Godard's Weekend. Aside from the original surrealists, Godard (as well as Guy Maddin and Crain Baldwin) strikes me as someone who may have influenced Lynch.

That's so kind of you. I sometimes feel like I post way too much, especially as a lot of fans, and presumably the podcast guy, have drifted away, but I've really enjoyed talking about it here and getting to see what other fans have to say in a way that lets you say more instead of just quick tweets of a million posts to wade through. 

I don't think I've ever seen Weekend but he does love a homage. I've seen some recaps saying the whole desert sequence was a homage to Se7en.

[jsbt]

2 minutes ago, Giant Misfit said:

Hooray for living Miriam! And for the end credits that identified Shelly as "Shelly Briggs." 

Yep. I had a feeling they were deliberately holding back - until now she was credited only as "Shelly".

When the old woman came over to him, that whole exchange moved me to tears. I have no idea why.

Same. Lynch does those moments of pure pathos and catharsis so well, even for stuff that should be so maudlin. I think part of the trick may be that he knows it is maudlin or OTT (in any kind of emotion) but still believes in it, so he addresses it and pushes beyond it. I think it's how he's been for a long time - with TP it started with the original pilot, and Grace Zabriskie's performance there as Sarah. She thought it was too much but he told her to just keep going. She did and it ended up working on people.

1 minute ago, Cheezwiz said:

I like this theory - it's what I was pondering, since that was the intersection where Richard ran over the little boy? But I was confused by the sick girl - could that have been garmonbozia?

My suspicion is it may have to do again with the drugs Red is pushing, if indeed he is linked to the supernatural - I would not be shocked if his operation in Twin Peaks circles back to the doppelganger's criminal empire in Vegas and New York, that Evil Cooper and Jeffries are running it all. The drugs may be turning all sorts of people totally apeshit.

Or it could be nothing so specific. Could just be a classic Lynch tableau showing tragedy, horror and sickness pervading the town - just another sick child showing how polluted the town has become again under the surface. Who knows. Either way I think it goes back to the same narrative point, which is that all is not well in Twin Peaks.

The mention of the corn fields makes me wonder if we will finally get a take on another much-rumored sequence the co-writer of FWWM has teased for decades, not unlike his mention of their old plan for a 1950s flashback - which manifested in part 8.

[minamurray78]

Well hell Miriam did make it after all, go Miriam!

 And WHAT THE HELL was that zombielike child in the car? It looked like she materialized from the car floor? puking pea soup like Linda Blair? WTF.

The vanishing homeless men continue to be disturbing. So was that black hole that almost swallowed Gordon.

And Dougie's fan club is getting bigger by the minute. 

[jsbt]

At this point Dougie, the Mitchums, Candie and Janey-E could all roll up in Twin Peaks with Cooper still not awake to crack the case and I'd probably be onboard.

[jsbt]

Also: The wallpaper on the staircase with the Woodsmen may match this - Laura's painting from FWWM.

I apologize to poor Lauren Tewes for insinuating she was the gorgon in the car; she was the woman in Gersten's apartment building.

Edited July 24, 2017 by jsbt

[Pete Martell]

5 minutes ago, Giant Misfit said:

When Dougie looked up from the dinner table as the piano player started playing, I swore it was a full-blown reappearance of Agent Cooper. Just the look on his face seemed completely transformed from Dougie into Dale. I was wrong, I guess, but that music meant something to him in some way. When the old woman came over to him, that whole exchange moved me to tears. I have no idea why. 

They've done this fakeout a number of times now but yet again I thought he was going to wake up when he heard the music. I don't know how Kyle Maclachlan does it every time. He is so in tune with Dale, I guess, that he knows how to bring that back for a few seconds. There's something very pure about those moments amidst Dougie's slumber. 

I saw someone saying that a lot of Dougie is still Cooper - his sense of right and wrong, his kindness, his reflexes, what he loves, etc. and that he may just be afraid to face himself again after so many years. and face his demons. I guess it would take a big event to make him want to wake up.

If Candie is supposed to be like him then I wonder if it would wake her up too.

[jsbt]

I don't think it's about a fakeout/tease most times, to be honest; while that element is there I don't think it's usually the only reason. A lot of times it's about engaging with Cooper's own internal struggle/reminiscence. And I think in this particular instance it's just this pure moment of goodness and showing what Cooper (and I suspect the White Lodge) can do in the world and why he's needed.

I've suspected from the beginning that Laura is out there in the world with another identity, just like Cooper/Dougie, as played by Sheryl Lee. But this thing with Candie at the moment has me wondering if Laura might not briefly have a new face. It's probably a coincidence though.

Edited July 24, 2017 by jsbt

[Pete Martell]

Now that the Buckhorn saga is winding down I guess it's not likely we'll be seeing Bailey Chase again - he must have just been one of those "I got to be on a David Lynch project" cameos like Richard Chamberlain. He was always good eye candy (that pretty much got me through the Initiative arc on BtVS), so I suppose I should be happy for what I got.

