AnimeMania January 28 Share January 28 Isolated, Xavier seeks answers on his own and cautiously turns to Dr. Gabriela Torabi. Meanwhile, Billy and Jane feel the pressure from Robinson's investigation. Premiere Date: January 28, 2025 Hulu Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/
Snazzy Daisy January 28 Share January 28 (edited) We have Cal’s dad with dementia and Xavier’s dad with Parkinson. Sinatra’s son is dead. Any more critical illnesses in store to pull our heartstrings? Manipulative storytelling. Quote “I have a message from the president. He said if something should happen to him, I should find you. He said Billy Pace is dangerous.” Yeah, Billy is sus and he should be included in the list of prime suspects from the beginning. Agent Robinson is so incompetent. But it’s too early for him to be the killer. And he doesn’t seem bright enough to be a mastermind. Quote “Xavier, you are here because I chose you. Everyone’s here because I chose them.” Gabriela Torabi is an architect of social well-being because she’s the gatekeeper. Her manipulative streak is a major red flag. 🚩 I wonder if Gabriela had something to do with Teri couldn’t make it to the plane to Paradise? She says Xavier is her wild card. Xavier being in a vulnerable state (after losing his wife) makes him easy to be exploited. Just a theory. Edited January 28 by Snazzy Daisy 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8566182
TiffanyNichelle Wednesday at 06:48 AM Share Wednesday at 06:48 AM I guess I should have watched this episode first before posting in the second episode thread. I wondered who picked the people and it turns out it was just Sinatra's therapist. The fact that it was just down to 1 person is kind of crazy. The story that Billy and Jane were turning off the security footage so they could play with the President's stuff was too silly for them to be believed. They were definitely doing something else. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8566496
HelloooKitty Wednesday at 08:45 PM Share Wednesday at 08:45 PM So there are some GREAT actors in this and I’m enjoying it but I definitely have to use some suspension of disbelief. If I think about logistics questions things start to fall apart so I just try not to. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8566905
nilyank Thursday at 07:44 AM Share Thursday at 07:44 AM On 1/29/2025 at 1:48 AM, TiffanyNichelle said: The story that Billy and Jane were turning off the security footage so they could play with the President's stuff was too silly for them to be believed. They were definitely doing something else. Yeah I thought it was sex as they were kissing earlier. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8567795
bilgistic Thursday at 01:40 PM Share Thursday at 01:40 PM (edited) 16 hours ago, HelloooKitty said: So there are some GREAT actors in this and I’m enjoying it but I definitely have to use some suspension of disbelief. If I think about logistics questions things start to fall apart so I just try not to. I can't stop thinking about how the town "works", and it does my head in. There were plastic containers in the grocery store. Do they take them back and refill them? Do they grow cotton to harvest and weave to make more clothes? They established that dairy is plant based when they said the cheese on the cheese fries is nut cheese, but how do they get water for processing nuts into "dairy"? Do they have a power plant and water processing plant? Are the blue-collar workers paid living wages? Do they even use money in the town? Why do they want more babies to be born when there has to be finite resources? I CAN'T STOP THINKING! Edited Thursday at 01:42 PM by bilgistic 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8567875
SeanBug Thursday at 02:36 PM Share Thursday at 02:36 PM I've decided not to think about the logistics of the town too much. I'm assuming we're going to find out what Sinatra's role in the gov't is, and how she got so much power, and what her actual position is. Is this a riff on Musk? How does she get to boss everyone around like this? Marsden is doing a great job playing Cal as kind of a dick, but a charming one nonetheless. And Sterling K Brown is great. I can't believe they're exposing the other agent as a bad guy so quickly. Is it a misdirect? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8567903
bigmag Friday at 04:52 PM Share Friday at 04:52 PM I know the ducks are not real, but do they have any animals? They were having eggs (and egg whites for Xavier) for breakfast. Do they have chickens or was that some sort of egg-subsitute (yuck to all I've tried)? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8568780
marinw Saturday at 12:13 AM Share Saturday at 12:13 AM (edited) On 1/30/2025 at 9:40 AM, bilgistic said: I can't stop thinking about how the town "works" The President is more like a mayor. If I had to live in a bunker, this is one of the better ones! Of course we are only three years in, at some point there could be a rebellion or pandemic or something. Robinson mentioned something suggesting that they will be down there for at least a Century. So they need babies, but maybe whatever caused the End Of The World caused a fertility crises? As for the logistics, what is up with the SUV sized cars? They must all be electric because how would they extract and refine gas? They cars must be limited to the security staff. Everyone else must be walking. Traffic congestion doesn’t seem to be a problem. What is powering the bunker? A huge nuclear reactor? Edited Saturday at 01:59 AM by marinw 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8569136
marinw Saturday at 12:25 AM Share Saturday at 12:25 AM Well I think we’ve ruled out suicide. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8569142
SoMuchTV Saturday at 01:18 AM Share Saturday at 01:18 AM 59 minutes ago, marinw said: As for the logistics, what is up with the SUV sized cars? They must all be electric because how would they extract and refine gas? They cars must be limited to the security staff. Everyone else must be walking. Traffic congestion doesn’t seem to be a problem. What is powering the bunker? A huge nuclear reactor? Well, it looked like they had all the classic great works of art lining the walls of the boardroom, so maybe they also gathered up all the strategic petroleum reserves and put them in a bunker under the bunker? Oh and they apparently have a bus system, to deliver the domestic workers. Don’t want to change things too much. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8569279
