S02.E08: Lost Souls

[paigow]

When an acclaimed tennis player goes missing in a remote forest, Alec is called to help find her and bring her to safety; however, a medical emergency threatens to sideline Alec, leaving Marisa and Rose to race against time and rescue the woman.

Air Date: Jan 7 / 25

Edited January 3 by paigow

[paigow]

Did somebody submit a spec script to Tracker that ended up at Irrational?

[AnimeMania]

Silvana Estifanos as 17-Year-Old Marisa

Herschel Andoh as Father Gabe Tuo

Jason Schombing as Hank Curty

Lauren Akemi Bradley as Monica Steele

Alisson Amigo as Ranger #1

Ryan Doherty as Ranger #2

Artine Tony Browne as Reggie Gordon

Davida Williams as Shanae Butler

Kayt Roth as Nurse

Michael Karl Richards as David Ramsey

Christian Sloan as Luka Horak

Marci T. House as Dionne Butler

I thought this was a pretty good episode. We really didn't need the Marisa trauma, that time could have been used to better elaborate on the tennis player's personal history to add more suspects.

Edited January 8 by AnimeMania

[Dowel Jones]

Worst active shooter response by law enforcement that I have ever seen.  In fact, they never showed up.  I guess they call this show The Irrational for a reason, because I can't see stopping and camping at night with a gunman after you.  Her reason was that he would have to stop too.  Why?  And then to light up your tent so it can be seen anywhere in the dark.  At least they did the right thing by trapping the guy.

[MarylandGirl]

1 hour ago, Dowel Jones said:

Worst active shooter response by law enforcement that I have ever seen.  In fact, they never showed up.  I guess they call this show The Irrational for a reason, because I can't see stopping and camping at night with a gunman after you.  Her reason was that he would have to stop too.  Why?  And then to light up your tent so it can be seen anywhere in the dark.  At least they did the right thing by trapping the guy.

Yes, I was totally mystified by their decision to camp overnight! At least find someplace really hidden. Maybe don't set up an actual tent? Or set up a decoy tent somewhere to throw him off? And wasn't there the threat of the fire, too?

[cfinboston]

Alec's hospital room was literally the worst set design ever. It looked like the setting of an 80's sitcom when someone has a dream. He had surgery but there's no nurses checking in or monitors or literally anything that looks like a hospital room.

The shootout scene was ridiculous. Nobody trained in shooting would hit someone's shoulder, you aim for center of mass. The guy would have been dead.

[buckboard]

It was nice to see the gf and ex-wife working together, but I'm getting awfully tired of Alec Mercer thinking he has to be the hero and do everything on his own or it won't get done.  Getting up from his bed and trying to do -- what? -- was as ridiculous as stepping in front of a moving train.

[Driad]

Maybe someone should have brought Alec a copy of The Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey.

[peeayebee]

On 1/8/2025 at 5:02 PM, Dowel Jones said:

I guess they call this show The Irrational for a reason

Probably for a lot of reasons. 😆

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And then to light up your tent so it can be seen anywhere in the dark. 

I think they had some branches or stuff on top of the tent to camouflage it. A bit. Of course the entire side was bright white. Oh well. No harm no foul.

 

20 hours ago, cfinboston said:

Alec's hospital room was literally the worst set design ever. It looked like the setting of an 80's sitcom when someone has a dream. He had surgery but there's no nurses checking in or monitors or literally anything that looks like a hospital room.

What got me was how huge the room was, plus there was a lot of unused, empty space. I suppose he was being given special treatment.
 

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The shootout scene was ridiculous. Nobody trained in shooting would hit someone's shoulder, you aim for center of mass. The guy would have been dead.

 

I suppose, but I actually liked that she hit him in the arm rather than kill him. 

Although I'm not a fan of Marisa's, I did like seeing her and Rose working together. 

And of course the interns had to do an experiment. Obviously this is something that the show has to do in every episode, as its gimmick. I used to like it, and actually I like seeing psychological experiments in general, but these just seem shoehorned in.

The highlight in every ep is Kylie.

[Trini]

Always nice to have Rose around; although I would have preferred her and Alec rather than her and Marissa, but that pairing worked fine for this episode.

Thought it was pretty ridiculous that they wrote in a forest fire just so Marissa and Rose would be the only ones searching for the missing woman.

On 1/9/2025 at 6:51 PM, buckboard said:

but I'm getting awfully tired of Alec Mercer thinking he has to be the hero and do everything on his own or it won't get done. 

I think they were trying to address that by having Alec be bedridden for most of the episode.  He was still running experiments and interviewing people, though.

