bijoux August 29, 2016 Share August 29, 2016 But if it's 503-505 dealing with the effects of FP, wouldn't that mean that 501&502 are unaffected by it? Which makes no sense to me, but that's how I read the tweet. Link to comment
Guest August 29, 2016 Share August 29, 2016 They said 503-505 would be dealing with the fallout of flashpoint so I'm assuming 501-502 is actually when flashpoint takes place. Link to comment
Chaser August 29, 2016 Share August 29, 2016 Several of the first episodes and character arcs are influenced by another show. S4 *COUGH* S5 is testing me. 13 Link to comment
bijoux August 29, 2016 Share August 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Chaser said: Several of the first episodes and character arcs are influenced by another show. S4 *COUGH* S5 is testing me. Honestly, I can take a lot, but this irks me beyond words. 6 Link to comment
looptab August 29, 2016 Share August 29, 2016 About what DR said at the Con: He said that the helmet could do things last year, too. Or was it the gun, then? Either way, it was barely, if ever, shown. So either he is trolling us, or they are trolling him. Have Curtis and the Star Labs people ever met? I honestly can't remember. 2 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 August 29, 2016 Author Share August 29, 2016 Pretty sure it was the gun. Which really didn't do anything except have magic bullets that don't kill. I can see them using the helmet to zoom in like a binocular, that's not a big deal. Would even expect the helmet to have night vision which we be cool and easy enough to do. 1 Link to comment
hogwash August 29, 2016 Share August 29, 2016 I don't care what it does as long it looks better. Go back to ski masks! 3 Link to comment
Chaser August 29, 2016 Share August 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said: Pretty sure it was the gun. Which really didn't do anything except have magic bullets that don't kill. I can see them using the helmet to zoom in like a binocular, that's not a big deal. Would even expect the helmet to have night vision which we be cool and easy enough to do. I just pictured Diggle with Geordi La Forge's visor. 4 Link to comment
bijoux August 29, 2016 Share August 29, 2016 42 minutes ago, looptab said: Have Curtis and the Star Labs people ever met? I honestly can't remember. Not on screen. Doesn't mean they don't not only know him, but love him as well. But I assume Felicity is still in constant contact with them and it makes sense that he would be too seeing as he's hanging out in the bunker. 1 Link to comment
dtissagirl August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 Dear Steve, either your buddy StarFace lied to you, or you're spreading a spin for kicks, but he did play a fictional character on an episode of Warehouse 13 in 2010. He even had to go to Toronto to shoot it, and had to film additional behind the scenes stuff for the SyFy channel to promote the episode, because they actually have more monies for that kind of thing than your current employers. 3 Link to comment
tv echo August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 Another apt tweet from Laura Hurley... Remember her previous tweet? 1 Link to comment
Guest August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 Sorry but who is Laura Hurley? Does she work on the show? Link to comment
FurryFury August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 I think it's a reviewer who seems to be popular around these parts. 1 Link to comment
Velocity23 August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 Quote Meunier will play Ishmael Gregor, the slick and intimidating Pakhan (“Godfather”) of the Bratva, whom Anatoly (David Nykl) reports and takes a special interest in Oliver Queen. In the comics, Gregor was a Russian crime boss who craved the magical abilities of the demon Sabbac; however we will be exploring his more earthly ambitions. 1 Link to comment
statsgirl August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 Finally something I'm excited for. Anatoly always seemed too nice to me to be the Pakhan. 1 Link to comment
bethy August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 I only know Meunier from Justified (oh another Justified connection!) and thought he was great. 1 Link to comment
calliope1975 August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, bethy said: I only know Meunier from Justified (oh another Justified connection!) and thought he was great. Ooo, one of the Crowder boys. Thumbs up from me! 2 Link to comment
lemotomato August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 (edited) I'm glad that the show really stepped up their game in casting the Big Bads after they screwed up with Ra's. Neal McDonough last year and now Chad L. Coleman and David Meunier this year. I'm more excited about the bad guys than anything else I've heard about the season. The stills from 501 are interesting. I wonder who else gets kidnapped along with Oliver, and if they're the reason why he resorts to killing. Edited August 30, 2016 by lemotomato 1 Link to comment
