Inmate To Roommate - General Discussion

[Jeanne222]

DQ is just an accident waiting to happen. He’s just so immature. Getting a crazy lady pregnant another bad choice. DQ should sit on Dr Henry’s lap for a while and learn some life lessons. 
 

Mark was doing ok with the heave ho of Bill until he started boo hooing!  Get over it Mark!  Bill is not a loss. 
 

So will the momma let her daughter visit daddy at lady with 13 screws in her necks home?

 I hope they all come back. I’ve got questions!

[Mothra]

I wish we had been given a timeline for each of the returning citizens, like how long it took the ones who were paying for their own living quarters to earn that kind of money--what happened to them since we last saw them.

God bless Dr. Henry.  As soon as I saw that ultrasound, I thought Oh no, DQ, you're not ready to support a family.  But Dr. Henry is right:  this is what DQ wants and he has found a way forward with his life.  My middle-class white woman's response is simply irrelevant.  I hope DQ continues to thrive and to stay out of trouble.

Poor Mark.  I understand how he felt he had failed William Steal--as others have posted, why couldn't William Steal have a little refrigerator of his own?  Why did he have to be a vegetarian if it wasn't part of his beliefs?  I don't mean eat meat in front of them, but have the opportunity to keep his own food separate from theirs.  And ice, for god's sake!  What was their objection to his having ice (other than to preserve his forbidden meat sandwiches)?  OTO William Steal is imo a real a-hole in three part harmony.

But did we ever find out what's really going on with the toilet paper?

Sandra recognized a user because I suspect she was one herself at one time.  Something I remember from Artie Lange on Howard Stern's radio show, long ago:  "Addicts lie."  And Nick did.

Artie is a lovely person, and her offer of her own home for what's-his-face to have supervised visits with his daughter was pure kindness.  If I'm ever in big trouble, I hope there's an Artie to help me out.

[Auntie Anxiety]

I loved this show! If there is a second season, I would definitely consider participating in a live chat. 

DQ fathering a baby with a crazy woman? What could possibly go wrong?

Bill is an enormous asshole, yet somehow managed to get Mark to apologize. I’d welcome a go at him; I have too much experience with people like him and know how to handle douchebags.

[TeapotWakeen]

23 hours ago, Mothra said:

as others have posted, why couldn't William Steal have a little refrigerator of his own?  Why did he have to be a vegetarian if it wasn't part of his beliefs? 

Who would buy Bill a small fridge? Dude already skipped out on owing them a lot of money. He sure wasn't going to buy it himself! And I don't know how much money his CA girlfriend and her mom were sending him. (She sure looked better in her photo in the pool without the eyebrows drawn on!)

He knew they were vegetarians when he moved in with them, and they didn't require that he didn't eat meat, just not in their home/fridge. This is a core belief for a lot of 7DA, not just random "fuck with Bill" rules.

Dude would have been evicted the second he installed a lock on a bedroom in my house without permission or without an emergency key provided.

[Chalby]

On 10/20/2022 at 7:15 PM, sainte-chapelle said:

Personal support workers ( if that is what they do) are criminally underpaid. Helping the sick and elderly with day to day tasks is hard work. If Bill snarked on that then he is an asshole.

It amuses me that Bill would mock any job. He is living 20 years in the past, not realizing he should be grateful if he could get any job like theirs. That being said, mark and Shawna treated Bill as "less than" the moment he entered their home. Their moral arrogance was appalling. Bill's kneejerk reactions showed him to be immature and stunted at age 16-19? Accusing her of "dressing inappropriately"? Please... like any woman would be pining after him?

On 10/22/2022 at 7:28 PM, Auntie Anxiety said:

I loved this show! If there is a second season, I would definitely consider participating in a live chat. 

DQ fathering a baby with a crazy woman? What could possibly go wrong?

Bill is an enormous asshole, yet somehow managed to get Mark to apologize. I’d welcome a go at him; I have too much experience with people like him and know how to handle douchebags.

Bill figures if he talks fast, and talks over people, he'll win any argument. He's an ungrateful ass, but mark and Shawna are also talk over people when they don't like what's said.

