S21:E09: The Men Tell All

[JenE4]

Taking wagers on how many times Sam says, “Keep the main thing the main thing.”

[Stats Queen]

Just now, JenE4 said:

Taking wagers on how many times Sam says, “Keep the main thing the main thing.”

Hopefully his time with be short, so I’m going for 6.

[dizzyd]

So far looks like positive feedback on Grant. 

At this point, John John is looking the best of the 3.

This whole season feels like a bunch of red flags.

[Kendra143]

My channel for this is black - WTF?

[JenE4]

I can’t believe Jenn told Devin she’s in love with him!! I guess his ploy worked. But she also said she loved Marcus. Though she said it multiple times to Devin, including “I love you more.” Well, I guess Jonathan is going home.

[dizzyd]

Looks like the one with least drama and insecurities goes home. Jenn following her past trends expecting different results again.

[DEL901]

3 minutes ago, dizzyd said:

Looks like the one with least drama and insecurities goes home. Jenn following her past trends expecting different results again.

One of things is not like the other.  Sorry J, time to go. 

[JenE4]

Okay, the cameraman finally found Jonathan’s angle. Extreme close-up shot from slightly below on his right side—he looked handsome. Alas, like his newfound feelings found on the pool lounge chairs, it was too late.

[atomic]

Jenn has the absolute worst picker. Sent home the best guy left over Marcus who was all but begging to be eliminated. 

[Stats Queen]

Well Aaron thinks he’s so mature but his actions say otherwise.

What a jerk. Still wearing his pearls.

Go Spencer!!!!!!

Hakeem’s facial expressions and Brett’s humor. Sitting them next to each other.

Edited August 28 by Stats Queen

[Diana Berry]

Wow Jonathan is so drama free he didn’t even get the sit down interview with Jesse.

 

 

[dizzyd]

1 minute ago, Diana Berry said:

Wow Jonathan is so drama free he didn’t even get the sit down interview with Jesse.

I think it’s later when Jenn shows up.

Ah, Sam of the limited vocabulary and sensitivity and relying on just make out sessions. The touch love language.

Si much playback. This could have been cut down to 1h.

[Diana Berry]

3 minutes ago, dizzyd said:

I think it’s later when Jenn shows up.

Ah, Sam of the limited vocabulary and sensitivity and relying on just make out sessions. The touch love language.

Forgot she’s coming on…you’re right.

Sam I am . No Hawaii trip. No Bachelor.

[DEL901]

Anyone who keeps saying “truthfully” isn’t being truthful.  

[JenE4]

I feel like Sam may have gotten some media training. He expressed himself more clearly and calmly than we’ve ever seen him—even in the face of most of the guys jumping on him for his main thing and various meaningless catch phrases.

[dizzyd]

I think Jenn wants a fixer upper, someone who needs her to validate them. So who’s the bigger fixer upper, Devin or Marcus?

[DumbDucks]

4 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

I feel like Sam may have gotten some media training. He expressed himself more clearly and calmly than we’ve ever seen him—even in the face of most of the guys jumping on him for his main thing and various meaningless catch phrases.

He still came off as full off 💩 to me! 

[dizzyd]

So paradise is back next year!

[Crashcourse]

Looks like Jonathon had a little work done on his nose.

[atomic]

Ok, I couldn't care less about this Mormon swinger show, but Hakeem's reactions are pure gold. 😂

[JenE4]

Hakeem’s face watching that Mormon Moms show was all the commercial they need! They were losing me with the Tik Tok dances but won me over with the swinging scandal. I’m in!

9 minutes ago, DumbDucks said:

He still came off as full off 💩 to me! 

Well, of course! That goes without saying! 😂 I just mean someone gave him a script to follow that sounded better than anything he would have come up with on his own.

8 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

Looks like Jonathon had a little work done on his nose.

I was thinking he had a nose job, too.

[DEL901]

See, Sam.  Grant can talk about why he loved Jenn.   

Take notes.

[dizzyd]

Oh great, do the daddy issues are getting carried over to Grant’s season. But I’m liking him so far seeing as I didn’t watch much of him before this. I like that he’s working on his emotional intelligence.

[Diana Berry]

Ok the anonymous grant seems like a nice guy.  Looking forward to his season.

[JenE4]

I didn’t really even remember much about Grant when they announced him. But putting basically all of his camera time together in one montage, he seems like a solidly decent dude. No complaints from me (unlike when they chose Jen; still not over her non-reaction to the synchronized drone display).

[Diana Berry]

So who will join Jonathon in BIP? Spencer, Jeremy, Hakeem, Dark haired Sam, Drama king Sam. Please no Pearls, and Thomas.

wouldn’t they start filming now for next summer? 

Edited August 28 by Diana Berry

[JenE4]

Just now, Diana Berry said:

So who will join Jonathon in BIP? Spencer, Jeremy, Hakeem, Dark haired Sam, Drama king Sam.

wouldn’t they start filming now for next summer? 

