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Discussion of the hosts regarding a specific episode is fine here, but generalized discussion of the hosts go in the The Hosts Thread: Joe and Mika Know Their Value. 

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15 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Today New York's hottest club is the Daniel Patrick Moynihan United States Courthouse. This place has everything: Pee tapes, porn stars, shady lawyers, magazine spankings, the cast of the Apprentice, shirtless Russian men riding bears, tanning beds, disgraced former FBI director  and  Dreamsicles. What are Dreamcicles? It's that thing where there's orange all the way around the outside and then it's white in the center. 

omg that is so funny.  Tweet it to Bill Hader and offer it to him.

Trump is funneling money to Hannity for propaganda support?  The world is crazy, and also, of course he is.

Who is Pierre?  We have a Pierre and I don't like the idea of Mika sharing the same affinity for pet names. 

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1 minute ago, Landsnark said:

Who is Pierre?  We have a Pierre and I don't like the idea of Mika sharing the same affinity for pet names. 

Pierre is one of Mika's roosters (I guess when they first got him they thought he was a female.  I  fast forwarded through the video as she's boring and I can stand to see animals teased until they shriek like that).

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2 minutes ago, Landsnark said:

omg that is so funny.  Tweet it to Bill Hader and offer it to him.

Full disclosure, it was on twitter, I just added  shady lawyers tanning beds, fbi director and dreamsicles. 

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Count me in as one who would rather listen to Joe and Mika than Joy Reid; and like someone posted above, I don't know why.  I still miss Steve Kornacki on Saturday mornings...sitting around with the pastries, discussing Chris Christie and The Bridge!  His hyper-ness was contagious.  Keep Joy on Saturdays and add Kornacki, too. He could take Hugh Hewitt's spot or the newswoman with long blonde hair...can never remember her name.  Alex something.  Or bring back Alex Wagner...used to have an afternoon show on MSNBC...think she is on weekends now.  Maybe another network?  The MJ replacements could be fantastic...if we could choose them.  Maybe via lottery.  Am I getting the Alex(es) mixed up?

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Just now, teddysmom said:

Alex Wagner is on CBS now. 

I think she also took Halperin's spot on The Circus with Heilemann.  I hope she asked for a new chair in her contract negotiations.

3 minutes ago, XOQueens said:

Lol maybe this will get me on Morning Joe. ? 

Ok, they're going live to the courthouse which is letting out.  Let us know what you are wearing so we can spot you Xoqueens!

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12 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

I think she also took Halperin's spot on The Circus with Heilemann.  I hope she asked for a new chair in her contract negotiations.

Ok, they're going live to the courthouse which is letting out.  Let us know what you are wearing so we can spot you Xoqueens!

All black. Smudge of green paint on my face (don’t judge I’m an artist and we left quick). ? Mika’s boyfriend is tres swoony in person. 

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6 minutes ago, XOQueens said:

All black. Smudge of green paint on my face (don’t judge I’m an artist and we left quick). ? Mika’s boyfriend is tres swoony in person. 

An artist?  How lucky for you, I just love creative people (I can't even paint a wall)!  So he's even more swooney in person?  I bet he smells good too .  Cohen just waddled out of court.  He looks like he has a load in his pants.

eta:  I am making the assumption that swooney does not = Scarborough.

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3 hours ago, cased said:

This is what I have suspected. Everyone sees how Joe is so dominant over Mika on the show, and assumes that is the same off the air, but I have always sensed that off the air she is much more in charge.

I guess I could see that. She had like 3-5 Instagram Lives today. In the last one I caught while waiting around... she had Joe record her feeding her animals and loving on them. I've broken up with guys over less ridiculous demands for my time. Lol (kidding)

3 hours ago, Ladyrain said:

I didn't notice it either, but I'm glad they did it.

Count me as another who did not notice that at all. 

2 hours ago, Chloesmom said:

HEE!  Too bad he pissed Avenatti off, he could have come in mighty handy tomorrow.  I am in the process of creating a portable shower for days like today because I feel like I need one about ever 15 minutes.

