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Madtown
Madtown

Dear Jinger, My husband and I have no children and we are far from selfish. We chose to not have children for several reasons, none of which you deserve to know. What I will tell you, is that I d

Notabug
Notabug

Some of us simply didn't have children due to our circumstances.  During my most fertile years, I worked 80+ hours a week, delivering other people's children ironically enough.  I was not in a committ

Gemma Violet
Gemma Violet

It's very simple, Jinger.  If a woman is economically disadvantaged and cannot afford to give a child what it needs to grow and thrive, she is not being selfish to not have kids.  If a woman is a very

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CalicoKitty

CalicoKitty

Their house was nice but bland, and the backyard was very nice.  They have a nice view.  I don't remember what the asking price is, but it seemed on the low side for the area.  I do not live in Southern CA, so I am not up on house prices there, but it seemed on par for my area in rural Nevada.  I was happy to see that they are letting their girls use their imaginations and have princess costumes and other toys.  I wonder where they are going.

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Notabug

Notabug

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Isn't Evy Jo almost 4 and they have her in a crib? 

The house is nice, but its a weird mix of open concept and then cut up into a bunch of tiny spaces.

To give credit where credit is due, their backyard was a hot mess when they bought the house.

Note to Jeremy - grapes are a fruit too.

Yep, she'll be 4 in November.  Makes no sense to still have her in a crib, let alone in their room.  She's easily big enough to climb out of a crib and end up falling and getting hurt.  

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crazy8s

crazy8s

40 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Yep, she'll be 4 in November.  Makes no sense to still have her in a crib, let alone in their room.  She's easily big enough to climb out of a crib and end up falling and getting hurt.  

We don't actually know she still sleeps in the crib. maybe they are just waiting for the next, too lazy to take it down, nowhere to store it or whatever.

If they post the child moving from crib to toddler bed at age 6 like Jill Rodrigues then we should snark.

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GeeGolly

GeeGolly

25 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

We don't actually know she still sleeps in the crib. maybe they are just waiting for the next, too lazy to take it down, nowhere to store it or whatever.

If they post the child moving from crib to toddler bed at age 6 like Jill Rodrigues then we should snark.

Jinger said she sleeps in the crib and the only other upstairs bedroom is Felicity's, with one twin (toddler?) bed.

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Salacious Kitty

Salacious Kitty

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

After giving it more thought (why, I don't really know), I think this house was intended to be a short term investment and they always planned on moving. It needed some minor work, mostly cosmetic and they've lived their for 3 years. 

I think their low-ish asking price is to create a bidding war.

They've been there a little less than two years. Jeremy has the wanderlust. 

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AstridM

AstridM

4 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

After giving it more thought (why, I don't really know), I think this house was intended to be a short term investment and they always planned on moving. It needed some minor work, mostly cosmetic and they've lived their for 3 years. 

I think their low-ish asking price is to create a bidding war.

How? They still don’t have jobs. 

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libgirl2

libgirl2

On 6/13/2024 at 6:15 AM, farmgal4 said:

That home is a lot like J & J; no personality at all.

Usually when you are selling a home, they tell you to take out those "personal" touches like family photos. Keep things neutral as well. It makes a buyer easily imagine living somewhere. I had one realtor bake cookies because that makes people feel more "at home". And when we sold our townhouse, I even removed a coffee table to make the living room look bigger. 

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CalicoKitty

CalicoKitty

1 hour ago, libgirl2 said:

Usually when you are selling a home, they tell you to take out those "personal" touches like family photos. Keep things neutral as well. It makes a buyer easily imagine living somewhere. I had one realtor bake cookies because that makes people feel more "at home". And when we sold our townhouse, I even removed a coffee table to make the living room look bigger. 

They may have decided to put their money into fixing the yard at first.  They did a good job, and the view is gorgeous.  The house is neat, clean and tidy and neutral so buyers can imagine how they want it.  Their house would appeal to me more than a house with murals or dark painted walls that would take a lot of work to paint over.

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ginger90

ginger90

21 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

Pickles says Jinger did a podcast where she apparently spills more tea, including family superstitions and JB's discouraging adoption, saying she didn't talk much about these things in her book in order to keep family connections and encourage them to break free.

I believe she was talking about Gothard, not Jim Bob.

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auntieminem

auntieminem

Yes, she was talking about Gothard's beliefs on adoptions.  It was interesting she did say she thought it was wrong to have older kids, take care of younger kids, it is the parents job to parent children.  It was an interesting interview. She was more outspoken than usual and did say they didn't want to alienate her parents so they still had access to her siblings to try to help them get out of the IBLP cult.   The guy doing most of the interview seems like a dope but Jinger was more open thna usual.  Here is the interview.  

 

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Gemma Violet

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I just finished watching it and I thought it was an interesting interview.  I could have even watched more of it--it kept my interest.  I agree the interviewer guy was dopey, sitting there with no shoes on and, at one point, stroking his wife's hair while the interview was going on.