[Chalby]

On 8/26/2022 at 7:12 AM, candall said:

Maybe Darquavion had a shot if the psychiatrist hadn't been such a mess himself.  At least those two had some kind of pre-existing mentor relationship.

I think Henry wasn't a personal "mess" but more so unkempt. I know many men who are clever and hold great jobs, but have no interest in doing housework. Henry has different priorities, and after the first episode, you could see he made an effort to clear the clutter for DQ

On 8/29/2022 at 1:29 PM, LEILANI2 said:

I just found WILLIAM/Bill on Reddit. He's posting in the sub lol. Gonna go read it alL in case it gets deleted.

UPDATE: I don't know what to think..here's his website. Judge for yourself.

https://williamsteelauthor.com/index.html

I laughed when I read that he's a wrongful conviction advocate. He wouldn't know what a wrongful conviction looks like.

[Chalby]

On 8/26/2022 at 9:58 AM, lu1535 said:

All of the scenarios are outrageous (my kind of show ❤️) but the one that blew my mind is the lady who is taking hard core pain killers letting a convicted drug trafficker into her home! You can't make this stuff up! 😵

The only concern I had was if the daughter comes over. I would assume her meds are well locked up, but sometimes she appears extremely (too) high.

Edited October 25, 2022 by Chalby

[Chalby]

On 8/26/2022 at 11:13 AM, Chloe Dog said:

I CANNOT wait to see how the religious couple's rules go down with Bill.  I agree that it's their home, their rules, but I can't imagine Bill will be able to follow them for too long.  What was in the preview - he's not allowed to use the fridge??  I wonder what that's all about!  

People can make the claim all day long that they're the most decent people alive, just want to help, but I question the real motive behind a married woman corresponding with and bringing a single ex-con into her home to live.  Maybe she's legit, but maybe she's missing something in her marriage.  Especially since she's not sleeping with hubby...

I was surprised (and confused) by the talking head segments because the only descriptor was "roommate" instead of husband or wife. Who knows what this relationship is?

[1011101010001]

9 hours ago, Chalby said:

I was surprised (and confused) by the talking head segments because the only descriptor was "roommate" instead of husband or wife.

I think that was meant in relation to Bill.

[Jeanne222]

13 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

I think that was meant in relation to Bill.

I remember that and like Chalby said I think it refers to Bert and Ernie!

Maybe they’re not married!

[1011101010001]

10 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I remember that and like Chalby said I think it refers to Bert and Ernie!

Maybe they’re not married!

What did they do when they referred to that married couple in Missouri?

edit actually I think they were an unmarried couple so maybe there was no other married couple hosting.

Edited October 25, 2022 by MrBuhBye

[Jeanne222]

6 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

What did they do when they referred to that married couple in Missouri?

edit actually I think they were an unmarried couple so maybe there was no other married couple hosting.

Humm looks like they have been married seven years but refer to themselves as roommates!

Met on a Christian website!

Why am I always surprised!

[1011101010001]

13 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Humm looks like they have been married seven years but refer to themselves as roommates!

Met on a Christian website!

Why am I always surprised!

Mark referred to her as his wife during the last couple of episodes and I think they said they were married in the early episodes as well.

edit I think the chyron just means they are Bill’s roommates. 

Edited October 25, 2022 by MrBuhBye

[anoninrva]

On 10/22/2022 at 12:55 PM, Mothra said:

I wish we had been given a timeline for each of the returning citizens, like how long it took the ones who were paying for their own living quarters to earn that kind of money--what happened to them since we last saw them.

God bless Dr. Henry.  As soon as I saw that ultrasound, I thought Oh no, DQ, you're not ready to support a family.  But Dr. Henry is right:  this is what DQ wants and he has found a way forward with his life.  My middle-class white woman's response is simply irrelevant.  I hope DQ continues to thrive and to stay out of trouble.

Poor Mark.  I understand how he felt he had failed William Steal--as others have posted, why couldn't William Steal have a little refrigerator of his own?  Why did he have to be a vegetarian if it wasn't part of his beliefs?  I don't mean eat meat in front of them, but have the opportunity to keep his own food separate from theirs.  And ice, for god's sake!  What was their objection to his having ice (other than to preserve his forbidden meat sandwiches)?  OTO William Steal is imo a real a-hole in three part harmony.

