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S18.E14: Lies,Lies,Lies!

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Crashcourse

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Well, at least Camille is wearing some nice dresses for a change.

Female Rocky Madison thinks she is sooooo hot and perfect looking.  First, she's trying to dress him and now she's trying to get his teeth straightened.   I never noticed he had crooked teeth.  He needs to stand up for himself and stop letting her make him over, when he knows she doesn't even want him.

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Elizzikra

Elizzikra

Is Ikechi anyone's cup of tea? He's a dick; showing up at couple's retreat with divorce papers and not even a complete set. Did I mishear or did he call her an asshole as he was strutting out the door?

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Allen is getting a  style lesson, and a  Madison-approved change of wardrobe. She's liking the new clothes, calling him "hot," but I feel she's doing this as a friend. Like, (one of her favorite words) she's getting him dressed up for someone else, not her. 

I thought he looked great in his new wardrobe. Some other woman is really going to love the new and improved Allen.

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He needs to stand up for himself and stop letting her make him over, when he knows she doesn't even want him.

I'll admit it. I love Allen. He reminds me of my husband. My husband isn't a traditionally macho guy but he is the strongest and kindest person I know. He has been stuff that would break most people and he has just come through it all with a grace and dignity and love that are beautiful to see. Like Allen, my husband would throw together a beautiful meal for a group of friends and would genuinely hope that everyone enjoyed it. Like Allen, my husband (who really could not care less about what he or anyone else looks like) would dress up to try to make me feel beautiful next to him. I don't dislike Madison but she is not attracted to Allen and isn't going to be. I hope they both find someone who loves them for who they are.

Juan's pornstache is unflattering. I hope that goes.

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princelina

princelina

4 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

Juan has checked out.  He's so tired of Karla and her woo-woo crap.  I wonder how much money she's spent on this stuff?

Not as much as we might think - she said at the beginning that the lady was "her" whatever-she-was-called, and claimed the lady gave her a great reading before, but at the end the woman said, "It's been nice meeting the two of you" 😳

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seacliffsal

seacliffsal

I think Karla is really exhausting to be around.  Juan has really been a good sport and doing what she has wanted to do (and the tantric woman-the fact that he went to a reading after going through the tantric exercises tells me that he is pretty easy going).  I laughed so much with his new look, but I think he just wants to have some fun with this whole thing.

Allen is trying so hard for Madison who is better at lying than is David ('oh, no, I wouldn't go out 3 nights a week' [cue video footage]).  However, I do think the new clothes look really good on him.  And, who does Madison think she is-Alyssa???? I never noticed David's teeth either, but apparently Madison is channeling Alyssa with her smile demands...

I thought Ikechi could not go any lower, but, no, his need for attention go beyond anything I've seen on this show before.  Showing up at the couple's retreat with fake divorce papers?  I'm so glad that Emem didn't fall for it-he wanted her signature for some reason and since she is very successful, I wouldn't be surprised if it was some kind of money grab.  But, he knew what he was doing-disrupting and event in order to make it all about himself.  Nobody should ever sign anything without carefully going over it, and, even better, having a lawyer look at it.

Michelle also knows how to put all of the attention on herself.  So many of these participants really know how to play the victim game.  Come on, just let the others enjoy Allen's cooking and specialty cocktail and have some semblance of fun.

I'm a bit frustrated that I had to sit through over 1 1/2 hours of this show to get to the couple's retreat!  Next week better be pretty great...

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Retired at last

Retired at last

Every time I think my level of disdain and dislike for Michelle has reached a peak, she finds a way to make me even more disgusted. She is so insistent that we all see her as the victim, but she is badly misjudging her own behavior, which she has done the whole show, which is why she is going to remain a single, lonely bitch until she dies.

And Madison and her laugh can just go home. Her tantrums that end up going away need to stop. But, I really need Allen to grow up and acknowledge that he is going nowhere with her, which is good for him - she will never love him. I do hope we get some answers about the reported hook-up with Madison and David or find out it was just the best teaser they could come up for this crappy season.

NO, Juan - please grow back your beard. Someone referred to his "porn stache' and that's what it is. He is a handsome man, but not liking the new look. I imagine that after 8 weeks of Karla, the next woman he meets who is even semi-normal will be able to get him. He keeps saying he came on the show for fun, and that's what he is having.

For Em to insist that she wants to remain married to Ick makes me totally disgusted with HER. She is supposedly a smart woman, but this is not doing her any favors. She seems to speak realistically about him when she is with the group, but I would be surprised if any of them would support her need to stay married, just to meet her goal. The thing with goals is that you need to be smart enough to realize when you set a stupid, harmful goal and be willing to CHANGE IT!

My dislike for Camille continues to grow and fester. She is a very selfish woman and Tom is a great guy. He and Allen need to get together and decide that they both deserve better women in their lives. And they both will easily get them. I have yet to see why they seem so enamored with their wives. I am glad that Allen told Madison that he was NOT in love with her. She already has enough power over him.  Maybe he is feeling paternal and likes caring about someone. She isn't done partying. Camille just needs an AI doll or robot to make over the way she wants since she doesn't seem to care about Tom's needs or interests. I agree that Tom and Camille will be the sole couple who say yes on Decision Day, but I hope they have split by the Reunion. 

