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    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    A day later and I still can't believe how the most useless characters got rewarded at the end while the folks who did the hard work got shafted. Sansa and the Northerners - bitched and moaned for seasons about Jon trying to get help to save the North and were ungrateful assholes the entire time. Then Jon, Dany, Arya, Dothraki, Unsullied help them defend their home - many dying in the process - and get no appreciation in return. In the end Sansa and the Northerners get rewarded with independence for doing absolutely fuck all. Bran who just sat under a tree - becomes king for no reason Sam who did fuck all becomes Maester Bronn, sellsword was rewarded for not killing the Lannisters? Tyrion who destroyed Dany's campaign and basically gaslighted her into madness gets to make self righteous speeches and make himself hand of the king Dany who helped free slaves and build a city for them, who actually fought the NK, halted her campaign to defend the North and defeated Cersei? Mad and dead. Jon who helped unite the realm temporarily against the NK, got everyone together to defend the North and took down Dany? Banished The hero of WF who fought, defended her home and defeated the NK? Sailed off to nowhere. D&D already destroyed the central premise of the show by making the Iron Throne more important than the AOTD. I don't even know what story the show is telling. That their fan service characters like Bronn get to win in the end? The only characters who deserved their endings were: Davos: The consistently good and smart person - he should have been Hand of the King Brienne: Kingsguard. Fitting Yara Greyjoy was more deserving of being queen than Sansa ever was. Yara actually stole ships, went to Dany and negotiated independence like an adult, fought in Dany's battles and took back the Iron Islands. She was loyal to Dany till the end. She's an actual ruler. And in the end she had to sit there and get snapped at by Arya and Sansa. Ugh.
  2. anamika

    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    I mean Bran as written on the show is ultimately evil. As he tells the council, when they wanted to make him king - 'that's why I am here'. He knew what was going to go down with Dany and he just allowed thousands to die so that he could become king. And Tyrion knows what he is and hears him say this and still voted to make him king. Terrible really. And then we have Sansa who plotted to take down Dany and despite her brother, a Stark, being king, wants an independent North for no other reason other than she wants to wear a crown and be queen. Pretty sure that Yara and the Dornish prince are plotting for their own independence after that. So possibly civil war once again. The show was supposed to be about an exploration of power and how power corrupts, but we got nothing of that. Dany just went mad at the end because it was in her genes. The people who did not want power or care for power - Jon and Arya - fucked off to the corners of the world in the end. And the power hungry idiots - Bronn, Sansa, Tyrion etc. - continue to be in charge and hold power.
  3. anamika

    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

  4. anamika

    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    And then we had Sansa's dumb ass threaten him with her 10 Northerners, lol. Not to mention Yara and the Iron Born being there and being Dany supporters. I really wish GreyWorm had taken Sansa up on her threat and showed her what's what. She really is the new Cersei and gets a pass for all the stupid things she does. I wish Jon would have been given the chance to confront her about her betrayal but of course D&D are not going to allow for any of that to happen to their fave.
  5. anamika

    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    Sansa: You should be Lord of Winterfell Bran: Nah, I am the 3ER now. Tyrion: You should be King of the 7K Bran: Ok, then! Little did we know then that Bran was just aiming for a higher position than Lord of WF. Benioff : Well, Sansa asks for independence while Yara kind of forgot that she had made a deal with Dany...
  6. anamika

    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    So did we get the ending to the joke about the honeycomb and the jackass? Jon and Arya at the end. The good bye was nice. At least something of an ending for these two considering how much I like their relationship in the books.
  7. anamika

    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    All that Nazi imagery with Dany and the Unsullied, damn. D&D really are tone deaf. They keep wanting me to give a damn about Dany's soldiers killing Lannister soldiers, but I am just not caring at this point about evil Dany because it's done so badly.
  8. anamika

    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    So the North get special privileges and independence over kingdoms like Dorne and the Iron Islands? fucking lol! But hey, D&D got to make Sansa queen like they always wanted. Jon and Ghost was the only good thing about this episode for me. That and Arya leaving this mess of a story. Brienne writing Jaime's conclusion. What a joke. That bro council at the end, ugh. Tyrion getting off free after making Jon do his dirty work. No consequences to his shitty decision making skills for three seasons.
  9. anamika

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Well fellow spoilers and speculation folks! This is it. Series finale and goodbye to this thread. Today it ends. I have enjoyed our discussions, debates, arguments and while several of us have had differences of opinions, it's been a fun time. I think a few of us have been on here for quite some time and it's been great discussing this show, the books, the mythology and everything about the series with you guys! Ultimately a lot of the foreshadowing, mythology and character development meant nothing on the show as D&D rushed to the end prioritizing subverted expectations and spectacle over the characters and story. But it is an ending - to both the show and the books. For this series and for the characters I have known for some 20 years ago. Good bye to them and and to this fictional world. Cheers!
  10. anamika

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    I am sure Emilia Clarke wants to continue working in Hollywood considering she's living in the States now and dissing your former showrunners is not the done thing. No matter how displeased one is. We have seen actors getting backlisted for daring to complain about the shows/films that made them famous. Joe Dempsie criticizing the show and Jacob Anderson calling him 'brave' and asking if he does not want a part in Star Wars at around .30 seconds in this video is telling: Joe is also not that attached to the show or the writers and hence maybe can be more free in what he can say about the show. Conleth Hill has also openly talked about his disappointment. And as Maisie Williams repeatedly stated in her interviews when asked about the ending - it's done now. This is a character they have spend a lot of time with and grew up with and it's done and they have finished filming. Nothing can be changed and it's better and happier for all of them as actors to accept that and move on (Around the 1 minute mark in the video below) Sure, we will see some of the actors criticize the show and the writing. But for the most part, if they want to continue working in Hollywood, we are not going to see anything against the showrunners. The show made them rich and famous after all. I doubt they are going to be crying over this.
  11. anamika

