S47.E08: "He's All That" LIVE CHAT THREAD

[Straycat80]

No clue who is going home tonight. When do they start the jury? 

[truthaboutluv]

I personally think breaking up a pair is always the smarter move. Once old Gata is weakened, Rachel may not have many places to maneovre. 

[WatcherUp2]

Sam has Simon Cowell's icky grab-your-teeth-with-your-top-lip-in-a-death-grip smile.

[SoMuchTV]

I don’t want this to sound like this is coming from the wrong place, but I’m trying to understand. Didn’t we learn that Teeny is non-binary?  Although I’m not sure it’s been mentioned on the show or I’ve just read it here. So, why is this the season they decided to split up men vs women?  I guess it’s like Bernie Sanders and the democrats - teeny has chosen to caucus with the women? 

Edited November 7 by SoMuchTV
I see I’ve cross posted with others who have the same question

[LadyChatts]

5 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

Teeny has had the worse instincts so far in this game with alliances and their coming out on top. 

I'm thinking about the last time they were indecisive about voting off someone she liked.  They might be the foil in this plan.

(I edited because I realized I used the wrong pronouns).

Edited November 7 by LadyChatts

[Rodney]

Damn.  I can't tell who's going home.  Sam, Sierra, Rachel, and Gabe are all the targets tonight.  Whom will it be?

[Quilt Fairy]

1 minute ago, Straycat80 said:

When do they start the jury?

Tonight's vote. 

[Rodney]

1 minute ago, Straycat80 said:

No clue who is going home tonight. When do they start the jury? 

Tonight.

1 minute ago, SoMuchTV said:

I don’t want this to sound like this is coming from the wrong place, but I’m trying to understand. Didn’t we learn that Teeny is non-binary?  Although I’m not sure it’s been mentioned on the show or I’ve just read it here. So, why is this the season they decided to split up men vs women?  I guess it’s like Bernie Sanders and the democrats - teeny has chosen to caucus with the women? 

Teeny was put with the women because they're still genetically, physically, biologically female.  All nonbinary people, while not identifying with a specific gender, are still biologically, physically, genetically one gender or the other, regardless of their intentions of not identifying as one or the other.

[LadyChatts]

2 minutes ago, Rodney said:

Damn.  I can't tell who's going home.  Sam, Sierra, Rachel, and Gabe are all the targets tonight.  Whom will it be?

I'm leaning towards Gabe.  A Gata going seems too perfect.  I think the show might try and blindside the audience by making it seem like a former Gata is going.  And I think Andy talks big but is someone who won't make a move until it's too late to make a move. 

[SoMuchTV]

3 minutes ago, Rodney said:

Teeny was put with the women because they're still genetically, physically, biologically female.  All nonbinary people, while not identifying with a specific gender, are still biologically, physically, genetically one gender or the other, regardless of their intentions of not identifying as one or the other.

Sounds reasonable, but since they don’t normally split up men vs women, why would they pick this season to do that?  Why even make it a thing when they didn’t have to? (Obviously that’s directed to the show, not the poster I replied to.)

[truthaboutluv]

I definitely think it'll be an old Gata, just not sure which one. 

[LadyChatts]

8 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

I personally think breaking up a pair is always the smarter move. Once old Gata is weakened, Rachel may not have many places to maneovre. 

I'm surprised that there was talk earlier on about people assuming Sam/Sierra were a pair and that made them nervous people perceived them like that.  Yet there hasn't been a ton of talk about that until tonight.

And Andy might be blowing this lol  

[WatcherUp2]

Was Andy's answer not what Jeff asked? I thought I'd dozed off for a second.

[LadyChatts]

Seems early for the vote?

[truthaboutluv]

I only see Gabe going if they went with Rachel and she gets spooked enough to play her idol. 

[LadyChatts]

And Rachel puts her idol (unless it was her SITD) in her pocket.  So maybe she's going to play that tonight.

Yep, she played her SITD.

[Straycat80]

SITD? She has an idol. 

[Michichick]

An episode or two ago, Jeff referred to Teeny as “she.” I know he wouldn’t disrespect someone’s identity deliberately, which made me think perhaps Teeny wasn’t out as non-binary when they filmed the show.

[LadyChatts]

And she got a not safe.  So there's another person who couldn't vote.  Probably is an old Gata going then.

[truthaboutluv]

So she was so nervous she played a Shot in the Dark instead of an idol that guarantees safety? The hell? 

Looks like they split the votes between Sam and Sierra. Knew it would be an old Gata.

[LadyChatts]

Hee hee, I needed this tonight.  

A tie vote between Sam and Sierra.  I thought the vote started a little too early.

[truthaboutluv]

So Sierra basically has to vote Sam.

