AyChihuahua May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 (edited) I am wondering if he doesn't stay with the League as Ra's Al Ghul to try and reform them. Even before this recent episode, I would have put down serious money that the answer is no. I'd put down even more money now. This episode showed very clearly that Ra's was lying about Oliver remaking the LOA in his image. (Frankly, that was an idiotOliver moment for me regardless, as only a very stupid person could think he could remake the League of Assassins into something nice. Oliver is just so very dumb now.) If he had taken the offer back then he still would have been just as bad as this Ra's in a few years. This episode showed even more, though, that Oliver wouldn't be able to remake the LOA in his image...instead the League would remake him in its image. Also, everyone is very tired of this whole storyline. Not just us, but lots and lots of other message boards, critics, and I'm willing to bet, the CW. Edited May 4, 2015 by AyChihuahua 4 Link to comment
quarks May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Actually, I would be all for a show where the League of Assassins discuss interior decorating in an electricity free environment, specifically on creating THE romantic getaway for tortured superheroes. This is probably just me. 11 Link to comment
statsgirl May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 It would certainly be better than the current LoA storyline. And given what they gave Oliver for his rendevous with Felicity (the last time I saw that many candles I was in church) and Maseo telling Diggle his room is just an example of the luxury Oliver will get with the League, they've got some good decorating ideas. Maybe they could extend it to a reality show where they travel around the world creating the perfect love next for tired superheroes. That's been a huge pet peeve of mine this season - telling so much of the story (and, at times, a much BETTER story) via the comics. I get the cross promotion angle and all, but the comics shouldn't be used to correct mistakes and/or tell more of the story we'd prefer to have seen on the show. I wonder if they secretly don't want to be writing comics but TV is a better paying gig. The 3.5 comics, for all the bad drawing, was a story I'd rather have seen than this season. 1 Link to comment
Reba May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 I have been trying to think of the craziest suprise twists I can think of. So far 1. Sara is alive, faked her death and is working with maseo. Maseo found out Ra's had the alpha and omega and sent Sara to tell oliver. 2. Ras unleashes the alpha and omega on starling and oliver contacts Barry to reverse time to fix it 3. Nyssa and Malcolm have been working together and planned this to force Oliver to help them so they could take over the league Link to comment
kismet May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 I'm one of those people who find the League outfit super hot. Especially when Oliver's all dead behind the eyes in it, I don't know why. Me too. I think its how he moves in it. I will say it is not the most flattering & I prefer the green. But there is something a little bit more in his swagger. He just oozes power. Best example when he swings the swords around & cuts off/out thea's arrow. Maybe because even though it is huge, I dont feel like the suit wears him-- I feel he wears the suit. Can't say the same for every costume wearer on the show. 7 Link to comment
AyChihuahua May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Okay, but if you guys start writing letters to prison inmates next, just fyi you're taking the bad boy thing way too far. 2 Link to comment
catrox14 May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Evil!Oliver reminds me of when he was all superbadass with two guns when he took on the Russian guys. I think that is the moment when I was all OH HELL YAASS. Badass powerful and scary as fuck Oliver Queen. I needed a cigarette after that scene. /fans self 4 Link to comment
kismet May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Okay, but if you guys start writing letters to prison inmates next, just fyi you're taking the bad boy thing way too far. Surprisingly I actually dont go for bad guys in real life, nor do I generally favor them on tv shows. So this DarthOliver attraction is not common for me. But it helps that I know hes really a good person, who is most likely faking or breaking out of the mind melding. Perhaps its just the confidence in how SA plays it. Hes just more commanding on the screen when he's not tied down to being strictly the guy trying to be the guy that saves everyone & still self loathes himself & denies being a hero.. Perhaps that will change next season when they finally let him accept who he is and actually be a hero & be ok with that. I want swagger without the dose of self-loathing. 3 Link to comment
catrox14 May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 My baseline for Badass Badboys is Dean Winchester. Oliver Queen is now on that continuum about 3 steps behind Dean. Link to comment
