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In the Angelique thread, I mentioned that I felt human Barnabas was a creep who used the maid, then tosses her aside for a "proper lady". I know the show eventually wanted me to see Barnabas as a hero, but I just couldn't. He was always about his rich family, and he did horrible things to people whom he considered lesser with the excuse that it was for the benefit of his family.

The storyline that made me hate him the most was the Jekyll and Hyde storyline, when he set Buffy Harrington (?) up to be repeatedly raped and beaten in order to get information. On top of the torture he forced her to endure at the Hyde character's hand, Barnabas himself terrorized her. But she was poor and her name wasn't Collins, so this was okay to him. He was never a hero to me. He was always a rich, spoiled predator.

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16 hours ago, azshadowwalker said:

I always thought Barnabas was a creep. He screws the maid while awaiting his acceptable "lady", then tosses the maid aside. Rich dude who used women even when he was human.

I agree.  And he seemed to feel entitled to a younger woman.  Though I think he was supposed to be younger than JF looked.  His sister was only 10.   Though he did do right by Vicky in the end.  

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That's the question, isn't it? I mean, Julia had a thing for him, and she was obviously older than the very young women he stalked. She seemed to be from Elizabeth and Roger's generation. Yet, he ran after the ingenue time and again. Angelique's true age was unknown, but even she looked too young for him. 

I seem to remember that Frid felt the same way. He mentioned that Julia was the proper love interest for Barnabas because of the age.  He didn't care for the pairings with very young women. So, he seemed to have played Barnabas as an older man. 

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I have been watching the pre-Barnabas episodes again. I am always shocked at just how much I hate him, especially wrt the way he treats David. David shouldn't have bothered trying to sabotage his dad's car. He should have killed that dude in his sleep. I am sure Aunt Elizabeth would have understood. The only person who would have cared was Carolyn, because she was as nasty and self-involved as Uncle Roger. 

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Julia had to have a thing for him for motive purposes.  During the period where she was trying her cure, it could have been a combination of that and medical/scientific curiosity that kept her from staking him in the day!! He was so mean and ungrateful during that time!  Her experiment failed because he made her do it before she was ready - what a terrible patient/client, lol!

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I just watched an episode last night where Carolyn mentioned that David drowned his pet cat when they lived in Augusta. The kid wasn't stable, but I think his parents were to blame, especially his dad. I mean, Roger was killing people and framing others, running around partying, and generally acting like a spoiled brat when he and Laura were together. I think he was always mean. Edmonds did a fantastic job depicting a total creep.

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16 hours ago, Ubiquitous said:

Decades is going to be playing eps on Monday, June 27th, for the show's 50th anniversary.

It's too bad they don't get past the episode where Barnabas & Dr. Hoffman are searching for the diary with the notes about Barnabas. Both times Decades stops at the same point and I'm dying to know what happens. LOL!!! I didn't watch DS in its original run and want the story to continue. 

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On ‎6‎/‎5‎/‎2016 at 10:59 AM, Kim0820 said:

Been watching up to Season 11 on Hulu - where do people get the rest? 

I watched this as a child in 3rd grade - fortunately that seems to have been Seasons 9 and 10 or so.  I saw the air dates and was surprised.  I remember watching it but thought I must have been about 10 or so.  Anyway as a 3rd grader, I watched the 1795 story.  I remember Victoria being accused of being a witch and being hanged.  I may have continued through the summer and Fall as I remember Adam, but must have stopped soon after, as I don't remember Eve or Nicholas really.  

Hulu added more seasons now. They do it so slowly. They have the rest of the Quentin/Beth ghost storyline and some of the 1897 story. 1897 was always my favorite.

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On ‎7‎/‎22‎/‎2014 at 3:44 PM, Collinwood said:

I thought it was sad that Willie never got his own love interest.  At least not in "regular" time.  In Parallel Time William Loomis was married to Carolyn, but clearly that was not the same guy.  I suppose Willie had to remain unattached so he could be available whenever Barnabas or Dr. Hoffman needed him to kidnap someone or drive to Bangor and purchase medical supplies.

I agree 100%. I would have liked to see Maggie with Willie. He always cared for her.

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There were still mentions of his threatening behavior towards Carolyn after the switch. It was one of the reasons Liz wanted him gone. Frankly, considering the risk he posed to her daughter, Liz allowing Jason to threaten her to keep him around was gross. She would rather her daughter be stalked, threatened and possibly raped than have her find out about her father. 