I can't wait to see who they have on tomorrow! I can't wait until Maddow tonight! I can't wait! !!!!!!!

1 hour ago, Chloesmom said:

eta:  I am making the assumption that swooney does not = Scarborough.

Oh god no, it does not equal Joe. ? MA is a more natural color in person, I must say.

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The latest ratings for Friday April 13. Boring Joe dropped to #83 out of 150 cable tv shows. Ratings in the key demo( 18-49)  are .14. Total viewers are 1,170,000 down from 1,195,000 on Thursday April 12, 2018. I find it unusual that Morning Joe only gets 1 ratings estimate( 6 am-9 am)  whereas Fox Friends get a separate rating for 6 am, & 7 am & 8 am.

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-friday-cable-originals-network-finals-4-13-2018.html

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Imagine if there was breaking news that Joe was Cohen's secret client.  Do you think the peals of laughter from Rachel Maddow's section of the floor would be deafening, or merely just incredibly loud?
Love Heilemann's cynicism this morning.  He said "either Cohen or Hannity are liars.  One of them is lying."

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13 hours ago, Kemper said:

Count me in as one who would rather listen to Joe and Mika than Joy Reid; and like someone posted above, I don't know why.  I still miss Steve Kornacki on Saturday mornings...sitting around with the pastries, discussing Chris Christie and The Bridge!  His hyper-ness was contagious.  Keep Joy on Saturdays and add Kornacki, too. He could take Hugh Hewitt's spot or the newswoman with long blonde hair...can never remember her name.  Alex something.  Or bring back Alex Wagner...used to have an afternoon show on MSNBC...think she is on weekends now.  Maybe another network?  The MJ replacements could be fantastic...if we could choose them.  Maybe via lottery.  Am I getting the Alex(es) mixed up?

I loved watching the show with the pastries. They loked so fresh & tasty.

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8 minutes ago, cased said:

Apparently Michael Avenatti is going to be on MJ this morning. Could be good. 

Goodness even his presence won't ruin Scarborough's mood, that is one happy country lawyer today.  This is a good start to the show, this is the way I remember the show being.  It's nice.

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Tuesday Recap. It's morning Hypocrites.Mika & her new raccoon eyes TM Katty Kay is wearing a black top. Joe is wearing his glasses . They are on set together with Heileman, Willie & Ratner.

First Topic: Sean Hanniy is a hypocrite for not disclosing his relationship with Michael Cohen while ranting about the raid on his office.

Willie was upset that Hannity had dinner at the White House & Mar a Largo.

Willie has amnesia. Mika & Joe had dinner at the White House & spent New Years Eve at Mar a Largo. I expect better of Willie.

Mika is giddy about Hannity being caught not disclosing his relationship with Cohen.

I get that cable tv hosts like to make fun of their competitors. However, Mika was not so giddy when her "good friend" Brian Williams was suspended or Mark Halperin was fired.

It would be fun for Mika having to explain her friendship with disgraced journalist Charlie Rose who was a guest at her engagement party.

Willie doesn't seem so concerned about Chuck Todd's interviewing  his wife's political clients without disclosing it.

Heilemann is also annoying me today. He never commented on Morning Joe about his good friend Mark Halperin.

It's nice that the Morning Joe panel never challenges Ratner over his securities violations .

I don't like Hannity & have no clue why he would use Michael Cohen as a lawyer.

Why didn't Joe bring up who the judge in the Cohen case is ? It's the infamous Judge Kimba Wood? Don't they remember that Clinton appointed her to his cabinet but she had to withdraw for hiring an illegal immigrant as a nanny. She also applied to work as a Playboy Bunny. These panelist have no memory.

https://forward.com/fast-forward/398791/when-kimba-wood-the-judge-on-michael-cohens-case-celebrated-a-circumcision/

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Joe Turley gets the fancy NBC Library. He doesn't know why they named Michael Cohen

Joe is acting like a dumb country lawyer. He has no clue who Kimba Wood is?

