Current Plots Discussion II: Discussing Today's Episode and Current Storylines

[CanaryFan98]

22 hours ago, DaphneCat said:

I'm talking about after Eric returned the child.  EJ DID have a DNA test run to double check that Sloan wasn't lying to him.  THAT is what Stephan found in the DiMeara safe - the actual DNA results saying that Jude was Eric's.

Ok that makes a lot more sense now I forgot about that

18 minutes ago, Rodney said:

Today was okay.  Looks like Chad, for the most part, gave his forgiveness to Cat.  I guess seeing that she was telling the truth about her mother really altered his thinking of her.  Though the big surprise was Cat saying that she ran into Jack and Jennifer and the latter didn't slap her or scream at her again.

J.J. and Gabi are being set up for another round?  I wouldn't be against it, though I do wonder if Casey's on contract now?

Oh, of course Sophia shows up again to say that she's pregnant.  Of course.  But is it Tate's?

Is Sophia actually pregnant? I could see her faking it.

I believe Casey is recurring but he's still filming. I think JJ/Gabi are fine for a short term thing. I expect Stefan to return at some point.

17 hours ago, boes said:

Second favorite part of the Show for me today was gloriously chuckling, self-satisfied EJ, playing district attorney as if he was in a high end stakes game of Risk.  There's something about Dan leaning in to EJ's joy about being an evil prick that just makes me smile.

Total Favorite part of the Show today, though, was Belle, just as joyously, pricking EJ's vengence balloon and taking all the air out of it.  Both of them had a bounce in their step I haven't seen for quite some time.

So how exactly does a time capsule, buried in a grave, exactly work?  Anyone digging it up in the future is going to look like a grave robber.  Not that that's exactly unbelievable in Salem.

Also, why would a Horton time capsule now be devoted solely to the memory of Abigail?  Or does her annoying personality cancel everyone else out even after death?

I was hoping somebody would have remembered to throw her virginity ring in there with the rest of the stuff.

 

I thought the Abby stuff was in addition to the rest of the Horton items? I might've been hearing something else.

[DisneyBoy]

16 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

I believe Casey is recurring but he's still filming. I think JJ/Gabi are fine for a short term thing. I expect Stefan to return at some point.

I don't mind if it's short-term as long as it's a good relationship that doesn't demonize her. She needs to be normal for a while.

If this is purely to stall before Stefan comes back then JJ is just getting the Lucas treatment. 

Hopefully the new regime changes Ron's plans and leaves Stefan out of the series going forward. He brings nothing.

[Artsda]

Bennifer? Lol yes great example to look at now. 

 

[SouthernChick]

Was glad to see Chad forgive Cat. 

[CanaryFan98]

22 hours ago, Artsda said:

Bennifer? Lol yes great example to look at now. 

 

Was probably filmed before they split but I agree.

[Rodney]

21 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Was probably filmed before they split but I agree.

They split again?  Never heard anything about that.

[oceanblue]

Yeah they split after about 5 minutes

[SouthernChick]

I liked Brady and Ava’s “date”. They have a cute chemistry.

[DisneyBoy]

I'm catching up today and I have to ask: how many freaking funerals must Abigail have? Dear Lord.

Why would the time capsule be buried at her gravesite when they're still waiting to find out when where her body is? Aren't they just going to have to dig the grave up again once they find it?

This is the most nonsensical, falsely sentimental empty gesture they could have shoehorned in.

They could have just kept the box on a shelf in the Horton living room and then figured out where to put it. Besides, putting something in a grave probably means it's never going to be seen again by anyone.

Did they take out all of the stuff that was in there previously? Or are they burying all of those treasures from Grandma Alice along with this stuff as well?

Plus there's still the issue of the necklace that was stolen, right? So...are they putting that in the box again if they can?

Wouldn't they have buried some private items, like letters or pictures, with Abigail the first time she was put to rest?

