S9.E15: Old Rumors, Die Hard

[ZettaK]

The ladies return from their Panama trip; Ashley prepares for her Drag King event; Stacey works to finalize her divorce while fielding requests from T.J.

First aired on 1/19/2025.

Edited Yest. at 01:00 AM by ZettaK

[drivethroo]

I would be here for a Gordon and Ray reality show. 2 Old Black Men just having lunch and conversation at the Mall.

[Steph J]

I'd like to see an episode that isn't about Mia, please. We've known she was a bullshit artist since her first season claims of being a stripper who wore ballgowns and didn't take her clothes off.

[For Cereals]

Stacey…girl. Get thee an attorney and EVERYTHING in writing.  Oh, and drop TJ.

[ZettaK]

Ashley can't sing. 

I like her red hair in the confessionals. 

The women were throwing shade about Karen being on Ozempic and having fatigue, losing weight etc. because of it, and not because of stress. I'm sure she was stressed due to the seriousness of her DUI case, as well. Also, not everybody who is pre diabetic is, or should be on Ozempic. 

Stacey is naive if she thinks that her soon to be ex husband will always support their daughter financially (a new wife might influence him into being less generous). This should be a term in a divorce settlement.

Mia lied on the show although she knew Jeremiah was Gordon's kid. And there are no divorce proceedings, so this is another lie.

ETA: Gordon would never give full custody to Mia. He would use Mia's cheating, and her current behavior (she claimed on tv that Jeremiah could be Inc's son, her statements about Gordon's behavior when she was absent were contradictory, she left her kids with Inc, etc.) against her in a custody case. 

Edited 19 hours ago by ZettaK
Grammar, etc.

[dancingdreamer]

I liked seeing  G and Ray, just talking  about life, enjoying  their  food..

Karen  is way too thin, I doubt  she's  eating  very much though.

Mia is full of bullcrap, I just can't  with her 

Stacey, oh Stacey,  listen to your lawyer,  she was trying  to steer you in the right direction, get everything  in writing, everything! Oh, and drop TJ on his head,  he's  not your key to happiness. 

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[Vanderboom]

Man, I'm so floored by Stacy's lack of life skills, but I'm glad her lawyer was both straightforward and tactful about Stacy's expectations for child support. No matter how amicable the divorce, you need to get financial arrangements set down in writing. How old is she?

 

7 hours ago, Steph J said:

I'd like to see an episode that isn't about Mia, please. We've known she was a bullshit artist since her first season claims of being a stripper who wore ballgowns and didn't take her clothes off.

Wasn't there a story about how Mia was in a stronger financial situation when she met Gordon "because of an inheritance"? 🙄

[Keywestclubkid]

Staci is a idiot .. if a lawyer is telling you to get something in writing get it IN writing .. jebus this is why you are paying them to represent you 

 

Mia is trash trying to paint herself as a "modern" housewife .. GIRL paint that pig any color you want you still a messy hoe who is a lying liar who lies

[BloggerAloud]

The continuing problem with Mia being the center of attention/drama is that there are no stakes. She's never been trustworthy. She's been lying since she came on this show. So it feels like Groundhog's Day every time Mia lies, then she gets called out, wash rinse and repeat.

[Baltimore Betty]

5 hours ago, Vanderboom said:

Man, I'm so floored by Stacy's lack of life skills, but I'm glad her lawyer was both straightforward and tactful about Stacy's expectations for child support. No matter how amicable the divorce, you need to get financial arrangements set down in writing. How old is she?

 

Wasn't there a story about how Mia was in a stronger financial situation when she met Gordon "because of an inheritance"? 🙄

I find that so interesting since she said she was in the foster system, was neglected, had to fight for everything she got...so where were those most benevolent grandparents when she was a child, like they would leave her money but ignore her when she really needed help being in a stable home? The math is not mathing!

That scene with Stacey and The Virgin TJ was drivel, I bet he puts that on his sizzle reel, he laughs, he cries he can do it all Mr. Director...hire that guy! Blech.

He tells Stacey that he wants to be public about their relationship, um you are on camera being filmed for TV, that seems pretty public to me even for a fake relationship.

 

[Baltimore Betty]

Ashley is going to perform her drag at a club, the HW's show up to support her lame ass stunt, K shows up in the daylight hours in tiny shorts, I am cringing for her and thinking they have Lysol the bar stool when she leaves.

Mia and Jac show up in union suits, not a good look.

Pre diabetic, I would think the doctor would tell you to eat differently and see if your numbers come down, I don't think the doctor would put her on meds first thing, would that happen?

 

 

[dosodog]

My doctor diagnosed me as pre-diabetic and wanted to put me on medication immediately. I pleaded with her to give me 1 year to change my diet and exercise. She begrudgingly said yes. I managed to do it.

Some doctors are prescription happy...

[Chatty Cake]

Ray and Gordon were the best part of the episode.

Stacey, get everything done legally. People change. TJ is such an odd dude. 

Karen said diabetes runs in her family so she is pre diabetic. She didn’t say whether or not her bloodwork showed it. Kind of like telling Ray that blue eyes run in her family.

[lasu]

10 minutes ago, Chatty Cake said:

Kind of like telling Ray that blue eyes run in her family.

Um...this was the real tea of the episode!!  Ray just casually dropping that maybe Karen wasn't 100% that Ravyn was his kid!!  I'm not on Mia's side, but I wish G had run back and told her that so that when Karen came at her, she could have dropped that bomb back. It doesn't seem like anyone knew about it until this aired...which makes me wonder if the DUI is the only thing Karen would rather walk away from the show than have to answer for.

