Season 02

[CheshireCat]

Solid premiere. I like that Scott knows the new liason. That makes it easier because the team is not suspicious of her and she doesn't have to prove herself.

I appreciated that the French were welcoming and not territorial or hostile as many of the foreign police tend to be on that show. That was a nice change.

[Xeliou66]

Yeah this was a decent premiere, interesting enough case, and I also liked how the French authorities weren’t hostile and there wasn’t a territorial pissing match between Forrester’s team and the locals. I’m not sure about the new liaison, I miss Jaeger, I hope they don’t try to make the new liaison a love interest for Forrester, I’m afraid they’ll do that.

[CheshireCat]

1 hour ago, Xeliou66 said:

 I’m not sure about the new liaison, I miss Jaeger, I hope they don’t try to make the new liaison a love interest for Forrester, I’m afraid they’ll do that.

Either that or they're going the love-triangle route with Jamie. I liked the way the conversations were written and acted here, there seemed more interest than jealousy and the fact that Scott knows her makes it easier to introduce her to us. But just because there's no jealousy now doesn't mean there won't be later.

I also wish they would have kept Jaeger. Was it me or was Jaeger not as much in the field and more in the background, doing the actual liasing between the FBI and the locals?

[CheshireCat]

4 hours ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

Am giving this show another chance as am so sick of watching Dylan McDermott in FMW. I’d rather watch Scott Forrester than Remy Scott.

Most Wanted is the only FBI I don't watch. It's a bit too gruesome/violent for my taste. At least the episodes that I watched were that way.

International could tone down the shootings, too, if you ask me but it's still less brutal.

[Maverick]

 I liked Jaeger as well and don't understand why they did that whole plot about her being fired, only to swoop in and have her turn the tables on her boss if they were just going to write her off anyway.  Seeing her replacement, I have to wonder if they changed the character so they could drop in someone with an English accent vs. a German one.

 What was the deal with Scott's mom at the beginning?  The last I remember Scott was supposed to lure her into a trap but he warned off.   At least some of the scenes in that montage were new so was this supposed to be ending that plot thread?

[JPPT1974]

Really think that Jaeger was meant for just one season but really kind of warmed up to the new Europol agent. As really what I like about Jaeger is she would call the team in particular Scott out on his arrogance at times. Not be afraid to do so when others would. Hope that the new agent will do just that and not make her a love interest.

[Snazzy Daisy]

On 9/23/2022 at 11:03 AM, CheshireCat said:

Most Wanted is the only FBI I don't watch. It's a bit too gruesome/violent for my taste. At least the episodes that I watched were that way.

Started watching FMW because of Julian McMahon and I like its darker tone. Its high casts turnover rate and the new lead that really turn me off. “Leaving for creative reasons” sounds fishy when there’s no new project in line.

Other than Katrin and Tank, I really like Vo in F/International, hope she stays.

Edited September 24, 2022 by SnazzyDaisy

[CheshireCat]

23 minutes ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

Started watching FMW because of Julian McMahon and I like it’s darker tone.

Yeah, he's why I had a look :-)

23 minutes ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

Its high casts turnover rate and the new lead that really turn me off. “Leaving for creative reasons” sounds fishy when there’s no new project in line.

I always took "creative reasons" to mean that the actor and showrunners had a different vision of where the character was going and/or the show in general.

[threebluestars]

I was so sure we were going to get some kind of reveal that the teen girl was in on something and the mom was right in some way, so colour me surprised that they didn't go there. A twist that wasn't surprised me lol.

[mythoughtis]

Given the fact that the new Interpol  agent is now aware of the relationship between Forrester and Jamie and still wants to be apartment mates with her, I think there’s not going to be a love triangle.  Thank goodness!  
There is  something different about Forrester  this season? Thinner?  Beard is different?  

[Maverick]

 His hair is longer.

[MerBearHou]

12 hours ago, Maverick said:

 His hair is longer.

I think he looks better with this little longer hair.

[Maverick]

I agree. 

