I'm So Disappointed In You: Celebrity Missteps

[BetterButter]

Lil Wayne, Chris Brown, and More Misused Millions in COVID-19 Relief Money for Luxury Purchases: Report

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According to accounting documents viewed by Business Insider, artists exploited the Shuttered Venue Operators Grant to pad out their lavish lifestyles

 

[Trini]

I had not been following this feud, but it just escalated: 'Justin Baldoni dropped by agent after Blake Lively harassment complaint'

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Well, that was fast: Within hours of being hit (along with his fellow producers at Wayfarer Studios, and multiple publicists they’d reportedly hired to help manage the story surrounding them) in a lengthy sexual harassment complaint from Blake Lively, It Ends With Us director-star-producer Justin Baldoni has been dropped by his representation at WME. That’s usually the dead canary at the bottom of the coal mine when it comes to a Hollywood performer getting ready to have a pretty bad time; the decision was reportedly (per Deadline) made in the immediate aftermath of Lively’s complaint becoming public.

If you haven’t read said complaint, it is, as they say, a doozy, running to 62 pages, and alleging two separate levels of bad behavior on the part of Baldoni and his co-producer on the film, Jamey Heath.  <...>

 

[Blergh]

On 12/12/2024 at 11:22 PM, Vermicious Knid said:

Luckily, Levi is too old to appear in the live actionTangled that was just announced. 

Morgan Wallen pleads guilty in chair-throwing incident, will serve 7 days at a DUI education center and two years probation. Maybe they can throw in some racial sensitivity training at the same time. 

7 days?!  That's a tiny fraction of how long it would have taken for any hapless pedestrian to have been hospitalized had that thrown chair from 6 floors above injured them- to say nothing of said chair possibly KILLING a pedestrian had that landed on them and their loved ones' lives NEVER being the same!

Does anyone truly believe that had this been a non-celeb who'd been convicted of throwing that chair that they'd have only gotten that pittance of a wrist-slap regardless of their sobriety or lack thereof?

Oh, and I'm not also overlooking those fans who eagerly overlooked that crime (along with his vile racist slurs being caught on tape) to pay monies to pack his live-action concerts thereafter!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited December 23, 2024 by Blergh

[Bastet]

Prosecutors dropped their appeal of the dismissal of the case against Alec Baldwin

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SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — New Mexico prosecutors won’t pursue an appeal of a court’s decision to dismiss an involuntary manslaughter charge against Alec Baldwin in the fatal shooting on a cinematographer on the set of a Western movie, the Santa Fe district attorney’s office announced Monday.

Special Prosecutor Kari Morrissey withdrew the appeal of a July decision at trial to dismiss the charge against Baldwin in the death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins during a rehearsal on set for the movie “Rust” outside Santa Fe in October 2021.

“Today’s decision to dismiss the appeal is the final vindication of what Alec Baldwin and his attorneys have said from the beginning — this was an unspeakable tragedy but Alec Baldwin committed no crime,” said defense attorneys Luke Nikas and Alex Spiro. “The rule of law remains intact in New Mexico.”

Representatives for the state attorney general could not be be reached immediately.

The decision to drop the appeal solidifies the decision by Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer halfway through trial to dismiss the case on allegations that police and prosecutors withheld evidence from the defense.

 

[Vermicious Knid]

Joshua Jackson has not been paying child support.

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Jodie Turner-Smith is seeking support from Joshua Jackson. 

According to a new court filing from The Agency actress—who shares 4-year-old daughter Juno with her estranged husband—the Dawson's Creek alum has not been paying child support amid their ongoing divorce proceedings.

In the documents submitted Dec. 23 and obtained by TMZ and Us Weekly, Turner-Smith, 38, states that Jackson, 46, "promised to always support me and ensured me that I would not have to worry about financial security for our daughter if we ever separated because he said he understood how difficult life can be as a Black woman and a single mother."...

Per Us Weekly, citing Turner-Smith's new filing, she's requesting that Joshua pay $8,543 "per month retroactive to the date of her initial filing," $28,641 a month in spousal support "while their divorce is still pending" and $250,000 for attorney fees and other legal costs.

 

[Trini]

4 minutes ago, Vermicious Knid said:

Joshua Jackson has not been paying child support.

Just from the info there, seems like they're still in the process of negotiating the details, and it probably isn't willful neglect.

[tearknee]

15 minutes ago, Trini said:

Just from the info there, seems like they're still in the process of negotiating the details, and it probably isn't willful neglect.

Yes. You can't be delinquent in CS if it hasn't even been ordered yet. Also, when it comes to a celebrity divorce, never believe either the man or the woman about what may have been promised to the other.

[Irlandesa]

I don't know anything about child support but wouldn't there be something temporary in place?  These divorces can take a long time and I always thought child support was negotiated separately. 