NumberCruncher August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 I'm ridiculously excited about the David Meunier casting--even more so than I was with Neal McDonough last year. He was a standout on Justified, IMO. I think he'll knock being the Bratva king out of the park. I'm with you, lemotomato, the bad guy casting this season is probably the only thing that is giving me a reason to watch. The rest? Not so much. 5 Link to comment
bethy August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 (edited) Quote -- SA: "The suit changes in Season 5. That's a good question. Uh, we added sleeves back onto the suit for a variety of reasons. Um, one of the reasons will be explained on the show. But one of the other reasons was that, I'm not a method actor by any means. Um, but I do like to embody my character a little bit. And when you're the Arrow and you're 'uhhg, Arrow' (using deep, growly voice and raising fist), uh, it's a little bit tough when after every take, when you're filming on a rooftop at 3 o' clock in the morning in November, you go, 'can I have my puffy coat please?' I don't want that... I want to, like, really embody the character. So that was one of many reasons why we added sleeves back onto the suit for this year... And also, it's a nice, um, nod to the character you see in Legends, Oliver in 2046." As I was reading "it's a nice, um, nod to the character..." my head went immediately to, "OMG, he's going to say it's to honor the Black Canary, and they've added fishnet, fingerless gloves!?!" Thank goodness, I was wrong. As nice as Amell's arms are, I'm glad to see the sleeves are back. Edited August 30, 2016 by bethy 3 Link to comment
Guest August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 (edited) Damn, how long has it been since Oliver was on the island because dude's hair has grown super quick. Does he take supplements? LOL. Promo pics not all that interesting tbh but it's always nice to see Anatoly. Also there seems to be 3 other people who were kidnapped along with Oliver so I'm not sure if he'll risk killing anyone when he's so visible. Makes me wonder when these deaths actually happen. Flashbacks? Edited August 30, 2016 by Guest Link to comment
bijoux August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 (edited) 26 minutes ago, lemotomato said: The stills from 501 are interesting. I wonder who else gets kidnapped along with Oliver, and if they're the reason why he resorts to killing. Two other dudes and one lady as far as I can tell. I imagine if there are other hostages there, it's reason for Oliver not to kill, since those people could then pinpoint the new mayor as a killer. Unless he'd be willing to off them as well. And I don't care if there are 12 simultaneous Flashpoints, that does not fit Oliver's character at any point in time we have seen. 4 minutes ago, bethy said: As nice as Amell's arms are, I'm glad to see the sleeves are back. I'm glad for the sleeves too, and it's better than last year. The jacket is still nothing to write home about IMO. Aside from the full face mask, which is not a bad idea, the Prometheus suit is really a take on the Arrow suit. It must be intentional. His quiver is even strapped across the chest like Oliver's used to be. Did he maybe steal the old Arrow suit from the police station or just use it for inspiration? Edited August 30, 2016 by bijoux 1 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 August 30, 2016 Author Share August 30, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, bijoux said: Two other dudes and one lady as far as I can tell. I imagine if there are other hostages there, it's reason for Oliver not to kill, since those people could then pinpoint the new mayor as a killer. Unless he'd be willing to off them as well. And I don't care if there are 12 simultaneous Flashpoints, that does not fit Oliver's character at any point in time we have seen. I'm glad for the sleeves too, and it's better than last year. The jacket is still nothing to write home about IMO. Aside from the full face mask, which is not a bad idea, the Prometheus suit is really a take on the Arrow suit. It must be intentional. His quiver is even strapped across the chest like Oliver's used to be. Did he maybe steal the old Arrow suit from the police station or just use it for inspiration? Isn't that the same thing from the Pilot? Their heads are covered just like Tommy's and he killed those guys in the Pilot too. Not sure of the difference if they can't see anything he can just as easily claim The Arrow did it and, they'd probably believe him because it's SC. Edited August 30, 2016 by Morrigan2575 Link to comment
