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[millennium]

I would also recommend this:

Joe Scarborough as the new Ted Cruz.   How often has Scarborough lambasted Cruz for bowing to Trump after Trump ridiculed his wife?

Edited December 6 by millennium

[millennium]

Let's keep the schadenfreude going.   From Steve Schmidt:

https://steveschmidt.substack.com/p/morning-fear-at-morning-joe?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

[SeanBug]

2 hours ago, millennium said:

Let's keep the schadenfreude going.   From Steve Schmidt:

https://steveschmidt.substack.com/p/morning-fear-at-morning-joe?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Holy Shit. 

I notice this morning they've moved on to Tulsi Gabbard. 

Joe is interviewing Bill Clinton?  Considering Bill writes in his new book he didn't sleep for 2 years after Trump was elected the first time, and Joe is the new Ass Kisser of the Trump Administration that should be good. 

I can't figure out if the capitulation is coming from TPTB or just a mandate on the show.  

Either way it's disgusting. 

9 hours ago, millennium said:

I just watched the 20-minute rant ... well, the first 15 minutes at least.   That's all I could stand.   Having been away from the show for almost a month, I have become verbose intolerant.

It was like an infomercial by a cheating husband.  I cheated for the good of our marriage!   Where do you get off being hurt or upset?  I'm not the villain here.  I was just trying to do right by you.  I thought you were mature enough to understand that.   Instead you're all "boo-hoo, my husband betrayed me."  Grow up!  You have no justification -- none! -- for being hurt or upset.   My God, has the whole world lost its mind?

In his all-caps voice, Scarborough threw David Frum under the bus and offered his "very dear friend" a non-apology: "I'm sorry if I made David uncomfortable ..."  He ridiculed George Conway complete with a mocking George Conway "voice."  He fell back on a false distinction between campaign Trump and President Trump -- "we said he was sounding like a fascist, and he did -- during the campaign!"   He confused himself with actual reporters, imagining some parallel universe where he's called out of bed at night to confer off-the-record with world leaders.    He channeled Mental Geller when insisting he would run the show "the way I want to because it's my show!"  "MY SHOW!"   In Scarborough's world view, all of his critics, including people he sees at Thanksgiving, are wrong and he and Mika are the true victims.  To make his point, Scarborough said he called the news desks of the New York Times, the Washington Post AND David Frum's own employer The Atlantic to ask if THEY would ever publish what Frum said!  He also tried to insert a big hmmm by noting he invited David Frum to come back and discuss, and Frum said he'd be here today, and he was supposed to be here today, because he told us he'd be here today, but obviously he's not here today, and now he's saying he'll be here on Friday when I'll be on assignment talking to Bill Clinton and unable to discuss this whole matter with David Frum.  Everybody -- everybody! -- criticizing them for Mika's on-air apology (which by the way was NOT an apology, NOT an apology) or who says their fearful visit to the the Court of Maralago (which was NOT fearful, I am NOT fearful, ask anybody at the network if I am fearful, go on, ask, I dare you) was a betrayal of their viewers, well, all of this is their fault.

He could have saved everybody 20 minutes and just posted his screed on Truth Social.   It would have been right at home.

 

 

 

Joe sounds more like Trump every day. Next thing we know Mika will be speaking with an Eastern European accent and wearing a coat with "I don't care, do you?" spray painted on the back. 

[SeanBug]

4 hours ago, millennium said:

I would also recommend this:

Joe Scarborough as the new Ted Cruz.   How often has Scarborough lambasted Cruz for bowing to Trump after Trump ridiculed his wife?

If it took this moment for the woman on the right to lose respect for Mika, I have to question her ability to assess a person.  Mika has done NOTHING for anyone but Mika. 

The other woman is spot on. She is calling it like it is. They are disgusting opportunists. 

As far as worrying about saying something about Hegseth being a drunk, there is so much footage of him talking about being drunk, a good attorney would have a lawsuit dismissed in deposition. 

