Chit-Chat: The Feels

[bluegirl147]

1 hour ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

The seafood restaurant in my town changed its sign over the weekend to read "Happy January 20th." I will never again step into that place though I am not all that surprised. I know I encounter MAGAs out in the wild every time I leave the house, I just didn't expect them to be so open about it. And the place is one that definitely treats their workers like shit. Their sign rotates between holiday greetings and "we're hiring." I suspect the sign will change after the 20th to the usual standby.

There is also a BBQ place where the walls are plastered with pictures of the owner and various Republican leaders. The man gave space to Mark Robinson back in October for a rally after all the news about Mark broke if that gives you any idea what kind of person the owner is. In the last decade, I have only eaten there once where I noticed the pictures and have never set foot back in there since. He's another local business owner who claims to be a Christian while paying his employees the minimum.

There is a local restaurant owner who in 2019 made some pro Trump remarks.  They weren't only pro Trump but also racist with regards to supporting Trump's anti immigrant stance.  I live in a red state but this particular city is pink (ish) so there was backlash.  He lost his contract to provide food for the local civic arena. Social media was filled with posts outraged about what he posted with a smaller amount of posts supporting what he said.  Within a year he was back to catering for the civic arena and the restaurant was back to having just as many if not more customers before his Trump post.  I haven't stepped in that restaurant since and if someone suggests that as a place to go I simply say fuck no.

When I boycott something it's forever.  That includes Chick Fil A and Hobby Lobby.

[Dimity]

10 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

When I boycott something it's forever.  That includes Chick Fil A and Hobby Lobby.

We had a Chick Fil A open near us recently.  No one in my family has any intention of going. 

With regard to boycotts a local restaurant here aided and abetted the "Freedom" Convoy who were occupying Ottawa.  And then were shocked, just shocked at the backlash they got.  Didn't stop to think that the couple of weeks of thrill they got backing the people making life a living hell for the residents might just bite them in the ass after the occupiers were gone.  They ended up closing.  The heart bleeds for them.

[Bastet]

2 hours ago, tres bien said:

Not one democrat threatened to have someone hung for doing their constitutional duty. Not one democrat beat the shit out of police officers or crashed thru doors and windows and defiled the Capital and embarrassed us to the world.

Yeah, Kamala Harris certified her own loss because: “This duty is a sacred obligation—one I will uphold guided by love of country, loyalty to our Constitution, and unwavering faith in the American people.”  Meanwhile, Republicans are still peddling lies about the insurrection, most outrageously Mike Collins claiming "thousands of peaceful grandmothers gathered in Washington, D.C., to take a self-guided, albeit unauthorized, tour of the U.S. Capitol building" and "some individuals entered the Capitol, took photos, and explored the building before leaving".

[Dimity]

3 minutes ago, Bastet said:

Mike Collins claiming "thousands of peaceful grandmothers gathered in Washington, D.C., to take a self-guided, albeit unauthorized, tour of the U.S. Capitol building"

 

[peacheslatour]

Yep, just grandmas, politely touring the Capital.

[bluegirl147]

3 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Yep, just grandmas, politely touring the Capital.

I don't know what is scarier.  Those peddling those lies or the people who believe those lies.

[nokat]

3 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

I don't feel bad for belittling people who voted for a rapist sociopath. 

I wanted to reiterate that he is an adjudicated rapist, a convicted felon., for those in the back. Apparently this can't be said enough.

[bluegirl147]

8 minutes ago, nokat said:

I wanted to reiterate that he is an adjudicated rapist, a convicted felon., for those in the back. Apparently this can't be said enough.

If all the cases against him had gotten in front of juries it's a real possibility he would have lost all of them. When he is made to defend his actions in front of people not at his rallies he fails. Even though he is a narcissist I think somewhere in the deep recesses of his mind he knows he is fraud and he lives in fear of being found out.

[PuddleJumper]

On 1/5/2025 at 1:12 AM, Anela said:

But Trump's weren't? He lost in 2020. 

yes but he won this time!  YAY!!!!! 👍😊

IF Kamala wins in 2028 I'll remove the "HAS/BEEN" pronouns, it won't happen but if it makes you feel better, so be it.

[JustHereForFood]

3 hours ago, Dimity said:

And of course Trump/Musk react to Trudeau resigning by talking, once again, about us become the 51st state.  President-Elect also known as the official shit disturber.

Oof, people being disrespectful of countries' sovereignty piss me to no end. 

[Anela]

53 minutes ago, PuddleJumper said:

yes but he won this time!  YAY!!!!! 👍😊

IF Kamala wins in 2028 I'll remove the "HAS/BEEN" pronouns, it won't happen but if it makes you feel better, so be it.

