twoods October 25 Share October 25 Still had to score a TD and two point conversion and they were at their own 20. I’ve seen much worse calls at the end of the game. But you’re right- every team will get some missed calls that alter the course of the game. Thats how it goes. 2 Link to comment
Carey October 25 Share October 25 37 minutes ago, Calvada said: Wow, what was that official looking at? He was right behind Darnold as the defender tried to do a 180 with his head. Not one official saw that? As a Packers fan, I should enjoy watching this happen to the Vikes. But I know our turn will come. Every team in the league will get screwed by the officials at some point this season. Not to say that the NFL is scripted, but if it (truly) wasn't, then that gets called. Especially when a less than borderline play gets called in a Chiefs/Bengals game that effects winning or losing. As a Steelers fans, that was fine in terms of overall placement, but it was total crap on that night at Arrowhead 1 Link to comment
roamyn October 25 Share October 25 45 minutes ago, Carey said: Not to say that the NFL is scripted, but if it (truly) wasn't, then that gets called Right now it's being scripted by the 'Stroud writer'. *tm Tom Grossi. That grab happened so fast, we couldn't tell in real time. Only slow mo made it clear. And Darnold was off on many throws 2nite that the Vikings likely wouldn't have tied it up. 2 Link to comment
merylinkid October 25 Share October 25 I knew a safety was coming anyway. Darnold was not getting out of that end zone. Bad calls are part of the game, just like the weather. You play the game so the bad calls don't hurt you. The Vikings had to settle for a field goal instead of a tD. Maybe that TD changes the whole vibe of the game in the Vikings favor and the Rams never regroup. Or maybe there's a reason Darnold is on his 4th team. 3 Link to comment
Calvada October 25 Share October 25 I agree, even if the call had been made, the Vikes still had to go about 80 yards to score in less than 2 minutes without any timeouts and get a 2 point conversion. Minnesota should be focusing on their offense only getting 2 field goals in the second half and how their secondary allowed Stafford & the Rams to carve them up. 1 Link to comment
twoods October 25 Share October 25 27 minutes ago, Calvada said: I agree, even if the call had been made, the Vikes still had to go about 80 yards to score in less than 2 minutes without any timeouts and get a 2 point conversion. Minnesota should be focusing on their offense only getting 2 field goals in the second half and how their secondary allowed Stafford & the Rams to carve them up. I do appreciate that the Vikings didn’t gripe about that call like others would have. Darnold said that they shouldn’t have been in that position in the first place, and the coach stated one play doesn’t lose games. It was nice to see. 2 Link to comment
roamyn October 25 Share October 25 3 minutes ago, twoods said: he Vikings didn’t gripe about that call like others would have *cough*Chiefs*cough* 1 3 Link to comment
morriss October 25 Share October 25 I have a question for all the football buffs on this forum. Does the money making machine (aka National Football League) : 1) Employ the absolute worst referees in the history of sports or 2) Referees are just following instructions to enable the league to manipulate the game towards desired results. Desired Results=$$$$ for themselves or for their partners- the sportsbooks. Just something to think about.🤔 Link to comment
roamyn October 25 Share October 25 3 minutes ago, morriss said: ) Employ the absolute worst referees in the history of sports or They're only part-time and IMO not well paid or trained. Umps are both full time and have certification courses. But, I do think certain teams get the benefit of the doubt (Patriots when Bellicheck was there, Chiefs w/Andy Reid). 1 Link to comment
bluegirl147 October 25 Share October 25 5 minutes ago, morriss said: I have a question for all the football buffs on this forum. Does the money making machine (aka National Football League) : 1) Employ the absolute worst referees in the history of sports or 2) Referees are just following instructions to enable the league to manipulate the game towards desired results. Desired Results=$$$$ for themselves or for their partners- the sportsbooks. Just something to think about.🤔 It does seem like there are a lot more blatantly bad calls since the online betting sites have been up. And some of them are definitely affecting the outcome of games. It's gotten so bad we now have the refs being employed by the networks to comment on calls during the games are saying WTF was that. 26 minutes ago, roamyn said: But, I do think certain teams get the benefit of the doubt (Patriots when Bellicheck was there, Chiefs w/Andy Reid). 100% agree and it really makes watching their games a chore. Link to comment