One thing that jumped out at me:  There were several times where Jinger was speaking and Jeremy would start talking over her.  Jinger would not defer to him by stopping her talking.  She would continue her point and Jeremy would have to stop talking and let her finish.  Go Jinger.  

eta:  Jinger said they would like to have possibly three children, either two or three.  (She said they had originally said 3 to 5.)  She said Felicity drew a picture of (and sang a song about) the family and included a little brother.  

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auntieminem

auntieminem

Jill and Derick did an interview with Unplanned (Matt and Abby) when Jill's book came out and it was a pretty good.  Matt seems like kind of a jerk but it must be comfortable setting in that they were willing to talk pretty openly and less guarded. Jinger did seem sincere about not wanting to make an issue of money so as to continue to have access to help her siblings out of the cult.  Though you would think if JB would hear her talking about this he would make it more difficult for them to be around siblings.  It is interesting that her siblings do visit them a lot in LA.  

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AstridM

AstridM

20 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

Pickles says Jinger did a podcast where she apparently spills more tea, including family superstitions and JB's discouraging adoption, saying she didn't talk much about these things in her book in order to keep family connections and encourage them to break free.

She’s not encouraging anyone to “break free,” FFS. 

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farmgal4

farmgal4

7 hours ago, auntieminem said:

Jill and Derick did an interview with Unplanned (Matt and Abby) when Jill's book came out and it was a pretty good.  Matt seems like kind of a jerk but it must be comfortable setting in that they were willing to talk pretty openly and less guarded. Jinger did seem sincere about not wanting to make an issue of money so as to continue to have access to help her siblings out of the cult.  Though you would think if JB would hear her talking about this he would make it more difficult for them to be around siblings.  It is interesting that her siblings do visit them a lot in LA.  

Matt is an asshole.

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GeeGolly

GeeGolly

I think Jinger's influence on her siblings has been both direct and indirect.

From what we've seen, I'm guessing Jinger has been a big influence on Joy. I also think the reason Jana and Jessa wear pants is due to Jinger. I think both Jill and Jinger have influenced James' beliefs as well.

With the exception of Joe/Kendra, all the the DsIL wear pants, so it seems the brothers/headships have relaxed their modesty standards.

Jinger is trying to maintain that fine line - she loves her parents and wants them in her life, so she is trying to be tactful and respectful while sharing her truths.

And yes, both Jill and Jinger's beliefs are still very similar to their parents. But IMO, the fact that their beliefs are different in any way, is a big deal considering the way they were raised.

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1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

And yes, both Jill and Jinger's beliefs are still very similar to their parents. But IMO, the fact that their beliefs are different in any way, is a big deal considering the way they were raised.

I also see it as a big deal.

I've always believed that JB was an adherent of Botkin's "200 year plan" - or something very like it -  which would fulfill the goal of Christian dominion. So JB would see his children as remaining for life within his orbit of religious and financial authority (never mind the yada yada about "husbands are headships" and "leave and cleave"). Most of the kidults haven't ventured far from the TTH orbit. Some literally live on the compound. We don't know the deets of their businesses but the sons seem to be somewhere within Duggar Enterprises, even if they may have their own specific business(es). 

When I read in Jill's book how JB lied to the kids about the TV money, filed false tax returns for all the kids, slid documents past them for signature, and kept an iron fist on all those teevee millions, it was eye-opening but not really surprising to me. Jeremy must have burned JB's biscuits when from the get-go he insisted on a separate TLC contract for himself and Jinger when the TV show was in production. I haven't followed the Forsyths closely but I have the idea that Austin's business isn't a subsidiary of Duggar Enterprises. And of course Jill and Derick are long gone from the TTH and JB's control. And I think those are burrs under JB's saddle.

Any deviation, no matter how innocuous it may seem,  from lockstep cooperation with JB's directives, even by married adult kids, is IMO a HUGE thing to JB. And every Duggar kid must know it. 

We saw a bit of JB's tinpot domestic dictator act in that federal courtroom, when as a witness in a pretrial hearing in his son's felony case, he had trouble even recognizing the authority of the presiding judge. "I'm not going to allow it" - well no, JB wasn't large and in charge in the courtroom and the judge let him know it. I can't imagine what a control freak he must be in private.  IMO, JB thinks that while it may be regrettable that his oldest son and heir has molested little kids and acquired/watched CSAM, the ebil gubmint should keep their hands off him because of Jesus and JB's ambitions for wealth and power. Yeah, that's nuts. I think JB is nuts. 

 

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Salacious Kitty

Salacious Kitty

8 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I didn't watch the video, but I did read an article that quoted her saying something like that.

