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Have we all been sexually harrassed and/or sexually assaulted? I am sixty years old. When I was six years old, the boy who lived next door pinned me to the ground and pulled up my shirt. There were a few more humiliating incidents in high school (different boys) and college and jobs after college and on 14th Street and Seventh Avenue in Manhattan. Why are so many men predators? 

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44 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Have we all been sexually harrassed and/or sexually assaulted? I am sixty years old. When I was six years old, the boy who lived next door pinned me to the ground and pulled up my shirt. There were a few more humiliating incidents in high school (different boys) and college and jobs after college and on 14th Street and Seventh Avenue in Manhattan. Why are so many men predators? 

Sexually harassed for sure. Even continuously by the same people who seem to think that bulling a female (I'm a female) is going to result into something. It's societal. They consider it acceptable behavior. 

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1 hour ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Erin really didn’t know who Grace Jones was?

I don't normally want to make such comments about different age groups, but a lot of millennials (I'm including everybody under 45 yo) seem to think it's fine not to bother to learn about certain things, and they claim that this was "before their time". Well, almost all of human history was before my time, but I like learning about it, including pop culture.

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8 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Have we all been sexually harrassed and/or sexually assaulted? I am sixty years old. When I was six years old, the boy who lived next door pinned me to the ground and pulled up my shirt. There were a few more humiliating incidents in high school (different boys) and college and jobs after college and on 14th Street and Seventh Avenue in Manhattan. Why are so many men predators? 

Yes.  Because boys will be boys.  Look, even though he is pulling on your bra or pulling up your dress, he is flirting and must like you!  All of that bullshit we are always told.  They are this way because of how they are raised. No other reason. 

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Simon and Schuster gave Brynn the Moron a book contract??? Even with a ghost writer, who is going to read any of her shallow, insipid meanderings? I sympathize with anyone who has suffered a sexual assault; however, in the case of this silly woman, I can't help but think that since her dull, hackneyed 1950s sex kitten routine was a bust, she's trying out victim. Yawn.

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14 hours ago, MaggieG said:

I would have loved to be able to attend Jenna's stoop sale! Imagine what you could find/buy.

Me, too!!

And just seeing her home would be a delight.

That one woman haggling on camera over the price of the J. Crew glasses…. I wonder if servers in Manhattan were thinking, “I’ve waited on her. Worst tipper.”

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I found Jenna’s sale interesting to watch. That was it. 
I like Raquel but thought the dress up theme was dumb. Jenna dressed like Brynn? While it was funny they need less Brynn not more. 
Ubah’s a bitch. Nothing fun about that one. 
Abe looked like an idiot. His dumb wife did too. 
I don’t care about Brynns story of assault. I believe her but I think she’s using it to gain sympathy from viewers to make up for her being a jerk. She’s done this before crying about being left in a diaper. Don’t care, I’m sick of her.

 

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2 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Ubah’s a bitch. Nothing fun about that one. 

Her story of fibroids and wanting to have a baby at her age (which we still do not know her real age), is a tiresome story line. Why is it every HW that arrives at this junction of age vs. eggs, partner vs. no partner...go to great lengths to go on camera to the gyno, have an exam while we watch, freeze eggs, pester old boyfriends for sperm, etc...and in the end they don't have a baby.  I would think they know we have seen it all so they should find a more interesting story line.

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7 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

I found Jenna’s sale interesting to watch. That was it. 
I like Raquel but thought the dress up theme was dumb. Jenna dressed like Brynn? While it was funny they need less Brynn not more. 
Ubah’s a bitch. Nothing fun about that one. 
Abe looked like an idiot. His dumb wife did too. 
I don’t care about Brynns story of assault. I believe her but I think she’s using it to gain sympathy from viewers to make up for her being a jerk. She’s done this before crying about being left in a diaper. Don’t care, I’m sick of her.

 

I felt bad thinking the same about Brynn, but I agree. The sex kitten thing ran out of steam, so now she's saying it was all a defensive mechanism.  I dont watch trash tv for people crying and sharing about past traumas. I empathize, of course, and encourage therapy if its a viable option, but real life is heavy enough. Its like showing up at a party, and damn, there's Broken Betty in her cups again, cornering everyone to talk about that one time in college, again. We've all got those stories and they're important to work through, and in real life,if that's my friend, I'm getting her out of the party to go talk as long as she wants, But for entertainment? Hard pass. See also: egg freezing, healing journeys, spiritual journeys, and precocious 'talented' children. 

I think Abe really wanted to look hot and seemed gutted that Bryan basically laughed at him and said he lost his sexiness.  Party theme was kind of all over the place. Some dressed as other people, some glam, one Madonna, I didn't get it. But it looked fun anyway.

