Love (2016) - General Discussion

[betha]

This was a great episode. I thought the Sarah character and storyline was interesting, bittersweet and sad. It seemed realistic that there were still some feelings. It made me wonder more about how and why they broke up a month after getting engaged.

[Jessa]

On 3/17/2018 at 7:31 AM, Blakeston said:

 

Were we supposed to think that Gus contracted Mickey's illness within a few hours? That seems unlikely. Germ-and-illness-obsessed Gus would know that getting sick doesn't usually work that way.

When she called, she said “I’m still at your place.” If they had spent the night together there, she could have spread it to him then. 

[Oscirus]

I was quite disappointed in this season as a whole. 

We have Mickey hounding Gus about honesty, and all I could thinks was: really? Are you the person to be giving Gus lessons on honesty in a relationship? 

Apparently Gus is going to keep falling into career opportunities until one sticks.

I guess I'm supposed to be happy for Birdie being in a stable relationship but, no. Sleeping with your boyfriends  friend behind his back is just all kinds of screwed up. If anything it makes me dislike her more. Yea Randy was a dirtbag, but he definitely didn't deserve to have that happen to him.

I will give them credit for the ending though. That's exactly the stupid impulsive shit that those two would do.

 

Overall this season felt rushed and like it was cancelled halfway through so storylines got ended prematurely.

[brokenwing29]

I was kind of surprised Bertie didn't show more compassion for Randy. I mean, he is trying to stop mooching off her and was trying to keep his homelessness a secret. I agree she deserves better but I wouldn't have expected Mickey to show more sympathy for Greg in the next scene than Bertie showed Randy. As for Mickey, I was impressed that she remained so calm through Greg's asking her that favor and through the radio show where Greg outed their one time affair...especially with no cigarettes. I have never smoked myself, but I know people who are really hooked on it come to need it really badly, especially under stress. Yeah, she caved in the end but she showed a level of maturity in this episode she didn't have in the first season.

I guess this was my imagination since no one else brought it up, but was that, um, innuendo from Arya when Gus asked her to be in his movie? "I will only do you one favor in this lifetime and you want to waste it on this?" They have such a nice vibe going with their current friendship...during season one his kindness to Arya was one of his few redeeming qualities...just please let no grossness enter the picture.

[7-Zark-7]

I definitely wanted to see a final scene with Gus and Arya. His avuncular connection with her was the best relationship in the show.

Bertie subtly yet persistently trying to dissuade Mickey from marrying Gus cracked me up. I don’t see Mickey happily married to anyone... ever.

[Readalot]

On 4/13/2018 at 9:02 PM, brokenwing29 said:

I was kind of surprised Bertie didn't show more compassion for Randy. I mean, he is trying to stop mooching off her and was trying to keep his homelessness a secret. I agree she deserves better but I wouldn't have expected Mickey to show more sympathy for Greg in the next scene than Bertie showed Randy. As for Mickey, I was impressed that she remained so calm through Greg's asking her that favor and through the radio show where Greg outed their one time affair...especially with no cigarettes. I have never smoked myself, but I know people who are really hooked on it come to need it really badly, especially under stress. Yeah, she caved in the end but she showed a level of maturity in this episode she didn't have in the first season.

I guess this was my imagination since no one else brought it up, but was that, um, innuendo from Arya when Gus asked her to be in his movie? "I will only do you one favor in this lifetime and you want to waste it on this?" They have such a nice vibe going with their current friendship...during season one his kindness to Arya was one of his few redeeming qualities...just please let no grossness enter the picture.

Honestly I didn’t think that way at all, I think it was a professional question. 

[possibilities]

I'm the sort of person who, if I want you to help me, will say so. And if I say to leave me alone, I mean it. And i'm an adult, not some baby who needs you to cancel your plans and rush home just because I have the flu. It's not like she had a heart attack or a major car accident or something that was truly an emergency. Let him finish his tour before you tell him you're sick.

