jsbt December 11, 2016 Share December 11, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said: JFP worked hard to integrate SBu's character into Y&R. But all of it failed. He's never fit. I think the new creative team - which has gone on record as saying they hate most of the last ten years - had no use for him, and I think Steve was less keen on not being Jill's star as well. Edited December 11, 2016 by jsbt 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2820703
Darklazr December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 5 hours ago, LeftPhalange said: JFP worked hard to integrate SBu's character into Y&R. He's the long lost son of two legacy characters, a pseudo member of a core family, and the current husband of a core character. I'm sure he would've continued to have a role if he wanted it, and I doubt his prominence would've lessened that much. Maybe he's just tired of playing this very dull character FV has worked just as hard to integrate Todd, Franco, Silas, McBain, Starr, Kiki, Phyliss, etc,, and they can all take a flying leap off my TV screen. I want to see the legacy and core characters from Scotty, Jeff, Tom Hardy, Sean and Tiffany, etc... and not some folks shoehorned like HateChel onto the show. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2821144
Badsamaritan December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 Y'all, I've been seeing around the Twitter and the Insta that our Brydog and Second Kelly have broken up. I haven't seen confirmation from either yet.....do we need to start a prayer circle? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2825423
ulkis December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Badsamaritan said: Y'all, I've been seeing around the Twitter and the Insta that our Brydog and Second Kelly have broken up. I haven't seen confirmation from either yet.....do we need to start a prayer circle? I don't know. :sob: Maybe they've just matured and don't like talking about each other and putting up each other's pictures on social media constantly anymore. Right??? . . . Right . . . 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2825661
dubbel zout December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 LOVE IS DEAD. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2825718
tvfanatic13 December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 On 12/8/2016 at 0:47 AM, ulkis said: Best Frenemies : Monic/Tracy Best Shorterm Comeback: Jax, Robin Best use of History: Valentin We hardly knew ye: Joe Who the heck is Joe? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2826189
magnolia11 December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, tvfanatic13 said: Who the heck is Joe? Carlos' twin brother who was around for about five seconds and then promptly left town with the Carlos/Sabrina baby. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2826224
tvfanatic13 December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 ^^ Oh right. LOL Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2826283
dubbel zout December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 It cracks me up that Michael has all but forgotten Joe, a baby he was willing to raise as his own. Not that I'm sad Joe is gone, but it was kind of a big deal at the time. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2826323
Melgaypet December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 I thought the baby was named Teddy? But, yes, your point stands. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2826392
ulkis December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 It was Teddy. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2826396
ulkis December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 http://www.tvinsider.com/article/105378/the-best-in-soaps-2016-the-bold-and-the-beautiful-shines/ Michael Logan's best/worst list. This interview with Don Harvey (Tom) is pretty good. Amusing that he played a punk rocker on daytime more than once lol. http://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/meet-ghs-don-harvey/ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2827243
jsbt December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 Please, please, please bring me confirmation of Brydog and Second Kelly breaking it off. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2827384
tvgoddess December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 Nah, I want them together for comic relief purposes. I miss laughing at Brydog's tweets/IG's. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2827477
Ambrosefolly December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 Quote As Hayden Barnes, the daughter of a Bernie Madoff–type con man who screwed thousands, Budig went from Port Charles pariah to romantic heroine in a fizzy, sexy transformation that’s simply intoxicating. Even Tracy Q (Jane Elliot), the town curmudgeon who pretty much hates everything and everybody, loves Hayden. That’s saying something. It says FV and Jelly really wants to make this character work. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2827499
TeeVee329 December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 Has Rebecca Budig really become a "romantic heroine"? Maybe she's slightly less of a bitchy nympho than she used to be, but I'm seeing less of a transformation and more of the same shades of Green(lee). But of all the stories/characters/actors Michael Logan could have put on his list, I'm relatively okay with her. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2827841
ulkis December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 Bryan returns on twitter to ask people to weigh in with their thoughts: Bryan Craig @bryan_craig Everyone should go here and vote, comment " yes or no". https://instagram.com/p/BOAfk2_hJcY/ if you can't click on the link - it's "would you like Bryan Craig to return to GH as Morgan" 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2829045