Joe is mad at Hannity for attacking war hero, Bob Mueller.

18 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

Goodness even his presence won't ruin Scarborough's mood, that is one happy country lawyer today.  This is a good start to the show, this is the way I remember the show being.  It's nice.

I hope Avenatti attacks Joe & tells him to stop taking cheap shots at him when he isn't on the air.

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3 minutes ago, oakville said:

He doesn't know why they named Michael Cohen

As much as I am enjoying the much deserved dunking Hannity is taking, my first thought was when those two were going on about how horrible all of this is and all I could think of was thank God you two have never lied to your audience . . . . as for why the lawyer named Hannity in court, according to I believe the swooney Mr. Avenatti, Cohen's lawyer was arguing not to release his name and the judge said he had to either by writing it down or saying it out loud and for some bizarre reason he just blurted it out.  

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Shallow Comment - They are sitting around a table. A full view of the table was shown. It was a complete mess with a large number of cups on it. Looked like it hadn't been cleared for a week.

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9 minutes ago, oakville said:

I don't like Hannity & have no clue why he would use Michael Cohen as a lawyer.

Because it appears that Cohen is a fixer like Ray Donovan or Mike Ermantrout and happens to have a law degree. 

Mika is all wound up. I'm anxious to see if Avenetti "swivels her chair" this morning. (Kudos to our poster who came up with that phrase after his original appearance.)

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5 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

As much as I am enjoying the much deserved dunking Hannity is taking, my first thought was when those two were going on about how horrible all of this is and all I could think of was thank God you two have never lied to your audience . . . . as for why the lawyer named Hannity in court, according to I believe the swooney Mr. Avenatti, Cohen's lawyer was arguing not to release his name and the judge said he had to either by writing it down or saying it out loud and for some bizarre reason he just blurted it out.  

Mika & Joe should realize that Karma exists for a reason. I am sure they found it hilarious when Mika was crying on the phone to Roger Ailes at Fox News to not report her affair with Joe on the NY Post Page Six.

I am sure  Heilemann didn't find it funny when his co host & co writer Mark Halperin was outed as a sexual predator on his co workers.

He lost a lot of money on cancelled bok deals etc.

Heilemann got off easy , because no one on MSNBC would ask him about his relationship with Halperin.

These tv people are phonies. They were all good friends with the evil Matt Lauer.

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Joe is making fun of the NBC poll. Tax cuts are bad for the deficit. Joe is mad that Trump is cutting taxes, raising spending & the military.

What happened to Al Sharpton? His suit looks two sizes too big for him.

Will Sharpton discuss the Starbucks scandal in Philadelphia?

The show used to be sponsored by Starbucks.

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Ratner is doing charts. Mika & Joe are making fun of charts. Hey Mika, let Chartman do his thing.

In 2010, Obama lost 60 seats. In 1994, Clinton lost 45 seats and the economy was in good shape.

Gerrymandering is helping the GOP in the Senate & House.

Mika said Nikki Haley may run in 2020? What?

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Oh for the love of God Mika stop with the being transparent and I would never lie to my viewers.  We see you!

Mika is being very annoying today.

Joe said Warren & Sanders have to get more black voters to support them. Sharpton said they don't deal with racial issues well.

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Now Scoop Scarborough is chasing Heilemann around about whether or not it;s ok to repeat the McClatchy story as it hasn't been confirmed by another source.  These two are just the paragons of virtue today aren't they?

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Just now, millennium said:

Basta!

This may become my new word to shout at the screen when Morning Joe is on.    

No mas! is starting to feel old.

Hee!  I had no idea that's what it meant.  Wow, Joe is really rolling over for Avenatti but here comes Mika to the rescue.

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34 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

Now Scoop Scarborough is chasing Heilemann around about whether or not it;s ok to repeat the McClatchy story as it hasn't been confirmed by another source.  These two are just the paragons of virtue today aren't they?