Joe screaming about talking to world leaders is terrifying. And I've been rewatching a Stephen King miniseries "The Outsider". The stuff of nightmares. 

Millennium thanks for posting this!

 

Edited December 6 by SeanBug

[Prairie Rose]

I have to admit that I had never heard of her before all this.

 

[SeanBug]

Was just reminded of Mika's response to David Frum, claiming it was not fear, but civility. 

So what exactly would we call Joe screaming at critics and viewers yesterday?  

Rude? Discourteous?  Bullying? Unhinged? 

What Joe is reminding me of, with his constant attacks on anything he disagrees with recently, is a cornered animal striking out at any perceived or imagined threat to its well being. 

Author of the article I read checked social media and other sites. Pretty unanimous calls for them to be fired. 

MSNBC does realize the only people watching are the few who check in for a minute to see what new insanity is occurring. 

Edited December 6 by SeanBug

[Kemper]

MJ has been a very bad, poorly written, terribly hosted soap opera lately. Well, more than lately. But now it is bizarro land. Almost like a spoof of a soap opera. Mary Hartman Mary Hartman. Anyone remember that?

[ebk57]

I can't believe no one mentioned the most important story they broke this week...

 

And the whole segment because I know everyone is interested.  And so I'll remember to come back here so I can actually watch it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oh-mary-set-actor-reins-150122725.html

 

 

[millennium]

7 hours ago, SeanBug said:

MSNBC does realize the only people watching are the few who check in for a minute to see what new insanity is occurring. 

Nope, that's what mediaite is for.

[Albanyguy]

It was just announced that, beginning on January 6th, Jonathan Lemire will be leaving "Way Too Early" and joining "Morning Joe" as a permanent co-host. Ali Vitali will take over hosting "Way Too Early".

Edited December 9 by Albanyguy

[KayVeeTeeVee]

2 hours ago, Albanyguy said:

It was just announced that, beginning on January 6th, Jonathan Lemire will be leaving "Way Too Early" and joining "Morning Joe" as a permanent co-host. Ali Vitali will take over hosting "Way Too Early".

Where is Jonathan going? 

[Kemper]

Just when I thought I was through seeing Adrienne Elrod...she turns up. Her voice is nails-on-a-chalkboard.  And Meeka is sighing more than usual today. So... same show, same regulars and guests, same bombast from Joe, same faces, same discussion,  Click.

 

Edited December 10 by Kemper

[Albanyguy]

13 hours ago, KayVeeTeeVee said:

Where is Jonathan going? 

He’s going to be a permanent co-host on Morning Joe. 

[Prairie Rose]

36 minutes ago, Albanyguy said:

He’s going to be a permanent co-host on Morning Joe. 

Might as well, he's there all the time anyway!! 😉

[SeanBug]

If you're feeling down about political/world news coverage, check out last night's Daily Show. 

No finger pointing or "starting dialogues with maniacs", or ranting about whatever Joe's  pissed off about today.  What? Alabama ranked lower than my Hoosiers? Oh no!! 🤣

Opening monologue of TDS was one of the best in weeks. 

Jon had Ben Wikler, head of Wisconsin Democratic party on. This guy knows his shit. He took a solid red state in 2010 and got a Democratic majority.  Flipped seats in districts that were so gerrymandered it wasn't funny. He's running to head DNC. 

I'm sure if Joe had him on, he'd take credit for everything Ben says and does. "I did the same thing back when I was Gingrich's toady!!!" 

[SeanBug]

Joe thinks laws that allow homelessness are the same as the underfunding of mental health care for them? 