Carey October 25 Share October 25 I'm not (so) sure I should care. For instance, if teams like Kansas City (and New England previous) are benefiting at a level that hinders the other 31, I'm not sure why The Powers That Be within the franchises puts a stop to it. Not so much teams that totally suck, but contenders. Especially given the fact that the head of those contenders has the head or non-player face of the NFL as one of their employees. As mentioned, it's a 60-minute game. Outside of the instances where horrible and one-sided officiating takes place, maybe try to rout someone Link to comment
Bastet October 26 Share October 26 I was at my parents' house last night, and they don't have Prime, so we couldn't watch the game. Oh, well, I thought, the Rams are going to get annihilated anyway, this is just sparing me the aggravation. I didn't even bother checking the score until just now. Damn, I wish I'd seen that. Link to comment
merylinkid October 26 Share October 26 First only one position is the referee. The others are things like "line judge" and "back judge." The referee is just the head of the whole officiating crew. Second, officials come up through the ranks, you start coaching youth, then high school, then college, THEN, if you are good enough, you get a tryout at the NFL. So to say they aren't well-trained is a disservice to the literal decades of time they have put in to becoming football officials. Third, no one talks about all the calls they got right in a game. How many calls were there in this one game? Football moves fast, officials are human and can't see everything going on at once (one of the reason there are so many officials, so that someone might be in a position to spot something). Even in this game where an official was "right there." Yeah BEHIND Sam Darnold so couldn't see the Rams player actually grabbed the face mask, not any other part of the helmet. And it is only grabbing the face mask that is the penalty. Which is going to happen unless you assign two people to watch every single player every single second of a game, one to watch the front and one to watch the back. Even then things will be missed (what really goes on at the bottom of a pile out of sight?). I think we are more hyper vigilant about "bad" calls because we have the benefit of so many camera angles that the officials on the field simply do not have. Sure we could review every single play to make sure nothing was missed and allow everything to be challengable -- if you want games to be 7 hours long. It's a trade off, good enough when getting to perfect is impossible. 4 2 Link to comment
Carey October 26 Share October 26 I guess I'll never forget Aaron Rodgers turning his head against Detroit nearly a decade ago, but I can't recall this second whether the defender touched the face mask or not. I do not believe he grabbed it to where it was a definite foul. Decent points on the officiating. Nobody compliments the officials, at least most people don't. My issue is that games are close a ton, and I suppose the league and company want that. Fans in a way really want that as opposed to turning off the TV over a blowout. With a close game comes a questionable call that can make the difference between winning & lose. With that fact comes my issue on people often complaining about the refs costing someone a game, but not the actual players that also made mistakes in the same game. Several to be honest. Maybe play better in your contest, and a bad call will not factor in the final outcome 3 Link to comment
Marley October 26 Share October 26 I hate the whole the season is scripted bs. Every team gets bad calls. Nobody is perfect. 3 1 Link to comment
roamyn October 26 Share October 26 29 minutes ago, Marley said: I hate the whole the season is scripted bs. Every team gets bad calls. Nobody is perfect. You should watch Tom Grossi's 'Scriptwriter' series on YouTube. The references, the villainous characters, the comedy, Wildflower aka WFT fan)... He's really funny and creative using only his house, the 'screaming' street, a robe and a notebook for props. Oh and 'flag'. To understand the Stroud arc, you have to watch last season and the 'Strouds' (Texans) beef with the moon. LOL 1 Link to comment
roamyn October 26 Share October 26 Long time radio announcer for the Cleveland Browns, Jim Donovan, lost his battle to leukemia. He was a beacon of light in many years of mediocre to bad - and some good - seasons of football. I was expecting this when he has to retire last month aft his cancer came back, but still.... FUCK CANCER 6 Link to comment
24k Kate October 26 Share October 26 1 hour ago, roamyn said: To understand the Stroud arc, you have to watch last season and the 'Strouds' (Texans) beef with the moon. LOL No Moon is legit my ringtone. 1 Link to comment