bijoux August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 True. Althoug I think Tommy was also tased or something because he just caught a hazy glimpse of Oliver. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 August 30, 2016 Author Share August 30, 2016 (edited) Drugged or tased, he was definitely out of it. I just think the writers in their, Back To Basics, I ❤ S1 mode just decided....Wouldn't it be cool if we reenacted the pilot? Hey people have been complaining that Oliver doesn’t kill, so let's have him snap a bunch of necks just like the Pilot! Anything else will be handwaved by the other characters. Edited August 30, 2016 by Morrigan2575 5 Link to comment
lemotomato August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 I think it would be in character for Oliver to resort to killing if it meant saving others' lives. He did it for Felicity, and sort of for Thea in 309. And like @Morrigan2575 suggested, Oliver could just blame the vigilantes. Link to comment
Chaser August 30, 2016 Share August 30, 2016 I was joking about them killing Lyla, but with actress getting a regular gig I wonder if they are doing something drastic like removing Lyla from the timeline. If so, Diggle better kill Barry. 6 Link to comment
looptab August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 I really hope they don't resort to killing her. Work around it, FFS, it's not like she showed up much to start with. Maybe this could be an incentive to have some more Diggle/Felicity scenes, when they need Diggle's POV. Come on, writers! 2 Link to comment
bijoux August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Velocity23 said: Season 5 of Arrow since we're dealing with the aftermath of Barry's Unbelievable Stupidity in 503-505? 2 Link to comment
Belinea August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 (edited) “Felicity is still dealing with -- she directed a missile at 20,000 people and they died,” she continued. “This is the first time she’s coming face to face with the reality of ‘Oh my god, I’m responsible for the deaths of [all these] people. For they (Oliver/Felicity) both are character-wise, the relationship is not at the top of their priority list right now.” Sometimes I feel like they give Felicity a potentially good storyline but manage to screw it up along the way. And I doubt that it is the thought that counts in this case. Also, I have no idea what they try to achieve by downgrading the relationship. I mean, last season they had them engaged. If you don't want the relationship to be so important, don't write in such a manner. Afterwards you won't have to do a complete 180 turn. Edited August 31, 2016 by Belinea 13 Link to comment
apinknightmare August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 Quote For where they (Oliver/Felicity) both are character-wise, the relationship is not at the top of their priority list right now.” I hope that means Felicity's boyfriend is FP-related. If not then DAMN IT, WENDY. 8 Link to comment
Guest August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 So if O/F's relationship is not their priority (I can understand that actually), why does Felicity need a new boyfriend? I'm crossing my fingers that he really is Flashpoint related because otherwise none of it makes sense. It's a total contradiction. Link to comment
Starfish35 August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 Quote “The relationship, much to the chagrin to the Laurel fans, was borne out of that symbiotic relationship between the writers, what we were seeing on the dailies and the actors. We’re going to stay consistent on that,” she said. “We’re going to continue to see where these characters lead us. So it could go where the Olicity fans want… or not.” LOL. I think it's hilarious that she would throw that in there. 7 Link to comment
Guest August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 Just now, Starfish35 said: LOL. I think it's hilarious that she would throw that in there. Haha. I find it funny because I don't think a true Laurel fan would want Laurel with Oliver. He treated her terribly. Link to comment
looptab August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 She was 5 words away from saying 'Laurel and Oliver's scenes sucked balls', haha. 6 Link to comment
bijoux August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 Dolph Lundgren apparently shows up in 506 which starts shooting today and he was in the production offices. Was he cast as Kovar? Because I can't find it stated outright. Link to comment
Guest August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 Haha, that's why SA said 506 was one of his favorite episodes. He's so predictable. Link to comment
bijoux August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 I honestly think his predictability runs more along the lines of promoting the current or upcoming thing as his favorite. 2 Link to comment
Belinea August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 Well, I have decided that his opinion and mine differ greatly after hearing him say over and over again that he truly likes the BM storyline, 4 Link to comment