It doesn't work that way. She only lost once, and his supporters are immediately putting that label on her (it is not a pronoun, and the way his supporters continue to deride others that way, is gross). He lost four years ago, and they kept insisting that he was the best. 

[Dimity]

At the end of the day Kamala will no doubt continue to have a career, whether she stays in politics or not she has a prestigious law career to "fall back on".  Had Trump lost they'd be fitting him out for an orange jumpsuit as sooner or later one of his many court appearances would have resulted in a jail term.

[Dimity]

43 minutes ago, JustHereForFood said:

Oof, people being disrespectful of countries' sovereignty piss me to no end. 

I've read conflicting articles trying to explain why he keeps doing this.  Of course most are insisting "hey he's just joking" and I do think he's not being serious - I don't see him invading Canada (or Panama or Greenland).  But that doesn't mean he isn't up to something.  I mean sure this could be his usual verbal diarrhea but I don't think so.  At the heart of this he's trolling, he wants people to be unsettled, and he's being contemptuous and, quelle surprise, he's also lying.

He claims that most Canadians want this - which is crap on the face of it but even if you go by polls, at best 13 % express some interest in becoming American.  And most of that 13 % - again, quelle surprise, are white Anglo men.  What a shocker.

Edited Yest. at 12:57 AM by Dimity

[Bookworm 1979]

5 hours ago, Dimity said:

 Essentially this means we won't get the early, forced election Pollievre has been agitating for for months. 

I'm in Alberta, and people here are angry that they can't vote him out of office now.  It will be interesting to see what Danielle Smith does when she can't blame him for all of Alberta's problems anymore. 😁

[tres bien]

Trump’s Canada shtick is more of his mean girl crap that endears him to his MAGA cult 

 

[bluegirl147]

4 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Trump’s Canada shtick is more of his mean girl crap that endears him to his MAGA cult 

 

You never know with Trump.  He might want to invade a neighboring country like his buddy Putin. He so badly wants to be thought of as a strongman.  

[Annber03]

17 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Excuse me, but I've been here since day one reading all about how the left can't sleep, can't eat, stressed to the max, etc. And God forbid anyone on the right post something the majority here doesn't agree with. It's been 2 months of the same rhetoric over & over, which is tedious at best.

So...don't read the thread. Problem solved. 

Also, once again, I would really, genuinely appreciate people stop downplaying the reactions from those of us who are stressed out and having difficulty sleeping and eating and whatnot because of the results of this election. We are about to get a guy back into office who litterally tried to overthrow a democratic election because he couldn't deal with the fact that he lost in 2020, and did nothing to stop his supporters from violently storming the Capitol building.

We are about to have a party back in office that actively wants to get rid of the ACA, which will cause significant pain and stress for those who benefitted from it these past fifteen years, and who may wind up going back to being unable to pay their medical bills. You'd think the people who supposedly voted for Trump because they complained about the price of eggs would sympathize with that particular economic struggle. 

We are about to have a party back in office that wants to strip LGBTQ+ people and women of their rights or have already been doing so. Women no longer have control over their reproductive choices in a lot of states, and if the GOP has their way, that'll soon be the case on a national level. LGBTQ+ people saw Roe overturned and are genuinely afraid of the Supreme Court overturning the ruling that legalized same-sex marriage in this country. 

We are about to have a party back in power that is beholden to autocrats like Putin, and super rich guys like Musk, and who will do their bidding instead of what the people of this country want.

We are about to have a party back in power that refuses to do shit about gun violence in this country, even after numerous mass shootings. And whose leader grossly mishandled a deadly pandemic that left thousands dead. But hey, sure am glad they're rushing to protect those fetuses! 

Like, if you genuinely cannot understand why all of the above terrifies the crap out of people and is causing them a lot of stress and anxiety, I honestly don't know what to tell you at this point. I know people who will be directly affected by all of the above. I will be directly affected by some of this stuff as well. This thread was created specifically for us to have a space to vent about this stuff so that we wouldn't clog up other places with it. If you are going to come here and read this, I will thank you to quit acting like our stress and concerns, al of which are based in very valid fears, are "tedious" to wade thorugh. 

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As for catching a break, the right could say they never got a break from Obama serving 8 years straight. And for all intents & purposes, he's STILL wielding his power. 

Remind me again what Obama has done that's on the level of all of the above things Trump has done that makes the right need "a break" from him. The two scenarios are not even remotely comparable on any conceivable level and for anyone on the right to imply otherwise is hilarious. 

8 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

The hatred toward the republicans is unsettling.

You know why I can't stand the Republican Party? Because of all of the above things I listed that they are doing or want to try and do under Trump. When they actually decide to do this when an election doesn't go theri way...