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6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Her story of fibroids and wanting to have a baby at her age (which we still do not know her real age), is a tiresome story line. Why is it every HW that arrives at this junction of age vs. eggs, partner vs. no partner...go to great lengths to go on camera to the gyno, have an exam while we watch, freeze eggs, pester old boyfriends for sperm, etc...and in the end they don't have a baby.  I would think they know we have seen it all so they should find a more interesting story line.

Maybe if Ubah’s boyfriend filmed with her, she would be more interesting to watch. All she does now is argue. She gets rather aggressive with Erin. Last season snatching her sunglasses and this season calling her a bitch.  She’s mean and no fun. 

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Seriously, who would buy an advice memoir "penned" by Brynn? 

I also get tired of women on these shows who seem to think a having  a baby by any means is the solution to all of their problems. Having a baby isn't a substitute for prolonged extensive therapy. To me, it seems like some of these women confuse their biological clock with whatever pain they're harboring that needs to be healed. What happens once the child is born and the novelty wears off? The old wound(s) is still there and now we have a stressed, exhausted, and emotionally wounded mother. No wonder so many children are quickly handed off to be raised by nannies.

IMO, Brynn is in no position to have a child and I am so glad her ex-fiance came to his senses and put the brakes on that outlandish scheme. I would love to know the reason why he and Brynn broke up. He seems like a great guy and yes, definitely too good for her.

Side note: I have read and heard many times that women who have suffered sexual abuse at a young age may be prone to acting out in an overly sexual manner in their appearance, demeanor, and interaction with whichever gender they are attracted to. That may explain Brynn's sex kitten behavior? I am truly sympathetic of what she has experienced, but she needs help.

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3 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

Side note: I have read and heard many times that women who have suffered sexual abuse at a young age may be prone to acting out in an overly sexual manner in their appearance, demeanor, and interaction with whichever gender they are attracted to. That may explain Brynn's sex kitten behavior? I am truly sympathetic of what she has experienced, but she needs help.

Yes, this could explain Brynn's behavior.

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5 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

Side note: I have read and heard many times that women who have suffered sexual abuse at a young age may be prone to acting out in an overly sexual manner in their appearance, demeanor, and interaction with whichever gender they are attracted to. That may explain Brynn's sex kitten behavior? I am truly sympathetic of what she has experienced, but she needs help.

I found this on Quora:

“Caveat: I am not a psychiatrist or psychologist. 

I could see hypersexuality in abuse sufferers coming about in two ways. One is when the individual is taught that their only worth is tied up in their sexuality. If a victim does not feel valued for other skills, contributions, options, etc., then I suppose that the victim would focus on what has always gotten them noticed--even if the attention was distasteful, unpleasant, painful, or downright horrific.

The other scenario would be when the survivor is trying to reclaim control over their sexuality. Especially if sex has always been under the control or at the behest of the abuser, hyper-sexuality could be an attempt to defy or subvert the abuser and bring the victim's sexuality back under the victim's control and judgment.”

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9 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

Side note: I have read and heard many times that women who have suffered sexual abuse at a young age may be prone to acting out in an overly sexual manner in their appearance, demeanor, and interaction with whichever gender they are attracted to. That may explain Brynn's sex kitten behavior? I am truly sympathetic of what she has experienced, but she needs help.

Not saying Brynn didn't have a tough upbringing the sexual assault occurred when she was 34 and living in NYC. https://people.com/rhony-star-brynn-whitfield-opens-up-about-surviving-sexual-assault-exclusive-8754876

Listen, I'm a believe the victims person. That said, I side-eye literally everything that comes out of that woman's mouth: Backstory, career, engagements, everything. 

As an example, in the linked article she claims that, at the time of the assault, she was "chief communications officer at a pet company".  Wouldn't such a lofty role be on her linkedin profile

I really just can't with her. If she's making up stories to sell a book, that's just completely beyond the pale IMHO.

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6 hours ago, snarts said:

Not saying Brynn didn't have a tough upbringing the sexual assault occurred when she was 34 and living in NYC. https://people.com/rhony-star-brynn-whitfield-opens-up-about-surviving-sexual-assault-exclusive-8754876

Listen, I'm a believe the victims person. That said, I side-eye literally everything that comes out of that woman's mouth: Backstory, career, engagements, everything. 

As an example, in the linked article she claims that, at the time of the assault, she was "chief communications officer at a pet company".  Wouldn't such a lofty role be on her linkedin profile

I really just can't with her. If she's making up stories to sell a book, that's just completely beyond the pale IMHO.

I don't think she is making stories up (and I don't really like her). 

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