BkWurm1 May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 I would call Felicity catching the wedding bouquet and having the camera reference it twice is somewhat substantial narrative evidence as far as foreshadowing goes. Not that I think it trumps all the images of Nyssa and Oliver from the promos. Normally I might agree but MG has said that having her catch the bouquet was something they couldn't resist including which says to me they were just trolling. As for Oliver staying on and trying to reform the LoA, well, if we discover an actual instant transporter between Nanda Parbat and Starling I might buy it but otherwise the sheer logistics of such a storyline are prohibitive. I still think the wedding is only happing so that Oliver and Nyssa will have a legitimate excuse to be near each other so they can plot to take down Ra's which on top of all the other reasons that the wedding annoys me, annoys me because it means that it's only happenstance that allows for Oliver to gain an ally, not anything he does that is smart or clever. It is still possible that in this next episode Oliver will reveal he's not brainwashed only to reveal that he really is brainwashed but I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that's not the case cause I need him to do something smart and proactive at least once this season. 3 Link to comment
kismet May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 But back to the spoilers (or the lack thereof). Definitely think maseo is playing the long con of LoA & has infiltrated them because of the alpha/omega virus. So that might be considered surprising to the general audience (just not fans, reviewers, critics & most def not here). The most surprising thing will be a double cross by MM, but that I believe will come in finale when he reveals his connection to damien darhk. Diggle will forgive OQ for Lyla, but that trust is gonna be shattered or foreshadowed to be broken by something DD regarding Andys death. Think Oliver is playing the role of DarthOliver, but don't think he even thought of it as a plan until he returned to sc & was jolted out of his mind conditioning. Believe he is working it out as he goes, which is why he can't tell TA. Also logistically no opportunity to tell them until perhaps NP. Also why the Nyssa wedding will be used to his advantage. As for the possible O/F marriage, I believe there have been breadcrumbs that point to it, but not strong enough that I would say its gonna happen. But with all the horse racing & boxing matches this weekend, I feel like betting on the underdog. Even if they lose. Honestly, if they dont get married, ill be ok with it too. The main reason willing to bet on o/f wedding is berlanti's comment early on in the season about there not being a lot of married superheroes. Somehow that stuck in my mind, esp considering I think he has a more active role in the finale. I have also explained in this thread about month or so ago why I am in favor of marriage. Feel free to reference it. But the long of it is I think they are gonna be together for many seasons, so why not get married now? Its the marriage relationship that's important, not the wedding. The short of it is I just hate wedding build ups on shows, especially on a show like arrow. There is no excitement or interesting drama that comes from preparing for a wedding that would enhance an arc on arrow. It would likely detract from the show or just seem like something thrown in. I want tightly written scripts, drama & action next season - not a countdown to olicity's wedding. 5 Link to comment
BkWurm1 May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 (edited) Definitely think maseo is playing the long con of LoA & has infiltrated them because of the alpha/omega virus. What makes me doubt Maseo being in on the long con is actually him helping the team try to escape with Oliver. I personally think that Malcolm and Digg could have taken care of the three guys in their way without Maseo's help but let's say that Maseo actually saved them, what good does it do Maseo to let Oliver leave if his mission is to get the virus? He'd want Oliver's help. If there really was a LoA tradition about wiping out a home town then he'd WANT Oliver to be made Heir so that Ra's showed his hand and the virus was taken out of hiding. The main reason willing to bet on o/f wedding is berlanti's comment early on in the season about there not being a lot of married superheroes. Somehow that stuck in my mind, esp considering I think he has a more active role in the finale. [snip] But the long of it is I think they are gonna be together for many seasons, so why not get married now? Its the marriage relationship that's important, not the wedding. The short of it is I just hate wedding build ups on shows, especially on a show like arrow. There is no excitement or interesting drama that comes from preparing for a wedding that would enhance an arc on arrow. It would likely detract from the show or just seem like something thrown in. I want tightly written scripts, drama & action next season - not a countdown to olicity's wedding. They've talked about show changing and jumping the shark and unrecognizable so much that I can't rule out a wedding and if they did it with no muss no fuss, just slipped it in and then pushed forward with a return to the old dynamic (with a few changes like Oliver smiling once and a while and a few home scenes sprinkled in) I think it would do a world of good for the show. The dynamic I crave between Oliver and Felicity is their close, in synch, teaming with that underlying deep care, concern, affection and above all, understanding. I don't need lots of sap and I really don't need angst. Let them be together and let them be functional as possible. Their relationship should support the story being told, not be the story being told. It should weave in and out of it, not be an obstacle or a question. If TPTB could get that through their heads I think they could please a broad section of their audience. Edited May 4, 2015 by BkWurm1 17 Link to comment
