NFL Thread

[bluegirl147]

5 hours ago, Bastet said:

It doesn't; this is some hideously sexist (not to mention outdated, to the extent the stereotype ever existed) bullshit where men love the Super Bowl and women love Valentine's Day, so having both on the same day will create a nationwide argument among heterosexual couples as to how to spend that afternoon/evening.

Yeah it's not like women watch the Super Bowl or anything.

[Carey]

It's basically similar to Mother's & Father's Day as it relates to the PGA and other spring weekend activities on those weekend days.

At the end of the day, nothing the NFL has or hasn't done that both result in a negative outburst has wrecked their league.  It is closer to nothing than the opposite, but that conflict is not nothing either on an exclusive level. 

That may be just my opinion, but every year I hear (and see) a lot of crap about Valentine's Day on a level higher than respectively seeing & hearing Christmas decorations & music between Halloween & Thanksgiving.

The fact is that like other things in life, people are going to make a decision on that day & weekend; they're going to do what they want to do on 02.14.27.  Some people might celebrate on Saturday, Sunday during Brunch, or not at all.  It's going to be a small percentage overall, and the outcome will be that the National Football League will continue on like every other year, period.

Either way, it's still pretty damn late to have the Super Bowl within a calendar year, that ITA with.

[bluegirl147]

If a SB falls on Valentine's Day I imagine it would easy to get a table at a restaurant that doesn't have TV's. Everyone knows places not having SB parties like movie theaters are not crowded on that particular Sunday.

[Carey]

That is very true

[Carey]

Bluegirl147: I guess I've made a bigger deal than necessary, but to be fair to myself, Ari tweeted that as if he thought of it first.  Not me.  And I totally didn't think of it first I don't believe, not that it's a competition to do so.

I will say that it's a 50/50 situation IMO with how the league will handle things in 2 years.  On one hand, they know that whatever their final decision is will be okay, regardless of the several people whining about it.  On the other hand, the NFL is (extremely) petty.  They want to maximize everything which includes getting as much people tuning into their product as possible.

Not just nationwide, but worldwide.  To be honest, the first thing they can do is get better at officiating.  That, and do away with that goofy looking kickoff.

[Crashcourse]

I don't mind having the Super Bowl on Valentine's Day, then after having great sex the couple yells Touchdown!  

[mojoween]

15 hours ago, Marley said:

Who cares if the Superbowl is on Valentine's Day lol I don't get why that matters.

My annoyance had nothing to do with V Day, it’s the fact that mid-February is too late for the Super Bowl.  The Super Bowl in January was FINE.

[merylinkid]

17 hours ago, shoregirl said:

https://share.inquirer.com/IzZOWt

Ryan Quigley was injured in the terrorist attack in New Orleans on New Years Day and his best friend and fellow Eagles fan was killed. The Eagles invited him to the divisional playoff game and the Superbowl. When several players saw him along the parade route they brought him on the bus and then Saquon brought him up to give his speech with him. 

 

This is also awesome.  This young man saved his sister by child vering her body with his when their car was hit after the place crash in Northeast Philly.  AJ Brown went and visited him in the hospital after the Superbowl win.

 

 

This story makes me cry every time I read it.   That brave little boy.   His dad feels so much guilt because the boy asked "Did I save my sister?"   Dad said that was his job, not his son's to protect the kids.   (the little girl is just fine btw).   I get why dad feels that way.   But dad DID save his family.   He floored it to get the car out of there.   He did what he needed to do at that moment.  He was driving.   he needed to do that.   If he had stopped ot protect the kids, none of them might have made it.   But I still understand the guilt because his son had brain surgery and almost didn't make it, while dad had not a scratch on him.   

[Court]

I'm a woman and the super bowl on Valentine's Day sounds perfect to me, lol. 

Edited February 17 by Court

[Salacious Kitty]

Something like seven more women have come forward to make allegations against Justin Tucker. Ejaculate was mentioned. 

He's disgusting. 

[Carey]

Not sure what Baltimore is waiting for

[Salacious Kitty]

Maybe this latest development will light a fire under their asses. 

eta Confirmed that it's seven more women. This is becoming Deshaun Watson levels of  disturbing. 

Edited February 16 by Salacious Kitty

[meowmommy]

10 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Maybe this latest development will light a fire under their asses. 

eta Confirmed that it's seven more women. This is becoming Deshaun Watson levels of  disturbing. 

Seems pretty obvious that if the Ravens cut him, it will be because he didn’t have his usual All-Pro season, not because of anything he did to mere women.