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jinger-jeremy-decided-not-to-fight-for-money-on-counting-on/

What Jinger never addressed was if she got the $80k (or whatever the amount was) and signed the NDA, or if they blew that off completely. They were able to put down $100k down on the Laredo house, so I think they got a payout from JB. 

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Minivanessa

Minivanessa

4 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

We don't know that for fact, though. 

Sure. I haven't seen the contract. But some news stories around 2019 - 2020 mentioned that the Vuolos were ready to walk away from the Counting On show on TLC, maybe angling for their own show, etc. They included references to the Vuolos' not being paid much per episode under their contract. IIRC one may have said it was a 4 year contract that they hadn't renewed. Then, there was a story (or probably more) about the depositions in the daughters' civil suit over the police report release. In that one Jeremy was quoted as saying they only got paid two or three thousand dollars per episode.

So from all that, I believe that Jeremy and Jinger had a different contractual situation for the show, than the rest of the Duggar kids. As Jill's book disclosed, she and Derick weren't paid anything for their work on those episodes. I believe that Jinger would also have been owed money by JB for all those episodes she appeared in, in the years before Jeremy showed up.  Jeremy may be right in dissing the amounts they were paid per episode, but they were paid something. Even if it were only $2K - $3K per episode, Jeremy joined the show IIRC in Season 3. I haven't counted every episode but there were at least 30 episodes produced from that time on, and he was probably in most of them. They included the Vuolos' courtship, engagement, marriage, honeymoon, buying a house, having a baby, and moving to LA. Even if they were paid for only 25 episodes, that's $50K to $75K total, which even after taxes would be a nice little bonus for the pastor of a tiny planted church in Laredo TX, even if it's only chump change in LA. Thirty episodes would have paid $60K - $90K.

I know, it would have been paid over time, not a big fat check all at once. But it's more than her sibs got for the episodes, as JB was taking in all the money directly and lying to his kids about it. What a Christian man. Ugh.

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AstridM

AstridM

10 hours ago, Jeeves said:

IMO, JB thinks that while it may be regrettable that his oldest son and heir has molested little kids and acquired/watched CSAM, the ebil gubmint should keep their hands off him because of Jesus and JB's ambitions for wealth and power. Yeah, that's nuts. I think JB is nuts. 

The same man who ran for office on a platform of putting sex offenders to death?

7 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

What Jinger never addressed was if she got the $80k (or whatever the amount was) and signed the NDA, or if they blew that off completely. They were able to put down $100k down on the Laredo house, so I think they got a payout from JB. 

Of course she neglected to answer that question. . .  🤦‍♀️

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jschoolgirl

jschoolgirl

On 6/16/2024 at 1:48 AM, Gemma Violet said:

I just finished watching it and I thought it was an interesting interview.  I could have even watched more of it--it kept my interest.  I agree the interviewer guy was dopey, sitting there with no shoes on and, at one point, stroking his wife's hair while the interview was going on.

One thing that jumped out at me:  There were several times where Jinger was speaking and Jeremy would start talking over her.  Jinger would not defer to him by stopping her talking.  She would continue her point and Jeremy would have to stop talking and let her finish.  Go Jinger. 

I agree with all of this. I thought Jeremy came across better than I would have expected. I wish he had not had a hat on, though.

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auntieminem

auntieminem

Jeremy and Jinger's IG have posted about the Legends soccer game that Jer was playing in.  It is two big names in the game getting a team together and playing against each other.  It was televised in LA, maybe elsewhere.  It was cute to see how excited the girls were.  I know nothing about the sport so don't know anyone's name.   Guess this makes Jeremy the super cool brother in law.  

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Salacious Kitty

Salacious Kitty

1 hour ago, auntieminem said:

Jeremy and Jinger's IG have posted about the Legends soccer game that Jer was playing in.  It is two big names in the game getting a team together and playing against each other.  It was televised in LA, maybe elsewhere.  It was cute to see how excited the girls were.  I know nothing about the sport so don't know anyone's name.   Guess this makes Jeremy the super cool brother in law.  

Jeremy's team lost. 😂

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GeeGolly

GeeGolly

1 hour ago, auntieminem said:

 Compared to the other brother in laws and especially compared to the Duggar boys he would be.  😂  His pre-preacher, seminary years seemed somewhat normal/cool. He was able to have fun in his college years, travel with his soccer career (even if it was not that long). 

Ben - fixing broken glass, Derick - trekking through Nepal, Austin - building houses and Jeremy - playing soccer. (all jobs prior to meeting the Duggars)

For jobs, in order for me it would be, houses, soccer, Nepal and glass.

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AstridM

AstridM

3 hours ago, auntieminem said:

 Compared to the other brother in laws and especially compared to the Duggar boys he would be.  😂  His pre-preacher, seminary years seemed somewhat normal/cool. He was able to have fun in his college years, travel with his soccer career (even if it was not that long). 

It’s an extremely low bar!

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