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Raquel, Rachel; One woman's strange erotic journey from Sur to TomTom


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On 5/24/2023 at 10:05 AM, politichick said:

I am not feeling an ounce of sympathy for Raquel given her mammoth disregard for girl code, but I hope that for her sake she's done with this show. If she truly is in a mental health facility, going back will undo any good that's happening.

I found Rachel's interactions during VPR "sounded" sweet or naive, but I also found she relied heavily on the male cast to help her with statements or point of views. Her talking heads showed a flat affect, or even a delayed understanding of what she was being asked.

I wouldn't be surprised if James and Tom recognized and manipulated her anxiety and need for male affirmations (and/or dependency on them).

I'm glad she's out of entertainment because she'd be too involved with narcissistic men.  She'd also be ostracized because she clearly doesn't see other women as her peers, friends or allies.

She's that gal who'll hang with you between boyfriends. But that's it!

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It's sad that Rachel/Raquel/Rachel feels the need to ask the internet if she should change her name fir a 4th time. She keeps posting in support of mental health organizations but she is in serious need of mental health assistance. She is not empowered. She is lost and messed up and what she's doing to Ariana is beyond fucked up. Where are her parents and why isn't she off social media? 

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3 hours ago, surfgirl said:

It's sad that Rachel/Raquel/Rachel feels the need to ask the internet if she should change her name for a 4th time. She keeps posting in support of mental health organizations, but she is in serious need of mental health assistance. She is not empowered. She is lost and messed up, and what she's doing to Ariana is beyond fucked up. Where are her parents, and why isn't she off social media? 

Once again, I am at a loss for words. And end up quoting Keanu Effin Reeves’ monologue from the film “Parenthood.” 
 

You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, or drive a car. Hell, you need a license to catch a fish! But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.

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21 hours ago, surfgirl said:

It's sad that Rachel/Raquel/Rachel feels the need to ask the internet if she should change her name fir a 4th time. She keeps posting in support of mental health organizations but she is in serious need of mental health assistance. She is not empowered. She is lost and messed up and what she's doing to Ariana is beyond fucked up. Where are her parents and why isn't she off social media? 

Something can't be right. At the top of my head, the only other people I can think of who like to switch names are Ye/Kanye and Diddy/Puffy. Not the best company. 

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On 5/8/2024 at 3:05 PM, Chalby said:

She's that gal who'll hang with you between boyfriends. But that's it!

This is the quintessential summation of Raquel - utterly brilliant. 

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You guys I finally got through the episodes leading to the season 10 reunion, and Raquel is even worse than I thought she would be. I thought I’d see this sweet, young naive girl perhaps get caught up with the wrong guy and do something completely out of character. She comes across as cold, completely insensitive toward other people’s feelings, and nothing like early Raquel. 

Early Raquel was kind of adorable, and I didn’t like the way the others treated her. She was so cute, and I thought I’d go to her puppy party! Then she is suddenly kissing Peter, kissing Oliver, whatever you want to call it with Schwartz no matter how much it hurts Katie, the nerve to be so defensive when she is called out knowing she’s doing so much worse than what everyone knows. Who is the real Raquel??? I thought I’d have more understanding of her actions after watching the show, but it had the opposite effect on me. She aged out of pageants so she wants to be as messy and hurtful now? She doesn’t have to be a kind person if there is no crown to win? Ariana was nothing but kind to that girl. 

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5 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Early Raquel was kind of adorable, and I didn’t like the way the others treated her. She was so cute, and I thought I’d go to her puppy party! Then she is suddenly kissing Peter, kissing Oliver, whatever you want to call it with Schwartz no matter how much it hurts Katie, the nerve to be so defensive when she is called out knowing she’s doing so much worse than what everyone knows. Who is the real Raquel??? 

Who knows?  She wanted to be on the show and be accepted by the others when James was going through his craziest phase; she did get him to stop drinking; I thought she was quietly clever when she asked to work at the dog place rather than SUR at first, and by the episode of their engagement party she was on top of her game - everyone loved her (except for old "lala" of course, but who cares) - and then she dumped James before the reunion.  Was that her plan all along once she felt ensconced in the show?  or did her "fame" just go to her head? 🤷‍♀️

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30 minutes ago, princelina said:

Who knows?  She wanted to be on the show and be accepted by the others when James was going through his craziest phase; she did get him to stop drinking; I thought she was quietly clever when she asked to work at the dog place rather than SUR at first, and by the episode of their engagement party she was on top of her game - everyone loved her (except for old "lala" of course, but who cares) - and then she dumped James before the reunion.  Was that her plan all along once she felt ensconced in the show?  or did her "fame" just go to her head? 🤷‍♀️

I’m not sure, but season 10 Raquel is like a different person. All the guys on the show always came across as sleazy, but Raquel came across as innocent, naive, timid, then she suddenly has huge balls, doesn’t care about anyone’s feelings no matter how nice they are to her, and she shows next to no emotion other than for herself regarding pageantry. I know her adoption in itself may have been traumatic, but there are people who go through way worse than she ever has who don’t see themselves as victims or feel robbed of not being able to screw around. It’s almost like watching an actress take on two different roles. 