But did we ever find out what's really going on with the toilet paper?

Sandra recognized a user because I suspect she was one herself at one time.  Something I remember from Artie Lange on Howard Stern's radio show, long ago:  "Addicts lie."  And Nick did.

Artie is a lovely person, and her offer of her own home for what's-his-face to have supervised visits with his daughter was pure kindness.  If I'm ever in big trouble, I hope there's an Artie to help me out.

Artie's one of the most empathetic people I've ever seen, especially after that 1am breakdown.

 

Bill is so incredibly inconsiderate.  Yes, the rules were extreme, and they weren't the most considerate to him, but he didn't even try.  He was taking rolls of toilet paper and using them as napkins.  TP was incredibly expensive last year. I can kind of sympathize with Mark there.  Likewise, they don't eat meat for religious reasons.  It doesn't seem that absurd that they don't want it in their fridge.

 

I agree about Sandra.  That gallon of wine by her knitting was interesting, but it turns out she was dead-on about Nick using.

[anoninrva]

On 10/15/2022 at 9:54 PM, Auntie Anxiety said:

Why does DQ remind me of Omar (The Wire)? Something about the way he holds his head?

Omar had cool, calm, and above all street smarts.  Maybe some of that was the actor, but if so, it was wonderful casting.  DQ seems to lack all of these traits, although I hope he manages to stay out of prison.  I have my doubts..

[Natalie68]

On 10/1/2022 at 5:44 AM, Mothra said:

Oh, I beg to differ about the men's pajamas.  That's *sexy*, Mr. BB.  Haven't you seen any Doris Day movies?

No, Sharna's pajamas are ladies' pajamas, flannel in winter, cotton in summer (I almost said nylon, but that's too clingy and might suggest the presence of lady parts) (which Mark would just as soon not know about, thank you very much) (or maybe Sharna would just as soon not want Mark to know about as it might inflame carnal impulses).

No, bedtime is not sexytime for Mark and Sharna (she's saving herself for...Santa?  Jesus?  Bill?).  That's why I think it's so sad that Bill was quick to say that Sharna didn't have any negligees.  I think there was a note of sadness to his declaration.

Look.  It's none of my business, but does Sharna have any children of her own?  They sleep in separate bedrooms.  She doesn't own a negligee.  Is Sharna a Vestal Virgin?

No negligee *sigh*.

I know this is an old thread but I see Sharna as a Lanz nightgown gal.

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

Just saw Season 2 is returning on May 30th. Not sure if they will be able to create the level of crazy with a Bill 2.0, but I am here for it

[Maybeitsme]

5 hours ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

Just saw Season 2 is returning on May 30th. Not sure if they will be able to create the level of crazy with a Bill 2.0, but I am here for it

Yay! I was afraid we might not ever see this crazy show again.  Remind me, what network is it on?

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

20 minutes ago, Maybeitsme said:

Yay! I was afraid we might not ever see this crazy show again.  Remind me, what network is it on?

It is on A&E. 

[ChristmasJones]

I just set my DVR - thanks!

[Red Bridey]

OMG I can't wait for this show to return! May 30 can't come soon enough for me.

[Maybeitsme]

Testing

Testing 123

Later gaters 😁 

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

Here we go, still trying to remember all these names, I got Mark, Mikey thus far and it appears this season will be a complete shit show and I am here for it with popcorn in hand

[Realitystarr]

This  looks  good, I'm  just starting and that  first couple has me  scared for the convict, even if he might be  a pimp or  something. Thought he handled the daughter well  asking her height and stopped her in her tracks trying to be  a bitch to him.

I will come back when I'm done with the episode.

[HorrrGoodnight]

It's even more confusing than love during/after lockup because why??? Nevertheless I'm here for the drama!

[Red Bridey]

It will be difficult keeping them straight, esp since I am also a Love After Lockup/During Lockup/whatever the show with the foreign brides and their prisoner boos is (the name legit escapes me now) addict. I feel that the charitable people really are doing this for good reason, but boyohboy are they naive. Except for Analise (?). She is not a pushover and that guy (Mark?) will regret trying to get one over on her, I predict.

