Chit-Chat: The Feels

[bluegirl147]

28 minutes ago, Milk-Eyed Mender said:

If only we had some way to protect the rest of us from the Jesus people.

ETA: okay, that was unkind of me, but the current administration's race to reinvent the US as a christofascist state, with shocking success, should, frankly, be receiving much more attention. The First Amendment is going the way of the dinosaur.

 

What they really want is an olicharchy.  They are just using christofacism as a way to get that.

[Milk-Eyed Mender]

30 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

What they really want is an olicharchy.  They are just using christofacism as a way to get that.

Fair enough and of no comfort at all. 

[Cementhead]

Deleted. 

Oops.  Sorry.  Nothing to see here.  I posted something without fact checking it first. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Cementhead

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, lookeyloo said:

I am too old to have gotten a lot of vaccines but do remember the polio shot and the pink drop in a sugar cube I got at around 21. My children and grandchildren have gotten all recommended vaccines. Even "the jab". 

And this is a point that idiots like MTG and RFK Jr. ignore.  Illnesses like the measles don't just affect children.  Even if it were true that it's a mild disease and something that kids will shake off in a few days (it's not but these details never affect them) it's also true that so called childhood diseases in adults can be devastating.  Many adult over a certain age are very unlikely to have been vaccinated.  I guess this will be just another Covid thing where the Republicans will see this as a way to 'thin the herd'. 

[Dimity]

Among many reasons why it's easy to see why Musk and Trump are best buds, it is increasingly clear that Musk is as big a liar as Trump is (shocking I know!):

South Africa rejects Musk claim Starlink can't operate there because he's not Black

South Africa on Friday rejected a claim by multibillionaire Elon Musk that his Starlink satellite company could not operate in the country because he is not Black, and its telecoms regulator said Starlink had not applied for a licence.

In his latest rebuke of the country where he was born and went to school, Musk wrote on X, which he also owns: "Starlink is not allowed to operate in South Africa, because I'm not black".

Clayson Monyela, a senior official at the foreign affairs department, responded emphatically on the social media platform.

"Sir, that's NOT true & you know it! It's got nothing to do with your skin colour. Starlink is welcome to operate in South Africa provided there's compliance with local laws," Monyela wrote. "This is a global international trade & investment principle."

[supposebly]

I had the measles in Germany mid-late 1970s when there wasn't a vaccine yet. Me and half of my 2nd grade. I remember being sick for about 2 weeks, infecting my little siblings who were 1 and 1.5 years old (my 1.5 year old brother almost died because he had such a high fever for so long).

During those 2 weeks, my friend brought me homework and then the other half of second grade in my small town school got sick, and it was our turn to bring them homework. I don't remember if it spread through the whole school but all things considered, I'd be surprised if it hadn't. 

A year before that, I almost killed my little brother when he was less than 6 months old, when I got the mumps and infected my mother and him. He always got such high fevers when he got sick with anything.

Luckily, I had chicken pox before my siblings were born.

Again, no vaccines for this stuff back then, so no choice but to hope for the best.

So, yes, we had a measles party. And a mumps party. Unintentionally. Parents who think it's a good idea to play with their children's health that way deserve what's coming. Unfortunately, their children don't. But then, a lot of people are just not qualified to raise children.

This is not new. Current parents just need to listen to their elders who might have been around during the times when there were no vaccines.

Edited 1 hour ago by supposebly

[tres bien]

Also worth noting that the democrats elected two black female senators in 2025

True or not I’m convinced if you’re MAGA nothing matters everything is acceptable. See Lauren Bobert 

[Yeah No]

8 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

They might also consider the most qualified.

I don't know if a lot of otherwise non-racist Republicans realize that arguments like this are used by the racists among them (i.e. Trump himself) to hide their racism behind the guise of "fairness" and "colorblindness". I mean, who doesn't want things to be fair and candidates to be qualified, right? But in reality they're using this argument to make non-racist white Republicans think that Democrats are the "unfair" ones for nominating "unqualified" black people "just because they're black", when meanwhile that's not even the case. What better way for them to make white people think they have a grievance over Democrats not being "fair" to them? This is one of the reasons my husband backed away from the Republican party. He felt duped and used by stuff like this.

And once again this is another example of how everything Republicans try to pin on Democrats is really true of themselves. They try to act like Democrats are the "real" racists and favor non-whites meanwhile they are hiding their own racism toward non-whites in the process! 

[bluegirl147]

 

 

5 minutes ago, supposebly said:

 

So, yes, we had a measles party. And a mumps party. Unintentionally. Parents who think it's a good idea to play with their children's health that way deserve what's coming. Unfortunately, their children don't. But then, a lot of people are just not qualified to raise children.

This not new. Current parents just need to listen to their elders who might have been around during the times when there were no vaccines.

 

Whenever I hear about measles parties or back in the chicken pox parties I always think did anyone ask the kids if they want to go.  Sorry not sorry but exposing your children to an infectious disease is not good parenting IMO.

