BkWurm1 January 22, 2016 Share January 22, 2016 A raise is only going to come when the contract is up and the negotiations happen so probably only if Arrow goes past season seven. Even then she could just get a few perks, like the chance to direct rather than a big payout. At least that's the way it worked on Smallville. Popularity does matter then, a lot. Allison Mack has talked about how she was able to point to a fan made and paid for commercial about her character at the end of season 9 to demand a good deal for her return in season 10. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1890107
dtissagirl January 22, 2016 Share January 22, 2016 The contracts usually stipulate a % raise for every season. The dudes on SPN are making something like 175K per episode now, because the show's been going on so long. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1890237
AyChihuahua January 22, 2016 Share January 22, 2016 A raise is only going to come when the contract is up and the negotiations happen so probably only if Arrow goes past season seven. Even then she could just get a few perks, like the chance to direct rather than a big payout. At least that's the way it worked on Smallville. Popularity does matter then, a lot. Allison Mack has talked about how she was able to point to a fan made and paid for commercial about her character at the end of season 9 to demand a good deal for her return in season 10. If the contract doesn't require a raise or a bonus, that doesn't mean they can't do it anyway. Studios have been known to give talent cars, etc., when they're happy with the talent, not because they have to, but bc they want to. (Not out of the goodness of their hearts, but to keep valued talent happy.) 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1890542
BkWurm1 January 23, 2016 Share January 23, 2016 The contracts usually stipulate a % raise for every season. The dudes on SPN are making something like 175K per episode now, because the show's been going on so long. Sure, of course. I meant a big change to her base salary rather than anything incremental. If the contract doesn't require a raise or a bonus, that doesn't mean they can't do it anyway. Studios have been known to give talent cars, etc., when they're happy with the talent, not because they have to, but bc they want to. (Not out of the goodness of their hearts, but to keep valued talent happy.) I think I might be more cynical than you on this point. :D Hard to believe! Lol. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1892735
Velocity23 January 23, 2016 Share January 23, 2016 According to the Programming Insider Arrow and Flash tied in the male 18-34 demos. (The 18-49 numbers for Arrow seems to be wrong because they dont add up to the rating. Probably mistakenly copied from the SPN ratings. The 18-34 seems to be accurate according to the press release from the CW on Wednesday). Also LOT demo breakdown for comparison. http://programminginsider.com/ 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1892806
Morrigan2575 January 23, 2016 Share January 23, 2016 Thanks for the demo breakdown Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1892895
statsgirl January 23, 2016 Share January 23, 2016 Do demos still reflect accurately who watches? I noticed that the 18-49 demos are higher than the 18-34 ones in most categories but isn't that more a reflection of the fact that younger viewers don't have cable? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1893528
SmallScreenDiva January 24, 2016 Share January 24, 2016 Can anyone suggest an alternative to Topsy for Twitter analytics? I've been using Keyhole but it's crap compared with Topsy. Haven't really found a free alternative that offered comparisons like Topsy did. As for the ratings, considering the meager promotions CW did for Arrow throughout the hiatus were all about whether Felicity was dead or alive, IMO, there's no way the suits are interpreting the numbers as anything other than "They really love Felicity!" 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1894162
JenMD January 24, 2016 Share January 24, 2016 Thanks, SmallScreenDiva, I'll take a look! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1894196
kismet January 24, 2016 Share January 24, 2016 There is a strong argument that more people tuned in for FSs fate. It will be interesting to see what ratings do now that the people know that FS is not dead both in present & in the future. My prediction is they will drop to the usual number, maybe a few dips after BM drama plays out. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1895044
Chaser January 25, 2016 Share January 25, 2016 I'm curious about the pattern. Olicity had that great 'for better or worst' moment (positive) but the episode ended with the no-ring limo ride (negative). I read that they were going to expand ratings to include Tumblr, FB and I think at one point YouTube was mentioned as well. Does anyone know how that would work or if/when it would be happening? I was thinking about the impact that losing Felicity or Diggle would have on the ratings. Arrow seems to have a pretty steady viewership so I'm not sure just how much it would effect the actual ratings, but I think the social media traffic would take a big hit. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1898064
Primal Slayer January 25, 2016 Share January 25, 2016 Social media wise I could definitely see the show taking a big hit, ratings rise I don't think anything major would change. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1898074
Guest January 25, 2016 Share January 25, 2016 (edited) Yeah, Arrow will always have an audience no matter who dies. But I do agree that social media buzz would take a huge dive. I mean, Arrow was number 1 in the Nielsen TV twitter ratings for 410. That never happens. Edited January 25, 2016 by Guest Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1898080
tv echo January 25, 2016 Share January 25, 2016 I disagree. I think both social media buzz and ratings would drop significantly if Felicity were to leave the show (for any reason). But what do I know? (shrug) 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1898141
dtissagirl January 25, 2016 Share January 25, 2016 I read that they were going to expand ratings to include Tumblr, FB and I think at one point YouTube was mentioned as well. Does anyone know how that would work or if/when it would be happening? There are two separate things -- Nielsen is gonna start tracking Facebook alongside Twitter: 1. http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/press-room/2016/nielsen-to-launch-social-content-ratings-with-measurement-across-twitter-and-facebook.html 2. http://sites.nielsen.com/newscenter/nielsen-to-measure-total-program-related-conversation-across-twitter-and-facebook/ A company called ListenFirst tracks what they call Digital Audience Ratings for TV, in partnership with Variety. They track Facebook, Google+, Instagram, Tumblr, Wikipedia and YouTube [but not Twitter]: http://data.listenfirstmedia.com/digital-audience-rating-tv/ 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1898158
Guest January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 I'm seeing a lot of complaints that people were preempted for baseball or basketball...does that effect the ratings in a big way? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1906722
Chaser January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Pretty sure it depends on what markets were preempted. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1906738
Velocity23 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 (edited) I seen complaints that Columbia, South Carolina tv market was preempted. But that seems like a really smallish tv market. Outside the top 56 tv markets. Also Richmond. Edited January 28, 2016 by Velocity23 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1907003
