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I really enjoyed the interview from what I am assuming is last night about the overwhelming amount of information compared to junk food. I know social media is legitimately addictive to kids. For adults though, you don't have to chain yourself to the 24 hour news cycle. People who eat too much junk food can go on diets. 

The interview covered other topics. The guy was really good. 

 

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Jordan's description of Dick Cheney was perfect:  "An unrepentant war criminal who needs the blood of Iraqi children to power the machine that keeps him alive and out of the flames of hell for one more day."  I also laughed at his extending sympathy to those who saw Cheney's name trending this weekend and thought, "Oh my god, this is it!"

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I caught up on the past two weeks' episodes (minus the interviews) this weekend.  I love how this show has never let up on Dick Cheney as a war criminal.  It seems like on other shows it's all about that time he shot a guy in the face (and the guy wound up apologizing for it!), and TDS does make those jokes, but any time Cheney is covered again, they also make sure to bring up the invasion of and atrocities in Iraq.

The live post-debate episode was great.  The nation of PAWINEVMIAZGANC and the neighboring country of NoOneGivesAShitistan is the perfect description of the Electoral College. 

Jordan's week was great, too.  "If there's one thing we know about a racist conspiracy theory its that Donald Trump will swallow it whole like a hungry immigrant at Petco."  And, OMG, Ronny as a cat; that was hilarious.  "I think I was adopted by a childless cat lady" and wanting to stay.

Also, "courtesy towing" is so fucking corrupt, it was nice to see that covered.

Ronny was on fire:

-I would rather buy one of those Hezbollah pagers than tweet 'I hate Taylor Swift.'  He should stick to racism, it's less divisive.

-Stop accurately describing Trump.  You put him in danger when you repeat what he says verbatim. 

-There are very fine bomb threats on both sides.

-That's a whole nepo nursery.

-Rudy is so feral, I'm afraid RFK Jr. will put him in his trunk.

-In the old days, doing a karate kick in 7/11 didn't make you a millionaire, it made you a meth head in Florida.

I liked Josh's piece on celebrity endorsements.  He's a consistently terrific addition to the show and I hope he sticks around as long as he wants.

 

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3 hours ago, DoctorAtomic said:

I can't believe they got 'living from ass to mouth' in there. 

They're on basic cable after 11 PM, so it's a slightly different set of rules than Prime-Time on network. 

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Leslie Jones' piece was highest quality material. The turn from bragging about going to France to turn it into commentary on food was brilliant. We certainly have a health problem in the US, but it's totally derived from horrible nutrition. We're fighting a losing battle. I try to only buy products without added sugar or corn syrup. I mean, I like sodas a couple of times a week, but I can afford with the cane sugar. It tastes better anyway. It's nearly impossible. You really need high fructose corn syrup in ketchup? Come on. Try finding an energy bar that isn't chocolate. 

I loved that fast food worker getting pulled over the counter and throwing some crosses at the guy. 

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It was great to see Dulce again.  Josh was dragged into it perfectly.  "You can see both my hands."

Leslie Jones's IMO piece on two of the biggest ways in which America sucks - food and violence - was funny ("A dog's ass has natural flavoring, but I don't want to dip my French fries in it!"), and I like that it ended on a call to action.

Desi was great all week, especially in the "For Her" episode.  "How dare a woman who can't get pregnant care about abortion?  Only men who can't get pregnant are allowed to care about abortion."   

I'm not usually into Michael's pieces, but I LOL when they cut to him bribing the cop.

Trump/Project 25's "Radically Nice" biography of Tim Walz was on point.  My favorite part was "grooming children to be nice to each other". 

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On 9/25/2024 at 12:06 PM, Sarah 103 said:

They're on basic cable after 11 PM, so it's a slightly different set of rules than Prime-Time on network. 

Actually, it's a hugely different set of rules. 

There are three categories of possible prohibited content:  obscene, indecent, and profane.  We're talking about profane here. 

The prohibition against profanity applies only to broadcast TV, and only during certain times of the day (corresponding to when children might be watching). 

Profanity is not prohibited at all, ever, on cable TV.  Cable channels often choose to bleep profanity, but there's no law prohibiting them from letting the f-bombs fly.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/fcc-guidelines-profanity-do-not-apply-cable-networks-2023-12-01/

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Even when there's no law, I think a lot of the time the networks censor in deference to preferences of their advertisers. I don't mind when they don't, but the do censor often enough that I was surprised by the ass to mouth comment getting to air. 