21 hours ago, peeayebee said:

And of course the interns had to do an experiment. Obviously this is something that the show has to do in every episode, as its gimmick. I used to like it, and actually I like seeing psychological experiments in general, but these just seem shoehorned in.

Definitely shoehorned in; but they have been trying to different ways to better incorporate them this season. However, most of the time the assistants and the experiments still feel completely unnecessary.

[paigow]

Alec got VIP treatment because he was in the University Hospital

Lucky that no other patients needed counselling from the priest... dude was hard-core trying to convert Alec.... 

[marceline]

I wonder if Alec's illness had anything to do with Jesse L. Martin's real-life back issues. 

On 1/9/2025 at 10:02 PM, peeayebee said:

What got me was how huge the room was, plus there was a lot of unused, empty space.

That room was insanely large. When I saw the chaplain sit down in one of the THREE visitor chairs, I almost lost it. 

[peeayebee]

18 minutes ago, marceline said:

I wonder if Alec's illness had anything to do with Jesse L. Martin's real-life back issues. 

I didn't know he had back issues. I've been watching Chicago Med (into S2 now), and I wondered if Oliver Platt had had a physical issue when he was in a wheelchair and then using a cane in a subsequent ep.  There seemed no story point in the character being in a wheelchair, in contrast to Alec's medical problem.

[Trini]

4 hours ago, marceline said:

I wonder if Alec's illness had anything to do with Jesse L. Martin's real-life back issues. 

Oh, I forgot about that.

 

4 hours ago, peeayebee said:

I didn't know he had back issues.

Yeah, when he was a regular on The Flash, for like a half-season (or longer?) he was either absent, or minimally there, and then when he was there he was always sitting. Then his screentime got reduced in general after that. I'd have to go look up which season it was. ... And it was Season 4, apparently. (Dang- thought it was later)

[cameron]

On 1/9/2025 at 1:20 AM, cfinboston said:

Alec's hospital room was literally the worst set design ever. It looked like the setting of an 80's sitcom when someone has a dream. He had surgery but there's no nurses checking in or monitors or literally anything that looks like a hospital room.

The shootout scene was ridiculous. Nobody trained in shooting would hit someone's shoulder, you aim for center of mass. The guy would have been dead.

Why is Alec still  wearing that stupid hat after surgery in the hospital.  He's not a premature baby.

[Rodney]

It was actually kind of refreshing to see Alec on the sidelines in this episode.

Phoebe, Rizwan, and Simon were used decently in this episode.  I actually never realized that that mindset hits people going through mazes or places with multiple paths.

About the most interesting part of this episode from an emotional standpoint was Marisa's backstory as to how she's afraid of the woods.  Such a sad story.

While Shanae getting lost may have been accidental, the shooter was a surprising twist.  I'd thought that it was the mysterious guy who'd been tailing her, but was blown away when he turned out to be an insurance agent.  Finding out that she had a huge insurance policy on her made me think that it was definitely either her physical therapist, Monica, her mother, Dionne, or her stepfather, David.  And the latter not being there when Alec confronted Dionne made me realize that he was behind it.

Is Karen David a busy actress?  If not, then they need to offer her a place in the main cast, because Rose is divine.  The scenes of her and Marisa working together were to die for.

Decent episode.

[cameron]

12 hours ago, Rodney said:

It was actually kind of refreshing to see Alec on the sidelines in this episode.

Phoebe, Rizwan, and Simon were used decently in this episode.  I actually never realized that that mindset hits people going through mazes or places with multiple paths.

About the most interesting part of this episode from an emotional standpoint was Marisa's backstory as to how she's afraid of the woods.  Such a sad story.

While Shanae getting lost may have been accidental, the shooter was a surprising twist.  I'd thought that it was the mysterious guy who'd been tailing her, but was blown away when he turned out to be an insurance agent.  Finding out that she had a huge insurance policy on her made me think that it was definitely either her physical therapist, Monica, her mother, Dionne, or her stepfather, David.  And the latter not being there when Alec confronted Dionne made me realize that he was behind it.

Is Karen David a busy actress?  If not, then they need to offer her a place in the main cast, because Rose is divine.  The scenes of her and Marisa working together were to die for.

Decent episode.

The shooter was her stepdad, David who would benefit from the $12M insurance policy, not the insurance salesman.

[Rodney]

5 hours ago, cameron said:

The shooter was her stepdad, David who would benefit from the $12M insurance policy, not the insurance salesman.

I said that when I said "the latter."

[HyeChaps]

I thought for sure the pastor would be back with the solution.

I wonder if they will bring him back.