5 hours ago, tres bien said:

Not one democrat called the election stolen, fraudulent or stolen. Not one democrat threatened that if the VP certified the election we’d never have a country again

The president didn’t snub his predecessor and not invite him to the White House after the election 

Not one democrat threatened to have someone hung for doing their constitutional duty. Not one democrat beat the shit out of police officers or crashed thru doors and windows and defiled the Capital and embarrassed us to the world.
I believe the democrats are decent people that care about America and Americans. I hope voters feel that way in 2026

...instead of supporting and encouraging a violent coup attempt on our Capitol, then maybe I'll actually bother to respect them as a party again. 

And no, I can't respect Trump supporters. I just can't. I do not understand anyone who looked at the last nine years of insanity he's brought onto this country and who still thinks he deserves to be back in office. I do not understand anyone looking at him after the horrors of January 6th, 2021, and still deciding he was worth supporting. I can't and won't respect that. There is no valid justification or excuse for supporting someone who allowed that to happen. 

Edited Yest. at 01:50 AM by Annber03

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, Bookworm 1979 said:

I'm in Alberta, and people here are angry that they can't vote him out of office now.  It will be interesting to see what Danielle Smith does when she can't blame him for all of Alberta's problems anymore. 😁

I love Albertans who pretend there was ever any hope that Alberta would go Liberal!  I don't think that's ever happened.  And yeah, I hear you about Smith (she is apparently going to Trump's inauguration - wonder if she'll reconsider now that clearly Trudeau could not care less) poor pet, who will she blame if Pollievre gets in?  Back to blaming Quebec I guess.

[Yeah No]

8 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

I'm not sure what you went through in November. I remember you posting something and people disagreeing with it, which you called "nitpicking." I also remember you repeatedly singling someone out for an anecdote they posted. People are allowed to ignore posts or not like them. If people are uncomfortable expressing their views here, that seems to be an issue of their own making. They are the ones choosing to stay away. No one demanded that of them. You can post here but don't expect everyone to like everything you say or engage with it exactly how you want them to.

I don't expect everyone to agree with or like everything I say, but I expect a little respect for having a different opinion, which I certainly haven't felt from a couple of people, one of which appears to have left the board. In fact I just went over the thread and find a history of certain posters zeroing in on opinions they don't agree with and making people feel defensive, criticized and unwelcome here, and not just me, but certain others as well.

I cautioned someone who gave the finger to someone in a cyber truck from potentially pissing someone off and getting into a road rage incident. I just cautioned that if it were seen by the person in the other car it could ignite their anger. Period, the end. I didn't criticize their feelings or their opinion either, although I did say that I thought there were better ways to express and deal with one's anger. I also said I wouldn't make presumptions about someone's politics based on their choice of car. And yet you'd think I was ripping someone a new one by the way I was treated. My words were twisted, even my sentiment. Like what I said was ridiculous. And I feel that was unfair. I hate Trump with the power of 1,000 suns so it certainly wasn't about THAT. I just know that today with the volatile situation we have politically we can't be too careful about what we do in public where someone else might see it. And our cars are not private places. Others can potentially see what we're doing in there. But I was made to feel like that was a stupid thing to think. And I'm sorry but I don't think it is. I am still at a loss to understand why that of all things was picked apart and found offensive. I can only imagine that some unfair things were being assumed about me.

And P.S. all of my subsequent responses (including this one) were in my own defense after being harangued over and over again about the same thing. I probably should have ignored it but I feel that I have a right to express my opinion here without being criticized and disrespected by someone. And I am not the only person who feels that way here. If you want to know why people feel unwelcome here this right now is a prime example of why.

And P.P.S. you can look through my posts with a fine toothed comb and you won't see me getting on anyone's back here in that way. I have disagreed with a lot of opinions here but I don't take people on about them over and over again in a personal way. Either I just let it go or I try to disagree respectfully. If I state an opinion I normally try not to get personal with anyone or in their face about it. I state it and disagree but I don't come down on them and twist their words and make them feel attacked and defensive, like I feel has been done to me by a couple of people. The only time I take anyone on is when I'm defending myself against their criticism of me. Like right now for example! Only I feel that I am justified in doing that. Coming down on others with condemnation for their opinions is in my opinion not justified and not respectful, and given my past of having been bullied as a child, I don't take that kind of stuff from anyone lying down. I have learned to defend myself both in real life and online.

And lastly, what gets me is that I agree BY FAR with most of what is written on this board. But a certain few people just love to zero in on anything I write that isn't lock step with them or the popular opinion and pick it apart until it bleeds. All I want is for what I write to be treated with respect like anyone else here. If I keep replying with posts it's because I'm not going to take that kind of disrespect without standing up for myself.