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3 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

It’s almost like watching an actress take on two different roles. 

I think this season of VPR is one of the most fascinating seasons of reality tv I've ever seen.  I honestly found it riveting, and watching Rachel was the majority of the reason why.  The way she questioned Ariana about Tom was insane to me as a viewer - if this had been fiction I would have said it was too unbelievable!! 

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Rachel wanted to become an integral part of the cast (she was not for years), and then she was, and a fan favorite. She had to hold into this, and she became ruthless, which is not uncommon. Fame corrupted her. 

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On 7/10/2024 at 2:11 PM, RealHousewife said:

I’m not sure, but season 10 Raquel is like a different person. All the guys on the show always came across as sleazy, but Raquel came across as innocent, naive, timid, then she suddenly has huge balls, doesn’t care about anyone’s feelings no matter how nice they are to her, and she shows next to no emotion other than for herself regarding pageantry. I know her adoption in itself may have been traumatic, but there are people who go through way worse than she ever has who don’t see themselves as victims or feel robbed of not being able to screw around. It’s almost like watching an actress take on two different roles. 

Yes, exactly. It felt we were watching All About Eve in real time. From people to dogs, the woman cannot be trusted.

 

On 7/13/2024 at 8:13 PM, ZettaK said:

Rachel wanted to become an integral part of the cast (she was not for years), and then she was, and a fan favorite. She had to hold into this, and she became ruthless, which is not uncommon. Fame corrupted her. 

Maybe it corrupted her, or maybe it exposed her. I don't know, but something ain't right there.

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Forgive me if you all already discussed this last year. Raquel sounded really entitled with what she wanted to be paid imo, and I was curious what everyone's thoughts were/are. 

I think it was on Bethany's show when she acted like what she was paid was chump change. Then Lisa Vanderpump said she was paid six figures. Schaena said Raquel made $19,000 per episode, which is $361,000. I also read her salary was more around $20,000 an episode/around $380,000. That is good pay for a newer full-time cast member. 

Raquel said she wanted to be paid what Tom and Ariana did. I know Scandoval made for great ratings, but the other cast members had been there so many years longer. Did she want to be rewarded for her behavior? Did she feel entitled to profits of the merch the others had? I believe in fair pay whether or not I like someone or think he/she is a good person, but I do think seniority is a factor for pay and don't understand what she expected to make post-scandal. 

As far as paying for her mental health treatment, I can see her argument more there. On one hand, Bravo is not responsible for her having an affair with her friend's longterm partner. What she did was really bad, but as a reality star, so was the aftermath. She didn't just deal with drama between the three of them, she had to deal with it publicly. 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/vanderpump-rules-star-raquel-leviss-111533384.html

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26 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

Forgive me if you all already discussed this last year. Raquel sounded really entitled with what she wanted to be paid imo, and I was curious what everyone's thoughts were/are. 

I think it was on Bethany's show when she acted like what she was paid was chump change. Then Lisa Vanderpump said she was paid six figures. Schaena said Raquel made $19,000 per episode, which is $361,000. I also read her salary was more around $20,000 an episode/around $380,000. That is good pay for a newer full-time cast member. 

Raquel said she wanted to be paid what Tom and Ariana did. I know Scandoval made for great ratings, but the other cast members had been there so many years longer. Did she want to be rewarded for her behavior? Did she feel entitled to profits of the merch the others had? I believe in fair pay whether or not I like someone or think he/she is a good person, but I do think seniority is a factor for pay and don't understand what she expected to make post-scandal. 

As far as paying for her mental health treatment, I can see her argument more there. On one hand, Bravo is not responsible for her having an affair with her friend's longterm partner. What she did was really bad, but as a reality star, so was the aftermath. She didn't just deal with drama between the three of them, she had to deal with it publicly. 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/vanderpump-rules-star-raquel-leviss-111533384.html

Rachel would have participated in S11 if the salary (or really the payment per episode) was equal to Ariana and Sandoval's. Her mental health would have suffered because we saw that Ariana (and other cast members, especially Katie who I don't doubt would have verbally attacked her) were not too happy with her. But she would do it, and wanted Bravo to pay for her mental health treatment. Maybe Bravo could have paid for her treatment. As for deserving higher paying for the show, I assume she thought she was responsible (too) for the success of S10. She claimed she didn't participate to protect her mental health, although in reality she didn't like the payment scale. 

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7 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Forgive me if you all already discussed this last year. Raquel sounded really entitled with what she wanted to be paid IMO, and I was curious what everyone's thoughts were/are. 