[jsbt]

I have begun to wonder if Detective Mackley (a Lynch favorite - Brent Briscoe was also in MD as one of the detectives with Robert Forster, IIRC) and Constance may accompany the FBI to Twin Peaks. Which has to be where they're going - IIRC Albert was telling Cole the coordinates led to "a little town in Washington" just before the others arrived and interrupted.

Also hilarious: Carl whistling for the van on a damn flute.

Edited July 24, 2017 by jsbt

[TDT]

Having a laugh at the episode descriptions as they appear on my DirecTV guide..

"This is the chair."

"Laura is the one."

“There’s fire where you are going.”

I guess the one for next week will be: "Walk with me."

Finale:"And now,a message from Mr. Lynch."

[dosodog]

I thought the cherry pie was going to wake up Cooper.  I think it did for a second. 

Still giggling over Dougie Cooper following the coffee to Mullins office like a puppy following a dog treat.

[jsbt]

Next week's is

"Let's rock."

[larapu2000]

2 hours ago, dosodog said:

I thought the cherry pie was going to wake up Cooper.  I think it did for a second. 

Still giggling over Dougie Cooper following the coffee to Mullins office like a puppy following a dog treat.

I thought it did for a second as well.  There was a different tenor to his voice, like Cooper's real voice, versus when Dougie repeats things like "case files" and it's in that dreamy voice, versus the stronger, clearer voice of Cooper.

I also thought that when the music was playing, Audrey would walk into the restaurant and THAT would wake Cooper up?

[jamblastx]

OK....after the last few episodes, I am now officially 'all in' in really loving season 3.  Yes, it isn't 'classic' Twin Peaks but more like a David Lynch movie with some Twin Peaks characters in it...and it sure helped to rewatch Fire Walk With Me a few weeks ago (which I HATED when I originally saw it in 93, but kinda liked it this time around).  Heck, I am actually starting to like Dougie a little.

• I loved Diane saying 'Backup wont help that' after viewing the imploded Hastings...especially how it was shot from inside the car with Diane's voice muffled
• At the end credits I was like 'Alicia Witt?....Gersten Heyward?....where?  Did I nod off?' and then scoured online to find out where she was in the episode and watch the scene again
• More Candie.....yes!!!!!

[TexasGal]

10 hours ago, Pete Martell said:

Only Madchen Amick could ever look that good being thrown off a car. 

The set piece with Bobby and the cars was fascinating - a real tableau of the insanity of modern life, then at the end, some genuine horror thrown in. No one does that slow bug-eyed dread like Dana Ashbrook so I'm glad they gave him those scenes. My heart was in my throat wondering if Bobby was going to get killed by that kid. 

 

She is still just stunning - that red lipstick.  Wow.

I was shouting at my tv for Bobby to back up from the car.  Like it was going to turn into a Stephen King story somehow and the kid's vomit (?) would touch him and he'd be screwed.

I have to say, I hated Bobby in the original run.  With a passion.  But he may be my favorite character this time around.  

[luna1122]

I too saw Alicia Witt's name in the credits and had to 'rewind' and go back and look; I hadn't realized that was her hiding with Steven. There must be a real lack of good men with character in Twin Peaks, or else, women there just have bad judgement. Including Shelly, who acted exactly like her stupid, delusional-in-love daughter when Red waved from outside the diner. I'm again struck by how much more gorgeous Madchen Amick looks on this show than she does on Riverdale. Poor Bobby, who looked like a rejected puppy watching her smooch her new hoodlum boyfriend.

I was nope nope nope-ing and WTF-ing?? all thru that car scene with the puking zombie child...will we ever know what that was about? probably not, but I was holding up my hand to block my view of the screen thru most of that. That was Lauren Tewes???? Really??

I may be alone in just not getting Candi, or her appeal.

Cherry pie. And Dougie chasing after his coffee...i'm pretty much like that about my coffee.

RIP Matthew Lillard. That...chomping sound as his brain imploded or whatever it did was horrifying.

[dosodog]

You are not alone.  Not a big fan of Candie either.  I reserve the right to change my mind though!

It's official. The soot guys now creep me out on a Bob level.  My neck hurts this morning due to the swiveling. I had to make sure no one was disappearing and reappearing behind me.

What the hell Gordon.  You had me yelling at the tv.  DO NOT REACH FOR THE SOOT MEN!

[Penman61]

What was the melody the piano man played that got DougieCoop's attention?

[Cheezwiz]

2 hours ago, luna1122 said:

I was nope nope nope-ing and WTF-ing?? all thru that car scene with the puking zombie child...will we ever know what that was about? probably not, but I was holding up my hand to block my view of the screen thru most of that. That was Lauren Tewes???? Really??

I may be alone in just not getting Candi, or her appeal.

I had the exact same reaction during that traffic jam scene - I had to look away. I just can't do barfing scenes. Plus the woman sitting on the driver's side doing nothing but screaming just added to the horror.