[Xeliou66]

This was a good episode - I didn’t see it coming that Brian would be the perp, I figured the victim’s in-laws did it. Interesting case and good investigation. I still miss Jaeger though, and I missed Vo as well tonight. And Smitty just isn’t that compelling to me, and I’m still worried about the possibility of a love triangle between Smitty/Forrester and Kellett.

I didn’t see last week’s episode because of hurricane coverage here in Florida, so who were the people with Forrester and Tank at the beginning and end? I was puzzled about that. Always nice to see Tank though.

[Snazzy Daisy]

S02•E03 - Money Is Meaningless

The accountant did it? 😱

I really thought the father in-law (or his goon) is the killer.

Nice take down Jamie Kellett. So much better than Kristin’s on FMW.

Tank doing the high five is the cutest thing ever! 😍

Is this the guy who’s hiding in the dog sitter’s house - Vladislav the Russian assassin? 🤨

Edited October 12, 2022 by SnazzyDaisy

[CheshireCat]

3 hours ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

I really thought the father in-law (or his goon) is the killer.

21 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

This was a good episode - I didn’t see it coming that Brian would be the perp, I figured the victim’s in-laws did it.

I thought the father-in-law was way too obvious. It was going to be either the husband or the accountant; the moment they introduced the accountant I wondered if it was him. He seemed way too unsuspicious and it was kind of a random character they introduced.

Nice twist though that it turned out to be Jamie who ended up being in real danger.

I thought that was a weird phone call between Smitty and Vo. Why did Smitty call her in the first place and especially during her time off and what was all this about it being all Smitty's fault? I felt like there was a huge chunk of backstory missing that would explain the entire call.

Solid case otherwise and I liked the ambiguity of how the agents viewed the actions of the Spanish police. They may have said one thing but it seemed more benefit of the doubt than being convinced of what they were saying.

[Maverick]

 The Smitty call to Vo made no sense.  Is Vo her therapist now?   Also didn't get who the kid and mom were.  Were they introduced last season?   It's about as confusing as that montage with Scott's mom in the premiere that I still haven't figured out what it was supposed to be about.   

[JPPT1974]

Think that they are going to involve Smitty more than Jaeger was involved as really still missed the latter but love the former as well.

[Xeliou66]

This episode was another one that was more of spy thriller than a crime story, and those episodes are not my favorites. I just found myself not caring at all about the whole plot to get the spy out of Turkey. And I’m still lost on who was with Forrester playing with Tank at the start of the episode - I missed episode 2 and I guess that’s when that plot was introduced. 

[Snazzy Daisy]

S02•E04 - Copper Pots and Daggers

The Fly Team is risking it all to rescue that spy but she doesn’t seem to be very grateful of it.

With all that happened, what if they need to work with Turkish police again in the near future?

Scott is suspicious of Zsolt’s dad and asks Jamie to run a full background check on him. What will Jamie discover? 🤨

[shrewd.buddha]

Happened to catch this past one - no longer watching regularly - and I felt sort of lost.

Is the US on bad terms with Turkey? Would any of the FBI team (or any FBI agent) not be arrested if they returned to the country?
I thought they were planning to use spy-like espionage tactics to get the woman out of jail.  Bu they were caught red-handed and ended up on the verge of a shoot-out ... but apparently the Turkish police don't have guns. 

They woman the FBI-I team rescued was an actual spy who, despite loving her 'adopted' family, had been lying to them.  And Forrester, who has major spy-mommy issues,  wants the boyfriend/partner to forgive and forget?!?

They did not exactly seem like the good guys in this one..  .. but I suppose the Turkish police were worse since they were corrupt and maybe Turkey needs to be spied on ...(?)

Edited October 12, 2022 by shrewd.buddha
grammar

[CheshireCat]

3 hours ago, shrewd.buddha said:

Is the US on bad terms with Turkey?

They're not on bad terms per se but the relationship is such that they'd arrest a spy, throw them in jail on false charges and the US would have to make serious concessions to get them back, if Turkey would give them back at all.

