patty1h February 25 Share February 25 (edited) Like I said before, this show is not good for my nitpick tendencies. Watching Baylen boohoo about Colin being missing during the couch delivery did not evoke sympathy, it made me roll my eyes. IMO the whole argument felt like a producers desperate attempt to create some drama in a pretty lackluster show... get those kids fighting right after they move in - trouble in paradise! Also, I didn't agree with that friend (or was it her sister?) telling Baylen that she needs to make sure that Colin knows he did wrong by not being available. That was aggressive. Then watching her dadda come and hug his widdle princess like she's a two year old with a booboo. He's not helping her mature at all. Yeesh. Edited February 25 by patty1h 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8590872
Salacious Kitty February 25 Share February 25 I wonder when the babying of Baylen began? After her diagnosis, or has it always been that way? Her parents otherwise seem to be pretty hands off, so I tend to think this behavior began when she was diagnosed. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8590909
BAForever February 26 Share February 26 Show does remind me a bit of Jazz in that both parents supported their kids (Jazz and Baylen) so much that the other sibs in the family might have been affected adversely in terms of needed parent attention. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8591066
overtherainbow February 26 Share February 26 Aww, I think the decor is cute. It's a little tacky and a bit much but not so different to how I would want to decorate my dorm/apartment at 21. I don't think it matters to Colin as long as he has his game area. But boy, their apartment is such a dream. Talk about gorgeous. Great location, too. No normal 20 something that isn't a social media sensation and a show could afford. I agree that the parents don't seem easily satisfied. The sister too, for that matter. I think Colin is a pretty sweet guy and seems patient enough. I think at a certain point the protectiveness becomes too much. The sister needs to chill a little. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8591138
patty1h February 26 Share February 26 I realize I've been hard on the parents about their interactions with Baylen, and after some thinking, I wondered... maybe something pretty devastating happened to her that puts them so on edge all the time. Speculation: She got badly hurt when she was younger because of TS, maybe ended up in the hospital, a parents worst nightmare. That could've put them on hyper alert to her actions and feelings. Or they could just be velcro parents. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8591932
Salacious Kitty February 26 Share February 26 She wasn't diagnosed until she was 18. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8591936
Jst2Wld February 27 Share February 27 19 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said: She wasn't diagnosed until she was 18. I wonder what behavior/symptoms she was showing and what exactly did her doctors/parents think was going on with her? Maybe this was mentioned in one of the episodes but I haven't seen all (3?) of them. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8593085
SilverLake0315 February 27 Share February 27 34 minutes ago, Jst2Wld said: Maybe this was mentioned in one of the episodes but I haven't seen all (3?) of them. This week was the 7th episode Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8593111
Salacious Kitty February 27 Share February 27 38 minutes ago, Jst2Wld said: I wonder what behavior/symptoms she was showing and what exactly did her doctors/parents think was going on with her? Maybe this was mentioned in one of the episodes but I haven't seen all (3?) of them. They probably had a lot of exposition in the first episode, which I missed. I assume all that was covered then I will have to wait until they do a marathon, I guess. All I know for sure is her diagnosis was late (later than most? I don't know). 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8593116
auntjess February 27 Share February 27 So they're moving into what must be a very expensive apartment, and I guess they decided the huge expanses of glass aren't a deal breaker even though she freaks out at storms. What do Colin and Baylen do to be able to afford this apartment? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8593136
Salacious Kitty February 27 Share February 27 Baylen just posted an Insta story about TS. It said symptoms generally appear between ages 5-7. Maybe she was some anomaly? Or her parents just thought she was quirky? I guess I have to watch that first episode. 🤷 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8593144