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/joe-scarborough-slams-progressives-for-passing-laws-that-allow-homelessness-in-reaction-to-daniel-penny-verdict/

Yes, we need to help people who are in need. No doubt about it. But there are two types of homeless people. I don't want to sound cruel, but there are people who have become homeless due to economic or domestic issues beyond their control. And there are people who actually choose to live this way. A friend told me her husband's company took coats and blankets to a homeless camp here in town. They offered to help the men find jobs but were turned down because "we don't need to work, people bring us stuff and give us food and money all the time". 

Of course Joe would blame "progressives" for an issue that his hero Ronald Reagan helped cause. Ronald Reagan stopped federal funding of mental health clinics that led directly to this issue. 

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2023/04/24/heres-how-reagans-decision-to-close-mental-institutions-led-to-the-homelessness-crisis/

FFS Joe. Again it takes so little effort to prove you are full of shit, it's getting boring.  Progressives didn't stop funding mental health clinics and institutions. YOUR GUY DID! 

What those laws in LA and NYC did was not make it a crime to be homeless.  But if you want to help homeless people, maybe you and Blondie can donate to build more shelters, etc. Or lobby Congress. You know so much about Congress, get off your ass and do something. 

[Kemper]

3 hours ago, Albanyguy said:

He’s going to be a permanent co-host on Morning Joe. 

Of course he is. So..a permanent co-host - does that mean that one of The Twins is leaving? 

[Lowcountry snark]

7 minutes ago, Kemper said:

Of course he is. So..a permanent co-host - does that mean that one of The Twins is leaving? 

This is what I think.  There can't be three hosts.  This almost surely signals a change, and it coincides with Comcast spinning off their news outlets. 

[Kemper]

When you think about LeMire being a permanent co-host - isn't that what he or Willy  have been doing since Show expanded to four 😱 hours. A lot of the time Joe disappears for quite awhile. And Meeka cannot handle a good bit of the topics and people discussed on her own .

And when did MJ turn into a place where celebrities seem to be on more than they used to be. The show-biz kind. I would rather listen to the same authors who are constantly pushing their books. Constantly.

[chick binewski]

On 12/6/2024 at 3:17 AM, millennium said:

Let's keep the schadenfreude going.   From Steve Schmidt:

https://steveschmidt.substack.com/p/morning-fear-at-morning-joe?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Holy crap indeed. A producer warning a guest twice and an apology to Fox "news"? What the hell?

When Lemire was announced as MJ co-host back in October, the release stated it would be for the 9AM hour. Axios also mentioned Lemire was the rare cable news host who did not have to take a pay cut. I'm choosing to be hopeful about this bc in my head if MSNBC is actually paying Lemire and giving him a more prominent MJ role (after trying to kill him by making him cover all of Joe's PTO time away from the show used to grant us ignorant ungrateful viewers insightful interviews where we all just might learn something!) AND all their other anchors are still showing Trump for what he is, they may pushing Joe & Mika (and the aforementioned producer) to look for a new brothel. 

On the other hand the MSNBC powers that be may have just decided after election day they needed ONE show that resembled a Newsmax hellscape and Joe & Mika - unencumbered by any integrity whatsoever - were the only employees that agreed to it.

[SeanBug]

The couple minutes I saw this morning at 6am they had I believe two NYPD officers talking about the Brian Thompson (UHC) shooting. 

Joe started asking why NYC doesn't have more cameras that could have followed Mangione wherever he went.  I don't know because those CCTV cameras aren't a documentary crew chasing him around? 

Also, Joe wanted to know where were his parents and friends???? Why didn't they stop him?  Which devolved into "we need to get mentally ill people off the streets!!!" 

Yes. If only there was a government program, say universal healthcare, and I don't know, maybe federally funded mental health institutions, that could help people. I wonder why these things don't exist.  Do you think someone from the conservative side of the political spectrum could answer these questions?  And offer alternative solutions that don't cause families to go bankrupt? Or for police departments, instead of mental health professionals, to have to deal with mental health issues?  

Enlighten us, please. 

[Lowcountry snark]

20 hours ago, Kemper said:

And when did MJ turn into a place where celebrities seem to be on more than they used to be.

