jay741982 March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Not really happy with Digs "She'll come around" Felicity had every right to break up with Ollie Dig ! 3 Link to comment
hogwash March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 This dumb trial would work better if it was a grand jury trial. Link to comment
AyChihuahua March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Eh, Oliver can still go fuck himself. LOVING Felicity sticking to her guns, though. This dumb trial would work better if it was a grand jury trial. PROCEEDING, not trial. Don't make me come over there. 2 Link to comment
calliope1975 March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 I'm dead. Please send help to a hotel near Times Square. Whyyyyy does this hurt so much? 6 Link to comment
AyChihuahua March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 This is not a ten on the heartbreak scale. His vows were nice, at best. Link to comment
calliope1975 March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 This is not a ten on the heartbreak scale. His vows were nice, at best. Not even close, but I did like the vows and the look on SA's face. 1 Link to comment
catrox14 March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Godsdamn you SA...you break my heart....aughhhh 3 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 24, 2016 Author Share March 24, 2016 Wow i actually felt for Oliver there. Nice touch from SA when he turned to the pastor. Still an ass though 4 Link to comment
catrox14 March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Wow i actually felt for Oliver there. Nice touch from SA when he turned to the pastor. That's the part that really broke me. He's just a big dumb in love idiot who is his own worst enemy here. :(:(: 1 Link to comment
AyChihuahua March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 (edited) EBR's dress is ill-fitted, but she's so pretty! Felicity is so the hero of this episode. I have to say, though, and I know, and accept, that I'm in the minority here...I feel like real and continuing damage was done to Olicity. I have a very hard time seeing Oliver really in love with Felicity now. Edited March 24, 2016 by AyChihuahua 5 Link to comment
calliope1975 March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Well, dammit, now Felicity's breaking my heart. 2 Link to comment
hogwash March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 So...they're definitely getting back together by the finale. Yay! 1 Link to comment
apinknightmare March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Well, dammit, now Felicity's breaking my heart. Same. But she's probably going to take it back, haha. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 24, 2016 Author Share March 24, 2016 Yeah Felicity's speech pretty much set up a reunion by 423 2 Link to comment
MuuMuuChainsmoker March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 See that pinned note at the top of the page? You can live tweet the episode, but remember to keep it comprehensible for people who aren't watching. 2 Link to comment
apinknightmare March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Wait, did he just kill Cupid?? I thought he tranqed her? Link to comment
calliope1975 March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Same. But she's probably going to take it back, haha. Shhhhh...let me live in my land of denial. :D 1 Link to comment
apinknightmare March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Shhhhh...let me live in my land of denial. :D Looks like I might have been wrong? Hopefully? Keep living!!! Link to comment
AyChihuahua March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Okay, sooooooo: the seal says United States District Court. So everyone knows, that means federal court. That means Laurel would NOT be the prosecutor. This show's legal stuff is SO DUMB. Dude, she's taking leave from Team Arrow. 1 Link to comment
hogwash March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 This is the breakup speech I deserved in 415. 9 Link to comment
calliope1975 March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 These are new writers? Can we keep them? 15 Link to comment
AyChihuahua March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 I thought it was a bit blah, and not thrilled re how resigned Oliver is (he hired movers for her, seriously?!?). All but one small moment of the legal stuff was, so everyone understands, seriously batshit crazy. LOVED Felicity sticking to her guns. Quentin will end the season out of SCPD, yes? Also, to gloat for a moment, it sounds like she's taking some leave, and also the Canary Cry is almost definitely used to short-circuit bots inside Oliver. Both of which I specced months ago. So cool, esp since those specs shouldn't make anyone hate me. SA could use a little bit of a tan. I'm pretty pale, but he's really really pale. I'm not saying he should risk skin cancer or Trumpian oranginess, but a teensy but of color might be helpful. Link to comment
Genki March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Oliver got stung, but he regrets the sleeveless costume now! 8 Link to comment
hogwash March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 So Laurel dies, Felicity rejoins Team Arrow to catch her killer, Oliver makes a grand gesture to show that he's super serious about the no lying thing, they get back together and the writers stop trying to put a Felicity/Oliver peg in a Laurel/Oliver hole. Sounds good. 24 Link to comment