3 hours ago, shrewd.buddha said:

 Bu they were caught red-handed and ended up on the verge of a shoot-out ... but apparently the Turkish police don't have guns.

Most British police officers don't carry guns, so it's possible not everyone with the Turkish police is carrying guns.

3 hours ago, shrewd.buddha said:

They did not exactly seem like the good guys in this one..  .. but I suppose the Turkish police were worse since they were corrupt and maybe Turkey needs to be spied on ...(?)

If I were the US (or any European country), I'd definitely spy on Turkey.

[CheshireCat]

Overall, it was a good episode but there were a lot of plot holes in it/they took a lot of liberties.

At every airport I've been to, I was able to see my suitcase as soon as it came out of the x-ray tunnel and on the security footage you can see the partner watch the suitcases. So why didn't they see the officer remove it and/or get suspicious when he did and check the suitcase? And how was the security officer able to be sure that it was really her suitcase? She could just as well have had her partner's for whatever reason or they could have had two shared suitcases, like my parents always do.

I'm pretty sure the Turkish, just like many other Europeans, build stone homes. Don't ask me what the walls are made out of/how they're built, I just know they're not built out of wood and dry-wall.

Why is Forester briefing the partner in a public hotel space about a "need to know" subject and not in a secure room at the embassy? He could and should be fired for this. (Why aren't the partner and daughter at the embassy anyway? There is no guarantee that the police would not pick them up and use them as leverage. It's stupid to leave them at a hotel where they are exposed and not keep them at the embassy where they're out of reach for the Turkish authorities).

Emily can't be a very good spy if she meets her source in a public space with security cameras... That aside, why did Forester not think it necessary to inform Jamie that the police was likely moving in on the source?

Why did they not use embassy cars/cars with diplomatic plates to escape? I believe they'd be off-limits to Turkish law enforcement. At least, they wouldn't have been stopped for a traffic violation. 

Not a plot hole but still a question I have: who moves in with someone else and clears out the cupboard to put in their own stuff without discussing it with the other person first? Smitty didn't even ask what it was or if Jamie used it, she just moved Jamie's stuff out to put in hers. She's lucky she's not moving in with me because I would not have stood by without a word and let her do it. (Also, Smitty went straight to that cupboard and didn't open a wrong door first).

Jamie remarked about the many things Smitty had... didn't they talk about that beforehand?

[mythoughtis]

I didn’t like the episode.  Not at all realistic.  Pretty sure the FBI doesn’t get involved in breaking spies from foreign jails.  Wouldn’t that be the CIA?  
 

As to the partner- I would  turn my back on this woman in a heartbeat.  She brought him and his child to Turkey to spy.  She used them as cover  She put them both in danger.  It wasn’t just that she lied to him about everything ( he knew only her cover study, not her real one). For all he knows, she has a husband and a child in her ‘real’ life.  As in Joelle on NCIS:LA. 

If you want to be a spy, fine, be one.  Don’t intertwine that with being a step-mother to an innocent child in your cover persona. 

Edited October 14, 2022 by mythoughtis

[CheshireCat]

4 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

I didn’t like the episode.  Not at all realistic.  Pretty sure the FBI doesn’t get involved in breaking spies from foreign jails.  Wouldn’t that be the CIA?  

I wondered about that, too, but figured, maybe they didn't want to involve the CIA so that the authorities don't get suspicious?

The FBI team didn't know she was a spy, so I think they went there believing they'd be able to get her out the legal way.

4 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

If you want to be a spy, fine, be one.  Don’t intertwine that with being a step-mother to an innocent child in your cover persona. 

They said they had been in a relationship for 6 years. I don't know how long she's worked as a spy but I wasn't under the impression that she entered the relationship so she'd have a cover family and she said herself that one had nothing to do with the other.

That said, I do agree that she should not have taken her family to go on such a trip. If she wanted to make a family trip out of it, they should have gone to one of the neighboring countries and she should have met with the source somewhere along the border or in a town close to the border and it should have been a day trip.

