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TWP

TWP

+1. People died, buddy. That ought to be a big enough deal to give you perspective on random twitter troll accounts you don't have to read.

They typically don't engage with people who say positive things. We are typically ignored. Why he had to engage a troll, I'll never know. I guess it shows how stressed they are over there. Rob is the one who retweeted TVOVERMIND Joy's rather negative post this morning and reassured that nobody's getting divorced. His job is on the line these days. He's really stressed today. But he works in a literary profession and needs to hold himself to a higher standard. Words are their tools. They should use them wisely.

 

I agree with him on one point. I think people are going to like this episode. ;-).

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WendyCR72
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Let me introduce you to How I Met Your Mother...

Sara2009
Sara2009

Tbh, this drama is more interesting than the show has been in quite some time.

oberon55
oberon55

This is completely true. But at the same time I watch TV for escape. I watch all kinds of shows & have different expectations depending on the show. When I watch gritty shows like Breaking Bad or

TWP

TWP

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I'll be unpopular: People want to dish it out? Great. Professional or not, don't be shocked when it is thrown back at you. Yes, there is the block function. But maybe, just maybe, people should learn some common decency instead of acting like obnoxious douches because of being anonymous.

 

The ideal option would be to ignore, but hey. They want attention, they got it.

Personally, I don't take issue with calling out a troll -- that's his business -- but only with invoking the terrorist attack to do it.  

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WendyCR72

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Personally, I don't take issue with calling out a troll....only with invoking the terrorist attack to do it.  

 

Okay, but maybe that was an awkward reality check for folks flipping their shit over the show so intensely. Perhaps he could've been more circumspect. But with the Twitter crowd, subtle rarely works.

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TWP

TWP

Okay, but maybe that was an awkward reality check for folks flipping their shit over the show so intensely. Perhaps he could've been more circumspect. But with the Twitter crowd, subtle rarely works.

 

Yes for certain, about the Twitter crowd. ;-).

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Julia

Julia

I'll be unpopular: People want to dish it out? Great. Professional or not, don't be shocked when it is thrown back at you. Yes, there is the block function. But maybe, just maybe, people should learn some common decency instead of acting like obnoxious douches because of being anonymous.

 

The ideal option would be to ignore, but hey. They want attention, they got it.

I don't disagree. I do think that he handed a win to a troll by enormously increasing the reach of their tweets while, honestly, failing resoundingly to pwn them. Because nobody on any active side of a bitchwar about a tv show gets to play the mass murder card without looking kind of shallow and lacking in impulse control, JMO.

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They typically don't engage with people who say positive things. We are typically ignored. Why he had to engage a troll, I'll never know. I guess it shows how stressed they are over there. Rob is the one who retweeted TVOVERMIND Joy's rather negative post this morning and reassured that nobody's getting divorced. His job is on the line these days. He's really stressed today. But he works in a literary profession and needs to hold himself to a higher standard. Words are their tools. They should use them wisely.

 

I agree with him on one point. I think people are going to like this episode. ;-).

Good to know that someone from Castle's crew is reading Joy's blog. She has been brutal towards the new producers over the decision to split them up including how it has regressed the characters and discarded the show history.

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Chado

Chado

They can dangle the divorce line in the promo for tonight's episode but can't cut a good promo for the episode that is the winter finale? How does that make sense. Give us something to argue about, urgh. Clueless.

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CastleSeason8

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They can dangle the divorce line in the promo for tonight's episode but can't cut a good promo for the episode that is the winter finale? How does that make sense. Give us something to argue about, urgh. Clueless.

Exactly. And for those of us hoping angry Rick would make an appearance, i guess its back to goofus Rick. Sigh

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They can dangle the divorce line in the promo for tonight's episode but can't cut a good promo for the episode that is the winter finale? How does that make sense. Give us something to argue about, urgh. Clueless.

 

I think it is pretty well established that the promo people at ABC suck. Not just for Castle.

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verdana

verdana

Oh boy that promo sucks big time, awful.

I was expecting something more serious after tonight but it's like we're heading back to an earlier 'fun' episode of slapstick comedy with Castle as head clown.

