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She also just told her, "You have to actually win something if you want to win this game, Julia". I think it was a pep talk, but it was just hilariously condescending.

 

This, it's SO funny to me, especially because Julia is like BITCH I'm not the one walking out the door, and I think she's secretly happy to be free of Liz.

 

The more I hear Meg talk the more I hate her ass for taking the spot of someone who really wanted to be there and knew what the point of the show was. 

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Oh and Vanessa was using her dead husband as strategy again. So gross. I'm so annoyed by her victim act. People always back down from confronting her because she cries and whines and cries some more. And makes sure to get in about 100 "I'm a good person" quotes.

I know her husband was significantly older. He's dead now? Didn't she divorce him?

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Hahahahahaha!! Austin sitting on the bed with Liz, trying to get her to turn over and talk to him.  He hasn't taken the POV necklace off yet when he comes to "comfort" her and can't help looking at himself in the mirror while she continues to ignore him!!!  This is all fantastic! 

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Hahahahahaha!! Austin sitting on the bed with Liz, trying to get her to turn over and talk to him.  He hasn't taken the POV necklace off yet when he comes to "comfort" her and can't help looking at himself in the mirror while she continues to ignore him!!!  This is all fantastic! 

 

I feel bad for the folks who cancelled feeds when Meg/James left.

He also grasped onto the veto necklace, muscles flexing, and mouthed something like "YESSS". While sitting on the bed as Liz's face is buried in the pillow. LOL

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Apparently Jessie hosted the comp. I'm excited. UO but I love me some Jessie. He brings the laughs.

  

Well, we will just have to agree to disagree on that one. We agree on so much more, though, this isn't a deal breaker.

Austin is begging for a hug (and not getting it) while Vanessa tries to spin the truth wildly and play the victim to Steve. Same ol', same ol'.

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He was diagnosed right around the time they broke up, but I do think they stayed amicable during the whole thing.

He lived with her for a bit while he was sick. It sounds like they remained close friends, and it was a major loss for her.

They just called Liz to the DR. I love it!!

ETA: apparently Austin screamed that he was Judas at the end of the veto, and he's hoping it airs. He told Steve that it was okay if Steve wants to call him Judas. I cannot even with this.

Also, I think John knows that Julia hates him, and I think he also knows that he's second-best goat behind Julia. Julia gone makes it more likely Vanessa takes him to F2, and he's already pretty sure Steve takes him. He's been working on Austin, so that could be a possibility if both Julia and Liz leave. Basically, leaving Julia in the game reduces his chances of someone picking him as their F2, and Austin and Liz are going to stay targets for Steve/ Vanessa, while at least Steve and probably Vanessa will be bigger targets for Austin/ Liz. Booting Julia isn't the worst move for him.

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Steve just proposed playing Potball later. I'M CACKLING

 

Yep, I think the new rules of the game might now involve pots being swung at balls, rather than the initial rules!!! 

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I'm still not getting how keeping Liz is good for John's game, what good is playing for F2 going to do, IF, you never make it to final 2 because you kept the comp beast  AND her boyfriend over the newly isolated comp goat? It's stupid to have any strong duos in the game going into F5, dumb as shit in fact, and with Liz gone there a lots of allied duos, but none as tight and bonded as Liztin.

 

And it's not like he can't go after Julia the very next week!

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If JMac wants to vote Julia out, he can just do so, right? Austin will be voting Julia out, and they just need two votes to take her out, no?

I think it would be a smart move for him. He won't do it, though.

Not that he necessarily needs to follow through, but he did promise Steve that he'd vote however Steve wants this week.

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Vanessa is not an idiot, she'll vote out Liz and tell Julia all about how they can go after Austin/JMac/Steve. , while telling Steve/JMac how they can go after Austin/Julia.

 

 

Julia isn't a strategic thinker

 

Eh I think she is, I think she has really good observations and instincts, but hasn't felt empowered to do what she needs for her game, because of g-d Liz and her showmance.

 

Austin trying to make piece with Julia is hilarious, her bitch face makes my life, if looks could kill she would burn him with fire. I don't think she's happy with Van either, but Austin has no audience here.....ever. 