I honestly don't care about her any more.

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On 8/4/2024 at 6:28 PM, Gharlane said:

I honestly don't care about her any more.

I get that she is old news for some of you, so I didn’t post in the general media thread. I figured anyone in Rachel’s own thread is interested in discussing her. 

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34 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

I get that she is old news for some of you, so I didn’t post in the general media thread. I figured anyone in Rachel’s own thread is interested in discussing her. 

I love reading the opinion of someone who is watching these episodes for the first time! 

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3 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I love reading the opinion of someone who is watching these episodes for the first time! 

Thanks hoodoo! I’m fascinated by how crazy the Vanderpump Rules cast is. 

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38 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

Thanks hoodoo! I’m fascinated by how crazy the Vanderpump Rules cast is. 

They are fascinating! One episode I find compelling is when they film Ariana demonstrating how to create certain cocktails, for her cocktail book, and Sandoval keeps trying to pull the focus to himself.

Another one is when James apologizes to Rand, and Sandoval and Rachel are behind them, laughing and giggling.

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On 8/13/2024 at 11:50 AM, hoodooznoodooz said:

They are fascinating! One episode I find compelling is when they film Ariana demonstrating how to create certain cocktails, for her cocktail book, and Sandoval keeps trying to pull the focus to himself.

Another one is when James apologizes to Rand, and Sandoval and Rachel are behind them, laughing and giggling.

Sandoval horned in on her cocktail book as well.  

I'm still trying to figure out if he and Schwartz have any stake at all in TomTom - I remember this season when Lisa put up "Pump" on one side of the bar and he was miffed that he wasn't "consulted" and I believe Lisa said something to the effect of him having no stake in this. I thought they had pulled out their money to open the strip mall bar.

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12 minutes ago, Carolina Girl said:

I'm still trying to figure out if he and Schwartz have any stake at all in TomTom - I remember this season when Lisa put up "Pump" on one side of the bar and he was miffed that he wasn't "consulted" and I believe Lisa said something to the effect of him having no stake in this. I thought they had pulled out their money to open the strip mall bar.

I remember her offering to buy them out of TomTom for S&S but I do not recall if they ever made a decision or showed it on the show. 

Her statement about them having no say in "Pump Corner" 🙄 was about them only having a 10% share.

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On 8/15/2024 at 7:19 AM, Gharlane said:

I remember her offering to buy them out of TomTom for S&S but I do not recall if they ever made a decision or showed it on the show. 

Her statement about them having no say in "Pump Corner" 🙄 was about them only having a 10% share.

You know I went back and found the quote.  In reference to Sandoval whining about Pump, what she said was she "would never consult at 2.5% partner."  So it appears that he and Schwartz only had a 5% combined stake.  I think when I first heard "5%" I had assumed it was for each one of them, ergo, that they had a total stake of 10%.  Apparently that was the TOTAL.

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On 8/13/2024 at 12:23 PM, RealHousewife said:

I get that she is old news for some of you, so I didn’t post in the general media thread. I figured anyone in Rachel’s own thread is interested in discussing her. 

Right, I’d imagine anyone clicking on her name here has an interest.

I think they should have paid for her mental health treatment, just because the whole affair was purposely blown up to get ratings.  
 

IMO no one should be treated the way she was treated, I think the witch hunt was shameful.

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23 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

Right, I’d imagine anyone clicking on her name here has an interest.

I think they should have paid for her mental health treatment, just because the whole affair was purposely blown up to get ratings.  
 

IMO no one should be treated the way she was treated, I think the witch hunt was shameful.

Yeah, I unfollow threads if I’m no longer interested.

Bravo certainly has the means to do so. I get it you didn’t want to pay her the amount of a more seasoned cast member, but why not pay for the mental health facility? 

On one hand I am team Ariana. I feel bad for everything she went through and that she’s being sued, but I absolutely still think the mental health of both Raquel and Tom matters. IRC, I think you thought Ariana took stuff too far, and I would have been  frightened too if someone who now hated my guts had explicit footage on her phone. But I listened to The Bravo Docket and they mentioned if another person like a Brandi Glanville discovered the video, they probably would have put it out on the internet or something more crazy. So as ugly as it all got, thank God it didn’t get worse. 

I wonder if a positive thing that might come out of the lawsuit is for the men who hear about it to be too scared of legal consequences to record women without their consent. A friend of mine was recorded without her knowledge, and it is horrific. Maybe I’m naive but I don’t really believe Ariana would have ever put the footage out there or that she truly wants the worst for Raquel. I think that was just hurt talking. Tom on the other hand should have never recorded Raquel without her knowledge in the first place. I think having FaceTime sex is stupid, but doing so still doesn’t mean you consent to the interaction being recorded. Really curious how this will all play out. 

Really recommend The Bravo Docket btw. It’s my favorite Bravo podcast other than Watch What Crappens. 

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