SunnyBeBe February 28 Share February 28 (edited) I may watch the episode about her history again. We have Primetime On Demand on TLC, so I think it’s available. I suspect the suspicion of her symptoms and the age she suffered substantially, was suspect. That’s why diagnosis was difficult. Eventually, she ended up at the Mayo Clinic. At least that’s what I have read. I have no reason to doubt it. I doubt they would publicly say she she was diagnosed by Mayo if she wasn’t. When they were at the Tourette’s Convention, were there any other adults who had the degree of vocal tics that Baylen did? It is a neurological condition, but I still wonder how the tics would go if they brought her no attention. And, as far as her OCD and Anxiety…..what is she doing to address them. Those things are very debilitating too. Working on those issues would be a priority if I were to be her caregiver. Edited February 28 by SunnyBeBe 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8593580
Shrek March 1 Share March 1 On 2/27/2025 at 11:48 AM, auntjess said: So they're moving into what must be a very expensive apartment, and I guess they decided the huge expanses of glass aren't a deal breaker even though she freaks out at storms. What do Colin and Baylen do to be able to afford this apartment? She just does her social media, but he is (I think) in the air force or one of the other services. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8594835
Ottis March 3 Share March 3 Big black mark for Colin. Not on his effort to make his girlfriend laugh on her birthday, but on the way he reacted to her reaction. Dude, man up. You screwed up. It isn't about what *you* thought you were trying to do. You disappeared, and then got mad when your girlfriend, who just moved in with you, was upset. You should have immediately apologized. Not a good sign. And now he wants to propose right on the heels of moving in? Colin seems to be caught up in his own idea of relationship bliss, and not their combined welfare. I love Braylon's sister. She has a good head on her shoulders. I don't understand how their lives work, if Colin is awaiting basically a transfer and yet they rented an apartment and bought a lot of stuff for it. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8597027
kathyk2 March 3 Share March 3 1 hour ago, Ottis said: Big black mark for Colin. Not on his effort to make his girlfriend laugh on her birthday, but on the way he reacted to her reaction. Dude, man up. You screwed up. It isn't about what *you* thought you were trying to do. You disappeared, and then got mad when your girlfriend, who just moved in with you, was upset. You should have immediately apologized. Not a good sign. And now he wants to propose right on the heels of moving in? Colin seems to be caught up in his own idea of relationship bliss, and not their combined welfare. I love Braylon's sister. She has a good head on her shoulders. I don't understand how their lives work, if Colin is awaiting basically a transfer and yet they rented an apartment and bought a lot of stuff for it. Exactly moving is stressful even if you aren't disabled. Baylen would have been raked over the coals if she had done the same thing. I think TLC is paying for the apartment so they can film there. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8597109
Madding crowd March 3 Share March 3 Colin has been in the Air Force for years, he knows how to take care of himself without Baylen’s help. Most adults don’t expect their partner to spend every minute with them, even on their birthday. Colin missed a couch delivery while trying to do something funny to make Baylen laugh and perhaps be less stressed. He didn’t miss the birth of their child or an important hospital appointment. I don’t know why anyone would rake Baylen over the coals if she left Colin to handle a couch delivery; he will probably handle most things like that. 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8597159
Ottis March 4 Share March 4 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Madding crowd said: Colin has been in the Air Force for years, he knows how to take care of himself without Baylen’s help. Not sure what this has to do with anything? Colin clearly "took care of himself" by disappearing to create his joke, I guess. 21 minutes ago, Madding crowd said: Most adults don’t expect their partner to spend every minute with them, even on their birthday. The whole point of the show is that Baylen isn't "most adults." And she didn't expect Colin there every minute, just for the couch delivery and then to head to the party. 21 minutes ago, Madding crowd said: Colin missed a couch delivery while trying to do something funny to make Baylen laugh and perhaps be less stressed. He didn’t miss the birth of their child or an important hospital appointment. As the show has emphasized in every episode, Baylen moving out on her own, away from the people who have cared for her her whole life, into a new location and apartment, is a giant step for her. Leaving her alone for a couch delivery is not the point. The point is that while she is working hard to deal with all of those changes, on her birthday, with a party planned that will introduce her and his parents, Colin disappeared. And the reason he disappeared wasn't some kind of military training issue (which I assumed), it was a lame joke. It's the kind of decision a teen boy makes, getting caught up in "this will be sooo great!" while ignoring the needs of others. But as I noted before, OK, bad judgment. It happens. But the way Colin reacted when Baylen was upset, and then later tells Sami that he couldn't have reacted any better ... that's immature and shows he isn't figuring this out. And THEN he wants to marry her. He needs to grow up fast. Edited March 4 by Ottis 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8597178