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When and how did Triumph the Insult Comic Dog move from Conan O'Brien's shows to The Daily Show? I have never seen a character move like that from one late night show to another, especially since it is different hosts/networks/channels. 

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4 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

When and how did Triumph the Insult Comic Dog move from Conan O'Brien's shows to The Daily Show? I have never seen a character move like that from one late night show to another, especially since it is different hosts/networks/channels. 

Triumph has been on various other shows and platforms as well. Apparently Robert Smigel established ownership at sone point and NBC either didn't care to fight it or was told by their lawyers or accountants that the case wasn't worth fighting.

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I can't believe they did an entire segment on the longshoremen's strike and not a single mention/reference to On the Waterfront. What is happening to our culture? 

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I found this week's shows a little lackluster; they had good points, but they weren't made via memorable jokes.

My favorite part of Charlamagne's tha God's previous IMO was telling the media to do their damn job and talk about the GOP is already planning how to steal the election "by having corrupt state officials refuse to certify the results, getting corrupt judges to back them up, before the whole thing goes to the corrupt Supreme Court that's already anointed Donald Trump a king, so they can overturn the results of the election to declare him the winner in exchange for a new RV" so I like that he turned that into his entire segment this time.  But he wasn't on fire like he usually is. 

Maybe everyone has election fatigue already.  Or maybe I do and it's on me that things weren't hitting like they usually do.  We'll see next week.

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I think everyone's been tired of the election for a while. I'm exhausted, and I wouldn't say I'm a news junkie. I don't watch late night shows either, but I'd guess they're tired of having to talk about it every night. 

I think part of it is that Trump is still doing the same shtick over and over. He's run out of material. Even people going to the rallies are leaving early. Voting for him or not, we all know what we're getting. You don't see Jordan going to do his deal at the rallies not nearly as frequently. It's the same.  

It's almost like Dice Clay. There's only so many nursery rhymes. After you've heard them a few times, what else you got? 

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Was the woman who listened to the 'Wind' for real? That actually happened? It seemed like she was 'in on it' with Kosta. 

He was basically mocking her to her face. There's no way anyone is that obtuse. 

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2 hours ago, DoctorAtomic said:

Was the woman who listened to the 'Wind' for real? That actually happened? It seemed like she was 'in on it' with Kosta. 

He was basically mocking her to her face. There's no way anyone is that obtuse. 

My understanding of the way the show works is that the people they interview in field pieces like this are real. They are not actors, they are not usually "in" on the joke. The people being interviewed believe that The Daily Show is doing a field piece on them and genuinely wants to hear their perspective and have them give an honest account of whatever happened to them or whatever they did.  

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To be honest, the bigger issue is that there are still millions of Americans who have no idea how the whole story about the election being stolen really began and/or are still stupidly believing the election was stolen.

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I don't know how you can be so out of it when The Daily Show is coming to do a piece on you and not know their deal. Even Jordan said it's getting hard to find people at rallies that don't know about him. 

Granted, there's probably people who do know and take the bait because they think they can get one over on The Daily Show. I just couldn't tell where this woman was coming from. 

I swear for at least the first half of the piece, I thought the woman had set up Fox News and it totally spun out of control. She was saying, 'no they didn't fact check me at all.' I thought her whole motivation was to expose them. I didn't think she was serious until she said, 'Well I know the truth' or something like that. 

Credit to Kosta for playing 100% straight. 

1 hour ago, Sarah 103 said:

They are not actors, they are not usually "in" on the joke.

I know they aren't actors, but I don't think it's that rare. For example, Ronnie did a piece on all the jobs coming into Wisconsin from the 'deal' with Carrier (I think), and the woman he interviewed was totally in on it and looked like she was getting setups for Ronnie's punchlines or at the least knew enough that she was setting him up. The Michigan governor engages in some good banter on multiple segments. 

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Nothing is too absurd to be true these days. Ever since marjorie Taylor Green started with the "Jewish space laser" business, I've decided that there really are some people who are unironically and proudly not only bigots but also batshit wacked out crazy, living among us, in positions of power and influence, no matter how hard it is to imagine this is so.

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6 hours ago, DoctorAtomic said:

Credit to Kosta for playing 100% straight. 