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Years ago, I happened across the movie Savages, which was made in 1972. Apparently, NODS was filmed in the same town. So, Thayer David and Chris Pennock ended up in it. It's a really strange movie, part of it being b/w and silent. I was watching the episodes where Thayer David plays Matthew, and started thinking of this movie. Would love to see it again.

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I am watching the Phoenix storyline right now. The only reason I'm not totally on Laura's side is because I know what happens. On the other hand, I am really disgusted with Liz because I know what happens with her, too. If I had watched this as it aired, I would dislike Liz even more. I think she is a snob who never liked Laura. I also think Roger is right. She does want possession of David because she's hung up on having a male heir, and she wants to push his mother out of his life. Considering that she thinks she has a dead body in the basement, that she knows full well that Roger killed that man, that she hasn't left the estate in almost 20 years, and that she's made a mess with her own daughter, her self-righteous attitude towards Laura is laughable. If she actually knew what was up with Laura, it would be one thing. She doesn't, though, so it's very telling that she wants to dictate his relationship with his mother. She hardly gives the boy a safe or stable home, either.

Carolyn, who couldn't care less about David, trying to insert herself into the situation because she's so jealous of Laura. She doesn't care what she does to a small child because of her obsession with Burke. She is just an awful person.

Vicky is a failure as a governess, too. Who gives a disturbed little boy a creepy picture of his mother engulfed in flames? All of these people are awful. No wonder David is bordering on sociopathy.

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31 minutes ago, azshadowwalker said:

Using Carolyn to get at her uncle is despicable. 

Roger was pretty despicable, but it wasn't Carolyn's fault.  I didn't like Anthony George as Mitch, but I thought he was good as Jeremiah.  That was a very weird time in the show.  I don't want to spoil you if you haven't seen the episodes before. 

On ‎6‎/‎8‎/‎2016 at 3:11 AM, azshadowwalker said:

In the Angelique thread, I mentioned that I felt human Barnabas was a creep who used the maid, then tosses her aside for a "proper lady". I know the show eventually wanted me to see Barnabas as a hero, but I just couldn't. He was always about his rich family, and he did horrible things to people whom he considered lesser with the excuse that it was for the benefit of his family.

The storyline that made me hate him the most was the Jekyll and Hyde storyline, when he set Buffy Harrington (?) up to be repeatedly raped and beaten in order to get information. On top of the torture he forced her to endure at the Hyde character's hand, Barnabas himself terrorized her. But she was poor and her name wasn't Collins, so this was okay to him. He was never a hero to me. He was always a rich, spoiled predator.

Interesting. I always felt that was about Quentin. He was always yelling at the women of DS. On a recent re-watch, I had to walk away for a couple of weeks. It got to me that much.

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I felt the same way about Quentin. I think Barnabas bothers me more because the torment he inflicted on others was depicted as heroic. Quentin was softened from his introduction as the manipulative drunk who locked his wife away, but I never felt that they made him the hero of the piece. But he was an evil bastard, too. 

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On 7/6/2016 at 5:42 PM, atomationage said:

Roger was pretty despicable, but it wasn't Carolyn's fault.  I didn't like Anthony George as Mitch, but I thought he was good as Jeremiah.  That was a very weird time in the show.  I don't want to spoil you if you haven't seen the episodes before. 

I do not blame Carolyn for that, although I do blame her for being a general asshole. As for spoilage, I have seen every episode at least half a dozen times and used to have all of them recorded on VHS from the Sci-Fi run. I still weep that I lost those tapes when I couldn't afford storage fees anymore. 

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On 10/23/2016 at 0:51 PM, atomationage said:

I did the DECADES "Quiz, which Dark Shadows character are you?" and I'm Dr. Julia Hoffman, according to that.   I recently acquired the first 108 episodes.  I wonder if DECADES is starting from the actual beginning episodes, or the beginning of Barnabas.

From what I've read - albeit on Facebook, which is not the most reliable of sources - they'll start this time with episode 251, when Maggie was kidnapped by Barnabas. 

I'd like to see the 1795 episodes on Decades sometime. I think giving new viewers a look at Barnabas' background would attract even more viewers and more interest in the show. 

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I started watching at noon central time.  DECADES is channel 2.2 on the antenna tv in Chicagoland.  I'm having trouble with the reception, but they started out with Maggie Evans trying to stake Barnabas, then Willie is trying to save her, then Victoria comes over.  Then I lost reception.  It's like living with tv reception in 1967.

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The first appearance of Sarah singing London Bridge is Falling Down to Maggie in her dungeon.  Then Sarah meeting David. 

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