Madding crowd March 4 Share March 4 The reason I brought up Colin taking care of himself for years is you said if Baylen had left him alone to take care of a couch delivery she would be raked over the coals and I’m quite sure Colin wouldn’t care as he probably does a lot of things without her. Baylen is 22 years old and needs to be able to handle things alone sometimes. Colin works full time and cannot be with her every second. If she cannot be alone she needs a caregiver or her parents need a power of attorney so they can force her to live with them. Colin does a lot for her but will not be able to be with her 24 hours a day . 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8597209
kathyk2 March 4 Share March 4 3 minutes ago, Madding crowd said: The reason I brought up Colin taking care of himself for years is you said if Baylen had left him alone to take care of a couch delivery she would be raked over the coals and I’m quite sure Colin wouldn’t care as he probably does a lot of things without her. Baylen is 22 years old and needs to be able to handle things alone sometimes. Colin works full time and cannot be with her every second. If she cannot be alone she needs a caregiver or her parents need a power of attorney so they can force her to live with them. Colin does a lot for her but will not be able to be with her 24 hours a day . Disability isn't a choice between complete independence or complete dependence. I've been disabled since birth and moving out of out my parent's home was stressful. If Baylen moves again she'll me more prepared. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8597241
Madding crowd March 4 Share March 4 I understand, I’m disabled myself. Baylen will learn as she goes along. I follow her on Instagram and she seems to be doing fine. I don’t agree Colin is bad for her though, they love each other and will help each other. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8597330
jcbrown March 4 Share March 4 That was some patriarchal infantilizing bullshit. I despise the antiquated custom of asking permission to marry a woman. It strikes me as ridiculous that the whole family has to orchestrate the "perfect proposal." It was like watching people plan a kid's party. The codependence of Baylen and her parents is simply breathtaking. Why didn't they let her take the lead at her own doctor's appointment? She is used to being treated like a child so that is how she behaves. 4 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8597670
xls March 4 Share March 4 (edited) The boy sitting his ass on the kitchen counter just NO! NASTY! Don't know if it was a brother or boyfriend of the sister because I could not focus on the conversation. Edited March 4 by xls 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8597708
Salacious Kitty March 4 Share March 4 1 hour ago, jcbrown said: That was some patriarchal infantilizing bullshit. I despise the antiquated custom of asking permission to marry a woman. It strikes me as ridiculous that the whole family has to orchestrate the "perfect proposal." It was like watching people plan a kid's party. The codependence of Baylen and her parents is simply breathtaking. Why didn't they let her take the lead at her own doctor's appointment? She is used to being treated like a child so that is how she behaves. I bet that Colin wants his proposal to be social media perfect, like those of his friends (probably). Dad telling him to keep it simple was actually good advice. But yeah, going to Dad at all, yuck. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8597736
Ottis March 4 Share March 4 18 hours ago, Madding crowd said: The reason I brought up Colin taking care of himself for years is you said if Baylen had left him alone to take care of a couch delivery she would be raked over the coals I didn't say this, maybe another poster did? 18 hours ago, Madding crowd said: Baylen is 22 years old and needs to be able to handle things alone sometimes. Colin works full time and cannot be with her every second. If she cannot be alone she needs a caregiver or her parents need a power of attorney so they can force her to live with them. Colin does a lot for her but will not be able to be with her 24 hours a day . You are making the same point again, and also, this is hyperbole, Baylen never said she needed someone 24/7. It was a specific need (couch delivery, in new apartment when Baylen has moved out of her home for the first time in her life) on a specific, special day (her birthday, where her and his parents were to meet for the first time). Everyone, including Colin, knew Baylen would be extra stressed (heck, pretty much anyone would in her situation). Colin had to choose ... be there for my gf who I know will be stressed out and therefore will likely need additional support? Or go play dress up for a joke? Easy choice, IMO, and he made the wrong one. 2 hours ago, jcbrown said: That was some patriarchal infantilizing bullshit. I despise the antiquated