[Lantern7]

You know what I want? Next rally he holds (and yes, he will hold one), get a few hundred liberal-minded people to infiltrate it. Middle of his verbal diarrhea, start shouting at him and chanting. I know it’s been done before, but it’s usually a few people who get “escorted” out where YKW beats off on stage. That’s disheartening.

[Bastet]

59 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

Next rally he holds (and yes, he will hold one),

He's holding a "victory rally" the day before his inauguration.  Because, you know, being inaugurated isn't enough.  There's a veneer of civility and sanity to that, so he needs a venue in which he can unleash his hatred and lunacy in full.

[PuddleJumper]

21 minutes ago, Bastet said:

He's holding a "victory rally" the day before his inauguration.  Because, you know, being inaugurated isn't enough.  There's a veneer of civility and sanity to that, so he needs a venue in which he can unleash his hatred and lunacy in full.

he's holding a rally because thousands of his supporters asked him to and we couldn't be happier!!!

I'll be there dancing and singing with everyone else!  YMCA! 😊

[Lantern7]

29 minutes ago, Bastet said:

He's holding a "victory rally" the day before his inauguration.  Because, you know, being inaugurated isn't enough.  There's a veneer of civility and sanity to that, so he needs a venue in which he can unleash his hatred and lunacy in full.

Like I said before . . . Obama delivered an impassioned speech the day before he left office. His Orangeness (or his handlers) is no doubt holding the rally in order to undercut any farewell messages Biden might deliver.

Depressing question: did The Village People sign off on “YMCA” being used in that way? Not like the MAGA faithful are aware of the homoerotic overtones, of course. 🙄

Edited Yest. at 06:17 AM by Lantern7

[Soapy Goddess]

11 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

You're not only speaking for yourself when you say, "THE RIGHT gets over things quickly." You don't represent all of the right. If you had said, "I and my friends get over things quickly," that would have been a different story.

I don't recall saying that I was the boss. I gave you some advice that I would follow myself. If I were somewhere with posts that I found "tedious" and made me unhappy, I'd either stay away for a while or find somewhere else more my speed. I'm not making any demands. You're the one who demands a safe space for yourself.

That's exactly what some of us mean when we say "nitpicking". Of course I don't speak for millions of people on the right. It should have been understood that I only speak for myself and those on "the right" who didn't dwell on losing in 2020. We didn't have "The Feels" chitchat here to assuage ourselves with similar posts to help us overcome.

Furthermore, it shouldn't matter to ANYONE here whether I'm left, right or center. I first came here with understanding of your (collective) "feelings" but was immediately attacked and/or criticized for posting an opposing view. Understanding and discussion is one thing (which I sought), but to feel bullied into believing that my views weren't wanted here, was very unexpected.

Yes, some posts are tedious, but it doesn't make me unhappy in the sense you mean. The only unhappiness I feel is for our country and what the division has done to ALL OF US. Sadly, there's no turning back. We all hope for the best, but some diehard folks will continue to hate and spew hate. Is this all we have to look forward to as we continue age/mature? If that's the case, our golden years are going to be very tarnished. 

That said, I'm not "demanding" a safe space for myself. I have a very thick skin and have survived the initiation. What would be nice is to have neutral territory for those that truly want to have civil discourse without the usual digs. A place where ALL opinions are respected regardless of political affiliation. 

[anony.miss]

18 hours ago, Macbeth1966 said:

As today is the 4th anniversary of 1/6, I am sharing a video from the House of Representatives January 6th Committee.   May we never forget what Trump tried to do.

Aquilino Gonell, former Capitol Police Sergeant, on January 6th four years later:

"It was the longest day of my life, with more than forty people assaulting me—individually and in concert with others—over the course of exhausting, harrowing hours, all because the person who had incited the mob and had the authority to send the reinforcements chose to watch the siege on TV. As the attack unfolded sixteen blocks away, he cheered it from the comfort and safety of the dining room off the Oval Office. While immigrant officers like myself were defending the Capitol, his minions—many native-born rioters—attacked it. That person, Donald Trump, has now been re-elected. And today, exactly four years after January 6th, his victory will be certified by Congress.

...Many members of Congress would not be here to vote to certify Trump’s re-election without our actions four years ago. The mob didn’t get to them, but not for lack of trying. They’re here today because four years ago officers like myself did what we did inside the Capitol tunnel. Had the mob taken that entrance, a lot of members would have been hurt or killed.

Some of these same elected officials—who claim to be on the side of the rule of law—are now defending the January 6th rioters and calling on Trump to pardon them. He has said he intends to do so. And adding insult to our injuries, some members of Congress are inviting rioters to Trump’s inauguration, bringing them back to the site of the building they desecrated. This infuriates me. It is dishonorable.