way2interested March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 And, officially with the press releases for the other CW shows, Arrow's on break after 418. So death cliffhanger it is! 2 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 24, 2016 Author Share March 24, 2016 Why do theae idiots keep doing everything I say I dont want them too? 9 Link to comment
AyChihuahua March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 And, officially with the press releases for the other CW shows, Arrow's on break after 418. So death cliffhanger it is! Bastards. Wonder who all they leave in danger? Def Laurel and Quentin...maybe Digg? Thea? Link to comment
Chaser March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Oliver got stung, but he regrets the sleeveless costume now! Ha...HaHa....HAHA 1 Link to comment
apinknightmare March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Oliver got stung, but he regrets the sleeveless costume now! But I don't regret it. I don't regret it one single, bicep-y bit. 1 Link to comment
way2interested March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Bastards. Wonder who all they leave in danger? Def Laurel and Quentin...maybe Digg? Thea? Felicity, since it's her in the grave and Oliver is clearly hallucinating her, obviously. In all seriousness, I'm going with an ending like 2x20. Laurel is going to be dead dead after saving Lance. Part of me doesn't really think it's going to be a cliffhanger at all but just end with the death. 3 Link to comment
jay741982 March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Looks Like Felicity finally sees her Nemesis in person. Demented Beth Greene. Writers I'm begging you to have them come face to face and engage in some fistcuffs! Felicity, since it's her in the grave and Oliver is clearly hallucinating her, obviously. In all seriousness, I'm going with an ending like 2x20. Laurel is going to be dead dead after saving Lance. Part of me doesn't really think it's going to be a cliffhanger at all but just end with the death. Yeah I can see them ending the episode with the death as well. Right after she dies the Arrow symbol comes up! Link to comment
kismet March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 (edited) Oliver got stung, but he regrets the sleeveless costume now! Well we need a reason for a costume redesign next season... bee stings work for me. 317 looks good... On another note, I really don't care if LL's death is a cliffhanger or not. Because it's pretty obvious who's in the grave. I just think it's a little cruel for her fans, since they will have a whole break of emotional turmoil dealing with denial and coming to terms with it. Edited March 24, 2016 by kismet 1 Link to comment
Guest March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 A break after 418? SNORE. What the hell are they doing?! UGH. They're totally gonna end it on a cliffhanger. Link to comment
Chaser March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 Taking into consideration the break, when will they release the episode summary for 4x19? It's probably ending on a cliffhanger but I hope not. Link to comment
Chaser March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 The trailer to 4x17 surprised me. In a good way. I wasn't expecting the trailer to be so suspenseful. Bees are creatures of horror and the trailer certainly made them more than pests. LOL That's amazing. I love Donna. Lol 1 Link to comment
lemotomato March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 (edited) Re: the 2 week break between 418 and 419-- they took a similar break last season at the same time, with 318 ending on a semi-cliffhanger when Roy "revealed" himself as Arrow. (It was also during that break that the 320 sex scene promo came out, so here's hoping!) Edited March 24, 2016 by lemotomato 5 Link to comment
foreverevolving March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 (edited) So this just came to me- hey it's 2:30am!: Since Laurel is toast, does this mean Thea will get to keep Laurel's apartment? Edited March 24, 2016 by foreverevolving 1 Link to comment
BkWurm1 March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 This episode is going to make me CRAY CRAY. NONE OF THIS is how THE LAW WORKS!!! Also, btw, L&O: Original Recipe was pretty decent on the law. Prior bad acts, fruit of the poisonous tree, etc., the show was fairly accurate about. Waaaaaaaaaaay more than Arrow, which takes the law, adds some rotten raw eggs and an avacado, puts in some sand from Mars, and whirls in a cheap blender. It's not just inaccurate, it's full-on nutbars. Seriously, Arrow is so bad at almost everything law related that I just don't understand how it makes it into the script. Just by watching other television shows I know better so how come these TV script writers don't??? At this point I almost think they've made a game of how bad can they make the legal stuff. Felicity, since it's her in the grave and Oliver is clearly hallucinating her, obviously. In all seriousness, I'm going with an ending like 2x20. Laurel is going to be dead dead after saving Lance. Part of me doesn't really think it's going to be a cliffhanger at all but just end with the death. The break is probably there as a buffer for processing grief/joy. I found this most recent episode really interesting because on one had it really telegraphed to me a person who has