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What about Vanessa? Who would she vote for?

Julia and Liz? She'd vote out Liz if she had her druthers. if she thinks John is voting out Julia, though, I guess she'd vote out Julia, too.

 

The only reason John would vote out Julia now is that he thinks:

 

A. Vanessa wants Julia here, so he might as well fuck over Vanessa as he is going to have to win comps to stick around no matter what

B. He can tell Austin and Liz that Vanessa is against them and he will help them save Liz, so next week, make Vanessa the target and not him.

 

He doesn't have a ton of plays left outside of winning HoH or Veto every week, so I think very few things for him are bad moves. 

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He doesn't have a ton of plays left outside of winning HoH or Veto every week, so I think very few things for him are bad moves.

 

It's precisely because he has to win HoH/Veto that he should be wanting to eliminate the fiercest comp threats that he's NOT allied to, aka in order Liz, Austin, Julia. Also I actually think he's in really good position the only one who would put him up FOR SURE is Julia, at any time he could pull together Steve/Austin to vote out Van. 

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Damn, of course Austin won veto. I really wanted him to go this week. Did anyone see Meg and James' exit interviews with Jeff? They think Austin's playing the best game, and despite my feeling that Liz doesnt really like him like that, I don't see Liz voting against him unless he's in the final 2 with Julia; that's three votes right there! Damn, the big buffoon could actually win this thing.. ugh!

 

Honestly the most interesting F2 would probably be Vanessa vs. Austin. That's really the only combo where it's not obvious who would win. Or maybe John vs. Vanessa or Austin if John is able to suddenly start winning comps.

 

Eh I think she is, I think she has really good observations and instincts, but hasn't felt empowered to do what she needs for her game, because of g-d Liz and her showmance.

 

I think Julia's main problem is the same as Steve and John's, she's a very passive player. She lets Liz/Austin and/or Vanessa control all her moves/thoughts. And on top of that, like John, she is a pretty terrible competitor. And she certainly has had some times when she had good instincts, but she has had some really stupid ideas as well. 

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I think getting out Liz is his only move, honestly. Getting out Julia doesn't ensure his safety. If Liz wins HOH, she puts up Steve and Johnny Mac for sure. If Austin wins, he does the same. And even if he isn't put up initially, there are too many chances for him to go up as a pawn.  So saving Liz is worse for his game; get out the power duo now and there's more of a chance Julia will be put up next week.

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Apparently Jessie hosted the comp. I'm excited. UO but I love me some Jessie. He brings the laughs.

 

OMG! Mr. Pectacular himself? I love him so much. Austin's dream is probably to be locked into a Pandora's Box with him for an hour. I was wondering if he was going to show up sometime soon. It's been awhile.

 

Oh fuck now Vanessa is blaming everything on PMS. I can't. Also, she was swearing on her mother earlier. Again, I ask, DOES SHE NOT VALUE HER MOTHER'S LIFE?!

 

Seriously. She should see a doctor, because I've learned from the feeds that she's been on her period almost every single week. It's always her excuse. PMS, my period, I feel sick... Something ain't right there.

 

Oh, now she hurt herself during the puzzle HoH comp as well. Okay then. Can she not come up with a new excuse?

 

ETA: LOL at the twins talking about how hot Jessie was. Poor Austin. I wonder if Liz is ready to jump ship.

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I don't think the stupid ideas were Julia's, she would constantly bring up a good point only to have Liz veto it, and she would follow that up by reflecting back an idea building off Liz's paranoias and fears about "their" game. Yeah her passivity makes it hart to tell what she'd actually do on her own, maybe she'll just glom on to Van and not assert herself, but ideally and I say this as someone who would prefer to see two women stick together to the end, her best move is to go work with JMac her biggest enemy, those are the game turning moves, getting over your personal ish to get further in the game, even if that means allying with an "enemy".

 

Hmm interesting she wants to target Steve, that's not good for her IMO, but I like it because it will calm Johnny Mac down and make him ore likely to vote out Liz, and getting rid of Liz from this game is my everything right now.