[Carey]

Seems pretty obvious that if the Ravens cut him, it will be because Baltimore acquired video from TMZ that features proof of what the guy is accused of doing

[mojoween]

Tracks.

 

[mojoween]

Please please please please let this be satire.

 

[mojoween]

It’s confusing how “tush push” as a nickname stuck, but the far superior “brotherly shove” did not.

[bluegirl147]

19 minutes ago, mojoween said:

It’s confusing how “tush push” as a nickname stuck, but the far superior “brotherly shove” did not.

I'm dying to know which team wants it banned.  I could see Jerry Jones being the whiner.

[merylinkid]

Packers.   Pro Football Talk revealed it.

Jerry Jones would  have to realize his team can't do it all, let alone well, in order for him to want it banned.  I don't think he's that coherent.

[bluegirl147]

18 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

Packers.   Pro Football Talk revealed it.

Jerry Jones would  have to realize his team can't do it all, let alone well, in order for him to want it banned.  I don't think he's that coherent.

Well that is not a good look for them.  Instead of trying to prevent everyone for doing something you don't do well find out what you do well and do it.

[shoregirl]

Not surprising as the  Oackers president was complaining about it last week.

 

If there's no skill involved then why can't every team do it? Also teams have had years to figure out how to stop it.

It works for the Eagles because they have a elite o-line and a quarterback who can squat 600 lbs. They don't run it unless Jalen Hurts is in . They didn't  run it with Kenny Pickett when Hurts was out with a concussion.

[Fukui San]

Sometimes successful strategies are legislated out for being boring, unattractive, or game warping. Some examples I can think of are hockey’s neutral zone trap, baseball’s infield shift, or playing defense too well for Peyton Manning’s liking 

[Marley]

The tush push is boring as hell so I hope it is banned lol.

[Magog]

3 hours ago, Marley said:

The tush push is boring as hell so I hope it is banned lol.

I actually like the tush push & I see nothing wrong with it, so the Packers can get bent & get the hell on somewhere. If those fools say that its about player safety, then I really wouldn't believe them. 

I would much rather see the kickoff go back to what it used to be. I find the current kickoff to be downright boring & a lot less fun. There was nothing wrong with the former kickoff set up so whoever in the NFL (team and/owner) set up the current kickoff where 90% of the time it ends up in the endzone is an absolute idiot. Also, there was nothing wrong with the onside kick that it needed to be tweaked to make it even more automatic & less fun than it used to be.

 

[Black Knight]

I don't think something should be banned when it's something only one team can do for what in league history will amount to a brief span of time. The Eagles won't have their superior O-line forever, and as Hurts gets older they'll shut the play down eventually. 

If every team was doing this, there'd be a valid conversation about whether it's worth writing a rule.

[Carey]

I have to agree here.  At first, I'd had leaned toward the league banning the tush push.  However, it's a small part of a typical game.  I'd play better to where Philadelphia can use the move all they want but in a loss.

Or they can find a way to stop it.  Unless I'm mistaken, it might be easier to try to replicate something in practice over teams trying to replicate Lamar Jackson.  There's nothing like the latter, but I don't know how hard other teams have attempted to stop the tush push in practice.  Of course, there's only one Hurts but I think trying to find something close to him doesn't seem to difficult IMO.

[merylinkid]

You can't really practice stopping the tush push in practice, because you can't really replicate the tush push on offense.   Unless you have Jalen Hurts and the O line to practice against.

Do I wish it were banned for safety reasons?   Yes.   Ask Jason Kelce how he felt being at the bottom of the pile.  But should it be banned because other teams can't stop it?   Waaah, cry me a river.   Don't let the Eagles get into a position of short yardage where it would be effective.   

Oh and that situation with the Commanders when the Eagles almost got awarded a score because the defense was over anticipating the play?   That's allllllll on the Commanders being stupid.    The Eagles were clearly baiting them and they fell for it.

[bluegirl147]

Getting a competitive edge is all part of the game.  Some receivers can do the tip toe catches on the sidelines. Some can't.  Do we ban those next?

[mojoween]

THIS HURTS MY FEELINGS 😭

 

[mojoween]

All that yammering about Matthew Stafford and he’s not even going anywhere.

Which is FINE, I didn’t want him ANYWAY.

[bluegirl147]

14 minutes ago, mojoween said:

All that yammering about Matthew Stafford and he’s not even going anywhere.

Which is FINE, I didn’t want him ANYWAY.

He was also rumored to be going to the Steelers. As is Sam Darnold. And Kurt Cousins. And Aaron Rogers.

[shoregirl]

Sorry (or Congrats) Giants fans. 