...This is the fourth anniversary of January 6th. This one hits harder than the other three and makes the moral injury far greater. What took place was an unforgivable, cardinal sin. But clearly much of the country, including one of our political parties, has chosen to reward those who committed it."

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/january-6th-four-years-later-aquilino-gonell-feel-betrayed

What a disgusting, perverse joke of an inauguration this will be, filled with honored guests who are the same violent terrorists who attacked the Capitol four years ago. Morally bankrupt doesn't even begin to cover the shame, degradaton and profound sickness of the Republican party.

 

Edited Yest. at 07:47 AM by anony.miss

[Soapy Goddess]

5 hours ago, Annber03 said:

Like, if you genuinely cannot understand why all of the above terrifies the crap out of people and is causing them a lot of stress and anxiety, I honestly don't know what to tell you at this point. I know people who will be directly affected by all of the above. I will be directly affected by some of this stuff as well. This thread was created specifically for us to have a space to vent about this stuff so that we wouldn't clog up other places with it. If you are going to come here and read this, I will thank you to quit acting like our stress and concerns, al of which are based in very valid fears, are "tedious" to wade thorugh. 

Honestly, no...I don't understand that cause of stress & anxiety because the new administration hasn't even begun yet!!

Instead of stressing out beforehand, you all should be disappointed in Biden's recent behavior and how over the last few weeks he's been spiting Reps by doing everything in his power to sabotage the incoming president. You all know what those spiteful things are, so I won't be tedious and repeat them here.

I'm sorry that certain things might affect you, but the majority of voters have been affected by everything that Biden has done during his term, and they voiced that opinion at the polls.

Again, Reps didn't have a "safe space" here to whine about our fears & anxiety. And guess what? We ALL survived the last 4 years! As will all of you who will survive the next 4 years. 

 

[Soapy Goddess]

6 hours ago, Annber03 said:

You know why I can't stand the Republican Party? Because of all of the above things I listed that they are doing or want to try and do under Trump. When they actually decide to do this when an election doesn't go theri way...

And that's unfortunate because the Rep party (in and of itself) did NOT do this. A bunch of people (like all gangs that gather over the internet) decided what they were going to do. It was NOT the entire Rep party.

There are crazy people in all walks of life, not just affiliated political parties. In the same way that I'm not going to hate all Dems for some of their lousy choices, you should not hate all Reps solely for the ones that stormed the Capitol. THEY are the ones who decided that course of action.

6 hours ago, Annber03 said:

Remind me again what Obama has done that's on the level of all of the above things Trump has done that makes the right need "a break" from him. The two scenarios are not even remotely comparable on any conceivable level and for anyone on the right to imply otherwise is hilarious. 

You know what's hilarious? The fact that most Dems don't have a clue how Obama actually started dividing people with some of his choices. In fact, his last interference actually cost his party the election! Now that's ironic, isn't it? 😉

[Soapy Goddess]

3 hours ago, Yeah No said:

I don't expect everyone to agree with or like everything I say, but I expect a little respect for having a different opinion, which I certainly haven't felt from a couple of people, one of which appears to have left the board. In fact I just went over the thread and find a history of certain posters zeroing in on opinions they don't agree with and making people feel defensive, criticized and unwelcome here, and not just me, but certain others as well.

My thoughts exactly! How can we have civil discourse on both sides if so many PT'ers continue to feel their opinions don't matter. 

This, and ONLY this, is why I was advocating for a more neutral territory. A place for all to feel respected and welcomed without being defensive and/or criticized for their opinions. 

1 hour ago, Lantern7 said:

Depressing question: did The Village People sign off on “YMCA” being used in that way

Yes, they did. In fact, they are thrilled that YMCA has brought attention to a new generation that is also enjoying their music.

[anony.miss]

1 hour ago, Soapy Goddess said:

 

Instead of stressing out beforehand, you all should be disappointed in Biden's recent behavior

I'm saving all my disappointment for the convicted felon, rapist and insurrectionist being sworn in on January 20th.

[Soapy Goddess]

3 minutes ago, anony.miss said:

I'm saving all my disappointment for the convicted felon, rapist and insurrectionist being sworn in on January 20th.

In my best church lady voice..."well isn't that special..."😇

[tres bien]

I stopped watching my one hour of news per day on Sunday.

If the world ends I guess I won’t know about it 

Leading up to the election I was so looking forward to the inauguration but we are going to be out of the country on 1/20 so I hoped I could watch it on my phone (probably not in real time but still excited and proud to witness history)

Since November 5th I’m glad I’m going to be many miles and time zones away. I may have to rethink this space to because I’ m not going to come for the discourse of few people who got what they wanted but think it’s cool to show up to stir the pot

Right after the election we were in Spain and chatted with a couple (about our same age) who were very knowledgeable about American politics and the election. They were basically “how could America do this “ yeah I said how could they. 
 