[mythoughtis]

20 minutes ago, CheshireCat said:

I wondered about that, too, but figured, maybe they didn't want to involve the CIA so that the authorities don't get suspicious?

The FBI team didn't know she was a spy, so I think they went there believing they'd be able to get her out the legal way.

They said they had been in a relationship for 6 years. I don't know how long she's worked as a spy but I wasn't under the impression that she entered the relationship so she'd have a cover family and she said herself that one had nothing to do with the other.

That said, I do agree that she should not have taken her family to go on such a trip. If she wanted to make a family trip out of it, they should have gone to one of the neighboring countries and she should have met with the source somewhere along the border or in a town close to the border and it should have been a day trip.

Her partner knew her as the identity she was using as a spy, not her real identity.  In addition, she told Forrester she had been working to turn her contact for over 5 years.  Those two facts mean she was a spy before she started the relationship  with  the man and his child.   The character may think her personal and professional life have nothing to do with each other. Because she thinks that means her partner is innocent.  Her partner is innocent, but that doesn’t mean it was okay to develop a long term relationship  with a small child under false pretenses.  

Edited October 15, 2022 by mythoughtis

[cameron]

On 10/5/2022 at 5:09 PM, SnazzyDaisy said:

S02•E03 - Money Is Meaningless

The accountant did it? 😱

I really thought the father in-law (or his goon) is the killer.

Nice take down Jamie Kellett. So much better than Kristin’s on FMW.

Tank doing the high five is the cutest thing ever! 😍

Is this the guy who’s hiding in the dog sitter’s house - Vladislav the Russian assassin? 🤨

Who are those people with Tank?  Has he been retired from the FBI.

[Snazzy Daisy]

1 hour ago, cameron said:

Who are those people with Tank?  Has he been retired from the FBI.

Tank is still an active member of the Fly Team.

That boy, Zsolt the dog sitter and his mom, am guessing they are Scott's neighbour.

[cameron]

47 minutes ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

Tank is still an active member of the Fly Team.

That boy, Zsolt the dog sitter and his mom, am guessing they are Scott's neighbour.

Thanks.

[JPPT1974]

Yeah as really wished they would use Tank more often but that is just me. Really they are not letting Tank being active there. Need more Tank!

[Rickster]

On 10/14/2022 at 3:54 AM, CheshireCat said:

I'm pretty sure the Turkish, just like many other Europeans, build stone homes. Don't ask me what the walls are made out of/how they're built, I just know they're not built out of wood and dry-wall.

 Most homes in Europe are not made of solid stone, in fact a lot of people live in apartment buildings. I’d be pretty sure drywall and the older style plaster and lathe walls are common.

[CheshireCat]

7 hours ago, Rickster said:

 Most homes in Europe are not made of solid stone, in fact a lot of people live in apartment buildings. I’d be pretty sure drywall and the older style plaster and lathe walls are common.

Walls are definitely smooth, so it's possible there's plaster on the outside of walls to give them a smooth finish but I'm pretty sure the actual building material is some kind of concrete mixture.

Regardless, what I was trying to say is that walls are solid and there wouldn't be any empty spaces to hide something behind plaster or drywall (unless you carve out a space or you take out a brick if you have brick walls. I guess, it's possible that that's what the character did but given the history of the show, I think they simply assumed that European buildings are built like US buildings and didn't do any research).

[Xeliou66]

Good episode tonight - I couldn’t figure out what was going on for a while, good suspense. Much better than last week’s spy thriller stuff. I couldn’t figure out who was guilty of what and it had good investigation by everyone and everything made sense in the end.

[Snazzy Daisy]

S02•E05 - Yesterday’s Miracle

An interesting case with a predictable twist!

Great instinct Vo for not believing Cosmina. She should be charged for wasting police resources in searching for the baby’s body in the river.

