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here’s more pics of Cersei and Jon 

I have no words ...

4 minutes ago, anamika said:

At this point, Riverrun should also have snow - we saw it snowing in KL last season. Maybe they will add in the snow later. This could be anywhere.

We already knew that these two were gonna meet from David and Dan's DVD commentary. So here's Cersei and Jonno:

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http://www.thedubrovniktimes.com/news/dubrovnik/item/3949-photo-exclusive-jon-snow-meets-cersei-at-king-s-landing

From the look of things David and Dan seem to be directing this scene, which means last episode which probably means Cersei is going to hang on till the very last second of this show. Terrible.

 

Holy moly. Well, Jon seems to be me sitting in one picture, is it possible she is dethroned? I also don’t see a crown on her head

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Like, when is Jaime going to kill her, dammit.  I was thinking that the last episode would be the denouement. Now it looks like things will probably not get tied up and resolved until the last 15 minutes or so.

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2 minutes ago, anamika said:

Like, when is Jaime going to kill her, dammit.  I was thinking that the last episode would be the denouement. Now it looks like things will probably not get tied up and resolved until the last 15 minutes or so.

For real. She doesn’t look Pregnant either though from what I can see . 

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23 minutes ago, GraceK said:

Do you think she captures him? I hope not 

There were some leaks saying that she does, and some speculation on free folk that he is bending the knee here:

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But with this looking like it's the last episode, I am doubtful that's what's happening here. '

That lady with her hand over her mouth does seem to be enjoying herself... It's almost like they don't care about the paps taking their pics while they conveniently film right in front of that big ass window.

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4 minutes ago, anamika said:

Looks like I jumped the gun. Nutter is there as well.  Not the final episode!

https://pp.userapi.com/c841135/v841135017/6c7a5/bzkopUI4WWM.jpg

That’s good! My first impression going from all the scenes so far that we have seen is maybe Jon lands Rhaegal in KL, and walks down to meet Cersei? He doesn’t seem like a prisoner, and she is not wearing her crown or seems to be pregnant. Maybe those men flanking him are just escorts? Cersei tends to keep her prisoners chained and tortured, Jon seems to have too much freedom. The mountain being there concerns me though because i can’t see anything bad happening to Cersei with him around, and I don’t see why he wouldn’t have been killed already . O.o

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57 minutes ago, anamika said:

At this point, Riverrun should also have snow - we saw it snowing in KL last season. Maybe they will add in the snow later. This could be anywhere.

We already knew that these two were gonna meet from David and Dan's DVD commentary. So here's Cersei and Jonno:

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None of the leaks has any mention of this meeting except for the fake scripts. And I think we can all agree that this (Cersei/Jon) is something worthy of mentioning.

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28 minutes ago, GraceK said:

Those guys flanking Jon in the earlier pictures looked like Ironborn to me. I didn’t want to think so but that was my first impression. 

If they are Ironborn, maybe Theon an Yara do defeat their uncle and Jon is going to KL to inform Cersei that her plan failed? Iroborn could be loyal to Yara and Theon.

It's hard to say what this shoot is about without some more context.

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19 minutes ago, WearyTraveler said:

If they are Ironborn, maybe Theon an Yara do defeat their uncle and Jon is going to KL to inform Cersei that her plan failed? Iroborn could be loyal to Yara and Theon.

It's hard to say what this shoot is about without some more context.

It’s also interesting that there is no snow and Cersei doesn’t seem pregnant.Which makes me wonder if this is AFTER the battle with NK ...

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10 minutes ago, GraceK said:

If Cersei’s idiotic plan to have Jon\Dany deplete their forces in the battle for Dawn ends up  working , I will be pissed.

I'm sure it will work. 

Cersei should have bowed out last season.

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14 minutes ago, GraceK said:

If Cersei’s idiotic plan to have Jon\Dany deplete their forces in the battle for Dawn ends up  working , I will be pissed.

 

And in another form Sansa was right. :( / :\

 

ETA:  and this doesn't totally let Tyrion off the hook either.

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1 minute ago, YaddaYadda said:

I'm sure it will work. 

Cersei should have bowed out last season.