baldryanr October 26 Share October 26 3 hours ago, Marley said: I hate the whole the season is scripted bs. Every team gets bad calls. Nobody is perfect. I mean sure, that would be the calm, rational approach. But come on, fans love to get outraged about everything. Call goes against your team? The game is rigged and we're victims. Call goes for your team? Everyone thinks we're getting favorable treatment, so it's us against the world. 3 Link to comment
Notabug October 27 Share October 27 7 hours ago, roamyn said: Long time radio announcer for the Cleveland Browns, Jim Donovan, lost his battle to leukemia. He was a beacon of light in many years of mediocre to bad - and some good - seasons of football. I was expecting this when he has to retire last month aft his cancer came back, but still.... FUCK CANCER For way too many years, Jim was the ONLY reason to follow the Browns. Terrific play by play and an incredible sense of humor to help take the sting out of the team's ongoing mediocrity. 2 Link to comment
merylinkid October 27 Share October 27 On 10/26/2024 at 10:12 AM, Carey said: My issue is that games are close a ton, and I suppose the league and company want that. They actually do want close games. The whole "on any given Sunday thing." Because when the AAFC started with the Cleveland Browns (yes them) the Browns were so dominate no one bothered to come to the games. Who wants to pay to go see a game when you already know who will be the winner? It's why the NFL, after sucking in the Browns*, realized fairly equally matched teams make for better ticket sales (higher tv revenue). One of the reason** Bert Bell proposed the whole worst team gets first shot at better players thing. * - Fun fact, once the Browns joined the NFL, they lost the championship game twice -- to the Detroit Lions. Yes them. *** Other reasons was Bert Bell also owned the Eagles and his team sucked, he hoped to personally benefit from having first shot at good players. Now we have a Commissioner who is employed by the teams, but not a member of any one team, to avoid that conflict of interest. (Sorry folks, you got me on history of football streak this weekend. Oh and despite my defense of officiating - #DezCaughtIt). 1 Link to comment
mojoween October 27 Share October 27 The announcers for Jets/Patriots could at least *pretend* to be happy to be in Foxboro. Link to comment
Carey October 27 Share October 27 Meh; I can't blame them. For me, it'll be like pretending to be upset over the outcome of several of these day games. Still have to be a little better than that! Link to comment
baldryanr October 27 Share October 27 Last season after instantly losing Aaron Rodgers the Jets were 4-4 after 8 games. This season with him they're 2-6. Congrats, Jets fans! 3 Link to comment
Fukui San October 27 Share October 27 Bad week to be a sports star name Aaron in New York. 8 Link to comment
Carey October 27 Share October 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, baldryanr said: Last season after instantly losing Aaron Rodgers the Jets were 4-4 after 8 games. This season with him they're 2-6. Congrats, Jets fans! New York will have to run the table (basically) if someone cares that Brett will have had a better record as a Jet with less to work with and a less offense-friendly era Edited October 27 by Carey Will, not would Link to comment
baldryanr October 27 Share October 27 Looks like Chicago forgot about making sure you keep all of the other team's players in front of you when it's Hail Mary time. 2 Link to comment
twoods October 27 Share October 27 (edited) That was just a fluke tip and he was in the right place at the right time. Gutting loss for the Bears but congrats to Washington. Edited October 27 by twoods 3 Link to comment
Crashcourse October 28 Share October 28 When Jayden Daniels launched that Hail Mary pass and Noah Brown caught it, I jumped off the couch to celebrate, danced--and almost twisted my ankle.😅 3 2 Link to comment
Carey October 28 Share October 28 2 minutes ago, Crashcourse said: When Jayden Daniels launched that Hail Mary pass and Noah Brown caught it, I jumped off the couch to celebrate, danced--and almost twisted my ankle.😅 I wasn't sure the best emoji to give you here, so I felt like it was best to comment. That final segment was freaking awesome! Hope you are well, but these outcomes are rare, so it's nice to see them play out. Especially since Daniels wasn't 100% 1 Link to comment
Crashcourse October 28 Share October 28 1 minute ago, Carey said: I wasn't sure the best emoji to give you here, so I felt like it was best to comment. That final segment was freaking awesome! Hope you are well, but these outcomes are rare, so it's nice to see them play out. Especially since Daniels wasn't 100% Thanks, the ankle's fine. 😅 1 1 Link to comment
roamyn October 28 Share October 28 (edited) 3 hours ago, roamyn said: That was for you, Jimmy. Kevin Stefanski & Andrew Berry delivered the game ball to Cheryl & Meghan Donovan aft the game. Kevin mentioned it to the team during the post game locker speech and they all agreed. Classy act. Edited October 28 by roamyn 1 1 3 Link to comment