watched too much TV that this break up is not the end of the story for this couple but taken at face value, it really seems like the writers are trying to fake out viewers with the seeming removal of a relationship that got in the way of Because Comics "destiny". It's almost cruel building up a hope like that only to kill Laurel. I'm curious if next week there will be any Oliver and Laurel "moments". It seems likely. We already have Laurel saving Oliver. Give them a moment to be glad he's alive and they are just throwing fuel on the fire. But misdirection is what these writers do around this time of year. Last year Felicity is in a happy relationship with Ray. Year before that Oliver seemed content with Sara and Felicity barely a blip. Season one, it was Laurel and Tommy looking pretty solid. But that's not the way it ends. Speaking of endings. I can't believe that in just two weeks AyChihuahua will be eating her hat. Mind boggling. 7 Link to comment
looptab March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 I read the last two pages with a grin on my face :) I especially loved @AyChihuahua rants about the law stuff :D BTW, what do you think SA's description of the episode ("Oh..that's inconvenient") referred to? I think it was this next break he was semi-ranting about in his last fb video. Was last year's two weeks as well? Link to comment
Belinea March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 So, will Stephen's favorite moment be in the next episode? I have to say that the courtroom shows that Laurel could have her own thing but she isn't needed in the other plot. It is weird. While the law stuff annoys me in general because I think it is boring, she works for me as a woman who works. She has a job and she does that, in situations like this I think she has something to do that only she can do. Whereas in the action stuff it always feels like they need her there because of the BC title. All in all, I was a little underwhelmed with this episode. I don't know why. It just didn't hit me emotionally. Maybe I am turning to stone. But I have to admit, the writers got me to think 'poor Oliver' once, which is a small miracle. I am not sure how they are going to get back together or when but I hope that Oliver will finally learn what he hasn't learned in the last 4 years. Probably not, but one can hope. As for the breaks, they are annoying and seriously hurt the flow sometimes. And this close together. Maybe the should have them off the air 6 weeks and then have only new epiodes... 1 Link to comment
Midnight Lullaby March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 I think the episode showed very clearly that the team's dynamic won't suffer one bit without Laurel. 22 Link to comment
apinknightmare March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 BTW, what do you think SA's description of the episode ("Oh..that's inconvenient") referred to? I think he was referring to their decoy wedding. 1 Link to comment
looptab March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 I think he was referring to their decoy wedding. I thought that too, before watching. But then I thought it could be Quentin testifying, or Felicity leaving at the end? Too many options! Link to comment
Velocity23 March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 So apparently Echo was on the Afterbuzz tv Arrow aftershow and said: "The calculator might be big on the show soon, oh boy." 3 Link to comment
foreverevolving March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 I think the episode showed very clearly that the team's dynamic won't suffer one bit without Laurel. I agree, I did not miss her- I do however still very much miss Roy, Why can't we have Arsenal and Speedy in the field!! Also without her in the lair and in the field we even got Thea and Felicity interacting, 3 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 24, 2016 Author Share March 24, 2016 (edited) Taking into consideration the break, when will they release the episode summary for 4x19? It's probably ending on a cliffhanger but I hope not. Episode descriptions are released 3 weeks prior to the episode airing. If They only skip a week then we should get 419's description next week. If they skip 2 weeks then we get 419's description on 4/6 or 4/7 after the death airs. Based on the promo I'm guessing Laurel uses the Canary Cry in the lair to kill the Bees either while they're still in Oliver or as they come out of his body after they cut him open? Edited March 24, 2016 by Morrigan2575 1 Link to comment
Genki March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 So apparently Echo was on the Afterbuzz tv Arrow aftershow and said: "The calculator might be big on the show soon, oh boy." It would make sense to me if they did bring back The Calculator this season, because I think part of the reason that Felicity can't trust that Oliver has changed is her abandonment issues form her Dad, as well as his latest betrayal. We also still don't now who he was working for and why, that whole storyline was so damn rushed. For Oliver and Felicity to reconcile, Felicity needs to move away from her "people don't change" stance and Oliver need to give a big damn gesture to show that he trusts her and prioritises her. It will be interesting to see Donna's talk with Felicity next week,, though I'm still not sure what Thea is doing at PT with them. 5 Link to comment
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