I am sick of Cersei . If she ends up winning after all of this I will smash my tv lol

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5 minutes ago, GrailKing said:

And in another form Sansa was right. :( / :\

 

ETA:  and this doesn't totally let Tyrion off the hook either.

Eh. I still don’t buy Tyrion betrays everyone theory. The good thing about these pics is that Jon doesn’t seem to be prisoner. It looks more like a parlay of some kind. 

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1 minute ago, GraceK said:

Eh. I still don’t buy Tyrion betrays everyone theory. The good thing about these pics is that Jon doesn’t seem to be prisoner. It looks more like a parlay of some kind. 

We don't know, but it's not totally ruled out by this as we don't know the context yet for another year. 

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14 minutes ago, GraceK said:

If Cersei’s idiotic plan to have Jon\Dany deplete their forces in the battle for Dawn ends up  working , I will be pissed.

Idiotic? It wasn't idiotic at all. Idiotic was wight hunt or trying to negotiate with her, but Cersei plan is actually very smart. Dany's plan is to deal with the NK first and then continue her pursue for the throne, if Cersei sends her troops to deal with the NK,  she's left with no army to defend her throne. If Dany's army can't defeat the NK, then Cersei's army is screw and she knows it. She prefers to die by the NK than left the throne to Dany.

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4 minutes ago, Edith said:

Idiotic? It wasn't idiotic at all. Idiotic was wight hunt or trying to negotiate with her, but Cersei plan is actually very smart. Dany's plan is to deal with the NK first and then continue her pursue for the throne, if Cersei sends her troops to deal with the NK,  she's left with no army to defend her throne. If Dany's army can't defeat the NK, then Cersei's army is screw and she knows it. She prefers to die by the NK than left the throne to Dany.

Idiotic was the wrong word :) all good points btw. In my moments of not hating Cersei I thought the same thing. I wish that Dany  just took kings landing at her full strength  instead of listening to Tyrion and going through with that stupid Wight hunt. But that’s a different topic.

One more year to go!!

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3 minutes ago, GrailKing said:

We don't know, but it's not totally ruled out by this as we don't know the context yet for another year. 

Yes it is. The fact that none of the leakers mentioned points out that there all fake. This is not a minor scene, this is a big deal. Tyrion betraying Jon/Dany was already speculated to death after last season. And Sansa's death, well that's always in the freefolks mind. 

I remember last season, after everything leak has been proven true, freefolks were still sure that Sansa was going to die and that it was filmed in a close set. And there were actually leakers with that spoiler. 

When Lads gave his leaks last season, not only he did it before there were spoilers confirmed by WOTW, but he was able to point out every big and little detail of season 7.

These leakers only came out after something is confirmed by WOTW and they all focus on Jon defeating the NK, Tyrion's betrayal, Sansa's death, Dany's pregnancy and Jaime killing Cersei. No mention of Bran, Sam, Theon or Arya, apart from becoming a lady, there's nothing on her. 

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33 minutes ago, Edith said:

I don't know, maybe they mean Jon and Cersei but who knows at this point. 

There hasn’t been any sign of Sophie there, so yeah, I’m sure they mean Cersei.

Though the howls of rage from Freefolk if it was Sansa would be hilarious.

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1 minute ago, SeanC said:

There hasn’t been any sign of Sophie there, so yeah, I’m sure they mean Cersei.

Though the howls of rage from Freefolk if it was Sansa would be hilarious.

Sounds and clapping and Song : ding dong the witch is dead, the wicked witch of the North is dead.

Surprised not to see this yet.

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The person has just confirmed that it was Sansa she saw not Cersei..

She didn't see her filming and Kit seen to be giving an interview. She is 85% sure it was Sansa.

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32 minutes ago, Edith said:

The person has just confirmed that it was Sansa she saw not Cersei..

She didn't see her filming and Kit seen to be giving an interview. She is 85% sure it was Sansa.

Well it's blocked.

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4 minutes ago, GraceK said:

Cersei doesn’t look very happy in these pictures and she is not wearing her crown. I will take this to heart! :)

Well in one picture she's looking down, like someone is below her.

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6 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

I'm totally late to the party. Can you explain what was in her post and, why shippers attacked?

Thanks!

