S04.E13: Ghostsfellas

[shura]

8 hours ago, eel2178 said:

There was a map of the airplane with a sticker for each seat. You told the agent which seats you wanted, and she pulled the stickers for those seats off the map and stuck them onto your ticket envelope.

What an elegant system!  So analog, so simple.  The agent doesn’t even need to keep a record of the seats situation.  Beautiful.

[Snow Apple]

Pete said the nephew (I forgot his name) was such a sweet kid. I wonder if his fate would have changed if Pete was around to influence him. Maybe (probably) not since we're talking about the mob here.

 

Edited February 23 by Snow Apple

[peachmangosteen]

On 2/21/2025 at 12:25 PM, PaulE said:

I also remember that, in both airplanes and restaurants, the non-smoking section was pretty small.  You were made to feel that these areas were grudgingly provided because you were an annoying pain in the ass and that all "normal" Americans smoked or at least didn't mind it.

It's kinda like how now people wearing masks are made to feel 'not normal' when really they're the sane ones lol.

For some reason, the fact that Pete admitted to liking violence in movies a few episodes ago and then acted like he didn't with everyone agreeing in this one was really annoying me. It just makes no sense!

And yea, the postcards thing made no sense either but it was such a sweet moment so it didn't bother me too much.

[iMonrey]

I forgot my favorite line of this episode:

Pete: "The last thing I want is for Jay to be whacked off by a bunch of mobsters!"

I swear I don't know how they get away with some of these double entendres. But "Saul jerked himself off onto Jay" is still the winner.

Runners up for best line:

"One of the cooks makes fake IDs for high school kids."

"There shall be no hanky. Nor panky."

The set decoration for the restaurant kitchen is interesting. One wall is completely covered in glass jars filled with all sorts of things. I can't imagine how practical that would be, or that Jay would need that many different spices and such, even though it looks cool. 

To readdress something I mentioned in an earlier post, last week (in "It's The End of the World As We Know it") Pete said he loved blood sports because he has a lot of repressed rge. He went to an MMA fight and sat in the front row. And remembers watching boxing for as a kid. This doesn't really square with him finding certain movies too violent. 

[astrohip]

16 hours ago, eel2178 said:

1968: we stopped at the ticket counter to be assigned seats. (There was a map of the airplane with a sticker for each seat. You told the agent which seats you wanted, and she pulled the stickers for those seats off the map and stuck them onto your ticket envelope.

Funny story: Around 1990, wife & I are flying from Houston to Ixtapa, on Aeroméxico. Layover in Mexico City, with about a 2 hour gap.

We get off in Mexico City and wander around the airport. When we get back to the gate, they tell us there was a problem with the original plane, and we have a new plane. Our luggage has all been transferred, but we need to pick new seat stickers, as it's a different aircraft. No problem, pick seats, put the sticker on our tickets.

Just as we start to board, they realized the sticker layout they used was from a completely different aircraft, neither our original or the one that replaced it. No one's sticker makes any sense.

At this point they said just find a seat, and as soon as everyone is seated, we'll take off. We were headed for a Mexican beach resort, plus had just spent an hour+ in the airport killing time 🍹 so everyone was "sure no prob".

Nowadays, there would be lawsuits filed, and people complaining about seat assignments, it would be all over social media, and no one would be happy.

[Driad]

Many Australian pilots are jokers.  I heard of one who boarded a plane (not in uniform) and sat in a passenger seat.  A while after the scheduled takeoff time, he stood up and said loudly, "If that pilot isn't going to show up, I'll fly the plane myself." And he did.

When I was there, one pilot announced, "Everyone sitting on the aisle, please pull your elbows in. I can't see out the back." So everyone looked back and of course there was no rear window.

[Chit Chat]

8 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

For some reason, the fact that Pete admitted to liking violence in movies a few episodes ago and then acted like he didn't with everyone agreeing in this one was really annoying me.

In the previous episode he said that he likes 'blood sports' and that he has repressed rage.  I guess he's okay with sitting ringside (the MMA fight he mentioned where teeth went flying) as opposed to seeing people killed on TV.  It doesn't make much sense, but maybe the live action stuff gets his adrenaline going and his repressed rage comes out.  😲

Edited February 23 by Chit Chat

[Bastet]

It works for me -- he repressed his rage and avoided violence when he was alive, but now this many decades into ghost existence he's dealing with that repressed rage by consuming violent entertainment.

[Annber03]

Also, people get murdered in Goodfellas. At least with wrestling, it's all play acting - people are fighting, sure, but nobody's actually being killed. Even with those who do watch violent content, a lot of them still have limits to just how much violence they can tolerate. 

Edited February 23 by Annber03

[eel2178]

4 hours ago, Driad said:

Many Australian pilots are jokers.  I heard of one who boarded a plane (not in uniform) and sat in a passenger seat.  A while after the scheduled takeoff time, he stood up and said loudly, "If that pilot isn't going to show up, I'll fly the plane myself." And he did.