Ray was messy as shit!  Not only did he drop that tea, but then he totally screwed up the story he told Karen.  G said he early on went to Atlanta to get his kids when they were around Inc, not that the Panama situation had anything to do with Inc!  Ray just totally put that part in there.  All G said was that there were decisions he didn't agree with, which is still weird!  Also, G and Mia live in the same building, right?  So when G said he "had" the kids 25 out of 30 days, what exactly did he mean?  Did they spend whole days and nights at his place?Mia absolutely is a known liar, but I'm not trusting G here either. Those poor kids.

TJ can suck it.  How can you keep a straight face to say, "I think you are keeping me a secret," when there are CAMERAS RIGHT THERE.  It's a weird fucking flex that he wants her to tell her husband. Why is that important?  Not a fan, but I was also a little freaked out that I found TJ about a million times hotter when he cried and got that stupid clown grin off his face.

Isn't the husband European wealthy? I wonder if Arabella has access (or will) to a family trust that she can't be cut off from.  I think the husband is the kind of wealthy where you don't have to worry about a second wife or more kids.  And you can't sign away your rights to child support forever.  You can waive it for now, but if things change, you can go after it later.  It would be more difficult though.

And rounding out the douchy men on this show, Kierna should RUNNNNNNN.  This guy is not the one.  He expects her to stay home and cook, and doesn't even think she should get any say in what her ACTUAL FUCKING NAME IS!!!  If he feels matching names are so damn important, "Greg Stewart" sounds just fine to me. I was already side-eyeing him for his for-profit business "helping" others, and now I'm all the way done.

[amarante]

15 minutes ago, lasu said:

 

Isn't the husband European wealthy? I wonder if Arabella has access (or will) to a family trust that she can't be cut off from.  I think the husband is the kind of wealthy where you don't have to worry about a second wife or more kids.  And you can't sign away your rights to child support forever.  You can waive it for now, but if things change, you can go after it later.  It would be more difficult though.

 

Prefacing this by saying that she is a fool not to realize that you need to document the terms of the financials and child custody even if your divorce is the friendliest.

She also seems extremely confused as there is no reason for her to get alimony as that is generally a thing of the past. She would be entitled to a lump sum based on finances during the marriage. 

Assuming there is significant wealth, Arabella should be set up with a non-revocable Trust so that there is no ability to have her cut off later.

I do agree that when there is really significant wealth - more than enough for everyone and their grandchildren, people are generally "fair" to their biological children and even grandchildren. Squabbles are when there really aren't the kinds of "unlimited" resources so one person getting more means another would be getting significantly less.

I don't know if her ex has that kind of wealth. If he does come for "old money" or had lots of money when married it seems very odd that there was no pre-nup.

[Keywestclubkid]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

 

He tells Stacey that he wants to be public about their relationship, um you are on camera being filmed for TV, that seems pretty public to me even for a fake relationship.

 

this part .. im like how much more public can it get?? ... you're being filmed ... there will be press releases .. like ... thats telling the world .. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Keywestclubkid

[heatherchandler]

1 hour ago, dosodog said:

My doctor diagnosed me as pre-diabetic and wanted to put me on medication immediately. I pleaded with her to give me 1 year to change my diet and exercise. She begrudgingly said yes. I managed to do it.

Some doctors are prescription happy...

Some patients are happy to hear “pre-diabetes” just so they can get a prescription, and get it insured.

[lasu]

35 minutes ago, amarante said:

I don't know if her ex has that kind of wealth. If he does come for "old money" or had lots of money when married it seems very odd that there was no pre-nup.

To be clear, I have no idea either.  But, if he does come from family wealth, it could ALL be in a trust.  When my mom married my step-father, she didn't have to sign anything b/c he didn't have personal wealth, he "only" had access to a family trust and there were already ironclad rules about who gets what in what circumstances.  If they had divorced, my mom would have gotten nothing, but as his widow, she was entitled to a number of years of support from the trust.

[albarino]

4 hours ago, lasu said:

4 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Kind of like telling Ray that blue eyes run in her family.

Um...this was the real tea of the episode!!  Ray just casually dropping that maybe Karen wasn't 100% that Ravyn was his kid!! 

I'm with you both on that!  

I'm sort of wondering out loud if being on Ozempic (or generic) somehow magnifies the effect of alcohol on the system?  I haven't heard about it one way or another WRT Karen's DUI.

Kind of a meh episode other than perhaps a PSA to hire and establish relationships with lawyers regarding divorces and wills.....

Oh, and DUIs......

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[drivethroo]

18 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Stacey is naive if she thinks that her soon to be ex husband will always support their daughter financially (a new wife might influence him into being less generous). This should be a term in a divorce settlement.

He will because he'll take her to court to get full custody of the child and go back to Germany. Stacey will be allowed to have the child during the summers.  Thats just my opinion.

4 hours ago, lasu said:

Um...this was the real tea of the episode!!  Ray just casually dropping that maybe Karen wasn't 100% that Ravyn was his kid!!

Karen fed Ray that little story to cover up for the fact of why a baby Rayvin could come out looking like Robyn or Gizelle.

And while I don't doubt blue and gray eyes runs in Karen's family, unless Ray also had the blue/gray eye gene, Rayvin would come out with the same dark brown eyes Karen & Ray have. 

The unspoken secret is Karen probably wishes Rayvin came out looking like Robyn or Gizelle instead of inheriting Ray's coloring.

4 hours ago, lasu said:

And rounding out the douchy men on this show, Kierna should RUNNNNNNN. 

Keiarna needs to find out exactly WHY Greg & Wife #1 divorced (and not just Greg's side of the story) because at this point I'm almost certain whatever happened between them was his fault.

 

[pasdetrois]

6 hours ago, dosodog said:

I pleaded with her to give me 1 year to change my diet and exercise.

My PCP says half the population becomes prediabetic as it ages.  In many cases it does not move into diabetes. He cautions sensible diet and exercise.