[mariad]

Please God, no.  

 

[mojoween]

No.  Can they do an opinion poll?  NO.

[Salacious Kitty]

2 hours ago, shoregirl said:

Sorry (or Congrats) Giants fans. 

Aaron Rodgers said he wants to go to a GOOD team. 

[baldryanr]

1 hour ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Aaron Rodgers said he wants to go to a GOOD team. 

Too bad for him that good teams are usually pretty happy with their current QB.

[Fukui San]

The franchise beat Tom Brady twice! It must be good!

[mojoween]

Hey, he didn’t say *when* the franchise had to be good.

[merylinkid]

I know the Giants are desperate but are they THAT desperate?

[Fukui San]

Speaking of the Giants, the way they showed their ass last year on Hard Knocks has made it impossible to find a team willing to do it this year. I thought Goodell would have been able to force some team but apparently not. 

So instead they’re turning to Belichick’s UNC team.  
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-bill-belichick-unc-to-appear-on-offseason-hard-knocks

 

[Black Knight]

I just love that Rodgers wanted to go to the Rams and said he'd bring Adams with him and the Rams were like, "No thanks."

[Marley]

Rodgers needs to retire.

[Salacious Kitty]

3 hours ago, Marley said:

Rodgers needs to retire.

His massive ego won't let him. He has to break his leg or something to force him out. 

Edited Yest. at 09:00 PM by Salacious Kitty

[Carey]

5 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

His massive ego won't let him. He had to break his leg or something to force him out. 

Maybe he can dance.  Just do the salsa with the lady and rip the Achilles

[Calvada]

I have no strong feelings about the tush push.  If teams want to risk their QB, let them.  And yes, I realize they are at risk with each snap of the ball.  But every other play the goal is to keep those defensive players from hitting your QB! 

As an old fogey Packers' fan, whenever I see the tush push in a game it makes me think of the iconic picture of Bart Starr scoring the winning TD in the Ice Bowl with Chuck Mercein holding up his arms as if indicating touchdown.  What Mercein was actually doing was showing the officials he had not aided Starr into the end zone which at the time would have been a penalty.  

I wonder if Rodgers is realizing that his age and injury history, combined with his overall loopiness, have decreased his value, that he is not the hot commodity he thinks he is.  Perhaps he will not sign with anyone and wait in a dark room with a jug of ayahuasca to be summoned as a savior if a team loses their QB in preseason or early in the season.  

 

[Black Knight]

I know he has a massive ego, but I'm sort of surprised that he's not retiring because of his massive ego, because what's happening now should be embarrassing. I read that his camp is reaching out to teams. His camp is reaching out to teams, not that teams are reaching out to him. That isn't the norm when a QB is desired. Remember all the wooing Tom Brady got? Kurt Warner? Heck, just this week Matt Stafford? The Giants called Matt Stafford, but Rodgers is calling the Giants. Where's the multi-team tour that the top available QBs get? And all of this is on top of the reporting that Rodgers told the Jets he wanted to stay and they dumped him.

He probably will end up with some team eventually (please not the Raiders), just because there are QB-needy teams not all of whom will be able to find an answer in the draft or elsewhere in free agency, and he's willing not to demand max pay, and I guess his massive ego is working in the sense that he thinks that he'll be able to make everyone else sorry when he goes and wins a second Super Bowl even though he'll be another year older.

[baldryanr]

3 hours ago, Black Knight said:

I know he has a massive ego, but I'm sort of surprised that he's not retiring because of his massive ego, because what's happening now should be embarrassing.

I guarantee he thinks he's the victim of a bunch of woke franchises refusing to hire him because of his views on vaccines and other things, not because they think he's now a crappy QB.  This ignores all evidence indicating some NFL franchises are willing to excuse virtually anything if a player will help them win (see Deshaun Watson).

[mojoween]

Deebo is worth more than a fifth round pick, no?

[bluegirl147]

25 minutes ago, baldryanr said:

I guarantee he thinks he's the victim of a bunch of woke franchises refusing to hire him because of his views on vaccines and other things, not because they think he's now a crappy QB.  This ignores all evidence indicating some NFL franchises are willing to excuse virtually anything if a player will help them win (see Deshaun Watson).

If only Watson had helped them win.

Rodgers wants to keep playing because what else is he going to do?  Be on Pat McAfee's show every day? He isn't married and doesn't have any kids.  I can't imagine him coaching or going to ESPN or another network.  

[Marley]

He can live his life lol. He is tarnishing his legacy he's a joke now. Who cares he has no wife or kids he can still not ruin what good he did back in the day.