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cappuccino

cappuccino

Don't know if it has been on this thread or the media thread but after last night's episode I doubt they'll hook up any time soon. Castle reading that message, the new handsome attorney showing up.....they'll go down the road of Castle thinking Beckett found a new boy toy. I don't get how he isn't able to put two and two together and link her behavior back to the season opener but hey jealousy and possible affairs are a much better storyline. More fun and never been before.

 

And can we assume next week either Castle shoots down anything coming his way from Beckett because of that message, Beckett giving him the time out shoulder again or they are going back to the kissus interruptus crap. Some people are already looking forward to a repeat next week since they'll be alone on a ship.

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verdana

verdana

Some people are already looking forward to a repeat next week since they'll be alone on a ship.

If you mean another time out from the time out, I can't think of anything worse. It they let them continue to have sex and not talk about their issues over this separation it's wrong on so many levels i just can't get my head around the idea fans can't wait for more of it. It would cheapen everything, it's got to be more than just about Caskett banging so that makes everything right in Castleland. But looking at the general flailing on tumblr and twitter over the end scene, I may be in the minority.

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Tim

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Personally, I don't take issue with calling out a troll -- that's his business -- but only with invoking the terrorist attack to do it.  

If you read all 4 tweets from RH you would see he was referring to his time on another show, after 911, when they were finding it hard to be funny after eulogizing two of their own, and then the family told them the co workers would want them to go on, without laughter there is no life, which is what the troll took off on.  Also the one who has engaged in several Twitter wars, Blocked that account and about 4 more which are setup to spew hate

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westwingfan

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I hear the latest ABC Advisory Panel survey asking about Castle has questions on Alexis and Hayley. I wonder if they will get positive feedback, social media revealed supporters of both viewpoints from what I could tell. Will be interesting to see if there is any noticeable change in their usage, but they've nearly finished 8x11 so it will only effect the second half of the season, if at all. Alexis usually appears in the first six or seven episodes anyway so no change there, but she normally only appears in a few of the mid season episodes, and then the last three or four. Hayley's appearance investigating in the Nose gave them the excuse to bring her back last night, I didn't watch Cool Boys so I don't know what the reason for her turning up in that one were, but they already seem to have run out of ideas to include her if you ask me, but I guess they needed something to fill the gap left by the reduced Caskett professional time. If somehow the level of Castle and Beckett scenes can match what we got last night perhaps they won't need Hayley so much from now on. The showrunners made a big thing that she was bringing a voice to the show that it didn't have and was an exciting addition, but I never felt she brought much to the episodes.

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verdana

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Good to know that someone from Castle's crew is reading Joy's blog. She has been brutal towards the new producers over the decision to split them up including how it has regressed the characters and discarded the show history.

 

I doubt it because the writers don't seem to like anything negative coming their way from the fans, pity because she's been on point with so many of the issues that have been raised here and elsewhere about the inherent problems with the separation and other issues. 

Promo pics are out for 8.08

 

Castle - Episode 8.08 - Mr. & Mrs. Castle - Promotional Photos

 

Looks like Castle is in a talent show contest I guess time for more fun and games. 

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verdana

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Hayley's appearance investigating in the Nose gave them the excuse to bring her back last night, I didn't watch Cool Boys so I don't know what the reason for her turning up in that one were, but they already seem to have run out of ideas to include her if you ask me, but I guess they needed something to fill the gap left by the reduced Caskett professional time. If somehow the level of Castle and Beckett scenes can match what we got last night perhaps they won't need Hayley so much from now on. The showrunners made a big thing that she was bringing a voice to the show that it didn't have and was an exciting addition, but I never felt she brought much to the episodes.

I wouldn't get my hopes up, 8.07 struck me as a "special" episode of the type Marlowe used to do where they deliberately gave the couple more screen time and fans extra Casketty goodness (this time because it was their anniversary) and normal service will be resumed and it will scaled back again.  I agree with you that Hayley has brought nothing that special to the show, her appearances feel increasingly forced, especially with Beckett. She's supposedly now consulting for Castle on jobs so that's her excuse to hang around the office with Alexis but there is no reason for her to be constantly involved in NYPD cases and it's bizarre that Beckett lets her in so easily. Her turning up to collect the picture this week was a weak excuse to have her in the building so she could then go to the spa. 