I kind of hated that when I used to watch.  Times Square is like an eight minute walk from 30 Rock, so having every obscure Broadway show on makes sense in that it's easy.  But we're not Manhattanites, I'm not ever going to see any of those plays.  And movie actors and the author describing the indie, message-driven think-piece is fine once in a while, but come on.  There's a universe of charismatic people they could have on.
I feel like they book whoever asks them, not the other way around.

[oakville]

16 hours ago, chick binewski said:

Holy crap indeed. A producer warning a guest twice and an apology to Fox "news"? What the hell?

When Lemire was announced as MJ co-host back in October, the release stated it would be for the 9AM hour. Axios also mentioned Lemire was the rare cable news host who did not have to take a pay cut. I'm choosing to be hopeful about this bc in my head if MSNBC is actually paying Lemire and giving him a more prominent MJ role (after trying to kill him by making him cover all of Joe's PTO time away from the show used to grant us ignorant ungrateful viewers insightful interviews where we all just might learn something!) AND all their other anchors are still showing Trump for what he is, they may pushing Joe & Mika (and the aforementioned producer) to look for a new brothel. 

On the other hand the MSNBC powers that be may have just decided after election day they needed ONE show that resembled a Newsmax hellscape and Joe & Mika - unencumbered by any integrity whatsoever - were the only employees that agreed to it.

From Puck News :

At MSNBC, for instance, Jonathan Lemire recently signaled that he no longer wants to host Way Too Early, his current $750,000-a-year gig, but wants more than the customary $250,000-a-year contributor contract to continue working as a Morning Joe regular. Joe Scarborough himself told Lemire he would go to NBC News chief Cesar Conde and NBCUniversal C.E.O. Mike Cavanagh and even Comcast C.E.O. Brian Roberts to argue on his behalf, but the offer came back the same. (Lemire’s contract negotiations are ongoing and the details of his next role have not been finalized.)In a previous era, NBC probably would have honored Lemire’s petition to work more hospitable hours, recognizing his past sacrifice hosting a 5 a.m. show, and found a way to make it work. Alas, there’s no such flexibility anymore. (Lemire was not given a chance to comment before publication and subsequently disputed this account).

[EtheltoTillie]

6 hours ago, SeanBug said:

Also, Joe wanted to know where were his parents and friends???? Why didn't they stop him?  Which devolved into "we need to get mentally ill people off the streets!!!" 

 

FWIW, I thought this exchange was slightly different.  They kept asking whether any family members had come forward to identify him when he was still on the run.  The cops were asked that three times and cagily refused to answer. 

I loved that old school cop (the white guy on the left)  --you never hear a NY accent like that anymore.  The other guy said he thought his parents would definitely have been able to identify him if he were shown with a mask, but they still wouldn't answer as to whether Mangione's family and come forward. 

Also, they asked a very specific question about the cameras--were you sorry there were no cameras in Central Park.  I thought it was a good question.  They didn't give a straight answer. 

Edited December 11 by EtheltoTillie
Duh--I meant with a mask

[EtheltoTillie]

I have very strong feelings about the mentally ill homeless.  There is no simple answer.   It's not just de-funding of care--which was something that happened.  It was considered a great thing to let people go free from horrible institutions.  We have miracle drugs, etc.  But that doesn't work.    There has been so much civil rights litigation and legislation that makes it virtually impossible to force anyone to get help.  Families are unable to help.  The mentally ill individual is entitled by HIPAA and other privacy laws to prevent anyone from discussing their case with concerned relatives.  And I could go on. 

I live in NY.  Mayor Adams tried to twist the law so he could take certain mentally ill people in if they were not caring for themselves, but that really hasn't happened. 