When I was there, one pilot announced, "Everyone sitting on the aisle, please pull your elbows in. I can't see out the back." So everyone looked back and of course there was no rear window.

Last week on a flight from Denver to Las Vegas, we landed and one of the stewards announced, "please be sure you don't leave your personal problems. . . uh, I mean possessions on the plane."

I'm still not sure if it was supposed to be a joke or a Freudian slip. He really did sound surprised and embarrassed.

[Paloma]

This is a stupid question, but I couldn't figure out what the "Tasteful Nudes" referred to. Were they nude photos of Carol (and if so, why would she have had them taken and for whom), or were they nude photos of men that she liked to look at? Or something else entirely?

[ams1001]

13 minutes ago, Paloma said:

This is a stupid question, but I couldn't figure out what the "Tasteful Nudes" referred to. Were they nude photos of Carol (and if so, why would she have had them taken and for whom), or were they nude photos of men that she liked to look at? Or something else entirely?

I assumed they were of her... Maybe for whatshisname she was cheating on Pete with?

[North of Eden]

I generally don't like mob stories so I'll move onto the subplot...what I liked most of all was seeing Flower---who showed while putting together the room switch plot that she could have been a talented and savvy lawyer if her fiancé hadn't come down with a case of LOVE STORY and died propelling her into the cult. Girl had potential! It's kind of sad.

[shapeshifter]

38 minutes ago, North of Eden said:

I generally don't like mob stories so I'll move onto the subplot...what I liked most of all was seeing Flower---who showed while putting together the room switch plot that she could have been a talented and savvy lawyer if her fiancé hadn't come down with a case of LOVE STORY and died propelling her into the cult. Girl had potential! It's kind of sad.

Kind of like my life. But the (real life) bear didn't get me, and eventually I went back to college and had a career. 
So, yes, if Flower had survived, she might have changed course. I don't know the statistics, but I don't think many young people stick with alternative lifestyles for too long if they have other opportunities.
Do we know how old Flower is supposed to be?

ETA: A former friend who is now a Facebook friend is in her 70s and still living in a religious community seemingly focused on mediation. 

Edited Wednesday at 05:37 PM by shapeshifter

[Dimity]

So many good lines but I think my favourite exchange has to be Thor and Flower talking about Paw Patrol 😄.

[kathyk2]

1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

Kind of like my life. But the (real life) bear didn't get me, and eventually I went back to college and had a career. 
So, yes, if Flower had survived, she might have changed course. I don't know the statistics, but I don't think many young people stick with alternative lifestyles for too long if they have other opportunities.
Do we know how old Flower is supposed to be?

ETA: A former friend who is now a Facebook friend is in her 70s and still living in a religious community seemingly focused on mediation. 

Flower would be in her 80's if she were still alive. I don't know why we haven't met any of her family yet. She should have extended family in the area. 

[Skooma]

11 minutes ago, kathyk2 said:

Flower would be in her 80's if she were still alive. I don't know why we haven't met any of her family yet. She should have extended family in the area. 

Why the 80"s.  She should be in her 70's.

[Dimity]

4 minutes ago, Skooma said:

Why the 80"s.  She should be in her 70's.

I think Flower is meant to be roughly the same age as the actress who portrays her so make her 30 on the younger side.  I don't know exactly when she was supposed to have died - '67-'69 time frame?  If that's the case then, yep, Flower would be in her early to mid 80s.

Edited Wednesday at 07:38 PM by Dimity

[Orcinus orca]

17 minutes ago, kathyk2 said:

She should have extended family in the area. 

We don't know that - she may have been following the cult around and be from somewhere else.

[Skooma]

1 minute ago, Dimity said:

I think Flower is meant to be roughly the same age as the actress who portrays her so make her 30 on the younger side.  I don't know exactly when she was supposed to have died - '67-'69 time frame?  If that's the case then, yep, Flower would be in her early to mid 80s.

I think Flower is suppose to be the typical flower child of the late 60's so yeah she should be in her 70's now.  Why would it have anything to do with an real actor's age instead of the age the ghost should have been when she died?

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, Skooma said:

Why would it have anything to do with an real actor's age instead of the age the ghost should have been when she died?

They cast someone who looks 30ish to play a character who was meant to be 30ish.  But in any event we're told her birth date was 1938 in the Owl Episode where they show a picture of a mug shot that was taken of her.

[Snow Apple]

3 hours ago, kathyk2 said:

Flower would be in her 80's if she were still alive. I don't know why we haven't met any of her family yet. She should have extended family in the area. 

They found her brother(?) when they needed an item owned by Flower for a séance but it was just a mention.

[Dimity]

36 minutes ago, Snow Apple said:

They found her brother(?) when they needed an item owned by Flower for a séance but it was just a mention.

Given Flower's age this might be the answer to why we haven't seen more of her family.  The younger ghosts  (in terms of when they died) seem to have more family show up.  Speaking of which, in this episode I loved that the tough mob boss was remembered by Pete as being a sweet little 10 yr old.  Must be a mixed blessing to have this opportunity now to see what happened to people you left behind  40 years before.