The Palmers finally got their happy ending. ❤️

[Sandman]

No way does an FBI field office outside the U.S. get involved in extraction of intelligence agents, let alone such an extraction involving a jailbreak! The American agents depend on the goodwill of law enforcement in the host countries, and local law enforcement would never trust the FBI again. 

I kept thinking this was the most unrealistic episode yet. Just call it “Forester’s Eleven” and call it a day. 

Tank remains my favourite part of the show. 

Edited October 20, 2022 by Sandman
Tank!

[hookedontv]

On 10/19/2022 at 6:49 PM, SnazzyDaisy said:

S02•E05 - Yesterday’s Miracle

An interesting case with a predictable twist!

Great instinct Vo for not believing Cosmina. She should be charged for wasting police resources in searching for the baby’s body in the river.

The Palmers finally got their happy ending. ❤️

They did get their happy ending -- but was that supposed to be a newborn? I know it was probably 1-2 weeks after birth that they found the baby, but he looked huge when they passed him (I think this is right, I think the baby was a boy) into their arms! 

[Snazzy Daisy]

1 hour ago, hookedontv said:

They did get their happy ending -- but was that supposed to be a newborn? I know it was probably 1-2 weeks after birth that they found the baby, but he looked huge when they passed him (I think this is right, I think the baby was a boy) into their arms! 

She doesn’t look like a newborn to me.

But I appreciate that they use a real baby and not a creepy fake baby like The Resident did.

➡️  Fake Baby

[hookedontv]

3 hours ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

But I appreciate that they use a real baby and not a creepy fake baby like The Resident did.

➡️  Fake Baby

The Resident fake baby was the stuff of nightmares. 

[CheshireCat]

On 10/19/2022 at 7:31 PM, Sandman said:

No way does an FBI field office outside the U.S. get involved in extraction of intelligence agents, let alone such an extraction involving a jailbreak! The American agents depend on the goodwill of law enforcement in the host countries, and local law enforcement would never trust the FBI again.

I believe they said they don't operate in Turkey. It's Europe but not part of the Schengen area or European Union, so it would make sense to me if they don't.

6 hours ago, hookedontv said:

They did get their happy ending -- but was that supposed to be a newborn? I know it was probably 1-2 weeks after birth that they found the baby, but he looked huge when they passed him (I think this is right, I think the baby was a boy) into their arms! 

It was supposed to be a she on the show but it's entirely possible it was a boy. I would imagine the baby was as big because they're probably not allowed to use a newborn for filming. A while ago I read that rules around that are pretty strict.

On 10/19/2022 at 6:49 PM, SnazzyDaisy said:

S02•E05 - Yesterday’s Miracle

An interesting case with a predictable twist!

I had the opposite reaction, predictable case with a little bit of an unexpected twist. 😄

When they mentioned the surrogate had disappeared, my mind jumped to human trafficking immediately and when they then found her and she wasn't pregnant, I thought the baby had been sold. But I expected organized crime to be involved and not a private citizen.

I did like the episode, though.

I still haven't figured out how they're using Smitty/what exactly it is that she's doing. Didn't Jaeger usually make the introductions with local law enforcement and all that? Smitty does not seem to do that, so what is her job?

[Snazzy Daisy]

35 minutes ago, CheshireCat said:

I still haven't figured out how they're using Smitty/what exactly it is that she's doing. Didn't Jaeger usually make the introductions with local law enforcement and all that? Smitty does not seem to do that, so what is her job?

Smitty seems to be more interested in being a field agent than a liaison. She’s more into action than PR.

We always saw Jaeger coordinating stuffs, networking, making introductions and reminding the Fly Team on the dos and don'ts.

Edited October 21, 2022 by SnazzyDaisy

[mythoughtis]

So the high speed chase is stopped by the FBI guy running faster than the cars.   Okay then 

[GiandujaPie]

I know they said the husband couldn't pass a background check for a legal adoption, but they were uber rich. I'm sure there was some way they could have found a baby without actually breaking any laws and stealing another couple's baby. 

