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dtissagirl
dtissagirl

What bugs me is the implication that if you are not patient, you're watching it wrong. Naw, son. You don't get to tell me how I watch TV. I'm an actual pro at doing it.

WindofChange
WindofChange

Oh wow, Emily. I'm impressed because this is really brave and I'm really proud that she said this in such an eloquent way.

dtissagirl
dtissagirl

Ha. Reading those stage directions, and realizing how EBR went the opposite way [curious and skeptic rather than faint by hot guy] makes me understand 100% how fucking lost they were at that time, and

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SmallScreenDiva

A little video of Colton and Emily dancing to Shake It Off

 

 

Oh, I think that's the video they posted last year, then very quickly pulled down. They're too funny and adorable. They really just seem to enjoy each other. I love that they have actual costume changes. 

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tv echo

tv echo

SA at WonderCon this past weekend (in the first video, he talks about how his reaction when people lie to him is to "flip his lid" and "go a little crazy" - lol)...

 

Stephen Amell on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 ¦ Wondercon 2016
Published on Mar 28, 2016, by Trailers

 

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows: Stephen Amell WonderCon Exclusive Interview
Published on Mar 28, 2016, by ScreenSlam

 

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows: WonderCon Cast Arrival
Published on Mar 26, 2016, by ScreenSlam

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tv echo

tv echo

MG at WonderCon this past weekend (minor spoilers)...

 

Marc Guggenheim interview | LEGENDS OF TOMORROW at WonderCon 2016
Published on Mar 28, 2016, by TheFandom dotnet

 

Marc Guggenheim talks Legends of Tomorrow at Wondercon 2016!
Published on Mar 28, 2016, by Richard Oh

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looptab

looptab

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Hahah, worst timing ever XD

 

BTW, did it really take them 800 years to put together a 10 sec video? LOL 

Glad they did it, though. :)

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Chaser

Chaser

I figure they either had something else planned but decided to do this quick one instead because fandom is kind of ugly at the moment or they had nothing planned and decided to do this cause fandom is kind of ugly at the moment.

Cute vid tho. Love that they included DR.

For some reason I thought they weren't filming today.

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AyChihuahua

AyChihuahua

That poster was obviously just rude, but that said, I'm not sure what segment of the show's fans Guggie thought he was pleasing with the manufactured melodramatic angst. I can't think of one single reviewer (since we're not supposed to talk about fandom sections) that was like "Ooh, baby mama drama causing a split...gimme!"

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Belinea

Belinea

Regardless of whether or not you are a hardcore shipper or not, does anyone promote the show as much as these fans do? So, even if they (imo) didn't really care about making the video, it will at least give the fans who are upset now something positive to talk about.

Love that DR is in it though...

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Chaser

Chaser

That poster was obviously just rude, but that said, I'm not sure what segment of the show's fans Guggie thought he was pleasing with the manufactured melodramatic angst. I can't think of one single reviewer (since we're not supposed to talk about fandom sections) that was like "Ooh, baby mama drama causing a split...gimme!"

This plus the death. Everyone is picking sides and then yelling at each other. Fandom is kind of ugh at the moment.

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Belinea

Belinea

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I'm not sure what segment of the show's fans Guggie thought he was pleasing with the manufactured melodramatic angst."

Hey, don't be mean to him. He uses all his time to come up with epic game changers. Sure people might hate it but do you know how much time it would take to come up with new word for press interviews. Therefore he continues with epic awesomeness that people dislike as long as he gets to keep his favorite words. ;-)

In all honesty, I think he believes it is a good storyline, God knows why.

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yikes :p 

 

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I'm so embarrassed by that comment, not SA's but the original poster. Complaining about the show on a thank you video to Olicity fans is the lowest of the low.

 

This fandom is exhausting.

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lemotomato

lemotomato

This plus the death. Everyone is picking sides and then yelling at each other. Fandom is kind of ugh at the moment.

It's also that time of the year when a million polls are happening. Polls make people insane.

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tangerine95

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I don't think he was trying to please anyone tbh. Just seems to me like a case of EPs thinking they need angst and breaking up then reuniting their popular couple in order to keep things interesting and create some buzz. Most shows seem to think they need to do that with their main couples. I kinda think they also wanted to get the kid thing they set up over with plus get their olicity break up so we got that mess.

Hopefully they learn olicity can be interesting to the audience when happy together and dealing with external issues instead of creating contrived drama for them.I do think this is the last break up we'll get and they'll keep them together in the future but we'll see, who knows.

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NumberCruncher

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I have to give Stephen props for at least pointing out how ridiculous people are being about all this. It reminds me of when he quite rightly put that one guy in his place for calling Felicity a bitch for even daring give Oliver the ring back. It's basically akin to him telling people to "Get a grip...it's just a show."

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AyChihuahua

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I have to give Stephen props for at least pointing out how ridiculous people are being about all this. It reminds me of when he quite rightly put that one guy in his place for calling Felicity a bitch for even daring give Oliver the ring back. It's basically akin to him telling people to "Get a grip...it's just a show."

Yeah, Succinctly Salty Steve is my favorite Steve. Way better than Misogynistic Steve and Not all Texans Steve.

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looptab

looptab

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He made another video where he tells people to STFU. No, not really, j/k hahah, but he asks that people keep it polite on the page and that he does not tolerate attacks to his co-workers, among other things.

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looptab

looptab

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Thinking about Stephen's last video - do you think he finally addressed the state of some posts because it was that much uglier than any other time fandom was 'unpleasant', or because it was the latest of a long series of events and he finally decided to try and rein it in?