[oakville]

A conservative website is noticing Joe's evolving approach to Trump.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mark-finkelstein/2024/12/11/what-post-election-scarborough-makes-hes-never-heard-phrase

[oakville]

Today's top story is Bill Belichick's agreement to be a head coach at UNC College. Joe said it made sense because his girlfriend just graduated from college.

Mika started moaning about Bill dating a 24-year-old.

Joe said Wray should have waited to be fired by Trump as FBI director.

FBI employees are worried about Kash Patel being the FBI director. Joe is worried about him arresting journalists.

Joe is wearing a suit today with a new tie. Sloppy Joe is out. Professional Joe is in.

 

[oakville]

Only 23% of Republicans trust the FBI. many people believe they are biased against the GOP & Trump.

Melania complained about about the FBI raiding her bedroom at Mar A Largo.

Mika said Hegesth is not qualified to the Defense Secretary.

[oakville]

Joe said Tulsi Gabbard will be voted down by 4 Republicans in the Senate.

Joe is mad at the FBI building being turned into a museum.

Joe wants background checks on nominees.

Joe said MSNBC does background checks on employees.

[oakville]

Joe said he knew that the FBI didn't like Clinton. Joe blamed Comey's press conference for damaging Hillary's campaign. He politically indicted her.

Joe said he was right. the FBI is politicized.

Joe knew that the Steele Dossier was BS. Trump never peed on prostitutes.

 

 

 

Joe started impersonating Tom Cotton trying to enforce Trump's nominees.

Joe said Senators and some cable hosts see themselves in the mirror as the next President of the Unites States.

[Lowcountry snark]

2 hours ago, oakville said:

A conservative website is noticing Joe's evolving approach to Trump.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mark-finkelstein/2024/12/11/what-post-election-scarborough-makes-hes-never-heard-phrase

Did a 12 year old write that?  That's embarrassing, not even including the misspellings.
Wild, just wild that this frame of mind won all elections by landslides.

[oakville]

1 hour ago, Lowcountry snark said:

Did a 12 year old write that?  That's embarrassing, not even including the misspellings.
Wild, just wild that this frame of mind won all elections by landslides.

It might be an intern. The website ridicules Joe regularly. They have a habit of bringing up Joe's changing positions on issues.

[SeanBug]

21 hours ago, oakville said:

Only 23% of Republicans trust the FBI. many people believe they are biased against the GOP & Trump.

Melania complained about about the FBI raiding her bedroom at Mar A Largo.

Mika said Hegesth is not qualified to the Defense Secretary

Interesting. Because the FBI is one of the most conservative institutions in the US.  

Well Melania, maybe, and I'm just spit balling here, you shouldn't have married a con man criminal who sidles up to our enemies.  And who stored these documents in your bedroom.  And your son's bedroom. And your bathroom.

 

 

[SeanBug]

I had to laugh this morning as Willie and Barnicle were showing Chuck Scarborough's (NBC New York anchor) last show and his final message about his 50 years in broadcast news. 

Laughed because it was so ironic that this man, who is the epitome of class in an industry with so very little of it, is honored on a show that is sometimes hosted by a man with the same last name. And that's the sum total of what they have in common. 

Maybe JoMika will take a couple weeks off and let Willie & Lemire host so viewers can enjoy the show for a change without waiting for it to turn into crazy drunk uncle rants. 

Joe just go do a podcast. Then you can scream and cuss and play your stupid music. You can also have KYV sponsor the show. 

To get 20% of your first purchase of Know Your Value crap that the Dubai attendees didn't want, just go to KYVjunk.com and enter promo code "Doucheborough20". 

[KayVeeTeeVee]

Serious question.  Jonathan Lemire and Willie Geist will anchor the 9 a.m. hour.  I'm in!  So.  If Mika and Joe's time on air is cut by one hour, does that mean they voluntarily took a huge pay cut, as did Rachel Maddow?  I really hope this is the beginning of the end for Morning Joe.  You know, they wouldn't even have to change the title - just show a giant cup of morning coffee!