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westwingfan

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I wouldn't get my hopes up, 8.07 struck me as a "special" episode of the type Marlowe used to do where they deliberately gave the couple more screen time and fans extra Casketty goodness (this time because it was their anniversary) and normal service will be resumed and it will scaled back again.  I agree with you that Hayley has brought nothing that special to the show, her appearances feel increasingly forced, especially with Beckett. She's supposedly now consulting for Castle on jobs so that's her excuse to hang around the office with Alexis but there is no reason for her to be constantly involved in NYPD cases and it's bizarre that Beckett lets her in so easily. Her turning up to collect the picture this week was a weak excuse to have her in the building so she could then go to the spa. 

Well they spent three days filming on the Queen Mary, although there was only confirmation that they were there together on one of those days, so they might manage a little more than the 5-6 mins that someone timed as their average shared screen time for the first five episodes.

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madmaverick

madmaverick

I wondered if they would go all Titanic when I heard they were filming on a cruise ship.  I guess they did heh.  One thing I love about Castle is that he has such a joie de vivre.  Maybe that uniquely equips him to handle something as terrible as a separation in his own unique way.  ;)

 

I'll be unpopular: People want to dish it out? Great. Professional or not, don't be shocked when it is thrown back at you. Yes, there is the block function. But maybe, just maybe, people should learn some common decency instead of acting like obnoxious douches because of being anonymous.

 

Good luck trying to teach common decency to the obnoxious douches out there on the internet. ;)  There is the block button, but there are crazy people out there who will just set up account after account spewing the same vitriol after they've been blocked, or even have multiple accounts to spread their own brand of hate and rumour to make believe as if there are people who agree with them.  All quite pathetic, but there it is.  Don't have to be Sherlock to figure out that people are doing this.  They are never as anon as they believe they are, but obnoxious they certainly are.

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verdana

verdana

Well they spent three days filming on the Queen Mary, although there was only confirmation that they were there together on one of those days, so they might manage a little more than the 5-6 mins that someone timed as their average shared screen time for the first five episodes.

They're supposedly trapped on there so may be they'll have no choice but to give us more Caskett for those final two episodes before the hiatus, the fans certainly deserve it. 

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BellyLaughter

BellyLaughter

I get why Hayley hangs around the office. I don't get why Alexis does...GO TO SCHOOL. And Luke, please put her in something a 21 year old would actually wear!

 

I don't think Luke knows how to dress a 21 yr old......or a 44 yr old either, come to think of it.....

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MaryM47

MaryM47

The BS storyline on our formerly favorite show has become a meme -a tv line.com article wondered if a couple on another show that is also having problems would be "pulling a Castle" and "taking a time out from their time out."

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The BS storyline on our formerly favorite show has become a meme -a tv line.com article wondered if a couple on another show that is also having problems would be "pulling a Castle" and "taking a time out from their time out."

Oh my gosh! What a development! 

 

No, they won't do a timeout from the timeout. For one thing, this will be a first time and at least one of the players is particularly vulnerable. That would be an extreme disservice. While they've munged the characters a little, especially lately, they don't completely derail them (which is why I come back every week). For another, unlike Castle, this show's story lines make sense most of the time. When they don't make sense and it's a big deal, they don't drag the nonsense out for 8 or more episodes. ( I will allow that nobody in their right mind would do some of the things the characters do, but it's a running gag, rather than a detractor.) They are generally pretty kind to their audience, no eff-yous to us like I've seen Castle show do. And yes the ratings reward them for their respect to their viewers. We don't feel like codependents just coming back for more, like I think some of us do with Castle. They sell a product that we mostly want to buy.

 

I hope the time out from the time out trope doesn't become a norm.  It felt very much like the forbidden love/affair trope, which typically has me running for the hills. And in this case, it's even more frustrating, because there is no marriage to be ruined, no real obstacle...just the phony one.

