S02.E06: Attila

[AstridM]

1 minute ago, arc said:

The sentence in full was "Thank you for coming in, Harmony. Mr Drummond will see you out." It's certainly possible that to maintain some distance from the lower ranks that Helena said that to Harmony because Harmony is not someone who would be calling Drummond by his first name.

It sounds like you’ve spent more time than the average viewer watching these episodes. Maybe keep that in mind before assuming others haven’t been paying attention. Most people don’t have time to watch episodes more than once. That frolic tattoo was shown for a mere few seconds that first time in the diner, IIRC. 

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2 minutes ago, AstridM said:

That frolic tattoo was shown for a mere few seconds that first time in the diner, IIRC. 

Yes. I just checked. In 2x02, he's holding a cup of coffee, and from that shot on his hand the camera immediately pulls back a bit to show it's Mr Drummond, established earlier in the episode.

He's been a really crucial secondary cast member! He personally spied on the Scout siblings, then approved the replacement MDR workers, and then after that he's the one who approved (or spoke for the board in) rehiring Mark's friends and forcing some version of Helly back to MDR.

10 minutes ago, AstridM said:

It sounds like you’ve spent more time than the average viewer watching these episodes. Maybe keep that in mind before assuming others haven’t been paying attention.

To be clear, I don't rewatch entire episodes very often at all. I've just been rewatching bits and pieces here for purposes of replying to the forum thread in order to confirm what I already remembered from watching the first time. Because I was paying attention the first time.

[JenE4]

I always had the impression that Drummond is a spokesperson for the board, like Natalie. If Natalie is the voice of the board, Drummond is the muscle. Natalie is only trusted to pass messages along verbatim, in real time. I assume Drummond is more of a fixer. The board tells him there’s a problem and entrusts him to take care of it. 

[peachmangosteen]

12 hours ago, KarenX said:

And I hate that they are making Dylan’s Outie such a loser. It feels like sabotage of these two characters. I straight up despise Gretchen for exploiting Dylan the Innie because she’s bored. She’s awful.

I kinda didn't like her right away but I thought maybe it was because I sort of have an irrational annoyance of Merritt Wever's acting. Now though I think she just actually does suck.

1 hour ago, JenE4 said:

I always had the impression that Drummond is a spokesperson for the board, like Natalie. If Natalie is the voice of the board, Drummond is the muscle. Natalie is only trusted to pass messages along verbatim, in real time. I assume Drummond is more of a fixer. The board tells him there’s a problem and entrusts him to take care of it. 

That would make sense but it would be odd for 'the muscle' to conduct Milchick's performance review.

Edited 54 minutes ago by peachmangosteen

[JenE4]

6 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

 

That would make sense but it would be odd for 'the muscle' to conduct Milchick's performance review.

When I say fixer/muscle, I don’t mean just physically. Drummond was also the one who told Helena she had to get Helly back in there. I think when there’s any tough “convincing” that needs to be done, Drummond passes along the message from the board that you have no choice in the matter. 

[Affogato]

50 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I kinda didn't like her right away but I thought maybe it was because I sort of have an irrational annoyance of Merritt Wever's acting. Now though I think she just actually does suck.

That would make sense but it would be odd for 'the muscle' to conduct Milchick's performance review.

It may be that the refning group is actually the whole focus of the severance program. It is at minimum a really vital experiment. I’m theorizing, in bringing the dead back to life. I really suspect ‘the board’ is deceased. Even if not, drummond clearly has oversight o er this particular program.Helena does not, she probably does not have an actual job in the company (except for Helly). 

50 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I kinda didn't like her right away but I thought maybe it was because I sort of have an irrational annoyance of Merritt Wever's acting. Now though I think she just actually does suck.

It is an unusual circumstance. Also she is obviously bearing the brunt of the stress in the family. InnieD may remind her of why she fell in love with Dylan in the first place. 

Edited 3 minutes ago by Affogato