I love when she says the wind told her and he nods, she keeps talking, and he says, "Wait.  I was nodding, but I didn't actually register that -- did you just say the wind told you?"  And responding to her affirmation with "And the wind speaks English?"

7 hours ago, Palimelon said:

To be honest, the bigger issue is that there are still millions of Americans who have no idea how the whole story about the election being stolen really began

Yeah, that this wackadoodle email was the source of Fox News claiming Dominion software flipped votes from Trump to Biden came out when Dominion sued, so the basis for the statement being the claims of someone who was "internally decapitated" yet lived, who the wind tells is a ghost, who knows Justice Scalia was killed during a week-long human hunting expedition, who time travels in a semi-conscious state, etc. has been out there since February of last year.

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18 hours ago, Bastet said:

Yeah, that this wackadoodle email was the source of Fox News claiming Dominion software flipped votes from Trump to Biden came out when Dominion sued, so the basis for the statement being the claims of someone who was "internally decapitated" yet lived, who the wind tells is a ghost, who knows Justice Scalia was killed during a week-long human hunting expedition, who time travels in a semi-conscious state, etc. has been out there since February of last year.

This to me, that was the craziest part of the story. There was no checking the source at Fox News. There was no fact-checking. Fox News took an email they received from a random person and made it their biggest story, despite having absolutely no proof or evidence it was true or even partially based in reality. The old celebrity tabloid Confidential Magazine from the 1950s at least made some effort to check out the tips/stories they received from sources. (Was the celebrity at the hotel when the event took place? They would do some research/investigating. If the celebrity was at least at the hotel, they could run the story. If it turned out they were on the other side of town at a party all night they would not run the story.) 

It's just completely mind-blowing to me that a celebrity gossip magazine from the 1950s had higher journalistic standards than Fox News. 

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Sure, I'm going to take advice on 'being a man' from the sycophantic hoover Tucker Carlson who took his cousin to the prom. 

I actually think the $800 million settlement ended up landing in Fox's favor. Because they know they can make their antics go away for a price.

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"There's a reason this country has had the same number of female presidents as the Taliban."

I liked Thursday's piece on using misogyny and homophobia to get men to vote for Trump - and how it takes no effort to do.  I also liked the footage showing every single one of their criticisms of supposed beta (or "betta" as the one Fox guy said) men applies to Trump.

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On 10/3/2024 at 3:28 PM, Sarah 103 said:

When and how did Triumph the Insult Comic Dog move from Conan O'Brien's shows to The Daily Show? I have never seen a character move like that from one late night show to another, especially since it is different hosts/networks/channels. 

I’d like to think I had a small part in this. I know someone whose husband works on the show and I asked her recently why they weren’t using Triumph to do his man on the street interviews at the debates. Maybe she passed on the word. It seems to me that Smigel is going around doing his own thing and different stations are picking him up.  There’s another segment you can watch on many platforms where he is needling Jake Tapper of CNN.

Tonight’s show with the coverage of Trump’s musical rally was hilarious. 

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Hilarious, but also deranged. I was muttering how the media isn't putting Trump's dementia under the same microscope as Biden, but Desi and Kosta were correct. It's not being covered because people are just laughing at it, even though at the same time he's talking about using the military against American citizens. Which won't happen, but that's not the point. 

Black also brought up a topic I love so much - how the media froths at the mouth to KenBoneify the election at this point. I don't get if every 4 years we get this handful of imbeciles who will swing the election, then why are we bothering with a 2 year election cycle? Just make it 6 weeks. I didn't need 2 years to 'get to know Harris'. They all had the same amount of time as me. 

I liked how he was ripping on the vampire magician, but I overall enjoyed all the patent idiocy of these people trying to act all thoughtful and smart. And to be fair, sure, not everyone is a news junkie; I'm not either, but with all the technology we have, it's not hard to stay reasonably informed. "Do my research". Well, you had two years. You ain't starting now. 

Just to show the relevance of Black's monologue - on PBS news *this evening* they had a focus group of 'undecided voters' in Las Vegas. Granted, Black is editing his video clips for comedy, but on *PBS news*, it was the *exact same thing*. There was a woman, and I swear I'm not kidding, who needed to do some more research on Harris 'sleeping her way to the top' because she heard 'rumors'. Even one of the others was like, 'uhh, girl, no'. "Well, I need to see for myself". As if that piece of misinformation only popped up this morning. 