[Anela]

I don’t even know what Biden has done that’s supposedly so wrong.  He didn’t send anyone to hurt his VP, and stop the certification. There’s a reason that trump had to select a new VP candidate   
 

 

 

7 hours ago, Yeah No said:

All I want is for what I write to be treated with respect like anyone else here. If I keep replying with posts it's because I'm not going to take that kind of disrespect without standing up for myself.

Same.  I also know that it can hurt when several people disagree with you.  I have a response, but I’m not going to get into it again, because it pales in comparison to the behaviour we get from a lot of trump supporters, online, and out in the wild.  

[Anela]

16 hours ago, Dimity said:

Quoting this here, because I follow a young woman whose business is making tiny weapons, that look like cute little animals or objects.  The day after the election, she said she was overwhelmed with orders for them. 😔 because a lot of men seem to think they won’t need consent, after January 20th.  

https://x.com/Alythuh/status/1854591348269367761

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I make self defense weapons In the last 2 days, we hit record breaking numbers in sales bc of our stun guns & emergency alarms this is not a coincidence after the election. women are SCARED bc of shit like this. Im scared of the wave of men dismissive to a woman’s autonomy https://

And this is the thing in a person suit, that she was quoting:

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https://x.com/MillerStream/status/1854247807735214298

women threatening sex strikes like LMAO as if you have a say

As you can see, Adrian/President Musk, didn’t boot him off twitter.  

Edited 22 hours ago by Anela

[Yeah No]

17 minutes ago, Anela said:

Same.  I also know that it can hurt when several people disagree with you. 

i don't mind being disagreed with by anyone as long as it's done with respect. I do mind having my posts picked apart, my words twisted and things put in my mouth that I never said. There is zero effort being made by people that do this to listen to what I'm really saying, let alone treat me with respect, and no effort by me to explain myself is accepted. I'm just treated like some annoying crank that won't let it rest when they're the ones that came after ME. And they just won't leave me alone! They just continue to beat me up over it. On other chat boards that behavior wouldn't be tolerated. But on this thread for some reason it's not only tolerated but celebrated by many posters, and that I cannot get behind, not to mention how mean, hurtful and unfair it is. So if anyone wants to know why some people here don't feel welcome, well this is MY reason, and likely the reason of at least a few others as well.

And note that I have been on this chat board in one form or another since 2014 and have only felt this way on rare occasions. I have been on many contentious threads and have been disagreed with MANY times but I haven't felt as bad about them. So I am not going to own that this is somehow MY problem. The level of disrespect here for opposing opinions is in MY opinion unacceptable. Granted, it's only coming from a few people, and that's a shame. For the most part I have found this thread and the people here very decent and respectful. And again, I tend to agree with the vast majority of what is posted here.

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, Anela said:

I don’t even know what Biden has done that’s supposedly so wrong.  He didn’t send anyone to hurt his VP, and stop the certification. There’s a reason that trump had to select a new VP candidate   
 

 

Come now the man did raise the amount you get on Social Security, gave out the Medal of Freedom to Michael J. Fox, sent arms to Ukraine, commuted death sentences...he's a monster.

[Annber03]

5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

And that's unfortunate because the Rep party (in and of itself) did NOT do this. A bunch of people (like all gangs that gather over the internet) decided what they were going to do. It was NOT the entire Rep party.

There are crazy people in all walks of life, not just affiliated political parties. In the same way that I'm not going to hate all Dems for some of their lousy choices, you should not hate all Reps solely for the ones that stormed the Capitol. THEY are the ones who decided that course of action.

You know what's hilarious? The fact that most Dems don't have a clue how Obama actually started dividing people with some of his choices. In fact, his last interference actually cost his party the election! Now that's ironic, isn't it? 😉

No, I genuinely don't understand what Obama did that "divided" people. 

Let's just be real, we all know why the right really wants "a break" from Obama, and why they call him "divisive", and it has zip to do with his actual policies. 

And yes, I do get to despise the entire GOP as a whole, because they actively helped to encouarge and push the big lie that led to the storming of the Capitol. There were very few Republlicans that dared to cross Trump and try and hold him accountable for the events of January 6th, and those that did, like Cheney and Kinzinger, were censured and had to deal with threats from Trump supporters and were not backed up by their party.

So yeah. Fuck the GOP for not coming out against Trump en masse like they should've, and for bending over backwards to continue to hitch their wagons to him and his toxic policies. 