I just can't make sense of this.

And then - did you guys see this? - Chad just put the box on top of the tombstone without digging! Like, it wasn't even in the ground or anything! Are the squirrels going to nibble at it and eat the treats inside now?

I'd laugh but it's just so hokey.

This show is obsessed with Abigail. And I swear if these are anvils because they plan on recasting her yet again and bringing her back for the umpteenth time, I would really like them to reconsider because nobody gives a shit at this point. For real.

Abigail brought nothing to the show but needless drama about who gets to bang her and I'm sorry to say that... but it's the truth. She was never some great, brilliant journalist or some wonderful member of society and she dragged Chad down as a character.

The sooner the show admits that and moves on, the better.

Plus, I find it really tacky that in the aftermath of Doug's death, they're somehow turning the family's grief back into grief for Abigail. Like, can we just focus on the fact that Doug is dead? For Real dead? Never going to come back to the show dead?

Enough's enough!

[DaphneCat]

15 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

She was never some great, brilliant journalist or some wonderful member of society and she dragged Chad down as a character.

I want to like this post 1,000 times.  All this total garbage about how she was such a wonderful person, and EVERYONE just loved her is just that - TOTAL GARBAGE.  It was pretty funny when Cat was pretending to be her and everyone kept telling her about Abigail having sex with pretty much every male DiMeara except Stefano.  Let's not forget about cheating on Ben and basically stalking EJ while pretending to be Sami's friend - yet somehow she ended up being the victim in all that.

 

15 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Plus, I find it really tacky that in the aftermath of Doug's death, they're somehow turning the family's grief back into grief for Abigail. Like, can we just focus on the fact that Doug is dead? For Real dead? Never going to come back to the show dead?

Other than a few mentions in passing it seems like Doug has been completely forgotten.  Terrible treatment of someone who actually DID become a well loved and admirable character.   Probably one of the reasons Hope had to leave so soon - she really couldn't even PRETEND to care that Abigail's body is missing.

 

 

[CanaryFan98]

Did anyone come here earlier in the day and noticed how wonky this forum was? 

I see it's back to normal now.

I do wish the show would make a decision where they stand with Abigail either move on from her or recast the character.  It makes you wonder why they killed off the character in the first place if they didn't know whether they wanted to move on from her or not. 

As for Brady/Ava I do think the actors have decent chemistry however like Kristen Ava is a sociopath(but way more watchable in comparison). They could've just brought TB back as Taylor again and pair her with Brady. Why is it so hard to pair Brady with a sane woman?

 

Edited Saturday at 11:51 PM by CanaryFan98

[sas616]

On 12/21/2024 at 2:15 AM, DisneyBoy said:

This show is obsessed with Abigail. And I swear if these are anvils because they plan on recasting her yet again and bringing her back for the umpteenth time, I would really like them to reconsider because nobody gives a shit at this point.

Except at this point, I'd prefer Chad to be with Abigail than with Kat, because it looks like the anvils are falling in that direction for sure.   I'm no fan of Abigail, but I'd take her over scrunched-up face Kat.

[nilyank]

14 hours ago, sas616 said:

Except at this point, I'd prefer Chad to be with Abigail than with Kat, because it looks like the anvils are falling in that direction for sure.   I'm no fan of Abigail, but I'd take her over scrunched-up face Kat.

I would just get rid of Chad so there would be zero chance that Abigail comes back from the dead again.

[Rodney]

Surprise on Friday?  Hearing from Brady that Chez Rouge still exists, even though we haven't seen Maggie there in over a decade now.

[DaphneCat]

Brady REALLY doesn't have the Salem brain today.  He should have told Kristen that he owes a really big thanks to whoever sabotaged his date because neither one of them enjoyed it when they tried to stream it.  If they had actually made it to the performance, it would have been a completely boring disaster of a date.  Luckily, it was saved by them being able to turn it off.