She published a picture of some filming in Croatia, stating that Jon and Sansa were there and high security in the place. 

A lot of comments asked her if she mean Cersei but she latter answered that she didn't see Cersei but Sansa. She also stated that they were not filming and Kit was giving an interview (after the episode interview I guess) and Sansa was there, and she was 85% sure it was her.

After saying that she got a lot of cruel comments after that, like really really rude comments from some shippers. She was called a liar and other stuff so she deleted the picture 

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6 minutes ago, Edith said:

She published a picture of some filming in Croatia, stating that Jon and Sansa were there and high security in the place. 

A lot of comments asked her if she mean Cersei but she latter answered that she didn't see Cersei but Sansa. She also stated that they were not filming and Kit was giving an interview (after the episode interview I guess) and Sansa was there, and she was 85% sure it was her.

After saying that she got a lot of cruel comments after that, like really really rude comments from some shippers. She was called a liar and other stuff so she deleted the picture 

Thanks for the explanation. 

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1 hour ago, GraceK said:

Sophie Turner wasn’t there. She’s been spotted in manhattan apartment hunting with her fiancé .

https://nypost.com/2018/02/07/joe-jonas-and-sophie-turner-house-hunt-in-greenwich-village/

Her fiancé is in Australia or at least he was there 13 hours ago. There was some speculation on freefolk that she was going to AU with him but she didn't. The last time she was seen in London. 

Interesting enough today was the premiere of her new movie in some festival and she wasn't there. So either she's filming (where I don't know) or on her way to AU

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I officially don't have a freaking clue about why Jon is meeting Cersei. I doubted this was King's Landing, but maybe I am wrong. If it is King's Landing, then maybe Jon is there to confront Cersei about her treachery and get her to join them or maybe she has kidnapped the non-combatants and he is negotiating for their release. I have read speculation on WOTW that he flies there on Rhaegal which I suppose is possible, but even that I doubt. In any case, this isn't the final episode.

Cersei's wig still sucks.

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6 minutes ago, Edith said:

Her fiancé is in Australia or at least he was there 13 hours ago. There was some speculation on freefolk that she was going to AU with him but she didn't. The last time she was seen in London. 

Interesting enough today was the premiere of her new movie in some festival and she wasn't there. So either she's filming (where I don't know) or on her way to AU

Interesting! So I wonder if the article I posted was just gossip or If they were wrong on when they were spotted. Thanks for the clarification:)

4 minutes ago, SimoneS said:

I officially don't have a freaking clue about why Jon is meeting Cersei. I doubted this was King's Landing, but maybe I am wrong. If it is King's Landing, then maybe Jon is there to confront Cersei about her treachery and get her to join them or maybe she has kidnapped the non-combatants and he is negotiating for their release. I have read speculation on WOTW that he flies there on Rhaegal which I suppose is possible, but even that I doubt. In any case, this isn't the final episode.

Cersei's wig still sucks.

I think whatever the reason is, it won’t be what we expect. What gives me hope is the fact that Cersei is not wearing her crown, and she doesn’t look happy at all. Jon also seems to be quite free, standing majestically with his cloak blowing in the wind in a different shot, and walking with no chains. At this point anything could be happening, but I’m seriously holding  on to dear hope that by what it looks like, Jon is not captive.

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16 minutes ago, GraceK said:

Interesting! So I wonder if the article I posted was just gossip or If they were wrong on when they were spotted. Thanks for the clarification:)

It is obvious that picture was taken during nicer weather with the background lavish greenery and the warm weather clothing Sophie & Joe are wearing. Temperatures in NYC are mid 20's & 30's. Not that the story is incorrect but the picture is not from 2/7/18 when the story was posted. Also if she was apartment hunting yesterday it doesn't rule out her being on set today.

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Just now, Stella said:

It is obvious that picture was taken during nicer weather with the background lavish greenery and the warm weather clothing Sophie & Joe are wearing. Temperatures in NYC are mid 20's & 30's. Not that the story is incorrect but the picture is not from 2/7/18 when the story was posted. Also if she was apartment hunting yesterday it doesn't rule out her being on set today.

Cool thanks. I still don’t think she was on set though. 

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