5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Honestly, no...I don't understand that cause of stress & anxiety because the new administration hasn't even begun yet!!

Instead of stressing out beforehand, you all should be disappointed in Biden's recent behavior and how over the last few weeks he's been spiting Reps by doing everything in his power to sabotage the incoming president. You all know what those spiteful things are, so I won't be tedious and repeat them here.

I'm sorry that certain things might affect you, but the majority of voters have been affected by everything that Biden has done during his term, and they voiced that opinion at the polls.

Again, Reps didn't have a "safe space" here to whine about our fears & anxiety. And guess what? We ALL survived the last 4 years! As will all of you who will survive the next 4 years. 

 

"I'm sorry that certain things might affect you" - yeah, that's a real nice thing to say to someone whose sister might be affected by the end of the ACA and whose health issues might be exacerbated by that. You'll partdon me if I find that a little more serious a concern than whatever perceived stress Biden supposedly brought to Trump supporters. They think BIden's screwing them over because they listened to too many right wing outlets that told them that's what was happening. The facts speak otherwise. 

And indeed, Trump's new adminstration hasn't happened yet. But see, that's the thing about letting someone who's already been in office once before back in- we have their past efforts to go off of and judge from. And we already saw the first time around how shitty a president Trump was. We also have seen all the efforts the GOP has made to try and strip LGBTQ+ people of thei rrights, and all the abortion bans that have taken effect in red states. It's because of Trump's Supreme Court picks that the court wound up leaning conservative enough for Roe to be overturned, remember? 

Also, the GOP has literally laid out thier plans for what they want for this country with their Project 2025 nonsesne. Hopefully they won't be able to put much, if any, of it into action, but jsut the fact such a plan exists, and the stuff they want to achieve listed in it, is terrifying. 

Also, I must've missed what the hell Biden's been doing to "sabotage" the incoming adminsitration? Unlike Turmp, Biden's not a petty child. 

[Kemper]

Here is my way of dealing with people I don't agree with on PrimeTimer. If I don't like someone's post, if it angers me or makes me feel defensive - and it happens -I just don't click on any of the Like, Love, Anger Face, etc. Or quote and comment.  Not  because it doesn't make me feel defensive,  not because I don't want to write a reply. But because....

I just found this thread and love it; it is because I am afraid that the mods will close it down if we start going back and forth with one another. 

On another note. I saw this morning where Zuckerberg (sp?) has bent another knee to Trump. He is removing the safeguards that were in place to stop hate speech, violence, etc. I think he remarked that those were originally put in place due to previous administrations. Or some such. I wish there was an emoji for Douchebag. Although calling Z that is an insult to douchebags everywhere. 

[Dimity]

3 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

 

Also, I must've missed what the hell Biden's been doing to "sabotage" the incoming adminsitration? Unlike Turmp, Biden's not a petty child. 

Well he did make it harder for Trump to go on a killing spree with federal prisoners. A dashed dream.

[Ohiopirate02]

12 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Well he did make it harder for Trump to go on a killing spree with federal prisoners. A dashed dream.

He also made it harder for Trump to authorize more offshore drilling.

[tres bien]

I have been on this site since it was previouslytv. I do fear that the mod will shut this board down if it gets too contentious. They’ve done it before.

OH CANADA🇨🇦 Yesterday Doug Ford said he was joking when he offered Trump a counter offer. Canada will buy Alaska and Minnesota and throw in Minneapolis. 
Joking? Darn it! As a Minnesotan I’m all all in 😆

 

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, tres bien said:

I have been on this site since it was previouslytv. I do fear that the mod will shut this board down if it gets too contentious. They’ve done it before.

OH CANADA🇨🇦 Yesterday Doug Ford said he was joking when he offered Trump a counter offer. Canada will buy Alaska and Minnesota and throw in Minneapolis. 
Joking? Darn it! As a Minnesotan I’m all all in 😆

 

Throw in Hawaii and you'll get a lot of Canadians on board!!!

[Macbeth1966]

9 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

Like I said before . . . Obama delivered an impassioned speech the day before he left office. His Orangeness (or his handlers) is no doubt holding the rally in order to undercut any farewell messages Biden might deliver.

Depressing question: did The Village People sign off on “YMCA” being used in that way? Not like the MAGA faithful are aware of the homoerotic overtones, of course. 🙄

YMCA was written by Jacques Morali, who died in 1991, and Victor Willis, Founding member and singer of YMCA.  

Victor Willis is now 73 years old. He did decide to allow Trump to use the song this past October stating it was good for business.

I am not buying his explanation.  He is a black, gay man - I can only imagine the threats he was getting from Trump's supporters.

I believe that given his age he doesn't want to contend with Trump's supporters. So I don't have any problems with what he did.