Scoop Scarborough!

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I really enjoyed that Avenatti segment (besides just looking at him).  I was beginning to think he was just playing to the cameras but now I believe he knows exactly what he's doing and that is to continue to drive Trump and team completely nuts so they keep making these unforced errors.  I'm glad they all kissed and made up as it will be great to have him on the show.

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1 minute ago, Chloesmom said:

I really enjoyed that Avenatti segment (besides just looking at him).  I was beginning to think he was just playing to the cameras but now I believe he knows exactly what he's doing and that is to continue to drive Trump and team completely nuts so they keep making these unforced errors.  I'm glad they all kissed and made up as it will be great to have him on the show.

Did Joe apologize to Avenatti?

I am on the train . 

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Just now, oakville said:

Did Joe apologize to Avenatti?

I am on the train . 

He didn't use the words "I'm sorry" but he did acknowledge that there was turbulence the last time Avenatti was on the show and that he was out of line on some things (this is where Wonder Woman Mika jumps in and says mee too!).  Avenatti dragged him for a bit (that is one Alpha male) but the segment ended well with Avenatti agreeing to come back.  I'll post the link if it shows up on Mediaite.

In all honesty, I thought Joe did a good job of acknowledging bad behavior in a genuine manner.

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Did you notice when Michael Avenatti acknowledged that Mika wanted to jump into the conversations?  All the while Joe was too busy too busy as usual with his own talking points.

Essentially, Joe had to apologize to get Michael back on the show.  It was a good interview. I liked hearing Michael state that he never bluffs.

1 minute ago, Chloesmom said:

He didn't use the words "I'm sorry" but he did acknowledge that there was turbulence the last time Avenatti was on the show and that he was out of line on some things (this is where Wonder Woman Mika jumps in and says mee too!).  Avenatti dragged him for a bit (that is one Alpha male) but the segment ended well with Avenatti agreeing to come back.  I'll post the link if it shows up on Mediaite.

In all honesty, I thought Joe did a good job of acknowledging bad behavior in a genuine manner.

You are right that it was more of an acknowledgement and not a direct apology.  Michael Avenatti used the words, "I appreciate" in response.

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4 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

He didn't use the words "I'm sorry" but he did acknowledge that there was turbulence the last time Avenatti was on the show and that he was out of line on some things (this is where Wonder Woman Mika jumps in and says mee too!).  Avenatti dragged him for a bit (that is one Alpha male) but the segment ended well with Avenatti agreeing to come back.  I'll post the link if it shows up on Mediaite.

In all honesty, I thought Joe did a good job of acknowledging bad behavior in a genuine manner.

That’s good. Did Joe tell Avenatti to stop flirting with Mika?

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Mika was incredibly self-conscious during that interview. Her body language at the beginning, arms crossed at an exaggerated high level? Have we Ever seen that before? She looked like Trump dealing with uncomfortable questions from reporters. Swoony picked up on it too (how could he not!) and rested his hand on the table well beyond his allotted space between him and Mika.

Joe is whipped; Mika is not.

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2 minutes ago, suomi said:

Mika was incredibly self-conscious during that interview. Her body language at the beginning, arms crossed at an exaggerated high level? Have we Ever seen that before? She looked like Trump dealing with uncomfortable questions from reporters. Swoony picked up on it too (how could he not!) and rested his hand on the table well beyond his allotted space between him and Mika.

Joe is whipped; Mika is not.

Yep, it was interesting to watch Mika during that segment.  The one thing I first noticed is her chair was so close to Joe's I thought they were duct taped together and then after Joe offered his apologies she rose up and came to his defense that her behavior was just as bad.  I did notice Avenatti sneaking his hand into their personal space.  He really is the master of intimidation.  He is the epitome of "Don't bring a knife to a gun fight" kind of guy.

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So they're going to end the show dragging Pruitt?  Perfection, well done today Morning Joe!

eta:  With the Cone of Silence (apparently it was some guy named Jason's idea,  Again, well done!)