[CanaryFan98]

21 hours ago, nilyank said:

I would just get rid of Chad so there would be zero chance that Abigail comes back from the dead again.

I think they would bring Abigail back anyways because she's a Horton female and would be able to exist without him because of it.

However they should've given Chad/Abby a HEA back when Marcie left because they clearly don't want to write for Chad without Abby. 

[SouthernChick]

I don’t get why Jada was being a bitch to Rafe, just because he got to Hattie first. It’s not like the police can’t question her.

[ASpring1900]

Spoiler

Fake Rafe

is back! I loved this storyline, so I am in. 

Merry Christmas, everyone!

[DaphneCat]

16 hours ago, SouthernChick said:

I don’t get why Jada was being a bitch to Rafe, just because he got to Hattie first. It’s not like the police can’t question her.

Suddenly they're trying to change the narrative that Rafe has a problem reporting to women.  He doesn't.  His problem is that he was injured on the job and DEMOTED simply because Paulina  wanted the optics of the first Black female commissioner.  If this had come after he screwed up on a case it could have been acceptable.  As it is, it just looks bad.

[Rodney]

So Rafe 2/Arnold Feniger actually survived his attack in police lockup all those years ago, and was shuttled off to Argentina, living off the DiMera money?  Interesting.  So that lockup fight that "killed" him was staged by Stefano and E.J.  Or at least rewritten to fit that narrative.  I can believe it.

I hope that this isn't leading to yet another doppelganger switch story.

I'm sorry that Nicole's not here for this storyline, considering that her mother, Fay, died at his hands thirteen years ago.

[CanaryFan98]

1 hour ago, Rodney said:

So Rafe 2/Arnold Feniger actually survived his attack in police lockup all those years ago, and was shuttled off to Argentina, living off the DiMera money?  Interesting.  So that lockup fight that "killed" him was staged by Stefano and E.J.  Or at least rewritten to fit that narrative.  I can believe it.

I hope that this isn't leading to yet another doppelganger switch story.

I'm sorry that Nicole's not here for this storyline, considering that her mother, Fay, died at his hands thirteen years ago.

Yeah that would've been good. I also hate that Faye was killed off she would've been a better match for Abe than Paulina has been.

There's Holly but it won't be the same.

[Rodney]

21 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Yeah that would've been good. I also hate that Faye was killed off she would've been a better match for Abe than Paulina has been.

There's Holly but it won't be the same.

Holly wasn't even born when that happened.

[oceanblue]

can someone tell me about Fake Rafe?  I was taking a break

[brisbydog]

33 minutes ago, oceanblue said:

can someone tell me about Fake Rafe?  I was taking a break

EJ substituted him for real Rafe and was happy knowing Sami was essentially being raped. It was all about the kids preferring Rafe to him. Then he was murdered in jail by inmates with a grudge against the real one. Retconned today.

[DisneyBoy]

Did Arnold enjoy being Fake Rafe and raping Sami? Was he mean to her kids? How was he found out?

...was he even Latino to begin with or did he race swap too?

 

Today's episode was so boring. So much for a nice Xmas Eve plot.

 

[nilyank]

2 hours ago, brisbydog said:

EJ substituted him for real Rafe and was happy knowing Sami was essentially being raped. It was all about the kids preferring Rafe to him. Then he was murdered in jail by inmates with a grudge against the real one. Retconned today.

Rafe got into a car accident on his way from the hospital when Johnny had eye cancer and got an artificial eye.

Stefano replaced Rafe with a fake Rafe who he paid to get surgery to look like Rafe. EJ did not find out what his father did until he found Rafe locked up in a dungeon.

At that point, EJ ordered FakeRafe to act like a bigger jackass than the real Rafe so that Sami would dump him and end Rafe being near the kids. Allie was afraid of Fake Rafe and she was sent overseas to Lucas. The show then had EJ being totally fine with Fake Rafe sleeping with Sami without being jealous or angry about it. Which we knew he wasn't totally fine with that when it was Rafe that was involved with Sami.