custom of asking permission to marry a woman. Enh, I view that the same way as I view Colin's parents suddenly asking Colin and Baylen to read scripture. Some people do things differently and while I might not do that, it's not a big deal. It's actual a cagey move by Colin, because he can find out, before he proposes, where Baylen's parents stand. I don't think that's why he did it, though. He was just being traditional, as he was brought up. 2 hours ago, jcbrown said: It strikes me as ridiculous that the whole family has to orchestrate the "perfect proposal." It was like watching people plan a kid's party. It's a TV show. Every "event" on these shows is a big production, to manufacture drama. I don't know whether anyone involved actually wanted it to happen, or to be a production, but they have to make good TV. 2 hours ago, jcbrown said: The codependence of Baylen and her parents is simply breathtaking. Why didn't they let her take the lead at her own doctor's appointment? She is used to being treated like a child so that is how she behaves. There is some truth to this. I do think they should give her more room to lead. But they are all adjusting to this new stage of her life, and honestly, with her increased stress causing more tics, they all probably think having the parents ask questions is just more efficient. She's really not that old, IMO, and asking doctors questions can be tough for anyone. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8597798
overtherainbow March 5 Share March 5 6 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said: I bet that Colin wants his proposal to be social media perfect, like those of his friends (probably). Dad telling him to keep it simple was actually good advice. But yeah, going to Dad at all, yuck. I cringed when he started talking about how he wants him to give a little speech. Just make it natural dude! It sounds like he wants it to be very orchestrated and very made for TV. Honestly, good on the dad for making the point that it should be his (Colin's) moment with her and he has his own memories with her. I get her dad is huge in her life but it's not the dad who's the one proposing. I think there is genuine love and I'm glad they have each other but I can't help but question if this whole proposal was (probably) rushed because they were filming a TV show. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8598037
kathyk2 March 5 Share March 5 I thought there was nothing wrong with the way Julie acted at the doctor's office. Baylen was having a tic attack and couldn't speak. Baylen asked the doctor questions when she recovered. I was glad to see the doctor recommend medication rather than surgery for her. Recovering from an operation can be difficult and Baylen has had enough stress this year. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8598588
Salacious Kitty March 5 Share March 5 I thought the recommendation to treat the OCD & ADHD first was good. That would probably relieve some stress for Baylen, and reduce the severity of the tics. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8598643
swankie March 6 Share March 6 I'm sorry but I can't stand hearing Colin speak. Sometimes he sounds like he's talking under water. It just bugs me. 😖 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8599647
SunnyBeBe March 8 Share March 8 I have a couple of opinions on the proposal. First, regarding any couple, I detest public marriage proposals. Always a pet peeve of mine. Just my personal taste. To me that’s private and a special time for the two. Doing it at a ballgame, middle of restaurant, at large gathering screams insecurity. Anyway, others feel differently. And, if there is money involved, I get how that may be a motivation to bring on the drama. Since I realize the realty (wink, wink) show needs content, I understand a proposal is good content. But, snark is good, no? Lol So, I won’t judge the decision too harshly. I would be embarrassed of a grown man asking a father of a grown woman about proposing. Just yuck. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8601548
patty1h March 9 Share March 9 11 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said: I would be embarrassed of a grown man asking a father of a grown woman about proposing. Just yuck. That is an outdated move to ask for a woman's hand from her dad, but it could that be Colin's religious upbringing - maybe he has that old school belief that a girl belongs to her father until she is married and he is following "tradition". 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8601949
BAForever March 9 Share March 9 11 minutes ago, patty1h said: That is an outdated move to ask for a woman's hand from her dad, but it could that be Colin's religious upbringing - maybe he has that old school belief that a girl belongs to her father until she is married and he is following tradition. If people choose this custom, it's their choice, I much prefer the idea of asking for a blessing from future in-laws. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8601966
SunnyBeBe March 11 Share March 11 I thought Colin’s words were very nice. I’m surprised he was in such a horrible place until he met her. Wonder what was going on. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8604011