 

[SeanBug]

On 12/10/2024 at 1:12 PM, Kemper said:

When you think about LeMire being a permanent co-host - isn't that what he or Willy  have been doing since Show expanded to four 😱 hours. A lot of the time Joe disappears for quite awhile. And Meeka cannot handle a good bit of the topics and people discussed on her own .

And . when did MJ turn into a place where celebrities seem to be on more than they used to be. The show-biz kind. I would rather listen to the same authors who are constantly pushing their books. Constantly.

I remember a long time ago they would have actors promoting movies, sports figures, etc on.  

Does anyone else remember Mika's major crush on Tiki Barber?  Or when Bradley Cooper was on promoting Silver Linings Playbook, and he spoke about mental health crisis for veterans, etc., and Mika told him she hated some of his movies. Because laughing at The Hangover movie is for the poors.

[SeanBug]

3 minutes ago, KayVeeTeeVee said:

Serious question.  Jonathan Lemire and Willie Geist will anchor the 9 a.m. hour.  I'm in!  So.  If Mika and Joe's time on air is cut by one hour, does that mean they voluntarily took a huge pay cut, as did Rachel Maddow?  I really hope this is the beginning of the end for Morning Joe.  You know, they woul, dn't even have to change the title - just show a giant cup of morning coffee!

 

Same!! Except get rid of "Joe" in the title. Just his name is triggering. 

Something like:

"MSNBC AM: Joe and Mika are gone. It's safe to come home!   It's like when Dorothy killed the Witch!! Not Elpheba in Wicked! The mean one in the old movie". 

It's kinda long but it does promote Wicked which is a Universal/Comcast project. 

Win/win. 

[millennium]

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I see no reason to watch this show without Joe and Mika.  (Or more recently, with Joe and Mika -- see Disclaimer below.)

Jonathan Lemire and Willie Geist are two of the most milquetoast cable news personalities I have ever seen.  B-O-R-I-N-G. 

It's exactly because of the likes of Jonathan Lemire and Willie Geist that the show needs Joe and Mika.   His self-importance, her incompetence ... they outshine the dim bulbs surrounding them.  Katty Kay, Mike Barnicle, Jon Meacham, David Ignatius ... ugh. 

Morning Joe without Joe and Mika would be like the Love Boat with just the guest stars.   A rudderless ship.  A cruise to nowhere.   The show needs its Captain Stubing and Julie.

* Disclaimer: Notwithstanding the above, Joe and Mika have demonstrated that they are feckless opportunists -- they have no feck, no feck at all.   For this reason, they no longer deserve our time or attention.   The show should be put to sleep (which is ironic, considering it's a show people wake up to).

Edited Saturday at 12:39 AM by millennium

[oakville]

The settlement with ABC might explain why Mika and Joe were so quick to go to Mar A Largo after the election. Trump may have been tempted to sue Joe and MSNBC for all the comments he made about Trump over the past four years. Joe was always trying to be careful when he called Trump a rapist.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/14/politics/trump-abc-news-defamation-lawsuit-settle/index.html

[oakville]

21 hours ago, millennium said:

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I see no reason to watch this show without Joe and Mika.  (Or more recently, with Joe and Mika -- see Disclaimer below.)

Jonathan Lemire and Willie Geist are two of the most milquetoast cable news personalities I have ever seen.  B-O-R-I-N-G. 

It's exactly because of the likes of Jonathan Lemire and Willie Geist that the show needs Joe and Mika.   His self-importance, her incompetence ... they outshine the dim bulbs surrounding them.  Katty Kay, Mike Barnicle, Jon Meacham, David Ignatius ... ugh. 

Morning Joe without Joe and Mika would be like the Love Boat with just the guest stars.   A rudderless ship.  A cruise to nowhere.   The show needs its Captain Stubing and Julie.