Ariah May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Just a side note - and I'm sorry if this was addressed before - but since the Suicide Squad movie uses Tatsu Yamashiro / Katana... Shouldn't we be afraid for our Tatsu's survival?... 3 Link to comment
Kordi May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 (edited) The dynamic I crave between Oliver and Felicity is their close, in synch, teaming with that underlying deep care, concern, affection and above all, understanding. I don't need lots of sap and I really don't need angst. Let them be together and let them be [as] functional as possible. Their relationship should support the story being told, not be the story being told. It should weave in and out of it, not be an obstacle or a question. If I could "like" your statement a thousand times, I'd certainly do it. THIS SO MUCH!!! Edited May 4, 2015 by Kordi 10 Link to comment
catahoulamama May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Evil!Oliver reminds me of when he was all superbadass with two guns when he took on the Russian guys. I think that is the moment when I was all OH HELL YAASS. Badass powerful and scary as fuck Oliver Queen. I needed a cigarette after that scene. /fans self Oh, sorry - nothing...NOTHING tops BAMF Bratva!Oliver for me. The hope of getting Bratva!Oliver in S4 flashbacks has gotten me through this horrible season. 5 Link to comment
catahoulamama May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 But back to the spoilers (or the lack thereof). Definitely think maseo is playing the long con of LoA & has infiltrated them because of the alpha/omega virus. So that might be considered surprising to the general audience (just not fans, reviewers, critics & most def not here). The most surprising thing will be a double cross by MM, but that I believe will come in finale when he reveals his connection to damien darhk. Diggle will forgive OQ for Lyla, but that trust is gonna be shattered or foreshadowed to be broken by something DD regarding Andys death. Think Oliver is playing the role of DarthOliver, but don't think he even thought of it as a plan until he returned to sc & was jolted out of his mind conditioning. Believe he is working it out as he goes, which is why he can't tell TA. Also logistically no opportunity to tell them until perhaps NP. Also why the Nyssa wedding will be used to his advantage. As for the possible O/F marriage, I believe there have been breadcrumbs that point to it, but not strong enough that I would say its gonna happen. But with all the horse racing & boxing matches this weekend, I feel like betting on the underdog. Even if they lose. Honestly, if they dont get married, ill be ok with it too. The main reason willing to bet on o/f wedding is berlanti's comment early on in the season about there not being a lot of married superheroes. Somehow that stuck in my mind, esp considering I think he has a more active role in the finale. I have also explained in this thread about month or so ago why I am in favor of marriage. Feel free to reference it. But the long of it is I think they are gonna be together for many seasons, so why not get married now? Its the marriage relationship that's important, not the wedding. The short of it is I just hate wedding build ups on shows, especially on a show like arrow. There is no excitement or interesting drama that comes from preparing for a wedding that would enhance an arc on arrow. It would likely detract from the show or just seem like something thrown in. I want tightly written scripts, drama & action next season - not a countdown to olicity's wedding. As one who said they'd feel ripped off if they do marry Olicity in a quicky wedding, I'm not looking for a years worth of wedding planning or all that. I'd just prefer it if they'd had a bit more "relationship time", and not even putting that front and center on the show. Just that we all know they're "together" finally instead of: Official first date, separate all season & Felicity dating Ray, Ray kicks HER loose on her way out of town to NP, one night of sex in NP, separate again because Oliver is "lost" to the Loa, and THEN a quicky wedding? Call me old fashioned (and I am), but I'd just prefer it if, after three years, it was shown to be more of deliberate, conscious choice by the characters, rather than a plot device to "surprise" the audience. 4 Link to comment
kismet May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 As one who said they'd feel ripped off if they do marry Olicity in a quicky wedding, I'm not looking for a years worth of wedding planning or all that. I'd just prefer it if they'd had a bit more "relationship time", and not even putting that front and center on the show. Just that we all know they're "together" finally instead of: Official first date, separate all season & Felicity dating Ray, Ray kicks HER loose on her way out of town to NP, one night of sex in NP, separate again because Oliver is "lost" to the Loa, and THEN a quicky wedding? Call me old fashioned (and I am), but I'd just prefer it if, after three years, it was shown to be more of deliberate, conscious choice by the characters, rather than a plot device to "surprise" the audience. I see your point. Agree with some of it; would have preferred a longer courtship perhaps a legit 2nd date without a drugging. Really dont want anyone entering a marriage this season. But since they seem so eager to give us a marriage, I guess I could more easily get over missing a traditional courtship for a nontraditional accelerated track to commitment that at least pushes the characters stories forward and into a new dynamic. All the other marriage options will likely be undone within minutes of s4 premiere so then its just all plot & no character which annoys me. 5 Link to comment