[boes]

10 hours ago, DaphneCat said:

Suddenly they're trying to change the narrative that Rafe has a problem reporting to women.  He doesn't.  His problem is that he was injured on the job and DEMOTED simply because Paulina  wanted the optics of the first Black female commissioner.  If this had come after he screwed up on a case it could have been acceptable.  As it is, it just looks bad.

Thanks for pointing that out so well.  It pissed me off when Paulina dismissed Rafe that way almost as much as how she dismissed him from his job after he got injured ON the job.  I wish Jada had pushed back on Paulina more than she did.

Somebody needs to slip some superglue in her lip gloss.

[brisbydog]

I thought today was lovely. Great use of history with Xander giving Sarah the red shoes. Sweet moment with Shawn and Maggie. He's kind of the forgotten Victor grandchild. And the Horton house scenes were perfect, especially seeing a real Victoria and Jack and Xander making amends. The final scene with a classic Julie and Doug flashback was really good, as was Clan Deveraux putting Doug 3 on notice. Only buzz kill was the boring pub stuff with dull Tate and Holly.

[4evaQuez]

Maggie and Shawn were a pleasant surprise.

Oh Doug you'll fit right in the Horton clan as a potential serial killer. They already have one serial killer (Ben), a rapist (Jack), and a violent thug (Xander), one more criminal to pass the orange juice at the breakfast table won't make a bit of difference.

Were Jack and Xander making up supposed to be our Christmas miracle? Did the show ever acknowledge Xander's role in keeping a presumed dead Jack away from his family for years, or are we supposed to pretend that taking the paper is the most atrocious thing Xander has ever done to Jack?

Speaking of, does Holly know that Xander kidnapped her and faked her death as a child while he held her mother hostage and Kristen stole Nicole's identity? That Xander is such boys will be boys rascal.

How cute of Xander to buy Sarah red shoes in honor of Mickey and Maggie Horton's love story. I wonder how Mickey's spirit feels about Xander's role in covering up his namesake's death, switching her with Rachel, and Maggie's guilt of thinking she played a role in the car wreck that killed Adrienne, driving her to contemplate and attempt suicide. At least Xander bought some ugly red shoes.

Anyway, I like the idea of Shawn and JJ being partners. 

I was happy the show told us how Shawn and Doug III were related. I was about to start doing the family history, and the show saved me about 82 minutes of my life.

I didn't realize Parker had a Horton ornament, and I thought it was strange how the show lingered on his and Daniel's ornament first. I wonder if that's a foreshadowing of a potential arrival of the character. It would give Joy someone to interact with.

Speaking of, I hope the show gives Holly and Joy some scenes together. Chloe is Holly's surrogate mom and was her legal mother several times. I think a surrogate aunt/niece relationship could be beneficial for both.

I wish Julie slapped Xander.

Edited 4 hours ago by 4evaQuez

[DisneyBoy]

1 hour ago, 4evaQuez said:

Speaking of, does Holly know that Xander kidnapped her and faked her death as a child while he held her mother hostage and Kristen stole Nicole's identity? That Xander is such boys will be boys rascal.

She never even looked up her father's death online. I question sometimes how much Holly is aware of anything.

I don't care about the Jack Xander friendship at all. If it involves Gwen, can you blame me?

1 hour ago, 4evaQuez said:

At least Xander bought some ugly red shoes.

Can they stop trotting out homages to this classic story? I'm not protective over it, but still, it's so lazy. They did it with Victor and Maggie a few years ago too. Be original.

[Rodney]

39 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

Can they stop trotting out homages to this classic story? I'm not protective over it, but still, it's so lazy. They did it with Victor and Maggie a few years ago too. Be original.

And why did they have to use Xander for this one?  I do like him, but he's far from fitting to use for that homage.