[Maybeitsme]

I with y'all,  I'm trying to understand why these folks are bringing the prisoners into their homes.  You don't even know them? I don't think I could do it. But that's me.

Later gaters 

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

Does anyone know if these people get paid and by who? The one upcoming scene shows some lady saying she is only doing this for the money.

[TeapotWakeen]

I do love this show... do none of these people talk about rules, boundaries, expectations before they agree to the living situation? Or is everyone so into their own agenda that they just say yes & think it will all work out? I hate that there are no re-entry support systems in place for either party. Not even a plan for "best practices" -- the teacher who wanted his new roommate to go to a protest before he even sees his home was CRAZY!

Also.... BACON!! I thought the former inmate showed restraint with just bacon in the burrito and one side of bacon. 🥓 😜

[Chalby]

On 5/31/2024 at 6:04 PM, Realitystarr said:

This  looks  good, I'm  just starting and that  first couple has me  scared for the convict, even if he might be  a pimp or  something. Thought he handled the daughter well  asking her height and stopped her in her tracks trying to be  a bitch to him.

I will come back when I'm done with the episode.

It surprises me how disrespectful the convicts treat their host family. Aren't they allowed an earlier probation because the host family takes responsibility for ensuring they're adjusting to the community? They act so entitled.

Edited June 9 by Chalby

[Maybeitsme]

 

On 6/9/2024 at 6:18 PM, Chalby said:

It surprises me how disrespectful the convicts treat their host family. Aren't they allowed an earlier probation because the host family takes responsibility for ensuring they're adjusting to the community? They act so entitled.

So far they act like they are doing their benefactors a favor. Where is the gratitude for a soft place to land, a good meal, hospitality? I don't get it 😕 

[Andyourlittledog2]

On 6/11/2024 at 3:49 PM, Maybeitsme said:

So far they act like they are doing their benefactors a favor. Where is the gratitude for a soft place to land, a good meal, hospitality? I don't get it 😕

It reminds me of that episode of Mom when Bonnie decides to give Tammy a place to live right out of seven years in prison. After a couple days she totally regrets it:

"I feel like one of those people who bring home a dog and then find out it's a coyote."

The roommates have completely unrealistic expectations for what these people can deal with coming straight out of prison and the inmates act like middle schoolers pushing at even the merest hint of a reasonable boundary or respectful behavior. Which makes sense because the roommates have no way of relating and the inmates weren't in prison because they sang too loud in church. I am with you on the activist who seems to naively think prison is wrong for everyone and wanted to drag that poor newly released inmate to a protest immediately.  That guy was just weird and kind of obsessed. I hope the inmate can deal with him.

I'm not sure if I can stand too much of these weird people but so far I'm in.

[Chalby]

On 6/2/2024 at 10:38 AM, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

Does anyone know if these people get paid and by who? The one upcoming scene shows some lady saying she is only doing this for the money.

I would assume they'd be paid similar to a foster family, but the amount would be less as adults aren't still growing and needing different things as children do.

[jamber8684]

On 8/27/2022 at 6:35 PM, My Girls said:

For whatever reason, I've been chatting a fair amount with Bill on Facebook.  Nice enough guy and really reminds me of David as well.  Turns out he's slept with Ghislaine Maxwell and was friends with Robert Durst.  Ackkkk!!   Glad to see a familiar face watching this train wreck!

We feel so bad for that guy. Swear the "religious people" are actually psychos who hide people in their attic...poor Bill is just a victim to their desire to control anything! They have zero good intentions and it's sickening actually. I'm pretty sure The Lord will not be pleased with their "help"!!

[lu1535]

The lady taking in the inmate, incarcerated for financial fraud after her identity was stolen is just like in season 1 where the chronic pain lady took in the convicted drug dealer. 🤦‍♀️

[HorrrGoodnight]

It's taken no time at all for these ex-cons to show their true colors. Coming out the gate trying to 'negotiate' rules in someone else's house. Giving fake apologies just to continue being dismissive and disrespectful. Then there's the one that's already re-offended.

