S02.E10: Into the Fire

[AnimeMania]

(Season Finale)

The rebels make their move — and so does Juliette.

Premiere Date: January 17, 2025         Apple TV+    

[Mr. R0b0t]

Well well well, my how the turntables!  I have so many questions.

[jcin617]

So was the last 5 minutes setting up the events that led to needing the Silos?  (if we’re to assume that’s the same relic Pez dispenser.)

[Zaffy]

Real life is very busy, so allow me to paste here mostly what I wrote in reddit.

Great episode.

I hope they find a way for Bernard to survive cause Tim Robbins is simply amazing.
We do know Jules in indestructible, hopefully Bernard will borrow some of her plot armor and join us again for season 3.

Was it the same PEZ as the one Jules had?

I liked the flashback, that means season 3 will go back and forth in time? I can see that, Jules trying to disable safeguard while at the same time we see who created the damn thing.

Sims, even the AI rejected you, LMAO!

Overall a very disappointing season, one could skip all first 8 episodes to watch the last 2 and miss nothing important. It seems like they didn't have enough material for 10 episodes and they stretched the story a LOT, filler after filler.
Anyway the premise is really interesting, so of course I 'll be back for season 3, but I will probably be patient enough to wait and binge watch it, so if there are again filler parts to FFW them and be less frustrated about it :)

 

Edited January 17 by Zaffy

[tired and hungry]

Well that was a great episode. I'm glad we got to see a little bit of the flashback on what was happening before the Silos were implemented.

Well another series done(for now) :) Cya next season folks.

[Mindthinkr]

I actually had to hit my iPad to make sure I was still watching Silo when that last bit went on. I feel like I’ve climbed a lot of those Silo stairs, but still am far from the floor I need to be on. Seems as though the reason that people went underground was due to dirty bombs. Radiation. 

[mjc570]

This whole season -except for this last episode, in which there was some plot advancement - was a colossal waste of time.  Not to mention being so ridiculously dark in the 2nd silo (16? ) as to be unwatchable for me.  It seems it was a colossal waste of time for the Silo residents, as well - they're back, really, to square one, in which it is dangerous to go outside.  

Was the whole last scene only to set up something with the Pez dispenser, or were we supposed to recognize the people? I don't think the fact that a dirty bomb was deployed should have been a surprise to anyone, why else would the environment be so hostile to life.

I guess I better go read some recaps.

[Zaffy]

4 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

Radiation. 

But Radiation does not last 350 years...right?
My mind goes more to some chemical or biological weapon they developed and got out of hands.

[iMonrey]

4 hours ago, mjc570 said:

This whole season -except for this last episode, in which there was some plot advancement - was a colossal waste of time.

I could not agree more. And I found this last episode particularly frustrating. It was a series of people finding stuff out then not telling us what it was. "I just discovered something! But I have to go!" "I found something out! But I can't tell you!" "I figured it out!" "What?" "I can't say!" It's the equivalent of telling someone "I know a secret but I can't tell you what it is."

Yes, I guess we found out some things, but for the most part it was a lot of yammer yammer yammer and cutting away as soon as someone started to say anything that could tell us what was going on. It was like Lucy pulling the football away on a loop.

I think there was about an hour and a half of story here that was stretched into ten episodes. I haven't read the books but I suspect the entire story could have been finished in this one season. Instead they're just going to drag it out for another two seasons and I don't know that I'm up for more of what we got this season.

[Mindthinkr]

14 hours ago, Zaffy said:

But Radiation does not last 350 years...right?
My mind goes more to some chemical or biological weapon they developed and got out of hands.

You are correct. It doesn’t last that long. Considering that that Congressman (in DC) was checked for radiation before entering the place to meet the lady he gave the Pez dispenser to, I think they had already had some incident. So what drove them underground might have been started for their safety, or a secondary attack, but select people were kept there under control by IT or AI. 
 

[Zaffy]

14 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

You are correct. It doesn’t last that long. Considering that that Congressman (in DC) was checked for radiation before entering the place to meet the lady he gave the Pez dispenser to, I think they had already had some incident. So what drove them underground might have been started for their safety, or a secondary attack, but select people were kept there under control by IT or AI. 
 

That's also a good theory.
What  perplexes things is the "safeguard".  Why poison the population you are supposed to protect? Stop them from going out cause it is dangerous is one thing, but kill them because they do not obey? 

[Mindthinkr]

1 minute ago, Zaffy said:

That's also a good theory.
What  perplexes things is the "safeguard".  Why poison the population you are supposed to protect? Stop them from going out cause it is dangerous is one thing, but kill them because they do not obey? 