 

It's gotten to the point for me that anything on ABC is like anything on Lifetime network. Just don't go there.  I really think the general "character of shows" is driven by the networks.  I can just see the network coming down on the show via a dood in a derby hat with cigar hanging out of his mouth."If you break them up, seeeee, you have to have a booty call, seeeee, the advertisers, seeee"

 

I'm a CBS kind of girl.

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Sheldon and Amy's timeout made sense though.  Amy put up with Sheldon not advancing their relationship for years.  Suddenly (can't remember exactly the trigger), she decided she wasn't going to deal with it anymore. No false obstacle has been placed in their relationship to break them up.  Amy just got (very justifiably) tired.  As viewers, we fully understood and bought into why. Now, Sheldon's growing because of the breakup. Amy's playing the field a little to figure out what she wants to do with her life.  It all makes sense (as much as it can in a silly half hour comedy).  Sheldon is also a virgin and is head over heels in love with Amy.  Not sure, but I think Amy might be a virgin too (and loves him too, although they haven't explored how passionately).  I think their getting together again will be predicated on advancing their relationship.  Amy will want that.  Also, Sheldon wants to marry Amy.  So, I suspect the pairing will come with a reunion, because it will be more sympathetic to the characters. These two are not one-night-stand types. And as I said above, TBBT tends to be more respectful of the audience than certain other shows I know....which is why their ratings, while ever decreasing, are ridiculously high compared to other shows.

 

Comparing Shamy to Caskett to suggest a booty call is a bogus comparison.

 

And of course, read between the lines that the character advancement aspects of the breakup are refreshing on TBBT, because similar advancements aren't happening on another show I know ;-).

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AntiBeeSpray

AntiBeeSpray

Regardless of whether a break up makes sense or not, time out is still a dumb word. I can sort of see them using it on TBBT because they are supposed to be socially awkward.  But it still just sounds so dumb. 

 

Yes it does. Regardless of the show. Time Out? Time Apart makes more sense in my opinion.

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Cyranetta

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Regardless of whether a break up makes sense or not, time out is still a dumb word. I can sort of see them using it on TBBT because they are supposed to be socially awkward.  But it still just sounds so dumb.

Cynically, I find it quite appropriate, since in a game, it's used to delay action. Reducing either the LokSat mess or the Caskett marriage to game-play does define what's happened in S8.

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verdana

verdana

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⭐️Cupkate ‏@katicangel  2h2 hours ago

Who is waiting for the sneak peeks? #Castle

 

 

Me! I may watch them this week since it's the last one for a while. I'm keen to see some Locksat business going down or do I get a goofy "fun" Castle clip?  I'm also rather keen on seeing Castle doing his "I'm King of the World!" impression in front of an embarrassed Beckett. 

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TWP

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Yes it does. Regardless of the show. Time Out? Time Apart makes more sense in my opinion.

I don't think they used the words Time Out on TBBT. That was TVLine, while doing a nonsensical comparison to Castle.  They were broken up.  Amy first said she needed a break and then officially broke up and was dating other people. It was a true breakup. 

 

Also, TBBT spoiler,

they are back together before they have sex.

  So the comparison between them and Castle is just in Ausiello's mind.  It had nothing to do with reality.  Like I said, TBBT is a whole lot kinder to fans than Castle has ever been.

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cappuccino

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I don't think they used the words Time Out on TBBT. That was TVLine, while doing a nonsensical comparison to Castle.  They were broken up.  Amy first said she needed a break and then officially broke up and was dating other people. It was a true breakup. 

 

Also, TBBT spoiler,

they are back together before they have sex.

  So the comparison between them and Castle is just in Ausiello's mind.  It had nothing to do with reality.  Like I said, TBBT is a whole lot kinder to fans than Castle has ever been.

Thank God you spoiled me for that one. Guess I'll leave that episode untouched then or maybe even stop watching altogether.

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CastleSeason8

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Im trying to figure things out. What was the order of filming? Was 'Cool Boys' originally really meant to be the finale and they changed their minds? Or do u think 'Mr & Mrs' was always in the works to be before the break? I think 'Cool Boys' fit in after 'Last Seduction' story wise. Am i wrong?

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