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doesntworkonwood

doesntworkonwood

Thinking about Stephen's last video - do you think he finally addressed the state of some posts because it was that much uglier than any other time fandom was 'unpleasant', or because it was the latest of a long series of events and he finally decided to try and rein it in?

I think it was just the porn

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GirlvsTV

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I think it was just the porn

I'm still trying to catch up on all this, there was porn? What? Why? Was it spam?

ETA, nevermind I see your answer, lol

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looptab

looptab

Sorry that was a joke, during the video he say that he doesn't block anyone except... then he says he doesn't know how to get rid of the porn or why it ends up on his timeline.

Oh, okay, haha. I forgot he said that and for a moment I thought there was a serious issue instead of the usual spam accounts XD

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bijoux

bijoux

https://www.facebook.com/stephenamell/videos/1027691593982774/

 

 

Thank you very much to everyone who contributed to the Ship Of The Year Award. My apologies that it took so long to put together a video. And ah... sorry that our characters broke up. :/
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on Monday, March 28, 2016

 

Now, I don't want to spoil anyone too much, but praise be, Oliver seems to have a normal jacket on.

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EmilyBettFan

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Thinking about Stephen's last video - do you think he finally addressed the state of some posts because it was that much uglier than any other time fandom was 'unpleasant', or because it was the latest of a long series of events and he finally decided to try and rein it in?

I've been a fan of his page for a while and this has been the most I've seen hate against one of his co-stars. Not saying this because I'm not a fan of KC but, there has never been this much hate on someone else's page that I've seen. It seems like mostly men who are being dicks against Emily also. Like she dictates the way the show goes. Most of the people doing the hating have clearly stated after they were pressed by other fans that they are only pissed because he's not with Laurel.

Which is hilarious because they are screaming "stop the romance" when that's all they want to.

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kismet

kismet

If that was all the major Olicity ship of the year thank you video, that was really lame. I know tensions may be high in the fandom, but it's been months since that award the least they could do is put together a decent thank you message. That seemed excessively short and poor quality.

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way2interested

way2interested

I have a feeling that they might have planned something else, but wanted to put out at least something given the reactions with 416. No confirmation or anything, but the video definitely seemed last minute and nothing really like a planned video that SA was talking about.

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tv echo

tv echo

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IIRC, there was some quote by someone (maybe one of the EPs?) some time ago about how they thought hate was better than apathy - in other words, as long as the show is creating social media buzz, it's all good (in their eyes).  Passion was preferable to apathy.

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tv echo

tv echo

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Correction: it was said by SA during a 2014 Nerd HQ panel (see last 3 minutes of video)...

 

-- In response to fan asking about his reaction to Oliver's "questionable choices", SA responded that he went to the producers and asked if Oliver could not bed every single female he's not related to on the show.  SA then said: "I'm all for making questionable choices because, in truth, I don't care if people love Oliver Queen or hate him. I just don't want them to be indifferent. And as long as they're not indifferent, I'm fine with whatever's happening... The opposite of love is not hate, Zach. It’s apathy." 

 

A Conversation with Stephen Amell live from #NerdHQ 2014
Streamed live on Jul 27, 2014, by The Nerd Machine

 

BTW, it's not the first time that SA has used that quote.  Back in 2012, he used it in two different interviews (Collider, TV Guide)...

Oliver has had a lot of turmoil in his life and it seems like he’s only getting peace through the Arrow. Are there going to be any other outlets where he makes peace?
AMELL: Not yet.  Our director on the pilot said when he was talking about one of the scenes, it’s not his quote but it’s a good one, that the opposite of love is not hate, it’s apathy.  All he’s got right now is hate and rage and we haven’t even gotten into the mythology of what happened on the island. He didn’t go from pre-island Oliver Queen to Arrow. He went from pre-island Oliver Queen to nothing, and then he had to be built back up.

http://collider.com/comic-con-stephen-amell-and-katie-cassidy-talk-arrow-playing-a-superhero-and-the-possibility-of-black-canary/

And of course, you'll have Black Canary at some point. How will the relationship between Laurel (Katie Cassidy) and Oliver develop?
Amell: As the director of our pilot always said, the opposite of love is not hate, it's apathy. Laurel hates Oliver. She's not indifferent to him. He loves her. He's just afraid of what could happen to her if people that were out to get Arrow found out about his feelings toward her. I'd be amazed if there weren't a few more chapters in the Oliver-Laurel love book.

http://www.tvguide.com/news/arrow-stephen-amell-1054453/

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dtissagirl

dtissagirl

I agree with him in theory -- the worst thing that can happen to a story arc is nobody caring either way -- see the flashbacks this season, and the fact that they didn't even do their usual flashback-heavy episode, because NOBODY CARES.

 

But when a story arc gets reviled based heavily on misogyny and internalized sexism, that is not at all a reaction that's interesting for the creatives.

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dtissagirl

dtissagirl

I don't think they're gonna adjust the story, no, mostly because there's not that much time to do it -- they're filming 422 and prepping 423. But since they're aware of the sexist read on the break up -- Guggenheim admitted on Twitter to having read that ~open letter~  [which was one of the most blatant cases of internalized sexism I've ever read in my life] -- I have hope they realize that's a specifically BAD audience reaction, that shouldn't affect change.

 

I also think creatives take a much more simplistic approach to dealing with audience reaction than fandom does. Ultimately, O/F breaking up got a negative reaction, and that tells the network and the showrunners that the audience prefers the couple together.

 

Which they are planning on executing anyway, so will you look at that -- a negative reaction to O/F breaking up agrees with their masterplan.

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