[mythoughtis]

7 hours ago, GiandujaPie said:

I know they said the husband couldn't pass a background check for a legal adoption, but they were uber rich. I'm sure there was some way they could have found a baby without actually breaking any laws and stealing another couple's baby. 

Yes- they could have arranged for their own surrogate and gone through the process rather than steal the baby.  However that would  mean waiting for the implantation process and  the 9 month gestation 

[Xeliou66]

This was a pretty good episode, good twist that the missing nephew turned out to be affiliated with a terrorist group - he deserved to be locked up for his role in what happened, and his aunt can fuck off, not sure what her problem with Vo was, but her nephew was involved in terrorism.

I was always confused by Forrester’s side plot, but it appears to be resolved and I liked Forrester’s scene where he threatened the criminal, and it was nice to see Tank in the final scene.

[Xeliou66]

Interesting case tonight, it did keep me guessing as to who was behind it all, but I missed Forrester not being involved in the case for the second week in a row and I wonder what is up with that. Are they setting something up for him to fight with some bureaucrat? Those storylines get tiresome. I’m enjoying the cases but I could do without yet another storyline of the team battling the higher ups.

[CheshireCat]

5 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

Interesting case tonight, it did keep me guessing as to who was behind it all,

I agree, this was a good episode and who was behind it was not obvious. Could have been a staged kidnapping, staged by the girlfriend and bodyguard (which was my initial guess), staged by the conman and the bodyguard or it could have been real... which it turned out to be. There were a lot of options.

I also enjoyed the very cooperative local police again. It doesn't always have to be that way but it's really nice when they all work together.

I really loved the almost end when the girlfriend told him goodbye, Jamie reminded him that states were free to file their own charges and Smitty said that was worth the price of admission. I agree. ;-)

5 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

but I missed Forrester not being involved in the case for the second week in a row

When he's there, it's usually all about him, so I didn't really mind.

5 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

and I wonder what is up with that.

My guess would be either the actor had another commitment or they're planning on giving him a (lone-wolf) arc (maybe with his mom?) and therefore, had to reduce his screen time beforehand because it'll be all about him later.

5 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

Are they setting something up for him to fight with some bureaucrat? Those storylines get tiresome. I’m enjoying the cases but I could do without yet another storyline of the team battling the higher ups.

Agreed. Bosses can't be all bad, can they? Maybe, at one point, the agents should ask themselves if they're the problem if they always clash with the bosses ;-)

[Snazzy Daisy]

S02•E07 - A Proven Liar

Last week’s episode (Call It Anarchy) was like watching Charlie’s Angels, FBI version. The girls were badass.

This week, not much actions from them because it is Andre’s turn. It is still a good episode though, with solid storyline.

I thought all the girls who were conned by Brent/Gerald are working together and have hired help to kidnap his current gf to force him to pay. Thank god he wasn’t blackmailing them with intimate vids etc.

In the end, Vo looking so sad when watching Andre and gf. She said she won’t date her colleagues.

[Xeliou66]

This was a good episode, I thought the setting of it being in Milan was interesting and I was curious as to how they would prove it was murder, I thought it was one of their better episodes. I missed Forrester again though, and I don’t like the whole storyline of the team once again clashing with the higher ups. 

[Snazzy Daisy]

S02•E08 - Hail Mary

This is a solid episode but where is Scott? I miss him and his leadership. Jamie is way too emotional at times, not a good trait for a leader. I like seeing Vo goes undercover, she is a chameleon. I wish they would give Raines more things to do in this episode, not just printing some documents for Smitty.

Is Luca Rossi's character inspired by Jean-Luc Brunel? I know that Walter Maldini is sleazy but am hoping for some twists re who the killer is, maybe his arrogant wife's involvement etc.

[WendyCR72]

The show returns on January 3, 2023, S02.E09: Wheelman:

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The team races through the streets of Budapest to put a halt to a major art heist about to be perpetrated by an American; Forrester grows angry as Dandridge watches every move the team makes.