kismet May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Oh, sorry - nothing...NOTHING tops BAMF Bratva!Oliver for me. The hope of getting Bratva!Oliver in S4 flashbacks has gotten me through this horrible season. Bring on the Bratva!!! If they dont have BratvaOliver in the flashbacks this season I will be so upset - words coild not describe it. Plus thematically feel its time. 4 Link to comment
catahoulamama May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Bring on the Bratva!!! If they dont have BratvaOliver in the flashbacks this season I will be so upset - words coild not describe it. Plus thematically feel its time. Agreed. They're going to have a really hard time keeping me in this if they don't do Bratva next season. Fingers crossed that Bratva!Oliver gets a haircut and they burn that godawful wig. LOL 1 Link to comment
statsgirl May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 They have to do Bratva Oliver next season, don't they? Otherwise how do the explain the really long hair when he gets off the island? On the down side, I'm not looking forward to ponytailed Oliver, which is about the only way he could manage the longer hair when he's not hiding out. The main reason willing to bet on o/f wedding is berlanti's comment early on in the season about there not being a lot of married superheroes. Somehow that stuck in my mind, esp considering I think he has a more active role in the finale. Their relationship should support the story being told, not be the story being told. I could see Oliver and Felicity just deciding to get married after the nightmare their lives have been this season and doing it at City Hall/on a jet/in Las Vegas and then letting the show move on except: 1. At this point, it limit storytelling potential. Even Lois and Clark struggled after they got together. Berlanti may decide to marry them off some time in the future but it's too soon in terms the show currently. Curses on MG for even bringing it up. 2. I don't think the show would bury it in a season finale as a sudden wedding -- they'd want maximum publicity and people tuning in to watch it. 1 Link to comment
chaos is welcome May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 I would agreed with the above except....they have always had a loose plan in place, I think, for the five year progression on this show. If they DO tie the knot, it will be like everything else this season....necessary bc plot. It wouldn't surprise me if "the plan" requires oliver to be married for s4. They just were not expecting to need to change their otp, which took time to reposition everything. 2 Link to comment
catahoulamama May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 They have to do Bratva Oliver next season, don't they? Otherwise how do the explain the really long hair when he gets off the island? On the down side, I'm not looking forward to ponytailed Oliver, which is about the only way he could manage the longer hair when he's not hiding out. I could see Oliver and Felicity just deciding to get married after the nightmare their lives have been this season and doing it at City Hall/on a jet/in Las Vegas and then letting the show move on except: 1. At this point, it limit storytelling potential. Even Lois and Clark struggled after they got together. Berlanti may decide to marry them off some time in the future but it's too soon in terms the show currently. Curses on MG for even bringing it up. 2. I don't think the show would bury it in a season finale as a sudden wedding -- they'd want maximum publicity and people tuning in to watch it. ^I'm all about #2. I think that's why it's felt so unlikely since it was mentioned as a possibility. Hard to believe they'd pass up on the PR aspect and ratings by burying it in what will presumably be an overly jam packed finale already. There was a fair amount of buzz and excitement for Diggle and Lyla's wedding, so can't see them passing up the opportunity for build up for an Olicity wedding. No matter if or when it happens, I hope they treat it like the Michaels-Diggle marriage and it's just a fact of life for them and TA. Olicity should be a refuge and support to one another in everything else that goes on in their lives. Their lives (crime fighting, running QC or whatever) should be supplemented by the fact that they're married, not defined by it. 1 Link to comment
nksarmi May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 I can't believe I had to get my PC fixed and haven't checked the site - more of less - in two days and there are no new spoilers! LOL, I am so hoping to get something that supports my hopes that a) Malcolm is working for Ras or Darhk and b) Oliver already had a plan to take down the LoA before he made the deal with Ras - good options for me include some combination of Waller/ARGUS/Maseo/Tatsu. I want both Malcolm AND Oliver to be much smarter than they have shown to be this season. I don't really care if Ras is an idiot or great villain - I just want him gone. It's bad enough that due to his reference that Darhk was his brother that I am now concerned we may see him again at some point next season. 1 Link to comment