That whole safeguarding thing is weird. Unfortunately they gave no good explanation about it.  After Lucas decoded the book, he refused to share what he had learned. I don’t know whether that was to protect their society as a whole or just himself from IT. 
I haven’t made sense of why they would kill anyone who left the Silo other than it was to protect other Silos from getting too much information. The circumstances must have been very different when they first entered the Silo versus the current times now decades later. 

[Zaffy]

35 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

That whole safeguarding thing is weird. Unfortunately they gave no good explanation about it.  After Lucas decoded the book, he refused to share what he had learned.

They do not like to give us much info, do they? 😁
It has been 350 years, maybe the AI was evolved too much and took things in its own "hands"? I am trying so hard not to read the books. Mostly because they have changed a lot of things on the TV adaptation.

[snowwhyte]

My initial guess was that safeguard meant killing the whole silo to protect the other silos. The AI doesn't want any communication between silos for whatever reason and will sacrifice a silo if it's viewed as a threat to the project as a whole. 

Which presents the question, if it realises that Juliet was at another silo and had contact with the people there will it initiate Safeguard?

[iMonrey]

I just hope they move onto different stories next season. I am so bored with The Rebellion and Barnes. I mean, the show spent all this time on the rebels plotting but to what end? They think they can go outside because Juliette survived, but they can't, so how are we supposed to root for them? And Bernard knows all about the other Silos and The Safeguard but can't tell anyone because - reasons?

Apparently a lot of people didn't like the last five minutes but that was literally the most interesting thing about the whole season IMO.

[Rahul]

It seems like the writers left a lot of the plot advancement for the last two episodes, and even then they held back! We don't know what Lukas was told by the mysterious voice/AI in the sub-level, or what he whispered to Bernard that caused the Mayor to lock himself inside the vault with his suit and gun.

I called the Knox and Sally diversion, but perhaps it was fairly obvious to everyone. The actors did a great job with their subtle expressions that let on they had an understanding, even with the camera rolling. Speaking of which, does Bernard have no other official duties to attend to other than constantly surveilling Walker? You'd think he would have a lot to do--especially at a time like this--but every other shot of him was in that surveillance room with his eyes peeled. I can suspend my disbelief for the whole premise of this show, but that kind of crossed a line. 

Robert Simms annoys me even more than Bernard. He's just a dumb, menacing thug thirsting for more power and abusing whatever power he does have. He doesn't have the brains to run the Silo (but then again, it seems neither did Bernard with his massive miscalculations and misjudgments). Simms is  usually two steps behind everyone else and always abusing his authority, and so I found it very satisfying when he was basically told to vacate the vault in favor of his wife, who has always been the brains behind his braun.

My running theory was that the silos were part of a vast sociological experiment conducted by a foundation of dubious morality to whatever ends--perhaps to study the human condition, leadership paradigms and the roles of classism in society. However, with the introduction of a seemingly split timeline in seems they are indeed bunkers to protect from radiation fallout? 

[Zaffy]

On 1/19/2025 at 6:34 AM, Rahul said:

My running theory was that the silos were part of a vast sociological experiment

hmmm... maybe they still are? I mean.. look at the monitors in the surveillance room, they look brand new. No way a monitor would look as new after 300+ years. I have to change my monitor every 3-4 years not 300! 
Someone must keep supplying them with those.

[tennisgurl]

When we cut to a normal street with cars and rain, I swear for a second that I thought my Apple app had cut to the next show, it felt so uncanny after so much time in the Silo. These last two episodes have been amazing, it finally feels like we are getting some momentum. Will we be going back and fourth from the past to the present next season? This season has been rather uneven, especially after how constantly intense the first was, but now I am fully engaged again. 

I am so glad that Juliette finally told that bratty Audrey to shut the fuck up, I know that's she's an almost totally isolated teen but does being a total dick to one of the four people you know really helping anything? 

Poor Solo, what a messy horrible situation, it seems like his father really was trying to save the Silo but at that point everyone was so obsessed with getting IT to "tell them the truth" that they wouldn't listen to him even when he did try to. Maybe whatever this plan was, to keep the silo's totally isolated from each other even if it means mass murder to keep this whole charade going made sense to someone sometime, but after so much time has passed this feels inevitable. The lesson seems to be that, not only is transparency good for moral reasons, but if you keep lying to people they will inevitably figure out that something is up and wont believe anything you say, even if its the truth or what they are doing really is dangerous.  

That's the problem when you start a rebellion, sometimes it takes on a life of its own. I felt really bad when Juliette was yelling about how everyone she knows is in danger, including her dad, who we know is already dead. 

Edited 1 hour ago by tennisgurl