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He's got to vote out Liz if he has any sense. Steve can't play for veto this week and if he leaves Liz in with Austin he leaves the only tight twosome that he KNOWS exists. It may ge the case that Vanessa's best bet is to try to take Julia or Austin to final 2 but is John going to figure that out? He takes out Liz and them he and Steve have to worry about Austin winning HOH. But his odds are better.

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Are Liz & Austin divorcing? This is tragic!

 

It's a tragicomedy! Cause I'm laughing a lot.

 

A: Clay didnt' really understand how these things work (relationships? showmances? who knows?)

 

Which is funny because he still has something going on with Shelli most likely, and you are getting dumped in front of all America. 

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If she would not get all self-righteous, sitting on her high horse when everyone else does it then it'd be fine by me. If she'd own it in the DR it'd be fine by me. She really is the second coming of Derrick.

Thank you! This is a problem I've been seeing (elsewhere) on the internet: People crying sexism and claiming that aggressive gameplay among male contestants is applauded while female contestants are shamed for it. No, it's just a sad coincidence that many female houseguests (BB3 Danielle Reyes, Maggie, Vanessa) either refuse to own up to their tactics or become overly apologetic when discussing them. I think the viewers would absolutely welcome another woman who played the game with an unabashed sense of badassery. Hell, they clearly had no problem with houseguests like Janelle, Nakomis, or (to a lesser extent) Daniele.

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Austin strutting around the house still wearing the POV is not helping his case with Liz. I'm upset he won veto, I was so hoping he was the one leaving.

 

The smart play is to put up Julia and vote out Liz but who knows at this point what Steve would do.

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It's precisely because he has to win HoH/Veto that he should be wanting to eliminate the fiercest comp threats that he's NOT allied to, aka in order Liz, Austin, Julia. Also I actually think he's in really good position the only one who would put him up FOR SURE is Julia, at any time he could pull together Steve/Austin to vote out Van. 

Saving Liz can give him leverage with Austin and Liz, specifically by saying "you guys should turn on Vanessa now, since she wants Julia to herself."

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Austin now says Liz is trapped with him and she'll what have to "calm" down and he doesn't have to worry about her calling him two weeks later with her crazy?

 

JESUS such an asshole.

 

ETA: fun fact Johnny Mac has been laughing AT Austin during this whole conversation all while appearing to laugh with him. This is the kind of thing that makes me like Johnny Mac *finally*. 

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Please now folks, let's all remember that Austin is no longer in the house, apparently Judas is here now.  He was talking about how he said that when he won the veto and now wants them to change the name on the memory wall.  I'm guessing Judas wants Liz to kiss it (the POV medallion, of course). 

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Heh. Austin... sorry, Judas is strutting around the house with the Veto around his neck like it's the WWE Heavyweight Title or something. He goes to see Liz, asks if anything is wrong... and she has the covers up over her head. That's a clear keep moving, asshole sign if I've ever seen one.

 

How sad. I think they're going to break up. 

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What drives me crazy are the constant hats on Vanessa's head.

My husband doesn't like big brother and doesn't watch but the few times he has watched he asked me if something was wrong with vanessas head bc she always wears a hat

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Oh my god, a Liz/Austin fight. I feel like Liz is taking this opportunity to find a way to break things off with him, but I understand her being pissed. Austin's giving BS reasons of him having no idea what was going on, and he wanted to throw it to Julia but he 'had to win'. Yep, that's gonna smooth things over, buddy.

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Hmmm, so Liz is actually mad because he let her know he was the PAWN and he still played hard for Veto. Haha. He's now lying his face off about not being in a room with Steve/John/Van and knowing this. 

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Aw, Austin is wearing the Veto this whole time because the feed watchers like seeing it! Thanks, Austin! Now self-evict because Liz is breaking up with you.

 

Julia to Liz about him wearing the Veto: "Or you're just trying to rub it in, you little prick."

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Also I love Van selling his ass down the river to Liz, and Liz saying she has A LOT of INFORMATION. Hee Vanessa is their damn Over Lord. Hee.

 

But then Vanessa started trying to soothe things over with them. So fucking annoying. She better stop with that shit. I still blame her for Liz/Austin even happening in the first place.

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