steeledwithakiss May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Yep, nothing new. Just us driving ourselves crazy with our speculations. Seriously, Asia is failing us. When is their spoilerish trailer when you need it? I saw on Tumblr that Sebastian Roché would like to play Papa Smoak or Damian Darhk but hasn't been asked yet. I would love him playing one of those two. He's got great charisma and always plays a great villain. 5 Link to comment
calliope1975 May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 I am on board with Sebastian Roche. I think he'd work well with the cast. Was there any payoff for the message hidden in a picture or is that something else that was thrown away? Link to comment
apinknightmare May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 (edited) Was there any payoff for the message hidden in a picture or is that something else that was thrown away? Stegosaurus! Never mentioned again. Edited May 4, 2015 by apinknightmare 1 Link to comment
steeledwithakiss May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Was that the same episode they had a message hidden in Sara's things? I know it was more how the book of names in s1 worked but maybe they just wanted to make a vague reference to secret hidden messages. The flashbacks have felt so disconnected this year. I think they had a plan that would explain how what was going on in HK had something to do with what's going right now in SC but they wanted their got ya moment more. Link to comment
statsgirl May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 You'd think that this would be the perfect time for Oliver to send a hidden message to... someone. Maybe he sent one to Maseo before The Fallen and we'll find out they've been working together the last episode. I was thinking about the spoiler that Diggle won't be able to forgive Oliver what he's done in 321? 322?, and while I"m not happy about Oliver being estranged from Diggle, I understand it's something that does produce drama for the show and if he has to be at odds with someone, I'd rather it be Diggle than Felicity. The separation between Oliver and Felicity this season has just about done me in. 2 Link to comment
apinknightmare May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Nyssa: "I would rather die than to wed this pretender." Ra's: "You speak as if those are the only two options before you, my daughter." What's this third option? Take it, Nyssa. TAKE IT. (Please take it and have the marriage be between two other people) 5 Link to comment
NumberCruncher May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 My reaction after seeing the producer's preview: "I want this season to be over" "I want this season to be over" "I want this season to be over" Yeah, there's absolutely nothing there that appeals to me. :( 13 Link to comment
apinknightmare May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 (edited) Yeah, this is honestly the first ep where I haven't really looked forward to anything. Don't care about (HOT) Evil!Oliver, don't care about fight scenes in Nanda Parbat, don't care about an idiotic forced marriage, don't care about Ray flying around getting new data for Google Maps. I'll watch it though. Like an idiot. Edited May 4, 2015 by apinknightmare 8 Link to comment
steeledwithakiss May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Nyssa: "I would rather die than to wed this pretender." Ra's: "You speak as if those are the only two options before you, my daughter." What's this third option? Take it, Nyssa. TAKE IT. (Please take it and have the marriage be between two other people) I think the third option is going to be the reason she accepts the marriage. Link to comment
apinknightmare May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 I think the third option is going to be the reason she accepts the marriage. What do you mean? She's presenting the two options she has: to die or to marry him. If there's a third option, it's not death and it's not marriage. Link to comment
steeledwithakiss May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 (edited) I don't see Nyssa accepting as of now, she'd rather die she said it a few times already. And I really believe her so I think Ra's is going to tell her something, the third option, that's going to make her accept the marriage. I have no idea what though. Edited May 4, 2015 by steeledwithakiss Link to comment
AyChihuahua May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Sara, maybe? That he LPd her and has her? That's really the only thing I can think of that would make Nyssa go along. 1 Link to comment
Sunshine May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 (edited) Have the shippers been given more information to update their O/F wedding theories?! LOL! When MG mentions the wedding the promo cuts to Felicity and then Oliver and then mentions a fight in the sands of Nanda Parbat. (I don't think they are. I just find the cutting of the scenes with the audio interesting.) Edited May 4, 2015 by Sunshine Link to comment
apinknightmare May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 I guess maybe I'm just hung up on the wording? If marrying Oliver and choosing death aren't her only two options, then what exactly is the third? He could have Sara, sure, but...even if he used Sara to threaten Nyssa she'd still probably have to marry Oliver. What is the third option that doesn't involve marrying Oliver or death? Would she have to marry someone else? Link to comment