dubbel zout December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 I guess a certain Daytime-Emmy-winning actor is finding out it's not as easy to get a job as he thought. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2829051
ulkis December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 Now I have Ronn Moss in my head singing "Bryan stay back!" in place of "Baby come back!" 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2829067
ulkis December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 46 minutes ago, dubbel zout said: I guess a certain Daytime-Emmy-winning actor is finding out it's not as easy to get a job as he thought. Someone said he was talking on snapchat about becoming an instagram model, so I went to check out the veracity of the statement. This is what he said: "Kay I'm not one to post shit I eat, but I've eaten the same thing for like a week and uh, I'm getting really sick of it [bunch of spinach, quinoa, carrots on the table]. No in all seriousness I'm training to become an instagram model, so, I hear there's more money in that. I honestly think I could do it. I mean, you just gotta eat really healthy and work out way too much and take pictures like half naked on shit that's not yours. Like houses and yachts and sports cars and, you know. Just shit that's obviously not yours." Kelly doesn't pop at all. He also gave kind of a huff after he said he was training how to be a model, so I thought maybe he was kinda laughing and not really meaning it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2829228
dubbel zout December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 I think he means it but he's acting like he doesn't so he can gauge what people think of it. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2829258
tvgoddess December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 I don't even know what to say. I had heard some rumblings, but I dismissed them as reading too much into things. Now this? Hard not to read into it. Unless they're going to revert Avery's parentage, and rewrite him entirely, he can stay the fuck away. In other random news, I didn't even know they were dating! http://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/gh-alum-engaged-4/ 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2829558
ulkis December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 1 hour ago, tvgoddess said: I don't even know what to say. I had heard some rumblings, but I dismissed them as reading too much into things. Now this? Hard not to read into it. Unless they're going to revert Avery's parentage, and rewrite him entirely, he can stay the fuck away. In other random news, I didn't even know they were dating! http://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/gh-alum-engaged-4/ Sloane and Carrie Ann Inaba? How random, heh. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2829832
jsbt December 14, 2016 Share December 14, 2016 4 hours ago, ulkis said: Hide contents if you can't click on the link - it's "would you like Bryan Craig to return to GH as Morgan" That is hilarious. 4 hours ago, ulkis said: "Kay I'm not one to post shit I eat, but I've eaten the same thing for like a week and uh, I'm getting really sick of it [bunch of spinach, quinoa, carrots on the table]. No in all seriousness I'm training to become an instagram model, so, I hear there's more money in that. I honestly think I could do it. I mean, you just gotta eat really healthy and work out way too much and take pictures like half naked on shit that's not yours. Like houses and yachts and sports cars and, you know. Just shit that's obviously not yours." Immortality 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2829936
Darklazr December 15, 2016 Share December 15, 2016 23 hours ago, Ambrosefolly said: It says FV and Jelly really wants to make this character work. FV shelled out contracts and he will make HateChel, Franco and Nina work no matter what! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2830061
HeatLifer December 15, 2016 Share December 15, 2016 LMAO. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2832972
Ambrosefolly December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 On 12/13/2016 at 8:44 PM, ulkis said: http://www.tvinsider.com/article/105378/the-best-in-soaps-2016-the-bold-and-the-beautiful-shines/ Michael Logan's best/worst list. This interview with Don Harvey (Tom) is pretty good. Amusing that he played a punk rocker on daytime more than once lol. http://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/meet-ghs-don-harvey/ I will give the list one thing: I don't watch B&B and maybe CBS shells out money for that soap, but the few times I caught B&B, it didn't look completely joyless and ugly. I don't know a wit about storylines, but it looks so glossy and glamorous. Maybe limited to a half hour helps with production. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2833407
ulkis December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 https://mobile.twitter.com/nathanvarni/status/809614711746535424 Caption this: the GH cast and crew holiday party. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2833675
HeatLifer December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 I hope they're all watching Franco and Tom scenes. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2833689
tvgoddess December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 1 hour ago, ulkis said: https://mobile.twitter.com/nathanvarni/status/809614711746535424 Caption this: the GH cast and crew holiday party. Good lord, are they in someone's basement? Way to loosen the purse strings, Frank. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2833801