But the rest of the clips were just the same as Black. 

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Desi was on fire Tuesday: 

- A sneeze is the period of the face.

- I'd put 100 bucks on Jimmy Carter taking him in a push-up contest today.

- I cannot believe Trump is inventing new races.  He doesn't even like the old ones.

- Every second of her reaction to Trump's town hall, especially, "No one wants to have a medical emergency in front of Kristi Noem; she's just looking for a reason to take you to the gravel pit.  She cocked her shotgun when she heard Kamala had allergies."

So was Lewis.  I fell out at him calling himself the only Daily Show employee who works less than Jon Stewart, and his entire rant at undecided voters was fantastic:

- What are you researching?  We know who these people are -- one of them has spent the past four years being vice president, and the other has spent the past forty years being the worst person in America.  What else do you need to know, how they load a dishwasher?

- Even the reporter is like, "Can I go cover a mass shooting?  This is depressing!" (And, OMG, I loved that reporter's face when the guy said he'd vote for Kamala now that Taylor Swift endorsed her, because "I'm a musician, I have to".)

- I'm tired of my vote being canceled out by someone whose IQ score only makes sense in Celsius.

Last night's show fired on all cylinders, too.  I love Desi saying she shouldn't have to explain presidential powers to someone who has already been president, and imitating the way Trump says "Black men", saying it sounds like he's been practicing to keep from calling them something else.  Her exchange with Josh, going back and forth about "what this election is about" for women and for Black men, was something close to perfection. 

Holy cow, I did not know about Obama telling Black men about themselves, saying they're just making up reasons not to vote for her, when the real reason they don't want to is their sexist bullshit.

 

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You know though, if that guy is voting for Harris because of Taylor Swift's endorsement, then take it. I mean, it's the same 80 to 100 thousand morons who 'need to see more', less than 20 days till the election who are just mentally flipping a coin every time over the 100 million voters who pay attention. At least he came up with a reason.

Trump said "blaaayck" about Harris too, when he was going on how if she's Indian, but all of a sudden she's become 'blaaaayck. Now she's a blaaayck lady.'

I wish when he said he was the 'father of IVF' that they asked him if he actually knew what it was. I just am continually baffled how he gets such a pass on everything. I barely heard anything about trapping people at the Coachella rally.

For Obama to talk like that, you know he was furious. 

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3 minutes ago, DoctorAtomic said:

I wish when he said he was the 'father of IVF' that they asked him if he actually knew what it was

Hey, I wish someone would ask him to explain the difference between communist, Marxist, and fascist, but we can’t always get what we want. 

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I know Harris was probably exhausted from the constant interruptions on the Fox News 'interview', but I bet she's kicking herself when the guy asked, 'do you think the American people are stupid?' I mean, her answer was good, but saying, something like, 'I don't, but why do you? That's weird you defaulted right to stupid when we're talking about conservatives and Trump supporters. I came on here precisely because I do want to reach out to them. I want to be everyone's President, not just half the country. That's really off putting you're implying your viewers are stupid.'

Easy for me to say with hindsight. She probably wouldn't have been able to get through all that without being interrupted either. I suppose Harris was coached not to be combative, and the clip they showed, she seemed to be calm. It would have been nice to see that guy on the back foot. 

I've said before that I'm not a blame the media guy, and I know this election cycle is nearly unprecedented, but the media has just been poor. "Lion's den" is just so derivative. They even said it on PBSNews. 

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16 hours ago, possibilities said:

Desi was strong this week. She had a point of view, she brought energy, and didn't seem to be phoning it in.

She's my favorite of the correspondent-as-host gang.  But, man, do I still miss Roy.

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3 hours ago, Bastet said:

She's my favorite of the correspondent-as-host gang.  But, man, do I still miss Roy.

I’m sure you probably mean, you miss Roy as a correspondent on TDS, but if you’re not aware, he’s the host of a current events/comedy/panel show on CNN (and Max, the next day).  

Probably appeals to a similar audience to The Daily Show, and there’s only one episode a week to keep up with. 
 

The show is called Have I Got News for You. I don’t see a thread for it here but maybe it falls somewhere under the CNN umbrella. 

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I suppose it would help if I actually told you what the show is.
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