TiffanyNichelle Saturday at 01:34 AM Share Saturday at 01:34 AM 14 minutes ago, SoMuchTV said: Well, it looked like they had all the classic great works of art lining the walls of the boardroom, so maybe they also gathered up all the strategic petroleum reserves and put them in a bunker under the bunker? I noticed the art in the boardroom and also at Sinatra's house. I wonder when they snatched those up. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8569351
marinw Saturday at 01:43 AM Share Saturday at 01:43 AM (edited) 15 hours ago, SoMuchTV said: Well, it looked like they had all the classic great works of art lining the walls of the boardroom I can’t decide if those are originals or reproductions. 15 hours ago, SoMuchTV said: Don’t want to change things too much. They don’t want a new world, they are desperately clinging to an idealized facsimile of an America which is supposedly gone. I say supposedly since whatever caused the end of the World is so Vague things on the surface could be fine. Edited Saturday at 04:58 PM by marinw Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8569390
Broderbits Saturday at 04:48 PM Share Saturday at 04:48 PM 14 hours ago, marinw said: I can’t decide if those are originals or reproductions. They looked like fairly bad reproductions, although I'm sure the mega-rich looted the world's great museums before going underground. I would love to see an analysis of the water; there must be some dosing of heavy tranquilizers and mood stabilizers going on for these people to seem so happy and care-free, and to keep them controllable. Just imagine the survivor guilt! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8569761
marinw Saturday at 04:55 PM Share Saturday at 04:55 PM (edited) 10 minutes ago, Broderbits said: there must be some dosing of heavy tranquilizers and mood stabilizers going on for these people to seem so happy and care-free, and to keep them controllable I hadn’t thought of that, but drugging the populace would make sense. See also: Brave New World and THX 1138 Edited Saturday at 04:59 PM by marinw Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8569770
SoMuchTV Saturday at 06:36 PM Share Saturday at 06:36 PM 17 hours ago, TiffanyNichelle said: I noticed the art in the boardroom and also at Sinatra's house. I wonder when they snatched those up. 16 hours ago, marinw said: I can’t decide if those are originals or reproductions. 1 hour ago, Broderbits said: They looked like fairly bad reproductions, although I'm sure the mega-rich looted the world's great museums before going underground. You know, I just assumed they were the originals and the organizers of all this went and scooped them up when it was obvious the world was ending, but now that I think more about it, I'm not sure how that would have worked. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8569839
Broderbits Saturday at 08:34 PM Share Saturday at 08:34 PM 3 hours ago, Broderbits said: They looked like fairly bad reproductions, although I'm sure the mega-rich looted the world's great museums before going underground. More info to support my opinion that they are reproductions: one of the paintings shown was Gainsborough's Blue Boy, which is actually about 70 inches tall. The version on that wall was no where near that size. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8569923
Paws Sunday at 01:09 AM Share Sunday at 01:09 AM It’s funny that in the beginning of episode 1 I thought that the area Xavier lives in looked like a Disnified version of the US, like Main Street USA or the Golden Oak community just outside the gates of Disney. Turns out I’m not that far off! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8570113
Sundazed Sunday at 08:50 AM Share Sunday at 08:50 AM 16 hours ago, Broderbits said: there must be some dosing of heavy tranquilizers and mood stabilizers going on for these people to seem so happy and care-free, and to keep them controllable. It's probably in the cheese fries. 2 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8570218
Haleth Sunday at 12:15 PM Share Sunday at 12:15 PM Is this how the world of Silo began? Or Fallout? I’m watching too many post apocalyptic shows. (Wonder why? Heh.) Dr Gabby was standing way too close to Xavier while she was speaking. It creeped me out. I guess she accomplished her goal of seducing him so she could pass along the message. Why does Xav trust her so implicitly? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8570244
Lilac2000 23 hours ago Share 23 hours ago On 1/30/2025 at 2:44 AM, nilyank said: Yeah I thought it was sex as they were kissing earlier. If Billy is involved--he and Jane could have been messing around with the President's stuff some of the time to explain the cameras being shut down and then he could have been shutting the cameras down other times when Jane wasn't there and doing criminal stuff and no one would question it after he and Jane were "found out". I don't think Jane was on duty the night of the murder (unless I'm misremembering) but the cameras still got shut down. And maybe Jane is involved too and helping Billy cover. Just a theory! It seems too early, as others have said, for it to be Billy acting alone. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8570894
Sandman 22 hours ago Share 22 hours ago On 1/31/2025 at 7:13 PM, marinw said: What is powering the bunker? A huge nuclear reactor? Is it too soon to bust out the "A wizard did it?" 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8571009
marinw 12 hours ago Share 12 hours ago 10 hours ago, Sandman said: On 1/31/2025 at 8:13 PM, marinw said: What is powering the bunker? A huge nuclear reactor? Is it too soon to bust out the "A wizard did it?" It would be cool if if the artificial sun was literally an artificial sun, as in a cold fusion reactor, because why not? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151608-s01e03-the-architect-of-social-well-being/#findComment-8571167
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