Sake614 December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 Heads up: Due to President Obama’s end-of-the-year address, a new episode of GH will not be shown on Friday, December 16. As compensation, instead of airing a repeat on Friday, December 23, a new episode will air, so fans won’t miss a thing. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834750
tvgoddess December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 Ah, well. I was a fan of the actress until well, this year. I'll just leave it at that. And who the hell does Frank think he's fooling? Can't say who she'll be playing? See my eyeroll. http://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/tonja-walker-returns-gh/ 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834781
OnceSane December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 13 hours ago, ulkis said: https://mobile.twitter.com/nathanvarni/status/809614711746535424 Caption this: the GH cast and crew holiday party. They never saw the saw blade coming… 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834814
HeatLifer December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 Eh. I really think this story is trash, so she won't help. Ava and OJ on-screen at the same time also sounds nauseating. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834817
TeeVee329 December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 15 minutes ago, tvgoddess said: Can't say who she'll be playing? See my eyeroll. http://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/tonja-walker-returns-gh/ He did the same thing when Sean Kanan came back. "Maybe he's AJ, maybe he's not!". Just...stop. I'm torn. I did love TW as Alex Olanov on OLTL, but if she is playing Olivia Jerome, that character is just so redundant. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834828
HeatLifer December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, TeeVee329 said: I'm torn. I did love TW as Alex Olanov on OLTL, but if she is playing Olivia Jerome, that character is just so redundant. That's exactly my thing. This is adding a character that's more of the same. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834839
TeeVee329 December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 (edited) Seriously. We already have Ava and Julian, what does Olivia offer that they don't? ETA...does Olivia have history with Lucy? Edited December 16, 2016 by TeeVee329 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834848
tvgoddess December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 (edited) I mean, it would be worth it if they all banded together to pull a Jerome coup and take down Sonny for good. But we know that's obviously never going to happen. So it's pretty pointless. I'm guessing she'll be a limited stay a la BW. Quote ETA...does Olivia have history with Lucy? Doesn't she have history with Anna because of yeah, I won't say it. Edited December 16, 2016 by tvgoddess 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834850
TeeVee329 December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 Just looking for a silver lining. If Olivia creates some kind of story for Lucy besides flogging real estate, I'd appreciate that least. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834874
HeatLifer December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said: Seriously. We already have Ava and Julian, what does Olivia offer that they don't? ETA...does Olivia have history with Lucy? Her dad was obsessed with Lucy. Robin found his dead body, lol. Olivia was obsessed with Duke. She was the reason Anna lost their baby. 1 minute ago, TeeVee329 said: Just looking for a silver lining. If Olivia creates some kind of story for Lucy besides flogging real estate, I'd appreciate that least. I doubt she'll be really involved with Lucy. She'll come back for Julian (he killed her) and Anna. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834878
ulkis December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 http://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/icymi-ghs-maurice-benard-gets-personal/ Digest: Sonny’s facing the possibility of going to jail now because of how Morgan died. Do you think he feels like that’s what he deserves? Benard: Oh, yeah. He feels like, if he doesn’t kill himself, he can at least go to prison. All these fans who go, “Oh, Sonny has never paid for his lifestyle, for his crimes,” well, that’s why I’m doing this acting. For them. So that they can know that Sonny is suffering. So, all those people going, “He doesn’t pay, he doesn’t pay,” well, what are you gonna say now? u ok mo? 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834930
Chairperson Meow December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 24 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said: Seriously. We already have Ava and Julian, what does Olivia offer that they don't? ETA...does Olivia have history with Lucy? Someone new for Sonny to bang on AJ's grave or Julian's after he murders him. Or possibly on Julian's dead body. I give it like a month before they're in bed. Sonny has been without Carly for too long. Just now, ulkis said: http://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/icymi-ghs-maurice-benard-gets-personal/ Digest: Sonny’s facing the possibility of going to jail now because of how Morgan died. Do you think he feels like that’s what he deserves? Benard: Oh, yeah. He feels like, if he doesn’t kill himself, he can at least go to prison. All these fans who go, “Oh, Sonny has never paid for his lifestyle, for his crimes,” well, that’s why I’m doing this acting. For them. So that they can know that Sonny is suffering. So, all those people going, “He doesn’t pay, he doesn’t pay,” well, what are you gonna say now? u ok mo? He should have paid when he murdered that dude and then tried to hide the recording, but got pardoned? You know, AJ? Or at least admit that murdering him was wrong and not be a total tool about it to this day, perhaps. Like, learn something. Just a touch of character growth might be nice. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834934