* Disclaimer: Notwithstanding the above, Joe and Mika have demonstrated that they are feckless opportunists -- they have no feck, no feck at all.   For this reason, they no longer deserve our time or attention.   The show should be put to sleep (which is ironic, considering it's a show people wake up to).

Post of the week!

I watch Willie on NBC Sunday today sometimes. He is very amiable and rarely offers any political opinions. I agree that Willie couldn't carry Morning Joe in its current format without Mika and Joe.

[Kemper]

Neither Willy nor Jonathan L can carry a show; much less the usual regulars. Like it or not, Joe has given us a whole lot of entertainment on this board. Good, bad, ugly, etc. Most of the time there was something to laugh about, make fun of, infuriate, etc. This doesn't mean that I think he and Meeka should continue. 

[oakville]

5 hours ago, oakville said:

The settlement with ABC might explain why Mika and Joe were so quick to go to Mar A Largo after the election. Trump may have been tempted to sue Joe and MSNBC for all the comments he made about Trump over the past four years. Joe was always trying to be careful when he called Trump a rapist.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/14/politics/trump-abc-news-defamation-lawsuit-settle/index.html

 

[SeanBug]

Of course we all have our reasons for watching or not, I just can't take Joe's bullshit and yelling and repeating everything three times. I know that's a method people use in speeches, but it isn't necessary on a news talk show and he's so fucking annoying. 

I'll watch Lemire and Willie just because we aren't subjected to Joe's idiotic opinions and Mika's sighing and posing.  I won't watch three or four hours of it, but first thing in the morning, I'd rather just have a recap of news, the markets, etc and not Joe trying to convince me he knows more than everyone and I should be thankful for him. 

I watch the previous night's episode of The Daily Show. At least it's people who are smart and funny and self deprecating. I don't always agree with Jon Stewart's take on everything but at least he's not an obnoxious bully. 

 

[oakville]

Another frequent Morning Joe guest, Carlos Watson  has been sentenced to 10 years in prison. Mika and Joe were big fans of Ozy Media. Katty Kay was so excited that she quit the BBC to join Ozy Media. Luckily for her, she resigned after the initial scandal was revealed and rejoined the BBC. I recall compiling a list of all the Morning Joe guests who were convicted of crimes.  There was a discussion of Mika & Joe hosting a Morning Joe Lockup show on the weekends. Lockup was a popular show on MSNBC during the 2010s.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/16/business/media/carlos-watson-ozy-media-sentenced.html?searchResultPosition=1

[SeanBug]

Watching the 9 am hour. They're talking about where Musk will cut federal spending. 

Social Security and Medicare.

Wanna fund those programs very easily. End the cap on when people get to stop contributing.  Whatever income you receive, if Social security/Medicare is deducted, it's deducted no matter how much you make. 

Of course it won't affect Musk and billionaires. But a lot of very wealthy people who own small businesses and take a salary, don't pay into these program at some point. It's complete bullshit. Because I guarantee you, the multi millionaires I worked for were just fine taking any benefit they could from the government, while bitching about having to pay taxes. 

Holy shit Joe just admitted Reagan's trickle down economic policy of cutting taxes so much that the wealthy would pay people more, didn't work. 

[SeanBug]

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/joe-scarborough-openly-laughs-at-trump-lawsuits-against-the-media-theyre-all-going-to-get-thrown-out/

Joe thinks these lawsuits will get thrown out in discovery. Maybe, maybe not.  The one against Anne Seltzer, yes that would get thrown out. She had no malice toward him, she asked people questions and they either misled her or she didn't get a large enough sample to get correct data. Woodward and the NYT could be in a little more hot water if they made opinions sound like facts. 

It's not going to court and winning that Trump cares about. It's harassing the defendant so much that they settle and pay him. He doesn't give a shit about justice, Joe. He wants the payday. 

Did you and Mika slip him a little envelope in your chat? I'm sure he didn't care about opening a dialogue with you. He was interested in you opening your wallet.