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1 hour ago, Chloesmom said:

not it;s ok to repeat the McClatchy story as it hasn't been confirmed by another source. 

Rachel had the McClatchy reporter on last night, he said they had at least two sources, and had worked on the story for around three months.

I'm hedging because I was half paying attention, so it could be more sources and more months. But it's a solid story.

I don't get Joe and his wavering back and forth with support of Trump's minions. Pick a lane, Doucheborough. 

Would it be considered lying to your viewers when you claim during your interviews with Trump you ask him hard question and don't hold back, and then it's confirmed you're schmoozing with him at Mar A Lago, feeding him questions pre interview, et al, which had to be disclosed thru other outlets? Is that considered lying, Joe? Asking for a friend. 

I loved Avenatti's "I know you've criticized me off air Joe", comment. As in, knock off the bullshit, just admit you were wrong.  Also I could have your girlfriend if I wanted to. 

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6 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

I loved Avenatti's "I know you've criticized me off air Joe", comment. As in, knock off the bullshit, just admit you were wrong.  Also I could have your girlfriend if I wanted to. 

Mic drop.

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Avenatti said that Joe took some shots at him, and understood why Joe did it... and then Avenatti stated why he did what he did for an extended uninterrupted period.  They just glided past their beef.  I didn't see any jostling or hurt feelings or any shots at all.  The only weird part was Mika.  She interrupted to double down on the CD "excuse me, DVD" in such an odd manner, I let the weights drop at the gym to turn around to see what the f was going on.

Avenatti was born to do legal work in public unlike almost anyone else I've ever seen.  Fictional attorneys don't have his 360' vision and wits.  He is not only the smartest person in that room, he's the smartest person in NYC.

Joe's first question to Avenatti, which probably clocks in at around 30 seconds, asks Avenatti what happened that caused Hannity to be named, and then realized he asked Avenatti a question without seeming like he already knew the answer, so then Joe answered his own question to "prove" he's as smart at Avenatti, and then asked Avenatti, "What do you think?"  I laughed to myself.

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Did I hear them say Ari Melber was going to be on?

If so, please tell me he made a rap reference. He is getting dragged so hard about that on the John Oliver forum, it's hilarious. 

1 minute ago, Landsnark said:

Joe's first question to Avenatti, which probably clocks in at around 30 seconds, asks Avenatti what happened that caused Hannity to be named, and then realized he asked Avenatti a question without seeming like he already knew the answer, so then Joe answered his own question to "prove" he's as smart at Avenatti, and then asked Avenatti, "What do you think?"  I laughed to myself.

If Joe and Avenatti were dogs, this would be where Joe rolls over on his back and pees a little to show submission to the Alpha of the pack. 

He is Fredo to Avenatti's Michael Corleone. "I'm, like smart. I"m not like everyone says, dumb. I'm smart. See I remembered from watching Ally McBeal with Mika,  a good attorney never asks a question he doesn't know the answer to. " 

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Today New York's hottest club is the Daniel Patrick Moynihan United States Courthouse. This place has everything: Pee tapes, porn stars, shady lawyers, magazine spankings, the cast of the Apprentice, shirtless Russian men riding bears, tanning beds, disgraced former FBI director  and  Dreamsicles

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Avenatti was born to do legal work in public unlike almost anyone else I've ever seen.  Fictional attorneys don't have his 360' vision and wits.  He is not only the smartest person in that room, he's the smartest person in NYC.

He's one of those guys that I just believe every single word he says. Experience says he's a scumbag like every other non-Legal Aid lawyer out there, but he has such an innate believability.  Like that riff they were doing on the DVD that he was threatening Trump with weeks ago. It's probably his daughter's Prom video, but I believe that its Trump in Urinetown.

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I like Mika's dress, sans Unitarian scarf.  She so would like to jump Avenatti's bones, looks like she's trying to control herself.  If I were Stormy, if I didn't have the cash, I'd definitely like to pay him in-kind.

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