Ottis March 11 Share March 11 So many red flags this episode. Before getting to that, I fully believe much of this was manufactured drama for TLC. Also, it's likely Colin's relo assignment was known long before much of the events of this season, which explains why they rented an apartment and then fully decorated it while supposedly they might have to move in six months. And I'm sure Colin's event-planning people always had an indoor backup, it was just a matter of switching to it. That said: - Whether they knew the relo assignment or not, what's the rush to get engaged? Especially if they knew Colin was staying put, which I believe they did. - Then once they got engaged, they immediately started talking about a wedding. Notice how no one else wanted to participate in that conversation? Way too fast. - Colin says Baylen somehow saved him? That is not a good sign. Is he overly focused on her because he views her as his savior, and that's driving him to "capture" her ASAP? When what is needed is exactly the opposite, a solid partner for Baylen who can help her transition to a more independent life, on a timeline that works for her and also for him. - Meanwhile, it's not funny that she takes the one object he seems to value (the signed rock) and banishes it to the pee balcony. She decorated that whole place, and should have made a spot for his item, too. They are each too emotionally immature for what they are insisting will happen. Also, why did Colin's parents fly from Roanoke to Ocean City? It's a 6.5 hour drive. That's a wash at best, and if there was a connection, even worse. Sammi once again is the voice of reason. On 3/8/2025 at 7:55 AM, SunnyBeBe said: I would be embarrassed of a grown man asking a father of a grown woman about proposing. Just yuck. That was covered earlier in this thread. It's old-fashioned, so are Colin's parents, so not inconsistent. In some ways it lets Colin gauge where Baylen's parents stand before he asks (not that it would have dissuaded him). And given Baylen's unique challenges, asking in advance might even prompt a healthy conversation (it didn't, but it could have). 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8604412
overtherainbow March 11 Share March 11 The proposal was actually really cute and not nearly as over the top as I thought it would be. It was nice to hear how Baylen was as much there for Colin as he has been for her so their relationship hasn't just been as codependent as they've implied. Sammi comes off really strong. She's like a mini version of their dad. Very opinionated on her sister's life. She did soften a little during the actual engagement event though, which was nice. I'm sensing the glass child syndrome is strong there. Without this big family and some role playing as the villain I don't think there would be much content to work with other than the comedic timing of some of Baylen's tics. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8604467
SunnyBeBe March 17 Share March 17 I find it interesting how most of her vocal tics are about certain body parts. Not much about ears, toes or feet, but a lot about penises and vaginas. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8609869
Salacious Kitty March 17 Share March 17 The Joe Biden tics were mostly hilarious. I wonder where she gets her news? 😂 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8609889
SunnyBeBe March 18 Share March 18 And, bald men……. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8610395
xls March 18 Share March 18 Is that a trach scar on her sister's neck? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8610398
SunnyBeBe March 18 Share March 18 35 minutes ago, xls said: Is that a trach scar on her sister's neck? Appears like it. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8610403
Lone Wolf March 19 Share March 19 (edited) Just dropping in to say that after Baylen "accepted" Colin's proposal (as if it all wasn't a foregone conclusion), the amount of applause and cheers we heard was more than that small group would have generated. I know it's Reality TV and everything that goes with the genre, but (unless it was supposed to be a wink-and-a-nudge to us viewers, like cutting to fireworks exploding would've been) it irks me when things like this and continuity errors happen. It's lazy editing, in this case to make the event seem more exciting, and (to me) a little insulting to the audience. That said, per MST3K it's just a show, I should really just relax. Also, it feels like the writers are having a hard time figuring out what to do with Baylen's brothers. Sammi seems to be doing the more-down-to-earth, slightly cynical sis thing (taking Colin to task over the couch delivery, saying the ring is like Baylen and then describing it as gaudy), but all the brothers seem to be doing is wrestling on the furniture, playing sports in the yard, and cracking wise during the confessionals. Edited March 19 by Lone Wolf 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151601-baylen-out-loud-all-episodes/page/2/#findComment-8611107
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