I am baffled by the Candi love as well. I don't get it. Her vacant disconnection is mildly amusing in small doses, but I sure wouldn't want to watch anything featuring her more heavily. I do love the pink costumes though!

Edited to add: after reading some of the analysis on other sites, I realized something that should have been obvious while I was watching: Lynch was totally spoofing David Fincher's Seven with the whole cherry pie in the box scene!

Edited July 24, 2017 by Cheezwiz

[Cheezwiz]

1 hour ago, Penman61 said:

What was the melody the piano man played that got DougieCoop's attention?

I was wondering about that too - I didn't recognize the tune, but it was clearly supposed to be significant, as DougieCoop seemed to perk up when it was played. It also subbed for the usual Bang Bang bar close-out, which seemed to indicate some importance.

[TexasGal]

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/07/twin-peaks-episode-11-recap-bobby-briggs-becky-father-shelly-boyfriend-red

Apparently Vanity Fair agrees with me about Bobby!

[chinatown]

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What was the melody the piano man played that got DougieCoop's attention?

Ha, I came here to see if anyone else knew for sure. The melody sounds like "Magic Doors" by Portishead but it also sounds like it might be something else I can't quite put my finger on.

Every time I see Bobby, I miss Major Briggs. Loved the character and loved the actor.

[Affogato]

13 hours ago, Cheezwiz said:

More log lady! She looked so sad in that scene - I have a feeling one of the intrepid Twin Peaks Sheriff's deputies is not going to make it back from this mission.

 

I read the Secret History of Twin Peaks during the 4th of July break and the log lady's story features in this. t it looks as if having read the book is going to add a lot to this story.

Spoiler

Her husband is a firefighter who dies right after their wedding and apparently inhabits the log right afterwards, there is quite an owl cave connection, she was lost in the area as a child.

Anyway, her seeing fire does not bode well for Hawk and friends.

[Penman61]

6 minutes ago, chinatown said:

...but it also sounds like it might be something else I can't quite put my finger on.

You and DougieCoop both, lol!

So: What combination of coffee, cherry pie, red pumps, haunting musical themes, and "damn good [ ]" will finally wake Cooper up?

[Affogato]

19 minutes ago, Penman61 said:

You and DougieCoop both, lol!

So: What combination of coffee, cherry pie, red pumps, haunting musical themes, and "damn good [ ]" will finally wake Cooper up?

Rescuing Diane from his dark companion?

There is an awful lot of Candie, it seems like there has to be more to that story (she could be a place holder for Laura, like Dougie was for Cooper In the same way the traffic jam, screaming woman, vomiting child would seem like it has to mean something (are people being drawn to the owl cave from all over the area?).

Jerry is likely quite sober by now, poor fellow.

[Affogato]

4 hours ago, luna1122 said:

I may be alone in just not getting Candi, or her appeal.

Cherry pie. And Dougie chasing after his coffee...i'm pretty much like that about my coffee.

 

I love the way Dougie holds on to a coffee with both trembling hands. It was a hard 25 years for him without it.

That incredible spit take when he tries the coffee Janey E makes, she apparently makes a terrible cup of coffee. Or maybe it was just really hot, but my thought was terrible.

[Affogato]

14 hours ago, Pete Martell said:

It's brilliant work, made even better because you still see the old Bobby underneath. It doesn't feel like a personality transplant.

Yeah, to quote Stephen King, Bobby finally remembered the face of his father.

[luna1122]

4 minutes ago, Affogato said:

I love the way Dougie holds on to a coffee with both trembling hands. It was a hard 25 years for him without it.

That incredible spit take when he tries the coffee Janey E makes, she apparently makes a terrible cup of coffee. Or maybe it was just really hot, but my thought was terrible.

Affogato, just seeing your screenname turns me into Dougie every time I see it. Coffee, I need coffee!! Also ice cream.

I'm hoping it's Audrey who somehow wakes Dale Cooper up.

[meep.meep]

So why did Diane tell everyone that she saw the charcoal guy get *out* of the car, when we saw her watch him get *in* the car?

Having different characters show that they are feeling frustrating rage by screaming out loud is really getting old - twice in one episode is ridiculous.

I guess I'm the anti-viewer - the only parts I like are the Dougie scenes.   And it's pretty clear that you'all aren't getting Agent Cooper back until the last scene of the last episode.

[Affogato]

1 hour ago, luna1122 said:

Affogato, just seeing your screenname turns me into Dougie every time I see it. Coffee, I need coffee!! Also ice cream.

I'm hoping it's Audrey who somehow wakes Dale Cooper up.

Strange how the cherry pie is without ice cream....

Sleeping Beauty! The Hornes will probably show up at the rendezvous searching for Jerry.

[TattleTeeny]

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That incredible spit take when he tries the coffee Janey E makes, she apparently makes a terrible cup of coffee. Or maybe it was just really hot, but my thought was terrible.

Just like season one in the woods: "Damn good coffee -- and hot!"