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    I think they will spend some time on Jon and Dany and Jon having to kill her. It's after all their big ending for the series. Dany and the man she loved having to kill her. If they do this in 10 minutes, the backlash these guys have seen thus far will be nothing compared to what they will get for the finale. I think 30 minutes for Jon/Dany so that Emilia Clarke can try for her Emmy, 30 minutes for the trial so that Dinklage can get his Emmy and 20 minutes for the denouement.
  12. anamika

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Like come on. Sansa's plot for three seasons now has been about her wanting to rule the North instead of Jon and that can only happen if he's gone. Tyrion even tells this to her. She plotted to destroy Jon's life after knowing that Jon loves Dany and that he does not want the Iron Throne. Why in the world would she be sad about Jon going away? Or Bran and Arya for that matter? Her brother is King of Westeros, giving her more power - which is all she is interested in as per the show. This is what she has been working towards and she got it. Tyrion and Sansa have sweet endings. So do Jaime and Cersei - finally finding peace with each other at the very end. Arya also gets a good one - no more killing and revenge and she is going off on adventures. The only character who does not get a happy ending is the visionary who wanted to save slaves and change the world and ended up going mad because of some bells and has to be put down by her lover.
  13. anamika

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Don't forget Sansa. Constantly keeps betraying her brother and faces no consequences for her actions. Sansa is also secretly an expert molecular biologist. She stole some of Dany's cells from her Starbuck's coffee cup and did some research and discovered that the gene for Targaryen madness was going to be activated very soon. Hence her constant hostility. I agree with Arya right now. Sansa is like the smartest person in Westeros. Right at the start of season 7 she told Jon that the existential zombie threat was not going to be a big deal and that their final antagonist was going to be Cersei. Did Idiot Jon listen to this genius sister? No. As soon as Sansa saw Dany, she could immediately tell that Dany was going to go mad and raze KL to the ground. I think the twist or the third 'holy shit' moment is that Sansa is the real 3ER who could see all the future season 8 plots and tried to warn everyone else. But no one listened. Sad.
  14. anamika

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    https://ew.com/tv/2019/05/12/game-thrones-cersei-kings-landing-battle-interview/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app I remember Emilia Clarke giving an interview on how this season was an exploration of power and how Cersei had lost everything because she desired power and whether Dany really wanted that. And we never got any of that on the show. There was no exploration of power. Dany just went mad after hearing bells. I remember David and Dan talking about an interesting scene coming up between Jon and Cersei this season in their DVD commentary. And that did not happen. No Cersei miscarriage as well. I guess whatever Kit and possibly Emilia shot in Dubrovnik is next episode. Lena confirms that Jaime and Cersei really loved each other till the very end and that Brienne was just a temporary side fling for Jaime to realize that the only person he truly loved is Cersei.
  15. anamika

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    D&D either really hate Jon as a character or Kit or they are terribly writers. I do think that Arya will have a role in defeating the Others in the books. Her character is heavily involved in the magical/fantastical elements of the books and her character is closely connected to the North, weirwoods and warging. But the thing is that in the books, characters are not restricted to just one plot/arc - they are multifaceted, complex, change and adapt to the situations around them. By the time we get to book 5, Jon is more involved in the Northern politics and plot than with the story of the Others/AOTD. He is busy plotting and strategizing with Stannis against the Boltons, conferring with mountain clans, playing the game against the Karstarks, there's a will that makes him KITN and he finally basically destroys the NW as an institution by going to war against Ramsay to save his sister. Jon's very politically savvy knowing the ins and outs of the Northern houses. The battle of the bastard in the books is most likely going to be a straightforward battle between Jon and Ramsay considering there are going to be direwolves involved - not a showcasing of how Sansa is now a 'boss-ass bitch' like on the show and had to help poor idiot Jon out. D&D on the other hand restricted Jon solely to the NK/AOTD plot, turning him into a political dunce/idiot and gave over the Ramsay/North plot to Sansa - because her book story in the Vale was not that interesting to them and they openly stated how Sansa is their favorite character and they wanted her to have a more important role on the show. Okay fine. At least Jon still has the AOTD/NK story right? No actually. They had to justify Arya's 2 season FM arc and had to subvert expectations, so Arya was going to take out the NK and let's finish off the AOTD in an episode and make that entire plot irrelevant and all Jon gets to do is swing around a sword. Jon was ultimately wrong about this threat and the humans fighting against each other was more important. He was a bad military strategist on the show because as per D&D all his plans had to fail otherwise it would be 'kinda dull' in their own words. What about Jon's parentage? R+L=J? PTWP? Howland Reed, Lyanna and Ned? Is any of this important for Jon as a character? No, all that is only relevant in so far as to make Dany paranoid about Jon even though noble, unambitious idiot Jon tells her he is not interested in the throne. Any of his relationships that GRRM build up in the books important? lol, no. Arya is now Sansa's best buddy and basically told Jon that Sansa's family and he better watch out or else. Ghost? Does not even get a hug because who cares. Dany? Don't really know because it's so badly written and rushed. They basically stripped book Jon of his characterization, story, plot, narrative themes, everything and reduced him to a plot device for other characters. By the end, it was Sansa who was making all the decisions up North and doling out military advice while Jon just stood there like a dunce. He ultimately did nothing, achieved nothing and contributed nothing to his own story on the show. An absolute waste of a character.
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