Here are my predictions - Michelle will come to the Reunion saying that she has a wonderful man in her life who appreciates her - which will be a complete lie. Karla will say that her many businesses are thriving, but will still be unable to describe what those businesses are. Em will say that she is still healing from the trauma inflicted by Ick (although she inflicted it on herself) and is not looking for a partner right now. Madison and David will announce that they are living together in David's basement and going out to party every night. Allen and Tom will say that they are going on a singles cruise to meet women this summer. Juan will be back at work.

 

 

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DrewPaul2010

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I was somewhat surprised when they were asked if they kissed since the wedding and both Michelle and Madison admitted they haven't. I understand they (the husbands) are trying to keep the spirit of the experiment to heart and believe they are working on a marriage and not merely dating. But good grief even folks dating kiss. I wouldn't endure the slings and arrows of marriage and not even receive a token act of affection.

Allen is playing a fools game to think there is anything he can do such as going to the gym, getting new clothes and now teeth straightened. I don't care if he had plastic surgery done...Madison and Michelle aren't leaving the marriage, they never checked in to that hotel to begin with.

David will clearly wind up back on his feet. He doesn't have strong feelings for Michelle...how could he? Allen is going to be hurt badly. He'll find a new good woman it just won't be Madison.

 

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kristen111

kristen111

14 hours ago, Bees52 said:

Allen is getting a  style lesson, and a  Madison-approved change of wardrobe. She's liking the new clothes, calling him "hot," but I feel she's doing this as a friend. Like, (one of her favorite words) she's getting him dressed up for someone else, not her. 

Who is Madison to make him over?  Her long fake hair down to her waist looks ridiculous at her age.  She better lay off the weights as her shoulders are not feminine at all.  They look like a man’s shoulders.  She is just not all that like she thinks she is.  Alan does not need a bar fly who has to go out at night and drink with friends.  Doesn’t he see that?  She’s changing him to leave him?  

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DrewPaul2010

DrewPaul2010

2 hours ago, Kendra143 said:

I dislike Michelle with the fire of a thousand suns. She doesn’t want David, never wanted David, and is out to make his life as miserable as possible. She’s destined for a long lonely life (yes please).

She'll have material things to keep her company.

12 minutes ago, kristen111 said:

Who is Madison to make him over?  Her long fake hair down to her waist looks ridiculous at her age.  She better lay off the weights as her shoulders are not feminine at all.  They look like a man’s shoulders.  She is just not all that like she thinks she is.  Alan does not need a bar fly who has to go out at night and drink with friends.  Doesn’t he see that?  She’s changing him to leave him?  

Maybe she thinks she'll leave him better than she found him.

From a Dylan song...

The geometry of innocence flesh on the bone
Causes Galileo's math book to get thrown
At Madison, who sits worthlessly alone
But the tears on her cheeks are from laughter.

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atomic

atomic

I wish Allen just left his teeth alone since he even admitted to Madison that he likes them. I've noticed he could use a whitening, but other than that they aren't that bad. Disgusting Madison once again said he doesn't take care of himself because he hasn't had his teeth straightened. I wish if Allen was that eager to please Madison, he would have at least gone to a real ortho for the teeth straightening, because that Smile Direct stuff he got in the mail is a scam that ended up going bankrupt for ruining so many people's teeth.

Also, David is disgusting too. That Afterparty tea that he and Madison ditched Karla to go "look for Madison's phone" for almost half an hour all but confirmed what has been going on between them. Can't wait to see Allen give David the big "F U" he deserves next week for acting chummy with Allen this whole time while on the DL bringing his wife back to the basement for late night hookups and tacos.

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Madding crowd

Madding crowd

Madison had no business demanding Allen buy different clothes and straighten his teeth since she has no interest in being with him and staying out until 2 am, probably with David. Camille is also trying to change Thomas and she is her own worst enemy because he will have enough and leave.

Karla has her faults but a husband who doesn’t believe in any type of affection would be hard for most people. She and Juan are polite to each other and do all the exercises but there is nothing there. I can’t muster up any feelings for Michelle and David; he lies and is probably cheating, she is a miserable person who has made zero effort. I didn’t get Ikechi showing up with a random piece of paper but Emem is too smart to fall for whatever that was.

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Lindz

Lindz

What's Em walking away for? She knew what it was! If you have to say I don't intend to hurt you, ISSA WRAP!!!! He's CHOOSING to be "hurt." He's a lost cause! LET IT GO!!! She seems so desperate. Ugh. It's cowardly to quit early?!! Not in this case! HE'S NOT IT!!! It'd be smart to end the torture! Let him be inconsistent, lie, & be disrespectful?!! HELL NO!!! That fool drove all the way there to have her sign a page where there's nowhere to sign?!! & asked her to sign it again after she pointed that out??? DAMN FOOL!!! He's done? So ACT done!!! Leave her alone!!! His spin about the arcade was absurd. Hope that's the last we have to see of him pre-DD!!

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princelina

princelina

3 hours ago, Retired at last said:

Every time I think my level of disdain and dislike for Michelle has reached a peak, she finds a way to make me even more disgusted.