Aaron seems like the most appreciative and reasonable one (so far)

[Chalby]

8 hours ago, HorrrGoodnight said:

It's taken no time at all for these ex-cons to show their true colors. Coming out the gate trying to 'negotiate' rules in someone else's house. Giving fake apologies just to continue being dismissive and disrespectful. Then there's the one that's already re-offended.

Aaron seems like the most appreciative and reasonable one (so far)

A lot of the outcomes seem to ride on the inmate's "crime". The so-called meth heads seem to have poor impulse control, but it's like the chicken and egg. Do they already have a mood disorder that leads them to meth addiction, OR does doing meth cause poor impulse control?

All I know is as soon as an inmate is released, if they want "to visit old friends" - that's when I immediately feel their placement will fail.

And that one sponsor's (lady's) home is uninhabitable, so that gal is NOT going to last.

Edited June 22 by Chalby

[Red Bridey]

Interesting developments this episode. Not clear on everyone's names yet, but I'll do my best. Oh, Deven, nobody trusts you because you haven't proven yourself trustworthy to anyone! Two nights out of prison and there you are, back in jail again. Who the hell bailed him out? And why does the sister expect that the nice so we couple will take him back? She's got some nerve. I wonder what the probation rules are in these situations. 

Mark the street pharmacist may have just lucked into the best case scenario for him. I am doubtful he'll persevere but he might just surprise me. 

Jennifer is a big ol' shaky mess. I wonder what the contract says about who the heck covers the detox treatment. Was she put on Medicaid or some state insurance plan? I hope she gets sober, but again, I am doubtful.

Doesn't take the shady conman long to break the house rules! And apparently from the coming attractions, he's pretty bad at hiding the evidence. No wonder he got caught! He's no Master Criminal or smooth operator either. I like the woman he's staying with, she's sassy with him, but she's going to regret this decision very soon. I hope she has all her paperwork locked up or filed outside of the home where Genius Crook can't get his hands on it. And I hope he doesn't hurt those animals!

[Chalby]

18 hours ago, Red Bridey said:

Doesn't take the shady conman long to break the house rules! And apparently from the coming attractions, he's pretty bad at hiding the evidence. No wonder he got caught! He's no Master Criminal or smooth operator either. I like the woman he's staying with, she's sassy with him, but she's going to regret this decision

I am confused by these inmates feeling entitled to use temporary home placements as their home base for intimacy. As the smarmy guy pointed out, he's gone without for 3 years... So what? That's on him, and given he's got some gal on standby, why doesn't he go to her place for his conjugal visit? 

As long as the former inmates follow their probation curfews and restrictions, there's no problem. But when I see them giving in to basic impulses so quickly, I don't have faith in their ability to last on the straight and narrow.

[zenme]

On 6/29/2024 at 2:13 PM, Chalby said:

I am confused by these inmates feeling entitled to use temporary home placements as their home base for intimacy. As the smarmy guy pointed out, he's gone without for 3 years... So what? That's on him, and given he's got some gal on standby, why doesn't he go to her place for his conjugal visit? 

As long as the former inmates follow their probation curfews and restrictions, there's no problem. But when I see them giving in to basic impulses so quickly, I don't have faith in their ability to last on the straight and narrow.

Plus, I don’t get these women putting out for these men that just got out of prison.  These guys could have some kind of STD.  
 

[Chalby]

18 hours ago, zenme said:

Plus, I don’t get these women putting out for these men that just got out of prison.  These guys could have some kind of STD.  
 

I'd surmise that if the former inmate DIDN'T have an STD, by the looks of those gals he's befriended; he'll pick up one soon..

[Shrek]

On 7/1/2024 at 6:49 AM, zenme said:

Plus, I don’t get these women putting out for these men that just got out of prison.  These guys could have some kind of STD.  
 

Why & how would they have an STD having been in prison for years?

[zenme]

On 7/2/2024 at 8:51 AM, Shrek said:

Why & how would they have an STD having been in prison for years?

If they have sex with a drug user, or share needles. It happens. When my husband’s cousin came out of prison he had a couple of diseases going on, including hepatitis, from which he died.  