 

Edited 19 hours ago by Macbeth1966

[Yeah No]

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Instead of stressing out beforehand, you all should be disappointed in Biden's recent behavior and how over the last few weeks he's been spiting Reps by doing everything in his power to sabotage the incoming president. You all know what those spiteful things are, so I won't be tedious and repeat them here.

I honestly don't know what those things are. Can you elaborate for me? I have been seeing what he's done so far as protecting people from what Trump has publicly promised to do to them once in office. I'm specifically referring to pardoning his son and several death row inmates. I have not been seeing those things in the context of spite and sabotage.

[Dimity]

47 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

I honestly don't know what those things are. Can you elaborate for me? I have been seeing what he's done so far as protecting people from what Trump has publicly promised to do to them once in office. I'm specifically referring to pardoning his son and several death row inmates. I have not been seeing those things in the context of spite and sabotage.

You can't see what isn't there. Bottom line is unlike when Trump lost there has been a smooth transition of power in place and only the petulant toddler would believe otherwise. Which, of course, he does.

Edited 20 hours ago by Dimity

[bluegirl147]

58 minutes ago, Kemper said:

On another note. I saw this morning where Zuckerberg (sp?) has bent another knee to Trump. He is removing the safeguards that were in place to stop hate speech, violence, etc. I think he remarked that those were originally put in place due to previous administrations. Or some such. I wish there was an emoji for Douchebag. Although calling Z that is an insult to douchebags everywhere. 

He also said the fact checking had become too politically biased. Well that is what happens when one political party lies all the time.

28 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

I have been seeing what he's done so far as protecting people from what Trump has publicly promised to do to them once in office

That is more than enough to enrage Trump and have him call it not making it a smooth transition. Trump always expects everyone to roll over for him.

 

[Dimity]

3 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Trump always expects everyone to roll over for him.

He also has a track record of accusing others of things he himself has done.  And setting up obstacles for the incoming president was something he excelled at.  It was only after the spectacular failure of his mob to stop the certification of the election that he reluctantly allowed for any transitions - smooth it never was.

[Yeah No]

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

You can t see what isn't there. Bottom line is unlike when Trump lost there has been a smooth transition of power in place and only the petulant toddler would believe otherwise. Which, of course, he does.

Yes, and I think a much greater case can be made for Trump being motivated by spite and sabotage of Democrats in general. It can all be substantiated by what's come out of his own mouth going back years now. What do we think the whole "drain the swamp" thing was all about? He has built his whole career around grievance politics, grudges and hatred for his "opposition". I see no such evidence to accuse Biden of that. He has come out late in the game with some condemnation of Trump but after how many years of just taking it and "taking the high road"? I don't blame Biden one bit for it. Trump deserves that and more from him considering what he's endured. And everything Biden does can ultimately be traced to being motivated by his political beliefs and principles, not getting even with political parties and people on hate lists. In fact the major reason he pardoned his son is because he believed that he was being made a scapegoat unfairly just to get his dad's goat. And there is evidence to show that this was in fact the case. Who would have given a rat's ass what Hunter did if not for him being Biden's son? He certainly wouldn't have been dragged through the mud like he was. It was more than obvious that Hunter was singled out because they couldn't find anything on Joe to hurt him. 

I know that Republicans believe that the cases against Trump were motivated by politics, but come ON, the guy was found guilty of a things that are pretty undeniable and illegal, especially for a president. Hunter Biden was never a president and his transgressions were relatively minor by comparison. Even if there were a spite aspect to going after Trump, there was much more meat there to substantiate it on its own.

[bluegirl147]

3 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

Yes, and I think a much greater case can be made for Trump being motivated by spite and sabotage of Democrats in general.

That has been his modus operandi since he starting running for President.  He demonizes anyone who doesn't support him.  And it's not just policy issues. He thinks they are his enemies.  He tells his MAGA base they are enemies of them and their way of life and blah blah blah but what he really means is they are his enemy and he will do whatever he can to destroy him. 

[tres bien]

If you’re keeping track. Today Donnie Jr is in Greenland on a personal day trip after daddy sent there on Trump Force One.

On Monday daddy posted on his social media that “that the people of Greenland will benefit tremendously if and when it becomes part of our nation.  Make Greenland Great Again!”

First of all this bullshit bullying of sovereign nations is fucked up and is this part of his big plans for the next four years?

Second someone call Puerto Rico.I want to know how it worked out for them last time 

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, tres bien said:

Second someone call Puerto Rico.I want to know how it worked out for them last time 

If we're super lucky the next time we have a major weather catastrophe here in Canada maybe Don the Con will throw some rolls of paper towels our way.  Fingers crossed!