 

 

[ProudMary]

9 hours ago, Yeah No said:

I know I've pointed this out a few times already but let's not forget that Hillary Clinton technically won the popular vote in 2016 by almost 3 million votes so that may not be entirely true.

Correct. Her electoral college loss was caused by a ~70,000 vote defecit across three states: Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. 

Remember that litany of Republican voter suppression methods I posted upthread? Yeah, there was another huge one: Cambridge Analytica--The Mercers, Jared Kushner and Facebook. This is where Big Data came in, not to mention using the same methods in the UK, insuring a win for Brexit just a few months later. In the US, using CA's stolen data info, the RNC was able to pinpoint mainly Black male voters and bombard them on their individual FB pages with anti-Clinton propaganda. They had this targeted down to specific streets in specific districts in urban areas in MI, WI and PA. 

[bluegirl147]

4 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

 

And once again this is another example of how everything Republicans try to pin on Democrats is really true of themselves. They try to act like Democrats are the "real" racists and favor non-whites meanwhile they are hiding their own racism toward non-whites in the process! 

I only need to read the comments on my local news channel's FB to know the Republicans in my area suffer from projection. Everything and I do mean everything they say about Democrats is true of Republicans.  They think Democrats have suppressed the vote.  They think Democrats want a civil war.  And when inflation skyrockets they will blame Democrats.

[tres bien]

It’s more than the racism with MAGA. I don’t see why all of that’s not true of the LGBTQ community too

It’s ok to identify as transgender if you’re a MAGA. See Caitlyn Jenner

Edited 52 minutes ago by tres bien

[bluegirl147]

3 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

 

Remember that litany of Republican voter suppression methods I posted upthread? Yeah, there was another huge one: Cambridge Analytica--The Mercers, Jared Kushner and Facebook. This is where Big Data came in, not to mention using the same methods in the UK, insuring a win for Brexit just a few months later. In the US, using CA's stolen data info, the RNC was able to pinpoint mainly Black male voters and bombard them on their individual FB pages with anti-Clinton propaganda. They had this targeted down to specific streets in specific districts in urban areas in MI, WI and PA. 

Isn't it ironic that the party who is anti science and anti intellect has profited so much from science and intellect?

3 minutes ago, tres bien said:

It’s more than the racism with MAGA. I don’t see why all of that’s not true of the LGBTQ community too

It’s ok to identify as transgender if you’re a MAGA. See Caitlyn Jenner

That is because Jenner still thinks like a rich white man.  She is still a Republican. If she had switched parties and came out in support of Kamala Harris she would be shunned by Republicans.

[Avaleigh]

1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

I think what Soapy and some other Republicans object to is thinking that Democrats nominate someone black just because they're black and their qualifications are secondary. But that's overwhelmingly not the case if you really look at the person's qualifications, and where Wes Moore is concerned that should be more than obvious. It's sad that we even have to think twice before nominating a black person. It should happen anyway. But for now it probably has to be a conscious choice to do so otherwise it wouldn't happen even when it should. And that fact doesn't automatically mean that they aren't more than qualified for the job. 

And besides, how many white people have been nominated and WON elections that weren't "the most qualified" candidate? Since when should that even matter to Republicans when Trump can get elected. If his "qualifications" mattered to those who voted for him, he never would have been elected!

Yeah, "most qualified" arguments don't seem to come into the conversation from right wing supporters when it's people like Trump, Cavanagh, Hegseth, etc. I wonder why?

Regarding your first point, from a basic fairness perspective, it seems like it's a mistake to make a declaration that you want to appoint/nominate the first [fill in the blank minority] candidate for whichever position. If you acknowledge that you aren't even going to consider other candidates, including other minorities, then there's no way of knowing whether or not you'll choose the "most qualified" candidate. You'll get a qualified candidate, yes, but to get the "most qualified" you will only know if the search is open to every qualified candidate.

It's better to acknowledge that you'll consider everyone who could do the job and then consider the diversity part. At the end of the day, there are so many marginalized groups that it won't be difficult to meet DEI goals without having to declare that other marginalized groups aren't even in the race because the decider feels for whatever reason that it wants to focus on one particular group. You can be fair and still make history. JMO.

[Dimity]

39 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

And once again this is another example of how everything Republicans try to pin on Democrats is really true of themselves. They try to act like Democrats are the "real" racists and favor non-whites meanwhile they are hiding their own racism toward non-whites in the process! 

Look no further than the richest man in the world lying about being discriminated against with regard to Starlink and South Africa.  Republicans are so desperate to portray themselves as the victims - even when it is so demonstrably false.  And meanwhile the MAGA and the Church of Perpetual Grievance eat it up.

[ProudMary]

This sums it up nicely.

 

[bluegirl147]

With this country so divided we aren't really choosing people that are the most qualified.  We are choosing who we think can win.  

[Dimity]

Who is Charles Barkley and why does he think Canadians give a damn what he thinks?