Magog October 28 Share October 28 The Cowboys are now losing 20-10 to the 49ers in the 3rd Quarter. HA HA HA!!!! I hope that Jerry Jones is squirming right now. 2 Link to comment
Carey October 28 Share October 28 1 minute ago, Magog said: The Cowboys are now losing 20-10 to the 49ers in the 3rd Quarter. HA HA HA!!!! I hope that Jerry Jones is squirming right now. And from there, the architect for the D-Wade statue can make a perfect replica to honor the Cowboys "legend". Yeah, a Jerry Jones statue that looks like Colonel Sanders. Not sure how they'd build a statue where some old guy is looking through a window suite, starting down dejected and all 5 Link to comment
Salacious Kitty October 28 Share October 28 (edited) Cut to actual shot of Jerruh sitting alone and looking constipated in his box. 👍 Edited October 28 by Salacious Kitty 4 1 Link to comment
merylinkid October 28 Share October 28 Just saw a stat that Dak Prescott is the first Cowboys QB since 1992 to have 2 o more interceptions 3 years in row since 1992. that would be Troy Aikman. I thought, not Quincy Carter, not Tony Romo. Then I had to go look how many starting QBs there were since 1992. They are: Troy Aikman Quincy Carter Chad Henson (wow forgot him) Vinny Testaverde for a year (really forgot him) Drew Bledsoe (who was around longer than I thought he was. He was available because he lost his starting job after he got hurt and lost his job to a 6th Round Pick from Michigan, didn't care enough to look up what happened to that guy, then fDrew was floated through a couple of teams before landing in Dallas. I once called him statuesque and it wasn't a compliment) Tony Romo Dak Prescott That's it. not bad for over 30 years. Too bad its resulted in no Super Bowls since 1996. Link to comment
Fukui San October 28 Share October 28 There's an NFL programming executive who, this past offseason, pushed hard to get the Jets as many prime time games as possible this season. Jets play Houston in the Thursday Night game this week. Link to comment
Carey October 28 Share October 28 I'm sorry to tell you, but the Dallas Cowboys are a waste of space in terms of a professional sports franchise within the National Football League. 3 Link to comment
Bastet October 28 Share October 28 The 49ers tried very hard to give the game away in the 4th quarter, but pulled it out in the end. If I'm going to root for a team I hate, because they're playing the Cowboys, the least they can do is not fuck it up. So, thank you, San Francisco. 4 Link to comment
Carey October 28 Share October 28 In no way, shape, or form was I rooting for Dallas here. Not a big Niners fan either TBH, but it sure felt like both teams were saying no thank you to winning. I'll be honest, as it feels like San Francisco is "back" or whatever, I think I'll definitely throw up if they get to the end before losing in the Super Bowl (to Kansas City). As for the Cowboys, the only way they're super bowl bound is if people plopped in VHS tape of Jimmy Johnson era stuff OR if the Chiefs changed their name to the Cowboys. That's it. Link to comment
Magog October 28 Share October 28 Another week. Another dose of the Cowboys taking that Walk Of Shame after a loss. 🤣 🤣🤣 This one is from last night after that 30-24 loss to the 49ers. Watch Dallas Cowboys players reactions after another loss to the 49ers What a bunch of losers. It'll never ever get old seeing the Cowboys taking a Walk Of Shame after a loss. 2 Link to comment
mojoween October 28 Share October 28 In the spirit of Halloween, I have resigned myself to the fact that TJ Watt is going to be snacking on Daniel Jones’s femur by the end of the evening. 1 1 Link to comment
mojoween October 29 Share October 29 I swear to cod I would almost rather they get blown out rather than give me smidgens of hope that they continually pull away like Lucy’s football. 2 Link to comment
shoregirl October 30 Share October 30 11 minutes ago, Carey said: If that had been TJ Watt, that fan might not have made it to November! Realized I posted in the wrong thread Link to comment
Carey October 30 Share October 30 2 hours ago, shoregirl said: Realized I posted in the wrong thread LOL...It happens. At least it can happen. At least it was still in the sports section of the website! IIRC, a couple years ago around the time was either a live MLB game or news related to football, I was talking Survivor, and somehow my post from the CBS show ended up in the baseball or football thread Link to comment
Carey Thursday at 11:01 PM Share Thursday at 11:01 PM Joe Burrow Might Have A Career In Botched Home Invasions Post NFL On a related note (or not) NO WAY The Article Author Was Born Before LIVE AID 1 Link to comment
Fukui San Friday at 01:18 AM Share Friday at 01:18 AM In case you missed it, this just happened in the Thursday Night game. 1 1 2 Link to comment
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