It's not like he wouldn't owe child support had they never married and, therefore, didn't need to officially divorce. 

[Blergh]

FWIW, if Mr. Jackson HAS been paying support  for his pre-school daughter in spite of his estranged wife Ms. Turner-Smith's claims, he and/or his legal team could easily produce receipts of payments to disprove those allegations regardless of whatever else may be alleged re why their union went asunder.

I always say LISTEN to each side carefully (regardless of one's previous personal likes or dislikes re the parties in question) - then apply the Judge Judy rule of re which side makes sense and which side DOESN'T and if it doesn't make sense, then it's a lie!

[Milburn Stone]

16 hours ago, Bastet said:

SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — New Mexico prosecutors won’t pursue an appeal of a court’s decision to dismiss an involuntary manslaughter charge against Alec Baldwin in the fatal shooting on a cinematographer on the set of a Western movie, the Santa Fe district attorney’s office announced Monday.

I just feel bad that Alec Baldwin had to carry this with him for an extra five months after the judge dismissed the charge. 

What was the D.A. thinking? That Baldwin deserved to endure more hell?

I suppose the D.A. was doing it to save face. If they dropped the case after the dismissal--which was based on the prosecutors withholding pertinent evidence from the defense--they would be tacitly admitting "yeah, we withheld pertinent evidence from the defense. Our bad." But that's not enough reason to torture someone.

 

Edited December 25, 2024 by Milburn Stone

[merylinkid]

13 hours ago, Trini said:

Just from the info there, seems like they're still in the process of negotiating the details, and it probably isn't willful neglect.

The kid still needs support whether there is an agreement or an order in place.   The parent should be paying something even if its not the final amount.   A good lawyer could give an estimate of what they should be paying even if there is no final number.

Its not like kids suddenly don't need food, clothing and other things just because the parents haven't negotiated a number yet.   Good parents don't have to be told this.

[Dimity]

10 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

Its not like kids suddenly don't need food, clothing and other things just because the parents haven't negotiated a number yet.   Good parents don't have to be told this.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on this but in this specific case I really don't think the child is doing without.  Far from it.  But that said this doesn't mean Jackson should be sliding on his obligations.

[Raja]

3 hours ago, Milburn Stone said:

I just feel bad that Alec Baldwin had to carry this with him for an extra five months after the judge dismissed the charge. 

What was the D.A. thinking? That Baldwin deserved to endure more hell?

I suppose the D.A. was doing it to save face. If they dropped the case after the dismissal--which was based on the prosecutors withholding pertinent evidence from the defense--they would be tacitly admitting "yeah, we withheld pertinent evidence from the defense. Our bad." But that's not enough reason to torture someone.

 

Looking at the time line but being outside of that voting precinct it looks like an elected office showing off to the voters. Even if they knew there was little or zero chance to overturn an outright dismissal of charges 

[tearknee]

11 hours ago, Dimity said:

I wholeheartedly agree with you on this but in this specific case I really don't think the child is doing without.  Far from it.  But that said this doesn't mean Jackson should be sliding on his obligations.

Or her if the situation was reversed.

But things are different when it's a celebrity break-up. And i am pissed at her using the real issue of single Black moms trapped in poverty to try to gain leverage, as most single Black moms aren't abandoned by rich guys or divorce rich guys. Cynically using progressive concerns and rhetoric to ensure her future will be comfy = shitty.

Edited December 26, 2024 by tearknee
right meant to be a second "rich"

[Notabug]

12 hours ago, Dimity said:

I wholeheartedly agree with you on this but in this specific case I really don't think the child is doing without.  Far from it.  But that said this doesn't mean Jackson should be sliding on his obligations.

It could well be that Jackson and Turner are not in agreement as to how much child support he should be paying and she has refused any payment from him so as not to lead the judge in the case to believe that she agrees with what is being offered.  If she accepts a lesser amount than what she is saying she needs, it can be viewed as a tacit agreement that his offer is sufficient.  He may well be putting child support in an escrow account with his attorney pending the court's ruling.

And, yes, Ms Turner Smith has quite a successful career as a model and actress and it is really disingenuous of her to even suggest that her potential problems are anywhere close to what so many black women of lower socioeconomic status suffer.  I would expect she is a millionaire in her own right.

[Trini]

1 hour ago, Notabug said:

And, yes, Ms Turner Smith has quite a successful career as a model and actress and it is really disingenuous of her to even suggest that her potential problems are anywhere close to what so many black women of lower socioeconomic status suffer.  I would expect she is a millionaire in her own right.

Why are we assuming the worst of her when it's Jackson's words she's referring to? (And that's not even what she said anyhow.)

And even with money (and we don't know her bank accounts), I'd argue it's still a struggle being Black, a woman, and a single mother.