steeledwithakiss May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 (edited) Maybe lock her up for the rest of her life? She couldn't kill herself and he'd torture her maybe? Edited May 4, 2015 by steeledwithakiss Link to comment
Sunshine May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Ra's did make it sound like she had more than 2 options (marriage or death). What they are, I have no idea (and neither does Nyssa). 1 Link to comment
apinknightmare May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Maybe lock her up for the rest of her life? Maybe, although she'd probably choose death. Maybe it involves challenging Ra's to a duel? She already thinks she has to marry Oliver though, so why he'd present a third option that wasn't more appealing than doing that or dying (since they are both terrible choices to her), I don't know. More villainous failure, I guess. Link to comment
Chaser May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 (edited) Kill her and then bring her back by the LP? Maybe there is a side effect we don't know about yet. I'm more excited about Thea and Roy then anything in Nanda. Laurel can't take down a freakin' mugger in SC but she has no problem against a herd of LOA? Edited May 4, 2015 by 10Eleven12 1 Link to comment
steeledwithakiss May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 The way they are writing her fight skills gives me a headache. Instead of having her get better little by little, she's like competent then not, then yes then not so much. It's just weird. 8 Link to comment
apinknightmare May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 (edited) I wonder if the third option is that Nyssa will have to drop the Alpha/Omega virus on Starling City herself? Or something along those lines...like he's testing her will. Edited May 4, 2015 by apinknightmare 2 Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Just saw the clip, and I was just about to post the same thing steeledwithakiss just did. It's really ridiculous and takes me out what would probably be a pretty solid fight scene. Link to comment
catahoulamama May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 My reaction after seeing the producer's preview: "I want this season to be over" "I want this season to be over" "I want this season to be over" Yeah, there's absolutely nothing there that appeals to me. :( Same. I found it less interesting than the promo they ran after last week's episode, which did nothing for me. I'm inclined to think this whole thing may have been a test of Nyssa all along and maybe her other option is to run the LoA herself? Ugh, just end it already and stop the insanity. LOL 1 Link to comment
tarotx May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 (edited) One option is to die. Another is Marry Oliver, have him ascen to Ra's and him poison Starling city. Nyssa's 3Rd options must be something as evil. Something that would put Ra's trust back into Nyssa? I mean she said she rather die then marry the pretender to the throne. Maybe something like her fighting and killing Ra's, poisonimg some city/starling to prove she will obey the LOA traditions? Is Nyssa ready to take to heart the evil traditions of Ra's? That was one of Ra's plans all along in the comics. Push his daughters to believe as him. Edited May 5, 2015 by tarotx 1 Link to comment
dcinmb May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 Oliver must actually be brainwashed . . . he actually said "Raysh" in that clip. Just kidding . . . I hope. I'm in Turkey so I haven't seen the last few eps. :( Link to comment
apinknightmare May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 He probably would want to make her prove her loyalty to him by spreading that virus, especially since she basically stole it from him to keep him from doing it. Reluctance to commit to thing Ra's wants her to commit to? Check! Convinced that makes her a great candidate for a sucessor? Check! Typical Ra's! Link to comment
Chaser May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 I like Nyssa but I'm starting to resent her. MG said she will be very important in the final three episodes of the season so I imagine that she is going to be getting quite a bit of screen time, especially if you look at that preview clip. Can this show please go back to Oliver Queen & Company now? 12 Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 I like Nyssa but I'm starting to resent her. MG said she will be very important in the final three episodes of the season so I imagine that she is going to be getting quite a bit of screen time, especially if you look at that preview clip. Can this show please go back to Oliver Queen & Company now? Don't quite resent her yet, just because she only really showed up again last week. But yeah, I'm not a fan of other characters aside from original Team Arrow getting the focus during the last episodes of the season. Utterly crazy thought. Guggenheim said something that if we're not surprised by the end of 322, then we're "unsurprisable," or something like that. Any chance of Laurel getting killed, getting Pitted and coming back as a villain? Would play to the actor's strength. Nope? Yeah, I did say crazy, right? I'm just so bored by all the teases for this ep. 2 Link to comment
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