Yeah she had the high ground for about 30 seconds, but ruined it with her own personality!

3 hours ago, DrewPaul2010 said:

I'd call him a dick and an asshole, but I don't want to insult dicks and assholes.

Haha if dicks and assholes watch this show they all feel good about themselves because Ikechi is  so much worse 😂

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Lindz

Lindz

 

So no one's gunna ask Michelle the real questions? Why not use it an excuse to officially end it? She quit day 1, so... 🙄 She was sharp with those retorts! Have A&M kissed since the wedding? HA! Does Karla text other guys when Juan rejects her? LOL!!! GOOD POINTS!!! WHAT was that shut down by David when Allen was talking??? Then Madison leaving the table??? 😕😕 HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS!!! So the others are still on David's side even though he lied & still hasn't produced ANY proof???  Apparently. I wonder if there'd be any difference if he initially told the truth that it was meant for another woman. 🤔 His excuse was reasonable & made sense, he did seem to really put it out there. It is a fair point. He should've told her & ended it instead of texting other women. She was the cause, but that doesn't permit him doing that. She should validate his feelings instead of saying he kept putting the blame back on her & is only saying that now. COME ON NOW!!! She doesn't even believe that! But her putting him on the spot after he said he knows her decision in 2 weeks, telling him to quit & be with the other woman was spot on. Lost me when he said he still wanted to be with her. WHY??? Nah. Not buying it. Like. What was supposed to happen had he sent the text to the right woman??? Progress things, logically. He was wrong saying she took too long to get the truth, no he should've told truth IMMEDIATELY!!! Nobody's buying her really trying & her infidelity trigger, she doesn't care. At this point, she just wants to know & has no intention of moving forward with the marriage... He liked her open communication, but stayed silent & let it build up. He wanted things, but didn't request them, so... I can't stand the passive, build up types. So stupid. Him shutting down any further conversation about details & then shutting down Allen is very problematic. As if he saw it going to if Madison texts other men...& texting David. Who does he think he is??? He doesn't get to just shut down conversations like that. I'd definitely push back & ask why? WHAT'S HE HIDING???

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Crashcourse

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Female Rocky didn't make him over, it was the stylist who did a good job.

Did Ikechi really think Emem would be dumb enough to sign some random "divorce" piece of paper?  He was the dumb one for even thinking it.

I could see all of the guys hanging out together (except the dumb one) after the show ends.  Allen and Tom could do the cooking, and Juan and David could make the drinks.  There will ladies out there are waiting for the invites.

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Hip-to-be-Square

Hip-to-be-Square

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Allen should buy that entire wardrobe that the stylist chose- great colors and the clothing fit him perfectly.  These outfits can be worn for so many different occasions.  Allen's old style was outlandish, disjointed and unflattering.  This new look makes him look more attractive, put together and mature. Madison still won't fuck him. but he will be much more marketable on the dating apps if he keeps the talented personal stylist and slowly builds a new and stylish wardrobe overtime.  

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Elizzikra

Elizzikra

1 minute ago, Hip-to-be-Square said:

Allen should buy that entire wardrobe that the stylist chose- great colors and the clothing fit him perfectly.  These outfits can be worn for so many different occasions.  Allen's old style was outlandish, disjointed and unflattering.  This new look makes him look more attractive, put together and mature. Madison still won't fuck him. but he will be much more marketable on the dating apps if he keeps the personal stylist and slowly builds a new and stylish wardrobe overtime. 

I hope he kept the stylist's number so he can update his wardrobe over time.

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Crashcourse

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13 hours ago, princelina said:

Not as much as we might think - she said at the beginning that the lady was "her" whatever-she-was-called, and claimed the lady gave her a great reading before, but at the end the woman said, "It's been nice meeting the two of you" 😳

I didn't mean just the woman in a slip.  I was referring to all of the tantric and card reading and whatever else she's been doing (in addition to the $13 drinks).

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Lindz

Lindz

Feeling déjà vu with the husband clothes shopping, expensive edition. My God Allen's hat was awful! He made it look like he needed help! 😂An interesting first for the show & 2 wives have done it in the same season! Plus Camille's jewelry shopping outing. They're really tryna build a man, huh??? I mean, these are simple, superficial things & Allen & David could use better looking clothes. There are just so many more important things they should be working on, like their communication.

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Lindz

Lindz

T&C are the only ones acting married. Poor communicators, but eh. Can't believe Em let that fool embarrass her like that. She should've had her own papers ready. Both are dummies. J&K are just politely coasting to DD, for what? Idk. Not marriage. Dunno what Michelle's doing. Waiting for the truth? Then what? David stays living in his alternate reality after saying he's pretty sure she'll say no on DD, for what? I really don't know. Have I ever wanted two people to quit this much? 😅 They really should be the next to quit. A&M. Idk. She's tryna make it look like she tried. Just to say she tried. Poor Allen. Why has he been sleeping on the couch??? 🤔 What else has Madison gotten mad about??? They're really playing up his impending drunken rage, so I'm suspicious. Another passive, let it build type, it seems. 🙄

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