[tearknee]

On 2/14/2023 at 5:42 AM, Wiendish Fitch said:

You know what I have yet to see? An apology campaign for Sinead O'Connor, who 31 years ago tore up a picture of the Pope on SNL in protest of the Catholic church. Despite the horrific truth about the Catholic church that was exposed years later, not one person seems to care that O'Connor's career was well and truly destroyed. No one cares that she was genuinely hurt by the Catholic church (she's the most famous inmate of the Magdalene laundries). No one cares that she has since lost a child. Something she did 31 years ago (that's downright innocuous when you think about it) will forever haunt and taint her image. 

That is "cancellation". Everyone else can quit their damn whining. 

 

(your post came up in the sidebar thing)

 

John Paul II as Palpatine and Sinead as Mace Windu? :'(

[Notabug]

4 hours ago, Trini said:

Why are we assuming the worst of her when it's Jackson's words she's referring to? (And that's not even what she said anyhow.)

And even with money (and we don't know her bank accounts), I'd argue it's still a struggle being Black, a woman, and a single mother.

I didn’t say that being a single parent, black or not, isn’t difficult; just that Ms Turner’s situation is far less difficult than that of a typical black woman since she is in the upper echelon as far as income and it does appear that her estranged husband is willing to support his child financially and otherwise.

[Notabug]

4 hours ago, Trini said:

Why are we assuming the worst of her when it's Jackson's words she's referring to? (And that's not even what she said anyhow.)

And even with money (and we don't know her bank accounts), I'd argue it's still a struggle being Black, a woman, and a single mother.

If you read the article, it is about a court filing from Ms Turner Smith’s legal team.    We’re not taking Jackson’s word for anything, just suspecting that there is more to the story than what is in the court record. BTW, the filing itself is pretty typical of the sort of filings in these cases, other than the assertion that Ms Turner Smith’s situation is comparable to that of the typical black single mother.

i expect they will ultimately come to an agreement that is acceptable to all parties and we can only hope they can be at least outwardly amicable for the sake of their child.

[Trini]

19 hours ago, tearknee said:

previous posters are not assuming the 'worst' of her, we just know when someone is trying to manipulate us, and we do not like it.

Who is the "us" that she is supposedly trying to "manipulate"?? She filed a typical request for support that had nothing to do with anyone else not involved.

15 hours ago, Notabug said:

I didn’t say that being a single parent, black or not, isn’t difficult; just that Ms Turner’s situation is far less difficult than that of a typical black woman since she is in the upper echelon as far as income and it does appear that her estranged husband is willing to support his child financially and otherwise.

Again, we don't know her life or bank accounts.

15 hours ago, Notabug said:

other than the assertion that Ms Turner Smith’s situation is comparable to that of the typical black single mother.

She herself hasn't made that assertion. In any case, there are other issues outside of finances.

[I mean, look how fast this story went from 'Jackson doesn't pay child support' to 'Turner-Smith is a manipulator'.]

[tearknee]

i don't take people at face value simply because they are from a group marginalized by society (an aside: see the campaigning about the Nakba and conveniently not mentioning the Arab leadership in Mandatory Palestine also refused the Peel Commission's 1937 proposed partition which would have given the Jews 20% and Arabs 80% of Mandate Palestine - hardly unjust).

She decided to use the issue of poor black single mothers in a laughably transparent attempt to gain leverage in the court of public opinion.

A shitty move, whatever your color, creed, race or gender/enby/agender.

 

[Irlandesa]

"She" didn't do anything. Considering the filing requests 250K in legal fees, I think it's safe to assume that her very expensive lawyer(s) wrote the filing. And as lawyers tend to do, they write to make their client sound like the victim of the person they're suing. 

And I imagine Jackson's lawyers will file their defense of how reasonable their client is in the face of astronomical requests for child and spousal support when she herself is a working actress on a show that has been renewed for a second season while their client's show could render him jobless should it not be renewed.  And so on and so on.

They'll wrangle a bit in front of the judge and it might seep out to the media, the judge will determine what she is owed and that will be that. 

Edited December 27, 2024 by Irlandesa

[Trini]

4 hours ago, tearknee said:

She decided to use the issue of poor black single mothers in a laughably transparent attempt to gain leverage in the court of public opinion.

No she didn't.

[tearknee]

Even if her lawyers wrote the filing, they would have got her approval for the wording.

[Dimity]

11 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

They'll wrangle a bit in front of the judge and it might seep out to the media, the judge will determine what she is owed and that will be that. 

Exactly.  The only one here that doesn't look good IMO is Jackson if it is actually true that he has paid no child support up to this point.  Also is it clear whether he has seen his child?  Because "shouting out" at an awards ceremony doesn't really count as far as I'm concerned.

[Irlandesa]

11 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Also is it clear whether he has seen his child?