[possibilities]

Call her a fucking uber.

[possibilities]

I thought Mickey was able to be sympathetic to Greg because she understands what it is to self-sabotage and be a general disaster of a person, plus-- and probably even more to the point-- she was feeling empowered and he was no longer in her life in ways that were causing her trouble. By contrast, Bertie was unhappy in her relationship with Randy, and looking for a way out, and didn't have the guts to end it, so she was feeling stressed and trapped and it made it harder for her to soften toward him and care about what he was going through.

As soon as Bertie finally breaks up with Randy, she starts to have compassion for him again.

[possibilities]

I'm so relieved they finally addressed Gus's BS, and gave Mickey her due.

[possibilities]

I said this in a previous thread, but I say it even moreso now:

I'm so relieved they finally addressed Gus's BS, and gave Mickey her due.

 

I didn't take it as being about him keeping just one, or even more than one, thing private. I took it as being about him trying to play the role of "healthy" to Mickey's "messed up" and lording it over her to preserve his ego and make her feel lesser. All along I've felt like this show was promoting a narrative where Gus was trying to be a hero and paint Mickey as a fuck up, when the truth is, they're both fuck ups. Any relationship has to be between equals and he was trying to be superior. I loved that she finally saw through it, and then he did, and that's what made it possible for them to stay together.

[brokenwing29]

If the show wasn't based on Paul Rust's relationship with his real wife, I would have never bet on it ending with the two still together. I did appreciate seeing a romance with two deeply flawed characters. Mickey, in particular, was like no romantic heroine I'd ever seen, and Gus is a much more realistic version of a guy you are likely to meet and start dating than most you will see in the movies. But since the series was set on being "real" all the way through, it probably would have ended with a separation (except for the aforementioned fact that it is based on a real relationship). What kept me watching was how the characters evolved and handled the situations they were put in. I didn't "ship" Mickey and Gus...until the very end...when I was actually kind of happy they married after all. I don't know how long they would stay married but I'm pretty sure they would never have the standard fairy tale happily ever after.

I, too, was disappointed in how things ended with Arya. The one constant adult in her life gone and with no indication of how any of her problems might be solved, if at all. But that's life. Sometimes there are sad or unjust endings, things don't always turn out the way they should. For a show that tried to steer clear of the BS this genre usually throws at us, I guess it fits.

I'm glad Bertie didn't stay with Randy just because she is a kind person and didn't want to hurt his feelings. I do think she should have ended that relationship before starting another, but I think it was in character that she didn't know how to have that conversation with him. I loved Bertie's retro 60s look at the wedding, by the way. Maybe she dressed that way for the whole series and I just now noticed it. It was kind of annoying how Randy made such a "poor me" speech before the first wedding, but again, it was in character for him to do so. It was probably even a sign of maturity on his part that he held himself back from making an even bigger scene. 

I will miss all these characters. It wasn't the best show in the world (though I put off watching the final couple of episodes because I didn't want it to end), but most of the characters felt real and will probably be the kind I will wonder whatever happened to before remembering that they are fictional. 

[ElectricBoogaloo]

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[Ki-in]

On 3/13/2018 at 6:53 PM, Mindthinkr said:

 

Re: Gus to Chris...(paraphrasing) At the kitchen table playing scrabble. One minute she’s playing and the next she’s biting a bat’s head off. Who did that IRL? Ozzy or Alice Cooper? 

 

Ozzy  

He also bit the head off a dove at a meeting with record executives, he had a lot of problems in the '80's

 

Edited July 17, 2018 by Ki-in

[Ki-in]

I thought Mickey would have been a little more sympathetic to someone having an alcohol fueled embarrassing situation.

[Mindthinkr]

10 minutes ago, Ki-in said:

I thought Mickey would have been a little more sympathetic to someone having an alcohol fueled embarrassing situation.

Agreed.