I think they normally film in the spring and then the show typically starts airing late August or early September. Though Golden Bachelor/ette seems to be screwing up the typical schedule, so who knows.

[DEL901]

Go Jenn!   

[dizzyd]

Kudos to Jenn for telling Sam and calling him out on all his shit.

[DumbDucks]

OK, points to Jen for reading Sam for filth.

[sundaytunes]

jenn surprised me tonight, didn't think she had it in her!

[atomic]

So sweet that Jonathon remembered all her dresses. Jenn really did fumble the bag with him.

[JenE4]

I told you guys Sam got media training! Lol. After listening to that tirade, he thanks Jen and vows to do better. He probably cursed everyone out backstage as soon as filming wrapped but pretended to hold it together. 

[dizzyd]

1 minute ago, sundaytunes said:

jenn surprised me tonight, didn't think she had it in her!

I’m sure she was coached but still she delivered.

[JenE4]

Jen is keeping the main thing (herself) the main thing (in the spotlight). She’s breaking stereotypes by being a party-girl…apparently??

[Diana Berry]

13 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

I told you guys Sam got media training! Lol. After listening to that tirade, he thanks Jen and vows to do better. He probably cursed everyone out backstage as soon as filming wrapped but pretended to hold it together. 

You can tell he’s having to really rein it in.   
 

where is the dude with the beard? Guess he was a no show.

[DEL901]

I love Hakeem.   
 

And I wonder is Sam is pissed he didn’t get invited to Paradise.  Of course, filming is almost a year away so no guarantees that early invitees will still be single.  

[JenE4]

Poor Hakeem. This man really was the breakout star of this episode.

[JenE4]

Alright, my guess is she’s choosing Marcus to date, knowing he’s not ready to get engaged. 

[dizzyd]

Idk why they’re forced to get engaged. Paradise doesn’t and it has a better track record of success. None of the other countries in the franchise do. 

[Stats Queen]

11 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

Alright, my guess is she’s choosing Marcus to date, knowing he’s not ready to get engaged. 

That’s what I’m thinking also.

Man, she really screwed up letting Jonathan, the emotionally available one go.

[DEL901]

19 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

Alright, my guess is she’s choosing Marcus to date, knowing he’s not ready to get engaged. 

My guess is that she proposes to Devin to show him he isn’t second choice.  

[Diana Berry]

30 minutes ago, DEL901 said:

My guess is that she proposes to Devin to show him he isn’t second choice.  

My thought exactly!

[Madding crowd]

I agree with the above. Besides, if Jen doesn’t pick someone she will be cut off from free trips, giving advice on BIP and other shows, interviews, Dancing With The Stars etc. I do think she and Devin could work and he really cares about her. Not sure how honest Marcus is being.

[DumbDucks]

What would make this season's finale interesting like they claim - Jen realizes she let the wrong guy go and knocks at Jonathon's door and they get engaged. Would explain why they didn't sit together on the Couch of Despair last night. Hey, I can hope for a season redemption.

[Hip-to-be-Square]

I think that Grant is a little too smooth- he seems like he's saying all of the right things or reciting lines from a rom-com🤔.

Edited August 29 by Hip-to-be-Square

[sauce62]

12 hours ago, Hip-to-be-Square said:

I think that Grant is a little too smooth- he seems like he's saying all of the right things or reciting lines from a rom-com🤔.

He doesn't strike me as very bright, or interesting.

[ECM1231]

12 hours ago, Hip-to-be-Square said:

I think that Grant is a little too smooth- he seems like he's saying all of the right things or reciting lines from a rom-com🤔.

I got that same feeling each time we saw Grant's interactions/ conversations with Jenn. He's nice eye candy, though. 😍

[Hip-to-be-Square]

3 hours ago, sauce62 said:

He doesn't strike me as very bright, or interesting.

Yep, he's not that interesting or bright to me and I think he's a little too slick with his words. I'm not a fan of tattoos on a guy, and Grant has way too many tattoos. Austin is a beefy, hunk with zero tattoos and he didn't seem to have a tragic backstory-he would've been my pick for The Bachelor and hopefully I'll see him on Bachelor in Paradise. 😘🙌

2 hours ago, ECM1231 said:

I got that same feeling each time we saw Grant's interactions/ conversations with Jenn. He's nice eye candy, though. 😍

Yep, almost all of the guys were dishing out rom-com quotes when talking to Jenn. Color me jaded, but as a single 35-year-old lady going through the dating apps, men do not fall this hard this fast or even talk this way-- and I'm a great catch! 😄💅💯  Grant has a nice smile and he's a good-looking guy- I'll watch his season, but I have my guard up! 😅

Edited August 29 by Hip-to-be-Square

[Alexander Pope]

I am really unclear as to why they picked Grant and not Jonathon for Bach?  They haven't started filming yet?  I agree that he seems kind of dull and we know very little about him.  Why the rush?