TeeVee329 December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, ulkis said: well, what are you gonna say now? That Sonny was in jail for about two seconds before he found out he wasn't responsible for Morgan's death? That, really, Sonny should still be in jail paying for AJ's murder? 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834944
tvgoddess December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, ulkis said: http://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/icymi-ghs-maurice-benard-gets-personal/ Digest: Sonny’s facing the possibility of going to jail now because of how Morgan died. Do you think he feels like that’s what he deserves? Benard: Oh, yeah. He feels like, if he doesn’t kill himself, he can at least go to prison. All these fans who go, “Oh, Sonny has never paid for his lifestyle, for his crimes,” well, that’s why I’m doing this acting. For them. So that they can know that Sonny is suffering. So, all those people going, “He doesn’t pay, he doesn’t pay,” well, what are you gonna say now? u ok mo? Ugh, he's such an ass. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834957
HeatLifer December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 You can tell Mo is over playing Sonny and Carly romantically. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834962
ulkis December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 He sounds so weird in this interview. Digest: Sonny has two surviving sons, Dante and Michael. How do you see his relationships with them at this stage? Benard: Michael’s a traitor. He hates me, boy — [adopts sneering tone] “My dad, my dad!” But Dante’s cool; he’s coming around. I love Dominic [Zamprogna, Dante]. I love Chad [Duell, Michael], too, I’m just joking about Michael. They’re both great. All my kids are great! Digest: As if Sonny doesn’t have enough to worry about, all of a sudden, Jax is back in the mix. Benard: I love Ingo [Rademacher]. We’re friends and he’s kind of funny, so we laugh and do Snapchats. As characters, though, we just hate each other. Sonny hates him! I did a scene today where I talked about him like I wanted to tear his head off! But me and Ingo, we’re so far from that. Michael's a jerk! Jax is a jerk! But I love Chad and Ingo! Alright, if he's worried about people thinking he hates Chad and Ingo he needs to lay off jokes that can't be interpreted properly in print. I don't know if the weirdness is him or Soap Opera Digest or what. 4 minutes ago, HeatLifer said: You can tell Mo is over playing Sonny and Carly romantically. I mean, he was never under them, as Ross Gellar said, for as long as LW has been playing Carly at least. I don't think either of them like romantic Carly and Sonny but went along with it because there weren't really any other options at the moment. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834976
dubbel zout December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 34 minutes ago, tvgoddess said: I'm guessing she'll be a limited stay a la BW. If she truly is in and out, that might work. But I agree she's not necessary. 11 minutes ago, ulkis said: Benard: Oh, yeah. He feels like, if he doesn’t kill himself, he can at least go to prison. All these fans who go, “Oh, Sonny has never paid for his lifestyle, for his crimes,” well, that’s why I’m doing this acting. For them. So that they can know that Sonny is suffering. So, all those people going, “He doesn’t pay, he doesn’t pay,” well, what are you gonna say now? I'm gonna say Sonny still doesn't pay for his crimes. Oh, he plays the martyr/victim extremely well, but 9/10 times Sonny is found innocent or not directly responsible anyway. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2834996
HeatLifer December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, ulkis said: I mean, he was never under them, as Ross Gellar said, for as long as LW has been playing Carly at least. I don't think either of them like romantic Carly and Sonny but went along with it because there weren't really any other options at the moment. I don't think Sonny is a character who needs a love interest, TBH. It always amazed me that they had to attach him to someone. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2835018
ulkis December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 (edited) 12 minutes ago, HeatLifer said: I don't think Sonny is a character who needs a love interest, TBH. It always amazed me that they had to attach him to someone. Or at least, a serious love interest. But they always treated all of them like they were the Next Big Thing. And now "I love you" is worth nothing coming out of Sonny's mouth as a result. But yeah, you'd think he'd have enough going on that he wouldn't have to have a constant parade of love interests as well. Edited December 16, 2016 by ulkis 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2835058
HeatLifer December 16, 2016 Share December 16, 2016 Just now, ulkis said: Or at least, a serious love interest. But they always treated all of them like they were the Next Big Thing. And now "I love you" is worth nothing coming out of Sonny's mouth as a result. They always treated the current chick like she was the love of his life. Every one of his relationships became meaningless. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/279/#findComment-2835072
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