Velocity23 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Not really. And they only report top 56 markets in the fast nationals. None of the markets is in those markets. Bigger markets barely have an impact. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1907101
Morrigan2575 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Columbia is #77 in Top 100 Markets and has about 400K households. http://www.tvb.org/media/file/Nielsen_2014-2015_DMA_Ranks.pdf I seriously doubt it will have any noticeable impact on Arrow's ratings; t's not like NY, LA or Chicago were preempted. Also, if the episode aired same day (before 2AM) it still gets counted in the Finals. So was the episode delayed or was it to be aired at a later date (weekend?). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1907213
Velocity23 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Will air Saturdays. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1907251
Velocity23 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Arrow was number 8 in Nielsen Twitter TV Ratings Weekly Top Ten 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1907291
Velocity23 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Arrow got a 1.1 and 2.746 mil viewers 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1907697
Chaser January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 I hope it adjusts up, but honestly that's stronger than I thought it would be. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1907720
Morrigan2575 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 It's the same ratings as 410. Not sure how 1.1 is a bad rating for Arrow. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1907722
lemotomato January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 I was hoping it would be as good as last week's ratings. The fact that "Arrow" and "Felicity" trended almost all night were good signs. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1907730
Chaser January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Oh I didn't mean to imply it was bad. 1.1 is good, better than what I was expecting. I just like Diggle/Felicity focused episodes to always adjust up. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1907732
Velocity23 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 They got 1.1 last year also. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1907738
Guest January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 That's pretty good! I thought it would be lower because some got preempted. Holding the 1.1 demo is great. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1907746
EmilyBettFan January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 That's awesome. I'm glad my previous post didn't really apply to these ratings. Hope it adjusts up! This episode deserves it! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1908017
bijoux January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 #Arrow's AWOL episode ranks #1 on @NielsenSocial's Daily Top 5 for Wednesday. This is 2nd week Arrow's ranked #1 Source 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1908049
Guest January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 At the top two weeks in a row. That's impressive. Never seen that before with Arrow. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1908311
EmilyBettFan January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 It is. It's amazing because the first one 4x10 on Twitter happened because we all wanted to know about Felicity. 4x11 is #1 again for Diggle, Felicity and Oliver! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1908357
Velocity23 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1908506
lemotomato January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 I love that Arrow is getting a lot of fan generated buzz, considering it's in its 4th season and gets fuck all promotion by the network. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1908533
Velocity23 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Must say SPN is doing good also. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1908564
Velocity23 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Arrow got a 1.1 and 2.78 mil viewers in the adjusted ratings 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1908677
EmilyBettFan January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Yay it adjusted up in the audience views! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1908940
tv echo January 29, 2016 Share January 29, 2016 (edited) MG took notice of the #1 twitter ratings (also read the fan comments to his tweet)... Marc Guggenheim @mguggenheimRT Second week in a row! Penny @SAEBRfan@CW_Arrow tops the Nielsen Twitter TV Ratings AGAIN! This is fantastic! #Arrow12:31 PM - 28 Jan 2016 https://twitter.com/mguggenheim/status/692807110887772161 Edited January 29, 2016 by tv echo 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1910269
Velocity23 January 31, 2016 Share January 31, 2016 Demo breakdown for all the show in Flarrowverse this week Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1915602
EmilyBettFan January 31, 2016 Share January 31, 2016 I don't know where this goes but did anyone do the screen time for A.W.O.L? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1915953
Morrigan2575 January 31, 2016 Share January 31, 2016 (edited) She'll have them posted tomorrow morning Edited January 31, 2016 by Morrigan2575 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1916021
EmilyBettFan February 1, 2016 Share February 1, 2016 Thank you Morrigan2575 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1917131
Starfish35 February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 Arrow dropped from 1.1 to 0.9 in preliminary ratings. http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-sked-wednesday-ratings-2-3-2016.html Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1928288
Morrigan2575 February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 You know, I thought Roy's return would be a bigger draw but when I looked at my sheet, all of the Roy episodes scored a 0.9. The only exception being Tremors in S2 which scored a 1.2 but that also featured the return of Bronze Tiger. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1928354
wonderwall February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 Almost every show dropped during the 8-9 time slot. I wonder why... Cue "FELICITY IS RUINING THE SHOW" comments lol Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1928389
Chaser February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 (edited) I was trying to figure out the promotion of the episode and it was kind of all over the place. The previews felt very VOW with a guest appearance by Roy. KL was doing the interviews talking up LOA and Malcolm. And then post- interviews are focused on Felicity's father. Edited February 4, 2016 by Chaser Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1928392
Starfish35 February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 Yeah apparently Roy isn't much of an audience draw. :( Last year 312 (Uprising) got a 1.2. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1928394
Chaser February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 I feel like last year was a special case. Arrow rode that crossover high for quite awhile and 3x12 featured Oliver's return from the dead. The previews on this one felt like filler. I'm curious if it would have done better if they sold it more on Felicity's father and Nyssa/Thea storyline. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1928411
Chaser February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 I know that Felicity trended. Did anything else? Roy or Arsenal? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/18942-ratings-and-scheduling-hail-to-the-gods/page/22/#findComment-1928435
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