Some other articles have more information and the filing says they have followed a 50/50 split custody agreement so it sounds like this isn't about a custody arrangement but rather a financial one. 

[merylinkid]

On 12/27/2024 at 7:15 AM, tearknee said:

Even if her lawyers wrote the filing, they would have got her approval for the wording.

Yeah no.   Lawyers do not ask for permission for every word.   Yes, if something has to be signed by the client they review it.   But do you know how many people just sign and then later say "I didn't read it, why did we say that?"

[Makai]

Until more information comes out, I am inclined to see this just as standard legal wrangling with lawyers advising each side to not pay/not accept until there is an official ruling. 

When she initially filed she did not ask for child support and waived spousal support. It seems like they intended to negotiate it privately but could not come to terms they both agreed on. They both make more than  enough to support the child lavishly while the details are worked out. 

I don’t put a lot of stock into dramatic headlines trying to elicit outrage. Reading details of her filing it seems like there are potential points of contention. He generally has a higher average income but she has had recent higher profile work causing her to have higher income in recent months and some of her expenses are astronomical (40k a month in rent).

[merylinkid]

20 hours ago, Makai said:

some of her expenses are astronomical (40k a month in rent)

Room enough for the kid (not cheap), safe location (not cheap), security as these are celebrities, so gated community (really really not cheap).   these are basic necessities, not just someone being a diva and wanting the live the high life.   The last one -- a secure place so the kid doesn't get kidnapped is really really really important.   

[Makai]

2 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Room enough for the kid (not cheap), safe location (not cheap), security as these are celebrities, so gated community (really really not cheap).   these are basic necessities, not just someone being a diva and wanting the live the high life.   The last one -- a secure place so the kid doesn't get kidnapped is really really really important.   

I’m not judging her or saying that she is wrong to live where she is currently living, wherever that is. I am only pointing out that it is a realistic point of contention when figuring out how much support is owed.

There is no world where I won’t find $40,000 a month in rent to not be astronomical high. It’s an economic judgement rather than a value judgment. 

[Notabug]

6 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Room enough for the kid (not cheap), safe location (not cheap), security as these are celebrities, so gated community (really really not cheap).   these are basic necessities, not just someone being a diva and wanting the live the high life.   The last one -- a secure place so the kid doesn't get kidnapped is really really really important.   

Do we know that her expenses are typical for a celeb at her level?  $40 grand a month is half a million bucks a year; I really don't think a lot of celebs in her realm need to spend that amount for shelter and safety.  I expect that her living expenses are mostly geared towards allowing her to live at a certain level of amenities and style in her preferred location.  Nothing wrong with that, but I seriously doubt that the bulk of her expenses required for the safety and protection of her child.  If she's got the money, she can spend it however she likes, of course.

I recall Prince Harry claiming that he required $6 million a year for security for his family and mutiple security experts claiming that was twice the typical expenditure for the services he wanted.  There are needs and there are wants.

[andromeda331]

I just hope that despite the court proceedings about child support, that he is and has been paying child support.

[Irlandesa]

10 hours ago, Makai said:

I’m not judging her or saying that she is wrong to live where she is currently living, wherever that is. I am only pointing out that it is a realistic point of contention when figuring out how much support is owed.

Again, I know very little about support but even though we got her financial details, that doesn't necessarily mean that's how a judge will decide how much spousal support she deserves.  From what I understand, there are usually formulas.  If she were to get a cheaper or more expensive place to live, it probably wouldn't affect the support amount. 

[Makai]

3 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

Again, I know very little about support but even though we got her financial details, that doesn't necessarily mean that's how a judge will decide how much spousal support she deserves.  From what I understand, there are usually formulas.  If she were to get a cheaper or more expensive place to live, it probably wouldn't affect the support amount. 

Absolutely. I was really using that to point out reasons they could have difficulty agreeing on what is a reasonable amount without involving the courts. 

4 hours ago, andromeda331 said:

I just hope that despite the court proceedings about child support, that he is and has been paying child support.

He hasn’t been but she also didn’t request it when she filed for divorce. They have 50/50 custody so both are supporting their daughter. It just hasn’t been decided how much child support is needed to maintain the same quality of life between the two households. 

[Dimity]

Kate Beckinsale Shares Her Experiences With On-Set Abuse, Says Blake Lively Revealed a ‘Machine That Goes Into Effect When a Woman Complains’

[Jaded]

Armie Hammer likens scandal to kink-shaming, talks deluge of bad press and living in a 'tiny-ass apartment'

Armie Hammer Says His Acting Career Has Picked Up So Much He’s ‘Turning Jobs Down’

[Trini]

So, update: Blake Lively is officially suing Justin Baldoni and his PR team, and Baldoni is suing the NY Times.  (Both articles mention both.)