Edited July 3 by zenme

[Shrek]

21 minutes ago, zenme said:

If they have sex with a drug user, or share needles. It happens. When my husband’s cousin came out of prison he had a couple of diseases going on, including hepatitis, from which he died.  

I get that but you were specifically talking about STDs & sharing a needle doesn't make it sexually transmitted. I've known people (some I would rather not know) who have been in prison & none of them have come out with an STD. They all came out knowing more about being a criminal than when they went in but none came out with an STD, even the one I know who is gay & would be more at risk of it. 

I would say they are no more likely than the average person to contract an STD just by being in prison & they should be using protection anyway but most of these people on the program are not the brightest bulbs in the pack.

[HorrrGoodnight]

Believe it or not, STI's run RAMPANT in prison. Inmates have sex with each other, and often staff members as well. The prevalence is actually higher than the national average. 

[Boxer Woman]

On 7/3/2024 at 10:24 AM, Shrek said:

they should be using protection anyway but most of these people on the program are not the brightest bulbs in the pack.

Also, I doubt prisons provide free protection especially since inmates aren't supposed to be having sex anyway, and since most inmates don't have a lot of funds, even if condoms were available through commissary, which seems unlikely, they'd probably rather spend those limited funds on other things.

On 7/1/2024 at 8:49 AM, zenme said:

Plus, I don’t get these women putting out for these men that just got out of prison.  These guys could have some kind of STD.  
 

I know!  Even besides the STD risk, I'm bewildered at the ease with which many recently released inmates have multiple women lining up to have sex with them right away, without any type of committed relationship, they just want to jump into bed with basically homeless, unemployed losers, don't understand what's in it for them at all.  If they just want random sex they could become prostitutes and at least get paid for it.  This same thing happens on this show as well as Love After Lockup quite often, just doesn't make sense.

[Red Bridey]

On 7/11/2024 at 3:31 PM, Boxer Woman said:

Also, I doubt prisons provide free protection especially since inmates aren't supposed to be having sex anyway, and since most inmates don't have a lot of funds, even if condoms were available through commissary, which seems unlikely, they'd probably rather spend those limited funds on other things.

I know!  Even besides the STD risk, I'm bewildered at the ease with which many recently released inmates have multiple women lining up to have sex with them right away, without any type of committed relationship, they just want to jump into bed with basically homeless, unemployed losers, don't understand what's in it for them at all.  

Oh I don't know, I know that I can't wait for any of my prison boos to get out so we can have re-entry sex in a cornfield! Or the back of a pick-up truck. Or in a room in a house I have been specifically told I can't have company in. 😉

[Chalby]

On 7/3/2024 at 8:24 AM, Shrek said:

They all came out knowing more about being a criminal than when they went in but none came out with an STD, even the one I know who is gay & would be more at risk of it. 

Oh my, this times 100. In my former career, I had the opportunity to be around those recently paroled.

I've learned that some programs in prison really help inmates (educational groups and offering small career training as well as how to promote yourself).

BUT every person I interacted with, shared that they learned how to pull off their specific crime, but better or even perfectly. As well as how to pull off small cons, daily, for quick money.

Half of them said they never even asked, but some inmate would rattle off what "they should have done to avoid prison" as soon as they heard what the charges were.

They receive an education on how not to get caught, not to leave DNA, what to burn, how to set up an alibi. It's mindblowing the information they receive. They could write a chapter just about burner phones. Sheesh.

Edited July 15 by Chalby

[Chalby]

On 7/3/2024 at 7:54 AM, zenme said:

If they have sex with a drug user, or share needles. It happens. When my husband’s cousin came out of prison he had a couple of diseases going on, including hepatitis, from which he died.  

I believe hepatitis, MRSA infections, and general flus and colds always occur in these tight quarters, especially hepatitis. I can honestly say I've never known of a prisoner getting an STD "while in prison", but I'm sure there's always a first. MRSA and hepatitis are extremely contagious.

Edited July 15 by Chalby

[TeapotWakeen]

The crazy this week! Missing cars, missing roomies, husbands not supporting wives, landladies spilling tea in the freezer section, the ponies!! And next week a ventriloquist job interview! 😍😍