[LadyChatts]

Wait, Sierra can re-vote?  I'm confused.

Well, at least she has to vote for Sam.  Way to go guys!  

[KaveDweller]

Sierra seems pissed. Understandably, but more than some people who get voted out.

[dizzyd]

Really good episode.

[Straycat80]

I didn’t mind Sam or Sierra. Was really hoping for Andy, I’m tired of looking at his smug face. 

[LadyChatts]

This season's TC have been amazing.

[willco]

3 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

So she was so nervous she played a Shot in the Dark instead of an idol that guarantees safety? The hell? 

Looks like they split the votes between Sam and Sierra. Knew it would be an old Gata.

Yeah, I need that explained to me- I don't get it ?

[truthaboutluv]

What did I say after the first episode - Gata's decision to choose Andy over John would come back and bite them in the ass.

Because for all the "I'm so insecure" bullshit from him, Andy would become one of those players in the game that seemingly never goes away. And sure enough, he ended up being their downfall after the merge. 

Edited November 7 by truthaboutluv

[Rodney]

Damn.  Hoped for Sam.  But he's weaker without Sierra, so that's fine with me.

[MerBearHou]

Andy’s maniacal smile and eyes — I had to look away whenever they showed him during the vote reading.  Wow, he creeps me out.  

I like both Sierra and Sam — sorry it had to be one of them.  

Edited November 7 by MerBearHou

[gorgy]

I hate Andy in a non-tv villain way. Like, he's a vomit human-being with no redeeming qualities.

[Rodney]

Just now, MerBearHou said:

I like both Sierra and Sam — sorry it had to be one of them.  

Sierra's very likable.  I don't see what's to like about Sam.  So I'm glad his position has worsened.

[LadyChatts]

1 minute ago, truthaboutluv said:

What did I say after the first episode - Gata's decision to choose Andy over John would come back and bite them in the ass because for all the insecure bullshit from him, Andy would become one of those players in the game that seemingly never goes away. And sure enough, he ended up being their downfall after the merge. 

I've said this, too, that people's decisions on who they voted off have come back to bite them.  I'm in no way saying Andy is a genius mastermind, but they clearly underestimated him and did not keep him close or make him feel valued.  I'm glad he got them first.

2 minutes ago, Rodney said:

Damn.  Hoped for Sam.  But he's weaker without Sierra, so that's fine with me.

I'm actually surprised they didn't go for Sam.  I viewed him as the stronger of the two, so they must have seen something out there that made Sierra more threatening.  I hope Sam is next though, but the way this season is going alliances seem to flip flop every week.

[Grizzly]

I wonder if Rachel played her SITD just so she wouldn't have to vote? 

[susannot]

Unlike most of you, I'm glad that Andy got out his nemesis Sierra.  I hated that she referred to him as a little toy or plaything that she and Sam could keep in their back pockets.  You don't treat another human being like that, especially on Survivor.  I'm always happy to see the popular cool kids voted out, possibly because of unresolved issues from high school.

[Rodney]

1 minute ago, susannot said:

Unlike most of you, I'm glad that Andy got out his nemesis Sierra.  I hated that she referred to him as a little toy or plaything that she and Sam could keep in their back pockets.  You don't treat another human being like that, especially on Survivor.  I'm always happy to see the popular cool kids voted out, possibly because of unresolved issues from high school.

Sam was equally guilty of treating Andy that way, though.

[susannot]

1 minute ago, Rodney said:

Sam was equally guilty of treating Andy that way, though.

Maybe, but Sierra explicitly said it on camera.

[Lady Lucy]

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I wonder if Rachel played her SITD just so she wouldn't have to vote? 

Possibly. I also think she may have played it (rather than her idol) because everyone knew she had a SITD but no one knows about the idol. Element of surprise at a future TC.

[susannot]

2 minutes ago, Lady Lucy said:

Possibly. I also think she may have played it (rather than her idol) because everyone knew she had a SITD but no one knows about the idol. Element of surprise at a future TC.

Yes, very well played Rachel.  I am impressed with the women this season.

[Skooma]

10 hours ago, Brown44 said:

Kyle proved that if your hungry enough and a vegan you will eat meat.

Kyle used to be a vegan but is a vegetarian now he said.  I'm a vegetarian and I would never eat meat no matter what.

10 hours ago, PaperTree said:

I would starve on a vegan diet.  I don't like most vegetables.

Vegan is a bit harder than being a vegetarian but I know plenty.

But we vegetarians stuff ourselves with pizza, mac and cheese, tufu stuff that actually tastes great, ice cream, chocolate, lasagna, all sorts of eggless cakes and pies, fruits etc.  We also occasionally eat a vegetable too.  😉

Edited November 7 by Skooma