tv echo August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 (edited) 37 minutes ago, bijoux said: Dolph Lundgren apparently shows up in 506 which starts shooting today and he was in the production offices. Was he cast as Kovar? Because I can't find it stated outright. Yes, DL was cast as Kovar. From my S5 spoilers compilation... Quote Kovar -- WM: “In our flashbacks in Russia — we’re set in Russia this season — we are going to be bringing in Dolph Lundgren as one of our big bads." This character was actually mentioned toward the end of S4, when Taiana referred to the Russian villain Kovar. WM: “He is somebody we heard about in season 4... Kovar. We are going to bring him in and he’s going to be this super big badass guy who works for the Russian government, and is not a friend of Oliver or the Bratva. It’s part of Oliver’s promise to Taiana at the end of season 4 and it’s going to be interesting because it’s going to get complicated and very messed up very fast.” (TCA Summer Press Tour, Aug. 11, 2016: Entertainment Weekly article, page 42 of Spoilers thread) -- Chris E. Hayner tweeted: "Dolph Lundgren starts filming soon. He will appear in three episodes. #Arrow #TCA16." (TCA Summer Press Tour, Aug. 11, 2016: CHayner tweet, page 42 of Spoilers thread and page 1117 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- It’s not just crime bosses Oliver has to fear as he tries to keep his promise to ill-fated island pal Taiana, to tell her parents what happened to her and brother Vlad. A new Big Bad, played by Dolph Lundgren, also awaits him in the flashbacks. WM: “[Dolph’s character] is a government strongman... He is scary and formidable — and he had a role in some stuff with Taiana’s family last season. He’s a bit of a badass.” (Aug. 20, 2016 TVLine article, page 42 of Spoilers thread) -- Dolph Lundgren, who plays the Russian big bad Kovar, will give Oliver and SA a run for his money. WM: “Stephen’s excited to take him on... He’s a force of a nature, and Stephen -- and Oliver -- will have to take that on and figure out how to conquer [him].” (Aug. 31, 2016 ETonline article, page 43 of Spoilers thread) -- On Aug. 31, 2016, Dolph Lundgren was in the Arrow production office. (ArrowProdOffice tweet, page 43 of Spoilers thread) David Meunier is a 43-year-old American actor. He is approximately 6' tall... IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1635108/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/david_meunier Edited August 31, 2016 by tv echo 1 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 August 31, 2016 Author Share August 31, 2016 (edited) Per BFS tweet. Kosh says "So it begins" at the end of S1 Babylon 5. It marks the start of the Shadow War which covered S2 and beyond. Hmm, I wonder what the joke could be? There are so many ways to go if ut's Kosh related. Edited August 31, 2016 by Morrigan2575 3 Link to comment
tv echo August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 (edited) Note that the guy holding the gun on Oliver is identified: "Mike Dopud as Viktor." Mike Dopud is a 48-year-old Canadian actor, stuntman and athlete. His height is 6'0". Episode 501 must be his Arrow debut because no Arrow credits show up on his IMDB page (yet)... IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0233304/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/dopudmike Edited August 31, 2016 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 (edited) I figured out the real identity of 'Prometheus' - he's Malcolm Merlyn in a modified Dark Archer costume. And he'll be defeated by Oliver and unmasked in a climactic fight in the back half of S5. Then he'll be presumed dead, but come back in S6. Wash, rinse, repeat... ;) Edited August 31, 2016 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 (edited) Once again, TV Fanatic gets its facts wrong (and conveniently forgets about Felicity)... Quote Team Arrow is down to the bare bones. From what we know, as we roll into Arrow Season 5 Episode 1, the only members on it are Green Arrow and Speedy, and one of them is jumping off. Edited August 31, 2016 by tv echo 1 Link to comment
tv echo August 31, 2016 Share August 31, 2016 (edited) The TVLine article that @bijoux just posted in the Spoilers thread also included this update on that Blind Item that was previously discussed in this forum... Quote Question: Any hint on the recent Blind Item you told us about? —Eric Ausiello: It’s not a show on CBS, which leaves ABC, Fox, NBC and The CW. And the series in question is back on the air in the next month. Edited August 31, 2016 by tv echo 1 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 August 31, 2016 Author Share August 31, 2016 Well you can rule CW shows out since they don't start to until October. 7 Link to comment
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